Hi 👋, a beautiful piece of Douglas Fir , yes, you should’ve glued it and repaired it before you started turning, Kintsugi Repaired with gold, even put stitching through it, I am a retired, specialist joiner, carpenter cabinet maker, I have literally used hundreds of thousands of pounds worth I’ve Douglas Fir over the years, making specialist doors and windows and staircases, Look forward to seeing your renovation project , 😂, Phil from the moulin France
Make it a river bowl? Put a divider and make it a divided bowl? Put a contrasting wood in the middle and turn it back down to have an accent stripe in the middle? It can still turn out good. The master carpenter...I planned it that way all along. :)
I agree with this. Run both pieces through your jointer (maybe?) and glue a contrasting piece of lumber in between and turn that. Sorry it happened, and glad you didn't get injured!
Don't make a "split" decision with the bowl Jason. It would be a shame to give up on it after putting in the work that you have already done. What have you got to lose? Glue it with a contrasting color glue (because if you try to hide it that's what it will look like) to highlight the flaw, even if you can't sell it the bowl has become a learning experience. Explosive grade video thumbs up.
I agree with @craigsudman4556; also present a copy of this video along with the bowl so the potential buyer with have a unique perspective as to how their item was made!
Don't give up on this bowl. Glue it back together! I'm an 84 yr. old hobbyist woodturner and I have experienced work pieces splitting apart more than once. if the pieces fit back together nicely I have had good results by using titebond glue. I applied ample amount of glue and pressed the pieces together with clamps. It works for me. PS: my wife and I love your posts. VHB
It is never a waste of time if you are doing what you love doing. Personally I would epoxy it back together and sell it if you want or keep it as a reminder of times past. It all comes as a learning process. Keep up the good work and videos.
I've been watching your video's for a while now. I retired about 8 years ago and bought a mini lathe and started turning. Like you I wasn't about to fork out a lot of money for turning tools or sharpening systems. I do have a set of spindle tools but wanted some for bowl turning. I checked around on the net and did some research on Oland tools. Earl's small segment shop put out a video in Oland tools and I made some and I use them more than any other turning tools. I have one 5/8" bowl gouge and some carbide turning tools. I always go back to Oland tools. As for a scraper for smoothing out the inside and outside of bowls I repurposed an old chisel and it works great. So check it out and have fun turning. By the way I have been to craft shows and people love my work so they work decent.
I’m getting to the point that I’m trying to do more than my tools will allow. I just exploded what was going to be a beautiful Osage Orange bowl because I don’t have a negative rake scraper. My regular scraper caught and it was all over.
Oops! I would use dowels and put it back together, but I would not put it back on my lathe. Chalk it up to luck that you weren’t injured and move on. Glad you weren’t hurt. Thanks for sharing!
Could always go the faux kintsugi route and fill the crack with something. I don't think I'd chuck it back on the lathe though. You got lucky once, don't want to chance it hitting you the next time.
Firewood. 😉 You might have better luck carving a platter out of the old dry fir than trying to turn it on the lathe. Maybe epoxy might have prevented the platter from cracking or maybe not. You might try sticking to green wood as a beginner turner. I do have a friend that sells his cracked bowls but he turns green madrone and expects it to check and crack as they dry. He then "repairs" the cracks with wire. They're beautiful art pieces.
I really enjoy your UA-cam videos, my son suggested I take a look, he is now living in BC Canada and is enjoying using his new woodmill. I have been woodturning for quite a while now. At the start of it all I was recommended a book by Richard Raffan, circa 1985, he appears on UA-cam and his videos are well worth following. Anyway to the nitty gritty, I always first mount the bowl blank on a faceplate, (a very secure mounting) and attach to the headstock, no need for a tailstock centre. I then turn the underside or outside of the bowl complete with the spigot to suit the expanding jaws i have on my chuck assembly. That side of the bowl is completely finished, polish and all. I then remove screws from faceplate and remount the finished side of the bowl spigot on the expanding chuck jaws. (It appears from your video that you have all this equipment) The inside of the bowl is then turned to my required shape. there is then no need to use friction jam chucks with dusters, they can only lead to mishaps. I have made many mistakes over the years and have the scars to prove it, I look upon my mistakes as learning opportunities. As we say in the north east of England, ' the man who hasn't made a mistake has done nowt' Happy Turning Brog UK
Wow, hope you weren't struck by the pieces. I'm not a woodworker, but I am an elevator mechanic... those old wooden beams are dry everywhere except where they got covered by the grease flung off the sheaves and ropes! I enjoy your videos!!
Thank you! I definitely made sure I was never in the path of the spinning wood while turning. I had another piece come apart that got me pretty good. Lesson learned.
