Was EVERYONE Wrong About Oprah?! Body Language Analyst Reacts to Taraji P. Henson Viral clip.
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- Опубліковано 29 гру 2023
- The internet turned on Oprah Winfrey after footage of a photoshoot with the cast of "The Color Purple" seemed to show some awkward body language between her and Taraji P. Henson. This was around the same time Henson had an emotional breakdown during an interview on SIriusXM. However, shortly after the social media reactions, Taraji came to Oprah's rescue in a post where she cleared the air. But what do their body language, facial expressions and word choice ACTUALLY reveal? Find out now!
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Original interview with Gayle King:
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Newsweek article about Oprah
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TIMESTAMPS
00:30 What Happened Between Oprah and Taraji?
03:00 Taraji P. Henson Body Language
11:18 Taraji P. Henson Emotional Breakdown
20:00 Oprah Winfrey Body Language
30:00 What Does This Post Really Show?
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Gayle is low key bullying Teraji. What an awkward thing to be interviewed by Oprah’s bestie. Teraji seems like a woman with high integrity and emotional intelligence. To see her at the breaking point, is heartbreaking. Sh s an incredible actress. I wish her the best.
That’s what I thought initially 🤔
💯 culturally Yes! He was off on this because he couldn't hear all of Danielle's conversation with the situation.
Taraji was liikung THROUGH Gail. She was debating in whether or not she could be Authentic.
Taraji has done a lot of emotional work.
I see her.
I guess Steven Spielberg is a saint
That's not low-key. Gayle knew exactly what she was doing. It was rotten to the core.
Guarantee the question was from BIG O.
I think every woman watching that interaction between Taraji and Oprah personally felt it and has experienced that uncomfortable awkwardness when having to pretend you “like” someone or that everything is okay. I know I sure did😬
Yes…one always has to look professional in public regardless of what’s going on behind the scenes.
Yea, you got that right, something is off and intense. Oprah made an intentional move away from Taraji.
Oprah addressed all of this and also said it was terribly cold and Taraji backed her up but idk. She’s also a producer and may have wanted the cast together for the media opp so she noticed & moved. A little devils advocate but this is Hollywood so we won’t get the truth regardless. That’s why we’re watching professionals analyzing body language 😂
You can definitely tell it's has a touch of Pr to it.
Does everyone miss the fact that Fantasia squeeze in between Ms Brooks to get next to Oprah, and that's when Oprah removes herself. I think if there is a behavior that needs to be looked at, look at Fantastia, and Oprah.
Taraji welcomed Oprah and even leaned in for a picture. Oprah leaned out and then walked away! Taraji's eyes are fluttering to avoid tears falling...same reason for looking up at the beginning AND facing the wind to dry her eyes. Taraji is a GOAT and deserves better!
I wish I saw your comment before I said the exact same thing 😅
O just told T to shut up! She tried to gather herself and here comes O again… she tried to soften and forgive but that evil witch ran to cause her more deliberate pain
Girl, my gaydar caught that! 20:14 SNAP.
I took this completely different in the beginning. Firstly, Gail was actually throwing shade to Henson using the words audacity to minimize her autonomy. The reactions to this question including the eyebrow raises and the lone paws in addition to the emotional response indicated to me that the comment was made in confidence to someone else. Her talking about quitting was to someone she trusted so back to Gail she was basically gaslighting her saying she doesn't have the power to control her own career. It's also the tone of her voice it's not playful it's sarcastic. This tone is popular amongst workplace bullies. The long pause was Henson realizing she was betrayed and deciding if she was going to double down on the truth, which she did.
That was what I felt about it too. So messed up.
And to add on the fact that Oprah and Gail are best friends. Have been for decades.
I agree with your interpretation of that moment. I thought and felt the exact same thing.
I would only add that, the lady in yellow was probably who Taraji confided in originally, but felt betrayed by her evidenced by Gale's candid confrontation and confessional right to Taraji's face, regardless of how Ms.Yellow dress felt about it. Gale went for the raw reaction from Taraji and got it.
Yellow dress was initially shocked that Gale betrayed her confidence but then recovered herself by trying to comfort Taraji with a rub to suggest that she still cared about her emotional well being although she had obviously betrayed her trust.
Taraji did not even acknowledge her gesture because at that point it was very obviously fake
@@sisterstaciess2614 I had a similar thought. Danielle’s surprise was not that Taraji had considered quitting, but that Gayle asked the question.
Yes, this is what I surmised too.
You are dead right. Taraji is trying to be agreeable with Oprah to salvage the film,
protect her career and her mental health from those "producers". Her post is a strategic retreat . The enemy is too powerful. No shame in that. Withdraw, gain strength and live to fight another day. 😢
Especially when she was blind sided in the interview by Gayle. Taraji probably would have kept it in until the movie premiered but it was brought to light in public.
FINALLY a non black person adressing colorism ..bravo sir👍🏼🎊💥❤
Tons of other Cultures addressing Colorism on UA-cam. However, the word 'colorism' origin is by a WHOLE BLACK AMERICAN WOMAN, Pulitzer prize Author ALICE WALKER, a self proclaimed, Womanist and Author of the Color Purple.
