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Vaxee PA | High Performance + Clean Aesthetics
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- Опубліковано 18 сер 2024
- What do you think of the slightly different format? I tried to trim some of the fat and focus the analysis on specific in-game situations with illustrative gameplay clips. Did it work to convey the surface feel or should I focus more on describing it in an abstract sense?
The PA is a high-quality pad that performs especially well in tac shooters and for click timing intensive aim. It should absolutely be on the radar of anyone who is looking for a typical control pad, likes the G-SR-SE, or wants a good-looking addition to their desk.
Sorry about the scuffed audio. I accidentally enabled the NVidia broadcast noise filter and it doesn't play well with my mic.
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0:00 - Intro
0:12 - Build Quality
3:48 - What does this surface feel like in-game?
10:40 - Outro
Thanks for sharing your thoughts about our product once again! :)
Really good review. The way you describe the glide sounds very close to the GP4, just with a smooth surface instead of its fuzzy kind of microfiber feeling fabric.
i swear i need an audio file w/ ur voice as my alarm, so soothing
Playback speed of 0.75 is the sweet spot for this vid, otherwise you sound like the guy at an auction house selling things off at the speed of sound.
This pad is beautiful 😍
Great review! Nice addition with the gameplay.
Amazing review as always :)
May I ask the song title at 10:30?
Bliss and Stupidity by Black Dresses
Wound u say it's smooth as qck+ or something like this? My hands get really sweaty when playing. I Need pad with no humidity issues. But pads for exemple like GP4 or equate are to fast.
The surface is super smooth and has that slicked out feel. It does have some minor humidity issues, though, and I do notice some stickiness on my arm and it slowing down my mouse very slightly. If the equate was too fast for you, then you might not have very many options. It's one of the slowest pads I've tried and heard of. The Eclipse may end up feeling a little slower for you because the surface is crazy smooth and you may perceive its speed to be different. I personally think it feels faster, but surface feel can affect how you perceive speed. It feels pretty humidity resistant, too, and it only has a very minor affect on the surface. So far the GPZ1 is feeling like it has some of the most friction I've ever felt and is very slow, comparable to the G-SR even. I haven't used it enough to have a complete take on it yet, though, so I'll have to put more time in and make a full review soonish. The LGG Jupiter may be a good option from what I've heard, but I haven't used it yet.
my custom equate is the same speed as the red gp4 for me. so it isnt that slow, or rather the gp4 is super slow too? if you want a really slow pad, look at the corsair pads. i only tried the mm200pro but that shite is S L O W, against that the equate is a speed pad. i personally dont like the gp4, something is really off with that pad.
the slowest pad I've ever used is the LGG Jupiter. I'm coming from the zowie GSR. The Jupiter is definitely my favourite as a Valorant player as it's very controlled and precise for me. (Radiant/Imm player)
@@boyzone5000 so I finally get jupiter too. and it's not slow enough :D
@@sm_tf7804 really ? Aha - I guess stick to the gsr. Overtime when your hands get a little moist or sweaty , it becomes realllyy muddy. Other than that, maybe lower your sensitivity? 😜
Great review. I'm considering purchasing the Vaxxe PA or Gamesense Radar. Which of the two would you recommend? My current mouse pad is the Hayate Otsu Soft and I've been wanting to try a slower mouse pad. I mainly play Apex, Battlefield, and Halo.
Both of those are super solid control pads that I enjoy using, but I like the PA a little bit more. The surface feels a little more linear and consistent plus it's smoother and softer on your arm with super vibrant graphics. In comparison, the radar's glide is a little quicker with a similar amount of resistance on small movements but less stickiness and static friction, so it's a little weirder. The radar may be an easier transition because it'll feel a little more similar to the otsu but I think the PA would be a better pad to dive into trying out a slower surface.
@@KraftyCraftKraf Thank you for the recommendation.
Would recommend the radar. I have a zero, hien, and hayate otsu and prefer my radar over all of them
@@iJansport did u get a radar?
About the sticky arm. Just use sporst sleeve, I tried it and its amazing for me.
Are you going to do a Gamesense Radar review?
I would like to make a review of their new 3 and 4mm versions coming out. It's a pretty good pad that I would like to talk about but the one I have is the original one that is not available anymore so I want to hold off on a review until I can make something more up to date.
Het, I like your review and my question is is this mousepad faster than the QCK+ and better for tracking ? I mostly play Rainbow Six or CS where tracking isnt that important but in the other games like apex the QCK+ feels bad for tracking. I also have the Razer strider I was playing with it for like 3-4 months now and it is too fast for me.