Saw the crack out, insert a contrasting wood, glue it and then carry on as if nothing happened ... It would be a nice feature to have a contrasting stripe through the middle. Hope this helps! 🙂
I'd say glue back together and finish it by hand. Don't sell it, but use it as a key caddy for your home. Never give up on a project that can be salvaged. I learned that the hard way. Great job on the turning before the bowl decided to "split" ways.
Personally I would dowel and glue the two haves, then using a router shape the bottom of the bowl to give the floating shadow effect, that way you are not putting anymore centrifugal force through the piece.
It's all in the name. We have the Liberty Bell, which is priceless... you could repair it, label it the Liberty Bowl, and see whatcha can get for it! 😂😂
As a retired elevator guy, I'd chuck it in the woodstove. We used to use some nasty solvents and lubricants (plus carbon dust and a little asbestos) that I wouldn't want in my home. In reality, probably not really a concern but there's been more than one day I've wanted to toss my work clothes in the trash rather than the washing machine.
Not a wood worker but can appreciate the comments concerning sharp tools, brittle wood, spin speeds, etc. I am sure you could fix it and make the repair look great . I never like to give up but it would be a 50:50 call for me depending on what else I had lined up. Good video though 👍
There are a lot of good ideas in the comments as to how to finish the bowl. Pick one and finish, that is too nice to not finish. I have seen your imagination at work, you've got this. now get back in there and get 'er dunn! I do also agree with not putting it back on the lathe.
I wouldn't toss it in the fire just yet. I have a small stack of failed projects up on a shelf and every once in awhile I'll pull one down and repair and finish turning it. Trust me, a little time and some better tools down the road and you'll come up with a good fix. River bowl sounds neet! It's not challenging if you just throw it away. 👍😉
Kinda wanna be the guy who says, "BTUs baby! It can heat your house." But, I'm not that guy. I'm a huge fan of copper!!! I'd get some copper dust from Amazon and mix with epoxy and fill er up! Teach you a new skill and maybe ADD value to the bowl. So glad you salvaged that piece. Those growth rings are simply NUTS!!! Not sure many if any trees grow like than anymore. So glad you weren't hurt bro! Peace with you and your decision.
An uplifting video then crash bang down to earth just like some other things in life .Glad no one was hurt in the making of this content except Towelie
I'm not sure how this would have worked out here but here goes. Using plain white glue, sandwich a piece of kraft paper between the work piece and a scrap piece of plywood. Your faceplate screws to the plywood. It will support the work better and MAY hold it together if it decides to grenade. The paper leaves a nice plane to break it free of the plywood with a chisel.
This will be a good time to practice your Kintsugi skills (japanese practice of repairing pottery with golden lacquer). Of course this always happens just as you're about to finish the project.
Don't think it's a waste... rather a learning experience. I'm not sure how it could be done. Maybe resin? Not sure it would bond with all the grease though. Something to ask the community about.
I would put the Forstner bit aside for other work. Turn slow when reversing in a friction hold. I have had a failure with a Longworth style chuck because of too much rpm and being too aggressive.
I don’t think the Fostner bit was the issue here. I should’ve dealt with the crack right from the start. That being said, I think I have a repair plan that will bring this bowl to a new level I’ve never thought of before.
Put it back together and carry on. The wood will dictate the outcome. If it has a split in it so be it. It is still a beautiful bowl. The story you were trying tell is still there. This is just another chapter.
Glue back together, hand work the rough edges & finish it from there. Would not put back on lathe. Old growth has pitch lines, it might find another one. Valuable lesson & can be a great bowl with a great story too
Anytime I have something come off of the lathe which does happen occasionally for various reasons I do try to repair it if possible but I never sell a damaged piece. The size, weight, type and condition of wood are all things to consider in planning a piece. Turning is a fantastic venture but not factoring in all the critical elements can lead to accident or injury. Be safe and be critical of what you spin on your lathe.
Thank you, Jim! I thought this design would leave enough wood for stability and being so dry, it’d be light enough to be practical. I should’ve dealt with the crack first.
I would be tempted to cut the split halves in half again and glue in dark dividers so that you end up with segmented sections inside the bowl. Too much work to toss. Thanks for sharing.
That is a big scary piece of wood spinning there. So disappointing to see that break after all that work. After all that work, I'd try the glue and see what it looks like!
Have you picked up a way to sharpen your tools yet? Dull tools will cause catches and dry cracked wood doesn't have a good outcome. On a bowl that size and being dry wood, I would have stopped to sharpen the tools more than a half dozen times. Another thing is using a Forstner Bit puts a lot of pressure on the center spud of wood. It's best to just keep making light cuts with a sharp tool to remove the center waste.
