Why on earth can’t they make better slow mo in 4k braw? In theory, taking into account the sensor readout speed, bmpcc 6k should be able to record about 90fps in the 4k windowed mode. That would have made a lot of difference to me if they enabled it, as I’d able to record flicker-free 75fps (project rate 25fps). As it stands, at the moment, I can only record 50fps (not enough) or 100 fps (too zoomed in). 60 fps is available and better than 50fps but produces flicker in artificial light here in Australia.
Hard to believe you have over 1000 hours on the camera but you don’t know that double tapping the play button will let you scroll all your footage recorded in the specific device let say a Cfast card or T5/t7
In regards to low light, the bmpcc doesn't do all of the noise reduction in camera. You need to do it in post, with the free software. This gives you more freedom and control when it comes to your image, as far as I know.
My friend if you are a wedding filmmaker this is not for you the image quality of this camera is amazing if you are shooting in controlled environment and i think whoever shoots on this camera they knows it very well,
It’s definitely a good camera for wedding filmmaking If you know what you’re doing. Most of these things mentioned are easy to fix. IR pollution is a simple IR cut filter on the lens. Just because it’s a cinema camera doesn’t mean it can’t be used for wedding filmmaking 🤦🏽♂️. The fact that is has raw to make it easier to deal with different lighting all over the place as well as the ability to burn in luts is enough reason why it’s easily useful for wedding shooting.
For the follow focus motor, the gear tape must be of the same size/shape as the rotating wheel (the notches). Some time ago I switched the tape from another gimbal and had lots of slipping at the gear. Other problem may come from untight connection of the plate to a camera or a cage. The metal rod is not allowed to move aside even a bit.
I never encountered the playback issue you are mentioning, I think you can’t review footage of a different resolution/frame rate unless you are currently in that frame rate mode. And regarding the gimbal use, I feel like the focus control via type-c works quite well for the 18-35.
Unfortunately stuck pixels is very common with a lot of cameras When I first got my a7s I pretty much pulled it out of the box and shot a short, giant stuck pixels right in the middle right out of the box I also do a lot of corporate work with canon C cameras and the Panasonic BGH-1 It's happened so many times that I pixel refresh my cameras at the start of every shoot Red recommends letting the sensor warm up for 15-20 minutes first So I'll have my shooters power on the cameras in advance and then do a refresh (with the cap on) Sometimes a shooter will question if it's necessary, I'll zoom in on the image and show a stuck pixel and they quickly understand how important it is lol
is simple, this is not wedding camera, the hot pixel is cause several time with the camera working, battery mechanism increase temp and produces damage in the sensor, bmpcc 6k pro is a short takes camera, mount a scene, shot and cut.
Center of gravity. The weight of the camera skews to the short side of the body. Goes back to that gimbal issue you posted. I took the time to really tinker with the balancing. I can cram a pro on a RSC 2 and make it stick in any direction. The RS 3 makes that a little tougher, but the gimbal motors are so beefy, and forgivable, that making it stick on the roll is no longer a requirement.
If your not working with a Gaffer and a 1st AC this is probably not the right camera for you. Get a Sony with autofocus and face tracking and incredible low light performance. This is a DP cam not an event camera. If you can’t dial in the lighting levels like a cinematographer and don’t have control of the blocking and movement of the actors exposure and focus are going to be a challenge with this tool.
The way you fix your focus motor issue, that you use a baseplate with 2 rods and then fit a lens support. While you may not not need the lens support, it will stabilise the 2 rods. As a result, your motor won't move. Balancing the 6k on a Ronin Gimbal, you want an offset arca swiss plate, so you can slide left and right and maybe a wide base plate, like the Smallrig power baseplate for the RS2 / RS3 Pro. It can be balanced without counterweights, once you can move the camera sideways.
Sadly I even tried with the lens support and of course using the provided velco strap and was still running into the same problem. I think ideally the system would work with a prime lens rather then a zoom. But I think with DJI actually doing a full redesign on the RS3 they knew even though it worked...it wasn't necessarily an ideal design.
@@Alexrocks1253 look at it this way, because you have to do it manually it teaches you the ins and outs of your camera. My 6k cam taught me on how to be a better cinemagrapher
@@blialee4837 that’s fair. It just didn’t work too well with my type of shooting since it’s only going on UA-cam and never to film festivals. It was really nice to be able to play with raw footage for a while. What I’ve done now is have a video assist and a BRaw-compatible camera so the best of both worlds!