I've never tried the qck + myself, but from what I've heard the PA should be faster all around. It's still way slower than the strider though so it'll still be controlled it shouldn't feel slippery. It could be a good option for you
ive had the vaxee pa for about 3 months now I love the pad but I cant really microadjust with it been considering getting an artisan zero mid for my next pad just wondering should I get mid or soft?
The zero should be a great option for easier microadjustments. I really like soft personally. Mid will feel closer to the PA's harness but the stick base on artisans is much worse with the stiffer sponges on mids. Soft has a perfect base and is super comfortable while still avoiding any sinking issues you may have.
has it worn down now ? or it is still good
@@jeffry3522 hasnt worn down at all it feels pretty much the exact same still very smooth and even the edges havent frayed at all
I have this pad and the GSR SE, and I feel like this pad is a little faster making my aim a little worse. Do you think it would be worth to buy the LGG Saturn or do you have any recommendations?
The LGG Saturn will likely feel too fast for you as well because of its much lower static friction and less resistance on small motions, but the surface feels pretty different to the PA so you may end up liking it for different reasons. If you want a slower surface, the Eclipse is a great option. It'll have higher friction all around and feel more controlled without having that mudpad stickiness. It's a super solid pad if you want something high friction and I highly recommend it.
I just got the vaxee PA from your recommendation and you're right it is unique. Although the speed profile feels similar to the xten control when gliding the mouse around for some reason the PA feels faster in use. Maybe because it's smoother? It's the first pad ive used this smooth so def gotta get used to it.
Could it be the smoothness making the pad feel a bit faster. Did you feel the same way or is there maybe a break-in period with the pad?
Yeah I think its the smoothness. It feels pretty slick and glidy despite its fairly high dynamic friction. I think that's why it feels like it has more stopping power than it should. I didn't notice any break in period with my PA that I remember and it has always felt pretty consistent.
@@KraftyCraftKraf Cool. Ima just give it time then to get used to it. In kovaaks and in game i feel like very slippery it's weird. However, I just had 3 insane games in a row where my shots were landing even though it felt shaky but its working Lol
@@I3asyl how is it holding up? i use an artisan zero but im looking for something with more control and a bit slower
@@tinocabral4201 All my original comments stand but i love the pad now. The weird feeling doesn't really go away you just get used to ti if that makes sense. It's as krafty explained. It picks up speed really fast but has that static friction for micro adjustments. Its honestly my most consistent pad. Wright now im trying the jupiter, but PA still top dawg rn.
If you want SLIGHTLY slower/more control PA is perfect. If you want a considerable amount then maybe something else. It will honestly feel a lot like zero in big swipes. More controlled in small motions.
@@I3asyl after months of use , has it worn down for you ?
Hi Krafty, do you think the Zero or the Vaxee PA would be better choice for consistency when it comes to Tacfps. I used to own both but i can't recall which i like better - want something with low initial friction, high static friction/ a good amount of stopping power, dynamic friction doesn't bother me much as I feel like its something i could adapt to.
The PA is easily my number one pick for tac shooter consistency. It has a good amount more resistance on small motions which should reduce accidental mouse movements and add some much needed stability for precise crosshair placement as compared to the Zero. It's still not bad but you may find your aim to be less consistent without the higher static friction that the PA offers.
I'm not sure what you mean in the section about what friction profile you want a pad to be. Initial and static friction are terms that are usually used interchangeably to explain how much force is required to get the mouse moving so saying you want one to be high and the other low is confusing.
@@KraftyCraftKraf i guess i got confused by the terms initial and static, i meant initial as in, the friction to get the mouse from a standstill position, and static as in the friction from moving to standstill, which idt it makes any sense, but im refering to stopping power.
Ah I see. I that case, I think the zero would be better for you. The PA might feel a little too sticky if you want something with low initial friction. It’s definitely a pad built for stability.
What do you think is a good mousepad for Apex that is not a fast pad? I have tried the Razer Strider but it's too slippery and has little control for a game like Apex. I always struggle hitting shots when someone is A/D strafing in that game because I feel like the static friction is too low on it. I feel like my target acquisition is bad and staying locked in is just not there. I need something where I can have that amount of control. It did help me improve a bit in Quake Champions though. Do you think the Vaxee PA (I have seen people use this, same with GSRSE, and perform really well on it on Apex and Quake when it comes to tracking) or the Odin Eclipse would be perfect for those small movement scenarios or should I go slower? I do have an Equate and perform okay on it (better than my other pads) but the humidity and sweat issues are so bad on it. I use a Viper Mini mouse btw. :P
If you like the Equate I would recommend the Eclipse. It has a similar, but still lesser, amount of friction but doesn't seem to get affected by humidity nearly as much. It'll also avoid feeling sticky so it feels great for tracking an adad'ing target in particular. I would avoid going much slower because you'll quickly start to get to pads that feel very muddy and restrictive for tracking.