I’m currently using my Grizzly 6”x”80” edge sander. It’s extremely aggressive but it’ll work on my cheap tools for now. I did sharpen twice and actually got some pretty nice cuts once I got into the wood round an inch or so.
I once had the brilliant idea to turn a piece of an old railway sleeper into a bowl it was only when I got halfway that I realised it was saturated and it stank of creosote!……I just binned it …..you were just unlucky Jason you had the makings of a really nice bowl there 👍👍👍🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
Epoxy kintsugi which would be an expression of wabi sabi. So, wabi sabi is an acceptance of imperfection, the wood wasn't strong enough for what you wanted to do. Kintsugi, golden joinery, could be used to joint the two pieces together. Gold flake in epoxy. You'd still have a lovely piece but now, with an extra story attached.
Ahhh. I’m familiar with that technique but didn’t realize the meaning behind it. Very interesting. I believe I have an interesting idea that does involve epoxy but also something I’ve not seen done with a bowl. We’ll see if I can pull it off…
Knowing it was going to blow up, at 12:50 I winced, held my breath, and even leaned back from the computer screen. It appeared you were standing in the plane of rotation as you cranked up the speed. I hope that was just the camera angle.
This one worried me from the start so while I did reach across the plane from time to time, I never stood in front of it. It’s not to say this couldn’t have gone worse but I like to show the good AND the bad😉
Widen the crack and fill it with a colorful epoxy (dowels may be a good idea). Then sand, or if you need to put it back on the lathe, I would somehow strap/reinforce the outer square edge to fight against the centrifugal force. I'd hate to see such beautiful old grain in the fireplace.
PPE required....DANGER AREA...Jason is woodturning!! Thought, clean the break with a saw cut then cut it again so it is in 4 equal pie parts and joint it with black epoxy or contrasting wood.
Самый оптимальный вариант в данном случае разрезать половинки ещё раз пополам. Получиться 4 элемента. Вклеить контрастную крестообразную вставку. Будет интересно!
Dam what a shame. Me I would glue it back together see how it looks, then either keep it or if good enough sell it. I'm sure after some of your magic it will get fine to sell. Beautiful wood fir sure. Good luck.
Hey Jason, been watching you for a looooong time! I’m not a wood turner, but could you somehow use bow ties or tie it together and then fill with an accent epoxy? Best of luck! Keep us posted!
Thank you! I didn’t want to let the cat out of the bag but you just nailed my plan. I just got a new 40 watt laser to review and my plan is to use black walnut bow ties I cut with the new laser along with epoxy. But don’t tell anyone 😂
I say glue it back, and finish the project. If it's a clean enough break, you may not even be able to tell it was repaired! You might also learn some new tricks for future turnings?
#1. Were you hurt? #2. Glue it up and see what you get. You can always throw it away later if it doesn't work. #3. Looked good before the.........................
That's a bummer that you piece exploded on you. All is not lost. Take a page from Frank Howarth's (youtube channel) book and glue in a contrasting piece of wood to join the pieces back together and finish up the bowl.
Sad but if you sell it not a bust if you don't will you enjoy it still not a waist of your time if you see what not to do good stuff thanks for your time
It’s definitely not going back on the lathe but I think I can fix it and finish the work on the bottom with a sander. We’ll see if I can pull it off. 😉
I am surprised you used what seems like a very soft looking cloth, I use a anti slip cloth which works well but then it's very old wood almost pitch pine? I've never seen grain like that. I Hope you can figure something out, stick at it 😅
I had another piece come apart that did get me in the arm pretty good when I first started with the lathe. I learned there not to stand in the plane of the spinning wood. This definitely could’ve been worse but it’s probably not the safest hobby to start with.
Bearing in mind that know relatively nothing about wood turning, II think I would use it for firewood. It seems to this 'layman' that this dry and perhaps somewhat brittle old wood is now too thin for glue to hold it permanently and with enough strength to stand more of the centrifugal forces. ( There's no doubt that the epoxies are strong, but is the wood ? There's a question to which only Jason holds the answer. )
This piece is definitely done on the lathe but I think it can be fixed in a way that will make it even more interesting than it was going to be. We’ll see if I pull it off😉
That's a shame, Jason, but old growth wood is notoriously brittle. I'm not a woodturner so I can't tell you how to fix it but it would be worth trying something. On another note, you just couldn't resist the puns, could you? How did that work dragging the piece backwards through the saw lol? Bill
You could mount the two pieces on the wall to remind you how quickly not paying attention to a small crack can get out of hand. Actually I like the idea of putting a rectangular piece between the two to make an oval bowl. Either use a contrasting wood or the wood you cut off. Good luck!