Hey Kilen, I'm a fellow PNW filmmaker and shoot on BMPCC6K, and recently pivoted to weddings - glad to see your work. Because of the gimbal issues you mentioned with the Sigma 18-35, I switched to using a Sigma 17-50 - smaller, lighter, easy to balance, bigger focal range, and I don't notice a quality loss. Also, I never use focus gears because, with AF lenses, you can control focus on the Blackmagic electronically with the RS2 via usb-c. Stylistically though, I'm curious how often you shoot on a gimbal vs. handheld and why. I always use a gimbal for convenience, but recently have been experimenting with handheld for more control over focal length and angles. A video on that could be good.
Ayyyee whats up man!! Seattle!? Honestly I shoot handheld about 95 percent of the time. Gimbals have just never worked for me at weddings. But for other filmmakers they are great. Just have to find what style you like and run with it! Writing this down as a topic idea
You can only play back the clips that were recorded on the current settings of your camera record section. So for example, if you texted something in full 6k braw 24ps…the clips recorded with those settings are the one that you can play back. Let’s say you had other clips recorded in 6k 2.4.1 mode…only THOSE clips will play and it the full sensor 6k mode. Also there’s 2 modes of clip organization in playback mode that can be changed in the settings as well. It’s one of those things because I can assure you the playing back clips from different days is not an issue
this video seems like it should've been made a long time ago. rs3 -gimbal problem solved. Low light...bring a light, problem solved, ir pollution, ir cut filter-problem solved. Dead pixel (every cameras problem) pixel remap and davinci resolve pixel fix-PROBLEM SOLVED!
I sometimes have more than 5 different projects shot on more than 5 different days on SSD and never had issues with playback. All of them are visible on camera playback.
6k G2 (owner) defense here (not really). Dead pixels: Every camera gets them. Reason #1 why I buy a new G2 every year before the warranty expires, and sell the 11-month old G2 with Davinci at 25% off. Cheap insurance. There are ways to deal with dead pixels. Davinci Resolve has a 'dead pixel' fix in the menu. The local BM support offices can remap those pixels. Younger is better. Works for some people, too.. Playback: I unload all media daily so I would have no need to take up space on my CF or SSD for yesterday's footage. I routinely create screenshots during dailies to reference the next day, for lighting, continuity etc. Low light: I light shadows, because film likes it almost as much as my 6k. It's dynamic range. Gimbal: My back and knees won't do a gimbal. I use a Steadicam with vest and arm (moving subjects), or Flycam with Ronin M (stationary subjects). No more hunchback. The 6k is a cinema camera, not just a digital camera. It's most effective for the manual filmmaker, not a street journalist or wedding videographer. It's certainly not my run-and-gun go-to camera.
@@kilenmurphy basically every issue you stated was spot on. Everyday I’m forcing myself not to just go Sony haha I know I will miss that braw codec but the ease of use with Sony just seems like it would make my life on set a breeze especially as a solo shooter
@@KBFilms2 Seriously cannot go wrong with Sony! Just have to ask yourself what is the right tool for the job. Me filming all these youtube videos is all done with Sony perfect example.
bro, this isn't a pain to mount on a gimbal. eat some protein, lift some other heavy things. i run this full cage, monitor, focus motor, rs2, all day. with that being said the flicker issue, and the audio issue is most frustrating with the 6k. strobe flickering, and debanding and deflickering in davinci does not fix it. the audio levels i notice aren't true, the camera shows i'm peaking in the red when my zoom is set low. so i have to read my levels on something else. i also noticed a rode shotgun sounds like absolute dog shit. tried different input options, the kondor blue mini xlr for the black magic was the biggest pos i've wasted 20 bucks on.
I have a pocket 4K. I uploaded my footage one day and found not 1, but multiple dead pixels. Such a shame because there is no image like the one Black Magic produces at a fair price. Every other camera around that dollar range looks 10 years old. I wish Black Magic can fix this as they create more cameras. I had a lumix g7. It’s a small camera with not as impressive video, but after 5 years it still didn’t have dead pixels. What do I need to do? Buy a new black magic camera every 1 to 2 years? Goofy
I had the same problem with the dead pixel with my 6k pro. Calibrating the sensor and a software update probably helped. It may also have come from the high temperatures
I cant wait to see the BlackMagic fangirls’ comments about how these are cinematic features and that this is not the camera for you. The day BlackMagic (hint: they wont ) creates a camera thats reliable and doesnt have a gimped lens mount ill buy ome. These cameras are the equivalent of buying a used BMW in Miami.
When it comes to live events like a wedding I always have multiple cameras rolling for the very important events (ceremony,toasts,cultural things they want documented) so there is a backup. Recommend using cfast or SD as well
Sounds like they've fixed the flicker issue the camera was having in early production. I'm about to get one (my step up from dslr) and have seen the flicker complaint a number of times but these stories seem to be from a few years back when it first came out.