@@KraftyCraftKraf Guess I'm going for the Eclipse then. One last question, which has more stopping power, the Gamesense Radar or Eclipse? I remember your video saying they are very similar but I don't remember if you commented on the pads stopping power between the two. Thanks for the response. Greater reviewer than most.
The Eclipse has more stopping power but not by much. Both pads have a good amount of dynamic friction and the Radar always felt like it had a lot of stopping power for its glide speed so it feels like the Eclipse doesn't gain as much stopping power as it loses in speed.
Hi Krafty is there a good control pad for high sens tracking? Or is it better to just stick with hybrid/speed? Main is hien, Saturn is preordered
The Saturn would be my top recommendation in that category so I'd say you should stick with that to see if you like using a control surface. I do think that textured surfaces are very beneficial to high sens so something like the XTen would be a great option if you don't care about lighting money on fire. Then there are other control pad offerings you could branch out too like the Eclipse and Radar that I personally enjoy for tracking which you could branch out to after trying the Saturn.
@@KraftyCraftKraf thank you for the thoughtful reply. I want tactility and response for valorant, but to keep a good tracking feel like on the ac+ and hien. Can’t wait to try the Saturn. Haven’t considered the xten yet. Keep up the great informative videos!
what are some control pads you can recommend? looking at this and the gsr atm
If you're looking for a slower feeling control pad, I would most recommend the PA and Eclipse. Both are super solid options that feel highly controlled but avoid feeling oppressively muddy. The Radar is super solid as well, I just prefer the surface feel of the PA a little bit more. If you want something more medium speed with less friction and a more nimble feel, the Saturn is the easiest recommendation to make. The G-SR is still a relevant pick because nothing else has quite as much friction, but I don't recommend it because the surface gets destroyed by moisture, more than any other pad I've tried. The only other surfaces that have come close to its feeling of crazy high friction are the Equate and GPZ1. The Equate is pretty solid and a good option if you want maximum friction but with a little bit of texture as well. It is still affected by moisture and gets sticky on your arm and slows down your mouse a little bit, but still not as bad as the G-SR. The GPZ1 is the closest I've ever felt to a worn in G-SR and it has a ton of friction, especially for small movements. I have only used the pad briefly and don't have a complete grasp on the surface yet, though, but I'll be giving it some more time and making a full review down the road.
Maybe include alternatives, like when u say u like something that u can easier micro adjust with, maybe tell us what pad provides that, maybe a pad that is one step faster and then one that is 2 steps faster, so ppl can get a mental image of this =)
Great feedback. I try to describe pads without crutching on comparisons to help people understand them better even if they haven’t tried a lot of stuff, but I have been going a little too far. I’ll try to specifically reference other surfaces to give more context to my descriptions in the future. Thanks!
@@KraftyCraftKraf for me it really helps to put the mousepads in areas of speed etc, ofc only when i know the surfaces u compare them with, maybe find the most used pads and compare it to them, u have alot of detail in ur videos, probably the most of anyone in mousepad videos ^^
Great review as always dude. Im currently on the hyperx fury s looking for A control pad, would you recommend this over the Saturn? I play Valorant, Apex and halo.
I would still Maithili highly recommend the Saturn. If you’re a tac shooter only player or want something that feels more similar to your fury s, then I would lean a little towards the PA, but the Saturn works great for everything, I especially like it on the variety of games you listed, and it should still be an easy transition. The Saturn is such an easy recommendation and a great entry point into the premium control pad market.
off topic but would u say FK2 feels smaller in hand than S2
It feels a tiny bit smaller. It doesn't have that back hump to fill your hand and the lower button height gives the feeling of it feeling a little smaller, but its longer and the width is the same which helps even it out. They feel very close, just with a different hand feel that makes the fk2 seem a little smaller.
Hey is this different than the old pa mousepad?
Nope they are all the same, just different designs.
@@KraftyCraftKraf Ok saves me some $ haha thanks!
How does it compare to the GP4 ?
I haven't tried that pad yet personally, really need to around to it soon given its popularity, but I have heard from others that it's quite similar to the PA in performance with a fuzzier surface.
@@KraftyCraftKraf Hopefully you get to review it soon ! Thanks for the reply, keep it up :)
Was enjoying the video till I heard hassan
Vaxee it uncoated pad?
yeah its uncoated. The ink is pressed on using dye sublimation which will change the surfaces feel due to the high heat involved in the process but it will not leave a coating that will wear away. The pad is super durable.