So many things to learn here grasshopper. First of all , Pine ain't worth a damn for making bowls from. Gotta use hard wood. It looks to me the reason that the bowl broke was because you got a "catch" . (you can see a nice chunk of it in the slow-mo video) It looks to me like you are using a Spindle gouge , when you should be using a bowl gouge. If that's a spindle gouge you will nasty catches. You do need the bigger jaws for your chuck too. Keep your tools sharp and NEVER move the tool rest while the lathe is spinning.
Whatever you decide, if it were me, I would not be securing your almost finished work between a rag and the live center. Seems like is always the oops moment.
First we were really hoping the title of the video was clickbait. 😢😢😢. Sorry. I think you need to find a way to fix it. In its own way that piece of wood is a piece of history. I say fix it. Love your videos
It will be useful making a few BTU's of heat in your stove this winter. Turning large heavy items is dangerous enough in it's self. Turning large pieces with large cracks at higher rpm's is asking for trouble. And if you intend to keep turning bowls, you might want to invest in a curved tool rest for turning bowls.
Hi 👋, a beautiful piece of Douglas Fir , yes, you should’ve glued it and repaired it before you started turning, Kintsugi Repaired with gold, even put stitching through it, I am a retired, specialist joiner, carpenter cabinet maker, I have literally used hundreds of thousands of pounds worth I’ve Douglas Fir over the years, making specialist doors and windows and staircases,
Look forward to seeing your renovation project , 😂, Phil from the moulin France
Make it a river bowl? Put a divider and make it a divided bowl? Put a contrasting wood in the middle and turn it back down to have an accent stripe in the middle? It can still turn out good. The master carpenter...I planned it that way all along. :)
I agree with this. Run both pieces through your jointer (maybe?) and glue a contrasting piece of lumber in between and turn that. Sorry it happened, and glad you didn't get injured!
Thanks, Gary! I have a plan and @ronhaefner7833 isn’t far off😉
@@TheBeardedWoodworker Oh this is gonna be exciting. Have to wait to see. :)
Don't make a "split" decision with the bowl Jason. It would be a shame to give up on it after putting in the work that you have already done. What have you got to lose? Glue it with a contrasting color glue (because if you try to hide it that's what it will look like) to highlight the flaw, even if you can't sell it the bowl has become a learning experience. Explosive grade video thumbs up.
I agree with @craigsudman4556; also present a copy of this video along with the bowl so the potential buyer with have a unique perspective as to how their item was made!
Craig, are you busy? I need a comedy writer for the next video😂😂😂. I have a plan to go above and beyond highlighting the break. Stay tuned 😉
@@NorthwestSawyer can't wait for your next video to explode on the screen! In a good way of course. Thumbs up Jason.
@@craigsudman4556 🤓😂
Don't give up on this bowl. Glue it back together! I'm an 84 yr. old hobbyist woodturner and I have experienced work pieces splitting apart more than once. if the pieces fit back together nicely I have had good results by using titebond glue. I applied ample amount of glue and pressed the pieces together with clamps. It works for me. PS: my wife and I love your posts. VHB
It is never a waste of time if you are doing what you love doing. Personally I would epoxy it back together and sell it if you want or keep it as a reminder of times past. It all comes as a learning process. Keep up the good work and videos.
Thank you! I have kind of a wild plan. We’ll see if I can pull it off. I think it’ll end up better than it was going to.
I've been watching your video's for a while now. I retired about 8 years ago and bought a mini lathe and started turning. Like you I wasn't about to fork out a lot of money for turning tools or sharpening systems. I do have a set of spindle tools but wanted some for bowl turning. I checked around on the net and did some research on Oland tools. Earl's small segment shop put out a video in Oland tools and I made some and I use them more than any other turning tools. I have one 5/8" bowl gouge and some carbide turning tools. I always go back to Oland tools. As for a scraper for smoothing out the inside and outside of bowls I repurposed an old chisel and it works great. So check it out and have fun turning. By the way I have been to craft shows and people love my work so they work decent.
I’m getting to the point that I’m trying to do more than my tools will allow. I just exploded what was going to be a beautiful Osage Orange bowl because I don’t have a negative rake scraper. My regular scraper caught and it was all over.
Oops! I would use dowels and put it back together, but I would not put it back on my lathe. Chalk it up to luck that you weren’t injured and move on. Glad you weren’t hurt. Thanks for sharing!
Make some bow ties, and use them as a feature, and to,hold the bowl together.