You nailed it with the IR pollution and the low light topics. I had a green cast from a B cam (6k) running Tiffen Nds... nitemare scenario matching that to the 6k pro internal Nds.
What is the one thing that bugs you the most about this camera?
That i dont have it
@@gunnarbjarkiii lmao just first world problems over here
Why on earth can’t they make better slow mo in 4k braw? In theory, taking into account the sensor readout speed, bmpcc 6k should be able to record about 90fps in the 4k windowed mode. That would have made a lot of difference to me if they enabled it, as I’d able to record flicker-free 75fps (project rate 25fps). As it stands, at the moment, I can only record 50fps (not enough) or 100 fps (too zoomed in). 60 fps is available and better than 50fps but produces flicker in artificial light here in Australia.
Gimbal use for me
Hard to believe you have over 1000 hours on the camera but you don’t know that double tapping the play button will let you scroll all your footage recorded in the specific device let say a Cfast card or T5/t7
Thanks for this! Just got one and was really trying to figure that out.
Thanks for letting us know how that feature ;-) Not everybody has a manual when they buy it. It's totally easy to believe.
In regards to low light, the bmpcc doesn't do all of the noise reduction in camera. You need to do it in post, with the free software. This gives you more freedom and control when it comes to your image, as far as I know.
What is the name of the software ?
My friend if you are a wedding filmmaker this is not for you the image quality of this camera is amazing if you are shooting in controlled environment and i think whoever shoots on this camera they knows it very well,
wedding filmmaker with cinema camera, its another dimension😂😂😂
Please say this again for all the UA-camrs comparing this camera to all these hybrid camera's! I just want to scream its a cinema camera!!
It’s definitely a good camera for wedding filmmaking If you know what you’re doing. Most of these things mentioned are easy to fix. IR pollution is a simple IR cut filter on the lens.
Just because it’s a cinema camera doesn’t mean it can’t be used for wedding filmmaking 🤦🏽♂️.
The fact that is has raw to make it easier to deal with different lighting all over the place as well as the ability to burn in luts is enough reason why it’s easily useful for wedding shooting.
Who tf would come to a wedding set with an arri or a bmpcc6k pro… people just don’t know better these days because of gear aquiring syndrlme
You can change the way you view clips in playback. You can choose the old way or the new way.
For the follow focus motor, the gear tape must be of the same size/shape as the rotating wheel (the notches). Some time ago I switched the tape from another gimbal and had lots of slipping at the gear. Other problem may come from untight connection of the plate to a camera or a cage. The metal rod is not allowed to move aside even a bit.
I never encountered the playback issue you are mentioning, I think you can’t review footage of a different resolution/frame rate unless you are currently in that frame rate mode. And regarding the gimbal use, I feel like the focus control via type-c works quite well for the 18-35.
Yeah the second issue isn't about the day it's about the framerate/resolution like you said.
i found a way to mount the 6K Pro + 18-35mm on a RS2 even with a cage on and no counterweights
Unfortunately stuck pixels is very common with a lot of cameras
When I first got my a7s I pretty much pulled it out of the box and shot a short, giant stuck pixels right in the middle right out of the box
I also do a lot of corporate work with canon C cameras and the Panasonic BGH-1
It's happened so many times that I pixel refresh my cameras at the start of every shoot
Red recommends letting the sensor warm up for 15-20 minutes first
So I'll have my shooters power on the cameras in advance and then do a refresh (with the cap on)
Sometimes a shooter will question if it's necessary, I'll zoom in on the image and show a stuck pixel and they quickly understand how important it is lol
is simple, this is not wedding camera, the hot pixel is cause several time with the camera working, battery mechanism increase temp and produces damage in the sensor, bmpcc 6k pro is a short takes camera, mount a scene, shot and cut.
Center of gravity. The weight of the camera skews to the short side of the body. Goes back to that gimbal issue you posted. I took the time to really tinker with the balancing. I can cram a pro on a RSC 2 and make it stick in any direction. The RS 3 makes that a little tougher, but the gimbal motors are so beefy, and forgivable, that making it stick on the roll is no longer a requirement.
If your not working with a Gaffer and a 1st AC this is probably not the right camera for you. Get a Sony with autofocus and face tracking and incredible low light performance. This is a DP cam not an event camera. If you can’t dial in the lighting levels like a cinematographer and don’t have control of the blocking and movement of the actors exposure and focus are going to be a challenge with this tool.
The IR pollution is from the ND filters not the sensor just FYI 😊
There is an I/R piece of glass over the sensor as well? Its just not enough to cut out what is coming from the NDs?