You’re on to my plan!😉
Could always go the faux kintsugi route and fill the crack with something. I don't think I'd chuck it back on the lathe though. You got lucky once, don't want to chance it hitting you the next time.
It’s definitely not lathe-worthy anymore but I do have a plan😉
Firewood. 😉 You might have better luck carving a platter out of the old dry fir than trying to turn it on the lathe. Maybe epoxy might have prevented the platter from cracking or maybe not. You might try sticking to green wood as a beginner turner. I do have a friend that sells his cracked bowls but he turns green madrone and expects it to check and crack as they dry. He then "repairs" the cracks with wire. They're beautiful art pieces.
I really enjoy your UA-cam videos, my son suggested I take a look, he is now living in BC Canada and is enjoying using his new woodmill. I have been woodturning for quite a while now. At the start of it all I was recommended a book by Richard Raffan, circa 1985, he appears on UA-cam and his videos are well worth following.
Anyway to the nitty gritty, I always first mount the bowl blank on a faceplate, (a very secure mounting) and attach to the headstock, no need for a tailstock centre. I then turn the underside or outside of the bowl complete with the spigot to suit the expanding jaws i have on my chuck assembly. That side of the bowl is completely finished, polish and all. I then remove screws from faceplate and remount the finished side of the bowl spigot on the expanding chuck jaws. (It appears from your video that you have all this equipment) The inside of the bowl is then turned to my required shape. there is then no need to use friction jam chucks with dusters, they can only lead to mishaps.
I have made many mistakes over the years and have the scars to prove it, I look upon my mistakes as learning opportunities.
As we say in the north east of England, ' the man who hasn't made a mistake has done nowt'
Happy Turning
Brog UK
Wow, hope you weren't struck by the pieces. I'm not a woodworker, but I am an elevator mechanic... those old wooden beams are dry everywhere except where they got covered by the grease flung off the sheaves and ropes! I enjoy your videos!!
Thank you! I definitely made sure I was never in the path of the spinning wood while turning. I had another piece come apart that got me pretty good. Lesson learned.
Saw the crack out, insert a contrasting wood, glue it and then carry on as if nothing happened ... It would be a nice feature to have a contrasting stripe through the middle. Hope this helps! 🙂
I'd say glue back together and finish it by hand. Don't sell it, but use it as a key caddy for your home. Never give up on a project that can be salvaged. I learned that the hard way. Great job on the turning before the bowl decided to "split" ways.
Personally I would dowel and glue the two haves, then using a router shape the bottom of the bowl to give the floating shadow effect, that way you are not putting anymore centrifugal force through the piece.
I have a plan not far from your suggestion. I think the bottom is close enough that I can sand it to finish it. Stay tuned😉
It's all in the name.
We have the Liberty Bell, which is priceless... you could repair it, label it the Liberty Bowl, and see whatcha can get for it! 😂😂
NOOOOO! That is a huge bummer but I believe it can be saved.
As a retired elevator guy, I'd chuck it in the woodstove. We used to use some nasty solvents and lubricants (plus carbon dust and a little asbestos) that I wouldn't want in my home. In reality, probably not really a concern but there's been more than one day I've wanted to toss my work clothes in the trash rather than the washing machine.
Not a wood worker but can appreciate the comments concerning sharp tools, brittle wood, spin speeds, etc. I am sure you could fix it and make the repair look great . I never like to give up but it would be a 50:50 call for me depending on what else I had lined up. Good video though 👍
Thank you! I think because it wasn’t totally destroyed I want to try to fix it.
Yes, give it a go, nothing to lose and it could turn out really well......
There are a lot of good ideas in the comments as to how to finish the bowl. Pick one and finish, that is too nice to not finish. I have seen your imagination at work, you've got this. now get back in there and get 'er dunn!
I do also agree with not putting it back on the lathe.
Thank you! I have a plan and it definitely doesn’t involve the lathe😉
I wouldn't toss it in the fire just yet. I have a small stack of failed projects up on a shelf and every once in awhile I'll pull one down and repair and finish turning it. Trust me, a little time and some better tools down the road and you'll come up with a good fix. River bowl sounds neet!
It's not challenging if you just throw it away. 👍😉
Excellent advice! I think I have a plan😉
You should always stabilize the wood before you start turning, especially when there are visible cracks in it, a tip
Kinda wanna be the guy who says, "BTUs baby! It can heat your house." But, I'm not that guy. I'm a huge fan of copper!!! I'd get some copper dust from Amazon and mix with epoxy and fill er up! Teach you a new skill and maybe ADD value to the bowl. So glad you salvaged that piece. Those growth rings are simply NUTS!!! Not sure many if any trees grow like than anymore. So glad you weren't hurt bro! Peace with you and your decision.
An uplifting video then crash bang down to earth just like some other things in life .Glad no one was hurt in the making of this content except Towelie
The good, the bad and the ugly. You get it all here😂
Well, now I HAVE to subscribe to find out how you finish it. Sounds like you have some interesting ideas.
Welcome! Stay tuned! I think this will be a good one. 😉
I'm not sure how this would have worked out here but here goes. Using plain white glue, sandwich a piece of kraft paper between the work piece and a scrap piece of plywood. Your faceplate screws to the plywood. It will support the work better and MAY hold it together if it decides to grenade. The paper leaves a nice plane to break it free of the plywood with a chisel.
This will be a good time to practice your Kintsugi skills (japanese practice of repairing pottery with golden lacquer). Of course this always happens just as you're about to finish the project.
First I practiced changing my shorts😂. But I think I have a plan. Stay tuned😉
Don't think it's a waste... rather a learning experience. I'm not sure how it could be done. Maybe resin? Not sure it would bond with all the grease though. Something to ask the community about.
Might have worked having seen the inside 🤔
I keep watching, waiting for the impending disaster. 😵💫
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Well Jason,... (2:38 mark) so much for the wife's hand towel !!!
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I would put the Forstner bit aside for other work. Turn slow when reversing in a friction hold. I have had a failure with a Longworth style chuck because of too much rpm and being too aggressive.
I don’t think the Fostner bit was the issue here. I should’ve dealt with the crack right from the start. That being said, I think I have a repair plan that will bring this bowl to a new level I’ve never thought of before.
Put it back together and carry on. The wood will dictate the outcome. If it has a split in it so be it. It is still a beautiful bowl. The story you were trying tell is still there. This is just another chapter.
Well said!
Treat it like a kintsugi project, broken doesn't mean ugly.
Power washer ?going to be cool.I'd use resin n make it just 3/4" bigger.
That is “part” of my plan😉
Glue back together, hand work the rough edges & finish it from there. Would not put back on lathe. Old growth has pitch lines, it might find another one.
Valuable lesson & can be a great bowl with a great story too
Thank you, Larry. It’s definitely not going back on the lathe but I do have a repair plan.
Anytime I have something come off of the lathe which does happen occasionally for various reasons I do try to repair it if possible but I never sell a damaged piece. The size, weight, type and condition of wood are all things to consider in planning a piece. Turning is a fantastic venture but not factoring in all the critical elements can lead to accident or injury. Be safe and be critical of what you spin on your lathe.
Thank you, Jim! I thought this design would leave enough wood for stability and being so dry, it’d be light enough to be practical. I should’ve dealt with the crack first.
Oh, give it a try. With as much work as you have in that bowl, you have to try. It will be interesting to see how this turns out
Thank you, Mike! I agree 100%. I can’t bring myself to burn it.
That’s a shame that thing shattered like that.. dang
I’m not a wood turner so I can’t help you on what to do. Thanks for sharing it
I think I have a plan. We’ll see if I can pull it off😉
I would be tempted to cut the split halves in half again and glue in dark dividers so that you end up with segmented sections inside the bowl. Too much work to toss. Thanks for sharing.
That is a big scary piece of wood spinning there. So disappointing to see that break after all that work. After all that work, I'd try the glue and see what it looks like!
Have you picked up a way to sharpen your tools yet? Dull tools will cause catches and dry cracked wood doesn't have a good outcome. On a bowl that size and being dry wood, I would have stopped to sharpen the tools more than a half dozen times. Another thing is using a Forstner Bit puts a lot of pressure on the center spud of wood. It's best to just keep making light cuts with a sharp tool to remove the center waste.
I’m currently using my Grizzly 6”x”80” edge sander. It’s extremely aggressive but it’ll work on my cheap tools for now. I did sharpen twice and actually got some pretty nice cuts once I got into the wood round an inch or so.
blood red epoxy 3/8 inch joint connecting the halves, and convert it into a wall hanger with a bit of light from behind it shining through the epoxy.
I like that and I have a plan very similar to that. Stay tuned 😉
I once had the brilliant idea to turn a piece of an old railway sleeper into a bowl it was only when I got halfway that I realised it was saturated and it stank of creosote!……I just binned it …..you were just unlucky Jason you had the makings of a really nice bowl there 👍👍👍🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
Ahhhh! Creosote is the worst! I think I have a plan to fix it. Stay tuned 😉
fire wood not nice to sell failures, but the video is great
Epoxy kintsugi which would be an expression of wabi sabi.