The way you fix your focus motor issue, that you use a baseplate with 2 rods and then fit a lens support. While you may not not need the lens support, it will stabilise the 2 rods. As a result, your motor won't move.
Balancing the 6k on a Ronin Gimbal, you want an offset arca swiss plate, so you can slide left and right and maybe a wide base plate, like the Smallrig power baseplate for the RS2 / RS3 Pro. It can be balanced without counterweights, once you can move the camera sideways.
Sadly I even tried with the lens support and of course using the provided velco strap and was still running into the same problem. I think ideally the system would work with a prime lens rather then a zoom.
But I think with DJI actually doing a full redesign on the RS3 they knew even though it worked...it wasn't necessarily an ideal design.
With the dead pixel thing you have to recalibrate the sensor, I had that issue to with the 6k
I had that too with the 4k. Why it doesn't do this automatically every few power off cycles like on mirrorless cameras is beyond me.
@@Alexrocks1253 BM cameras aren't convient cameras. You always have to do everything manually
@@Alexrocks1253 look at it this way, because you have to do it manually it teaches you the ins and outs of your camera. My 6k cam taught me on how to be a better cinemagrapher
@@blialee4837 that’s fair. It just didn’t work too well with my type of shooting since it’s only going on UA-cam and never to film festivals. It was really nice to be able to play with raw footage for a while. What I’ve done now is have a video assist and a BRaw-compatible camera so the best of both worlds!
@@Alexrocks1253 thats ok, BM cams aren't for everyone. Convience of these tools are key factors for people. Just get the s5xii problem solved lol
Hey Kilen, I'm a fellow PNW filmmaker and shoot on BMPCC6K, and recently pivoted to weddings - glad to see your work. Because of the gimbal issues you mentioned with the Sigma 18-35, I switched to using a Sigma 17-50 - smaller, lighter, easy to balance, bigger focal range, and I don't notice a quality loss. Also, I never use focus gears because, with AF lenses, you can control focus on the Blackmagic electronically with the RS2 via usb-c.
Stylistically though, I'm curious how often you shoot on a gimbal vs. handheld and why. I always use a gimbal for convenience, but recently have been experimenting with handheld for more control over focal length and angles. A video on that could be good.
Ayyyee whats up man!! Seattle!? Honestly I shoot handheld about 95 percent of the time. Gimbals have just never worked for me at weddings. But for other filmmakers they are great. Just have to find what style you like and run with it! Writing this down as a topic idea
@@kilenmurphyYessir Seattle! Awesome, looking forward to more of your work
lol eat some protein
I've never had or heard of the issue of not being able to view clips from different days, very strange. Maybe a bug?
It is looking that way maybe
You can only play back the clips that were recorded on the current settings of your camera record section.
So for example, if you texted something in full 6k braw 24ps…the clips recorded with those settings are the one that you can play back.
Let’s say you had other clips recorded in 6k 2.4.1 mode…only THOSE clips will play and it the full sensor 6k mode.
Also there’s 2 modes of clip organization in playback mode that can be changed in the settings as well.
It’s one of those things because I can assure you the playing back clips from different days is not an issue
this video seems like it should've been made a long time ago. rs3 -gimbal problem solved. Low light...bring a light, problem solved, ir pollution, ir cut filter-problem solved. Dead pixel (every cameras problem) pixel remap and davinci resolve pixel fix-PROBLEM SOLVED!
Fix lol
I sometimes have more than 5 different projects shot on more than 5 different days on SSD and never had issues with playback. All of them are visible on camera playback.
hmmmm may have to look into this further
Which camera perfect for wedding film making , Fuji xh2s, BMPC 6KPRO, Lumix gh 6 ii ???
Cool, man. Great video! I agree with every you say here. I’ve been using this camera since it came out and can relate. Cheers from Italy
Appreciate this! I need to get out to Italy soon!
Yes, I have this on my Bm 6k. I noticed this when focus peaking, while in shooting in the city at night.
It missing a thumbnail playback function, which you'll never able to quickly locate the clip you shoot before on camera.
6k G2 (owner) defense here (not really).
Dead pixels: Every camera gets them. Reason #1 why I buy a new G2 every year before the warranty expires, and sell the 11-month old G2 with Davinci at 25% off. Cheap insurance. There are ways to deal with dead pixels. Davinci Resolve has a 'dead pixel' fix in the menu. The local BM support offices can remap those pixels. Younger is better. Works for some people, too..
Playback: I unload all media daily so I would have no need to take up space on my CF or SSD for yesterday's footage. I routinely create screenshots during dailies to reference the next day, for lighting, continuity etc.