So, wabi sabi is an acceptance of imperfection, the wood wasn't strong enough for what you wanted to do. Kintsugi, golden joinery, could be used to joint the two pieces together. Gold flake in epoxy.
You'd still have a lovely piece but now, with an extra story attached.
Ahhh. I’m familiar with that technique but didn’t realize the meaning behind it. Very interesting. I believe I have an interesting idea that does involve epoxy but also something I’ve not seen done with a bowl. We’ll see if I can pull it off…
@@NorthwestSawyer good luck! It'll be interesting to see.
🤔you have a dilemma,but I know you will come up with a solution that makes both parties happy✌️ Napa California
Tomorrow’s video will have a big clue😉
Knowing it was going to blow up, at 12:50 I winced, held my breath, and even leaned back from the computer screen. It appeared you were standing in the plane of rotation as you cranked up the speed. I hope that was just the camera angle.
This one worried me from the start so while I did reach across the plane from time to time, I never stood in front of it. It’s not to say this couldn’t have gone worse but I like to show the good AND the bad😉
I’ll take that “two for one deal “ LMK how much 😂
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That'll glue up perfect
I have a plan😉
Widen the crack and fill it with a colorful epoxy (dowels may be a good idea). Then sand, or if you need to put it back on the lathe, I would somehow strap/reinforce the outer square edge to fight against the centrifugal force. I'd hate to see such beautiful old grain in the fireplace.
Thank you, David! I agree and I think I have a plan.
PPE required....DANGER AREA...Jason is woodturning!! Thought, clean the break with a saw cut then cut it again so it is in 4 equal pie parts and joint it with black epoxy or contrasting wood.
Dang!
Самый оптимальный вариант в данном случае разрезать половинки ещё раз пополам. Получиться 4 элемента. Вклеить контрастную крестообразную вставку. Будет интересно!
Dam what a shame. Me I would glue it back together see how it looks, then either keep it or if good enough sell it. I'm sure after some of your magic it will get fine to sell. Beautiful wood fir sure. Good luck.
Thank you! I think I have a plan. Stay tuned😉
@NorthwestSawyer Good lad thought you might. Oh yes I'll be watching.
Hey Jason, been watching you for a looooong time! I’m not a wood turner, but could you somehow use bow ties or tie it together and then fill with an accent epoxy? Best of luck! Keep us posted!
Thank you! I didn’t want to let the cat out of the bag but you just nailed my plan. I just got a new 40 watt laser to review and my plan is to use black walnut bow ties I cut with the new laser along with epoxy. But don’t tell anyone 😂
@@NorthwestSawyer your secret is safe with me!! Good luck man!
Well after you go and change your pants. Maybe epoxy the halves together and leave some color showing.
Ha! It happened so fast I didn’t have time to sold myself 😂 I’m definitely leaning your direction on it.
Lmao… you said that with a straight face…. “Ups and downs”. Made it funnier.
Chuck. @make-somedust
🤓thanks, Chuck!
Glue it and keep it as a lesson learned.
glue the bejeepers out of it and inlay a metal frame (from angle?) tart way up the sides..... sounds like your style with wood and steel.
I like it, Russ. I have an idea sort of along those lines but it’ll make the repair a focal point rather than a reaction to a problem. Stay tuned😉
epoxy it back together and add a 2 or 3 bowties on the inside - should look great!!
You’ve nailed my plan exactly! Don’t tell anyone!😉😂
Bookends! Don't glue it together. It looks very modern & would be great as bookends.
Ow wow! That’s an amazing idea! I think I have a plan for this on but you’ve given me something else to make. 😉
Good content......bad bowl !
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At least you still have your fingers.
All 11!😂
I say glue it back, and finish the project. If it's a clean enough break, you may not even be able to tell it was repaired! You might also learn some new tricks for future turnings?
I’m definitely going to make an attempt and will definitely address cracks when I find them moving forward. 😉
Glue it back together and continue.
put a couple of dowels in it, and call it good, as it will hold popcorn.
Glue it back together and leave it by the door to drop your keys into. Don't put it back on the lathe.
I have to TRY to fix it, right? It’s definitely not going back on the lathe. I think a sander will finish the bottom.
@@NorthwestSawyer Yep. It'll look nice by the front door.
Make it into a River Bowl", akin to a river table.
I have an idea and you’re not far off😉
#1. Were you hurt?
#2. Glue it up and see what you get. You can always throw it away later if it doesn't work.
#3. Looked good before the.........................
No UA-camrs were harmed in the making of this video😂
Definitely sell it still
That's a bummer that you piece exploded on you. All is not lost. Take a page from Frank Howarth's (youtube channel) book and glue in a contrasting piece of wood to join the pieces back together and finish up the bowl.
That’s not far from the plan I have😉
Use some titebond ll and glue and clamp it. It may not even show.
glue sand and go on. It's part of the patina and history.
I agree!
Glue it. It will as good as new.
I have a plan.😉
Sad but if you sell it not a bust if you don't will you enjoy it still not a waist of your time if you see what not to do good stuff thanks for your time
Thank you! I still plan to try and fix it. I have some ideas.
I don’t think it’s safe to carry on, seems very brittle and personally I wouldn’t put it back on the lathe but it’s your piece of wood. 😱
It’s definitely not going back on the lathe but I think I can fix it and finish the work on the bottom with a sander. We’ll see if I can pull it off. 😉
Glue it. Or better yet epoxy a metal strip in. Somewhat like Japanese craftsman.
I am surprised you used what seems like a very soft looking cloth, I use a anti slip cloth which works well but then it's very old wood almost pitch pine? I've never seen grain like that. I Hope you can figure something out, stick at it 😅
Thank you! I have some of the anti slip cloth I think you’re talking about. I should probably dig it out.
pins and glue , for a display piece
all that work ,but you can always make another bowl, I'd say food for the wood stove ,but that's just me
Throw both halves in the firewood bin and go find a more sound piece of wood to turn. That could have seriously injured you.
I had another piece come apart that did get me in the arm pretty good when I first started with the lathe. I learned there not to stand in the plane of the spinning wood. This definitely could’ve been worse but it’s probably not the safest hobby to start with.
So sorry that happened to you. I know you had high hopes for it. Myself I'd throw it in the burn pile after I got done cussing.
Nothing to lose by using some epoxy. A little concerned by that much mass spinning so fast…
I would recomwnd not gluing but fashion something with the smaller pieces left.
I think I have a plan to save this one and highlight the damage rather than try to hide it.
Bearing in mind that know relatively nothing about wood turning, II think I would use it for firewood.
It seems to this 'layman' that this dry and perhaps somewhat brittle old wood is now too thin for glue to hold it permanently and with enough strength to stand more of the centrifugal forces.
( There's no doubt that the epoxies are strong, but is the wood ? There's a question to which only Jason holds the answer. )
This piece is definitely done on the lathe but I think it can be fixed in a way that will make it even more interesting than it was going to be. We’ll see if I pull it off😉
@@NorthwestSawyer I have faith in your ability,.. like I think I've said before.
Firewood
That's a shame, Jason, but old growth wood is notoriously brittle. I'm not a woodturner so I can't tell you how to fix it but it would be worth trying something. On another note, you just couldn't resist the puns, could you? How did that work dragging the piece backwards through the saw lol?
Bill
I can always fall back on my comedy routine if the woodworking doesn’t pan out😂
@@NorthwestSawyer Well..........
It seams…. to me you should take another crack… at it. I will look forward to checking… out what you do with it.
Okay, I have a pen, keep ‘em coming!😂😂😂
Throw it in the stove. The fun is in the doing, anyway,
True, but I was hoping to make a few bucks😂
You could mount the two pieces on the wall to remind you how quickly not paying attention to a small crack can get out of hand.
Actually I like the idea of putting a rectangular piece between the two to make an oval bowl. Either use a contrasting wood or the wood you cut off. Good luck!
Thank you! I think I have a plan that’s sort of along those lines. We’ll see if I can pull it off.
So many things to learn here grasshopper. First of all , Pine ain't worth a damn for making bowls from. Gotta use hard wood.
It looks to me the reason that the bowl broke was because you got a "catch" . (you can see a nice chunk of it in the slow-mo video)
It looks to me like you are using a Spindle gouge , when you should be using a bowl gouge.
If that's a spindle gouge you will nasty catches. You do need the bigger jaws for your chuck too. Keep your tools sharp and NEVER move the tool rest while the lathe is spinning.
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Bow ties and some epoxy, she'll be good as new!
Whatever you decide, if it were me, I would not be securing your almost finished work between a rag and the live center. Seems like is always the oops moment.
First we were really hoping the title of the video was clickbait. 😢😢😢. Sorry. I think you need to find a way to fix it. In its own way that piece of wood is a piece of history. I say fix it. Love your videos
It should burn rather nicely. I wouldn't mess with it any further.
Stay tuned, you might be surprised 😉
Put it on the fire
Glue it.
It will be useful making a few BTU's of heat in your stove this winter. Turning large heavy items is dangerous enough in it's self. Turning large pieces with large cracks at higher rpm's is asking for trouble. And if you intend to keep turning bowls, you might want to invest in a curved tool rest for turning bowls.
More tools! Sounds great😉