Low light: I light shadows, because film likes it almost as much as my 6k. It's dynamic range.
Gimbal: My back and knees won't do a gimbal. I use a Steadicam with vest and arm (moving subjects), or Flycam with Ronin M (stationary subjects). No more hunchback.
The 6k is a cinema camera, not just a digital camera. It's most effective for the manual filmmaker, not a street journalist or wedding videographer. It's certainly not my run-and-gun go-to camera.
I have the dead pixel on a few of my films smh i recently learned about the pixel mapping a few months ago lol
haha in fairness it is pretty well hidden
@@kilenmurphy basically every issue you stated was spot on. Everyday I’m forcing myself not to just go Sony haha I know I will miss that braw codec but the ease of use with Sony just seems like it would make my life on set a breeze especially as a solo shooter
@@KBFilms2 Seriously cannot go wrong with Sony! Just have to ask yourself what is the right tool for the job. Me filming all these youtube videos is all done with Sony perfect example.
I have a very real issue with low light on my bmpcc6k.
bro, this isn't a pain to mount on a gimbal. eat some protein, lift some other heavy things. i run this full cage, monitor, focus motor, rs2, all day. with that being said the flicker issue, and the audio issue is most frustrating with the 6k. strobe flickering, and debanding and deflickering in davinci does not fix it. the audio levels i notice aren't true, the camera shows i'm peaking in the red when my zoom is set low. so i have to read my levels on something else. i also noticed a rode shotgun sounds like absolute dog shit. tried different input options, the kondor blue mini xlr for the black magic was the biggest pos i've wasted 20 bucks on.
no way, you never back up the footage on the day? I never check the footage for yesterday,Cuz they always in my drive.
Just a question about dead Pixel, is it happening always in the same spots, or it's random for each video shoot
It is random for each video shoot
Valid points - but don't you find it hard to get smooth footage when use a matte box with top flag on a gimbal on a windy beach?
haha yes that is an additional problem as well! It was so damn windy that evening too!
I have a pocket 4K. I uploaded my footage one day and found not 1, but multiple dead pixels. Such a shame because there is no image like the one Black Magic produces at a fair price. Every other camera around that dollar range looks 10 years old. I wish Black Magic can fix this as they create more cameras.
I had a lumix g7. It’s a small camera with not as impressive video, but after 5 years it still didn’t have dead pixels. What do I need to do? Buy a new black magic camera every 1 to 2 years? Goofy
I had the same problem with the dead pixel with my 6k pro. Calibrating the sensor and a software update probably helped. It may also have come from the high temperatures
I cant wait to see the BlackMagic fangirls’ comments about how these are cinematic features and that this is not the camera for you. The day BlackMagic (hint: they wont ) creates a camera thats reliable and doesnt have a gimped lens mount ill buy ome. These cameras are the equivalent of buying a used BMW in Miami.
I’m at 2:43 Not only you can’t see footage taken at different days, but also footage you shot using different frame rates
I think davinci resolve has a built in plug in tomfix the dead pixle
learning something new everyday haha thanks for this!
use the blackmagic for weddings, that's your only problem!!
I want to ask you about backup recording. Do you have a solution for it or you are not really putting so much thoughts in it?
Have a good day!
When it comes to live events like a wedding I always have multiple cameras rolling for the very important events (ceremony,toasts,cultural things they want documented) so there is a backup. Recommend using cfast or SD as well
@@kilenmurphy Thank you!
Sounds like they've fixed the flicker issue the camera was having in early production. I'm about to get one (my step up from dslr) and have seen the flicker complaint a number of times but these stories seem to be from a few years back when it first came out.
Just recently found your channel. Love your work. Makes me want to go buy a pocket 6k haha.
Man appreciate this! Trying to rip the band aid off and be more intentional with youtube haha dooo it! its a beast!
@@kilenmurphy yeah you got good content. Keep putting out the videos. And yeah I was just looking at some old pocket footage I had on a hard drive…
Any tips on a good tripod ?
Live and die by the peak design, little spendy but worth it! Also love the I-footage monopods
@@kilenmurphy thanks man will check it out , Oh man trying to figure out either to buy the bmpcc6k or Fuji xh2s pffff
why dont you focus with the gimbal wheel via usbc
its not about the camera, its simply the person behind it !
You nailed it with the IR pollution and the low light topics. I had a green cast from a B cam (6k) running Tiffen Nds... nitemare scenario matching that to the 6k pro internal Nds.
An ice Ir cut filter and nisi tru color vnds is all you need.
@@bmefilms6879 How do you set those up together?
@@Mrjimmybuckets24 ice ir cut filter on the lens first.
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