Many non black persons address colorism, racism and lack of diversity and they been doing so for decades. In fact I just watched David Bowie in an interview with MTV asking why they didn’t play more videos from black artists. It happens but it’s ignored a lot
White woman agreeing with you 100%! ❤
I think someone else wrote it. Her PR team
Oprah is rude.
definitely a PR move. And anybody who decides to publish a magazine, named after themselves, and put themselves on the cover every single month for over a decade - I’m gonna find it really hard to believe there isn’t a pretty serious level of narcissism.
FACTS ‼️
I would go so far as to say psychopath. She seems to get off on hurting people.
I'm old enough to remember most of her TV career originating in Baltimore to her move to Chicago, going national and then global. Her magazine, her on the cover... why? Because back then you RARELY EVER saw a black woman on the cover of a non-black magazine and especially one who is considered full-figured. We celebrated her success and changing the narrative by seeing ourselves on the shelves every month. This was no small thing. Context
I also noticed watching the whole video, Fantasia touches Taraji on the shoulder as to say it’s gonna be okay and Taraji looks up to her right like she’s fighting back tears. I think they all knew the energy was off and were just trying to keep up the appearance of everything’s great..
Yes!
What about Taraji almost falling apart when Oprah walked in and moved away from her. She actually had to look up and gather herself and hold back tears
Love Oprah!
Oprah is not a nice person. Can’t stand her. You go Taraji! You are a great actress and should be compensated for that
She got paid and she knew up front, she wanted to be associated to this film and Oprah for her career accomplments it may not have been a positive experience as she may have hoped to expect the original film was a master piece this remake I don't care to watch so there may not be the money to the actors if they compare themselves to any other current film recently produced today so the math is there she just didn't care to do the math for herself she speaks for herself but she decides to name other cast members that's not her place her career choices are hers alone and she knows that speaking negative about her most recent employer publicly can and will harm her as a consequence of her timing the film is currently out in theaters worst timing ever she is harming the work that everyone in the production, and cast had worked towards this is all a distraction and that is a mess she has created for herself now
DISAGREE!! She took this moment where there was a large audience to make us aware of the issues that plague women of color in the industry!! IMO she was subtly letting us know that she also doesn't feel supported by one of the biggest names in the business.
I wholly agree. And add to it that that biggest name in the business never misses an opportunity to speak on black challenges and being true to addressing them in a strong way. Yet, Oprah doesn't appear to be addressing the bigger issue of China and other countries with their colorism in any and every very public way she can.@@lanagraham4587
in part I agree-in part. Yes Taraji signed the contract and Oprah prob is concerned about the bottom line-it's her job as a producer. In the interview with Gayle King, Taraji, says,"... I'm tired..." I'll bet she is! Promo tours are notoriously tough. And compared to Oprah she doesn't have as much experience with this stuff. Are her grievances valid? Hell, ya'! Shared during a promo interviews, ahhh... may the not the best idea...but the woman is tired and it just spilled out-tears and all. @@leomarilyn4232
It’s giving me ‘they don’t like each other vibes’
I think she was shocked that Gayle said “you have the audacity” as if Taraji quitting would personally offend her. It was harsh, her tone was triggering. Then she softened up to deflect “are you thinking about it?” That was subtle manipulation.
Yeah, audacity was a weird word. Like she shouldn’t have the right to quit and she’s somehow obligated?
@@julies7819 💡 you said it better!
I believe both Gayle & Oprah might have forgotten where they started. Everyone knows Gayle is Oprah best friend so we know whose side Gayle is on.
@@michy3075 🤌🏽💯
I agree with mostly what you said, accept Taraji’s body language towards Oprah at the photo shoot was “leaning in, and Oprah side stepped away from the “lean in.”
That was noticeable to Taraji.
Also if you look at Fantasia’s expression, when Oprah moved from Taraji and Fantasia moved toward Taraji, it was a quick “that was awkward” look on Fantasia’s face, almost reading how Taraji felt.
Just my observation and opinion.
Fantasia is definitely aware and seems to be removing herself all together...
@@willaturk-domio3965 Agree. The quick split-second look on Fantasia's face, and the fact that she was focusing on the surroundings/the view instead of interacting with the others says a lot.
Fantasia definitely peeped the shade and the look she gave taraji concluded that she did..
It was clear that Taraji moved in closer to Oprah and Oprah made that get away from me move.
Yes, I observed the same. Oprah was all wrong from moving away in that situation. Oprah definitely showed her real self there.
I’m so sorry Taraji 😢 you don’t deserve to be treated this way.
Thats why she is fighting back. Pure class. Painfull to T as it may be, why do people think Oprah is special, I cant see it.
❤️🩹🙏🏼
Taraji looks to be on the edge of tears during the entire photo shoot clip🥺
Yes!! I have the same feeling, specially when Oprah moves away and the hair grooming starts, there's something in her eyes and mouth, I can't putting into words but I can feel it.
I thought the same thing. Taraji looks like she is trying so hard to put up a front. Oprah doesn’t need to worry about it, because she is Oprah and a master at being phony anyway.
I had the same impression. I'm still not sure if the tension was solely between the two of them, or Taraji was feeling other things as well. There was definitely frostiness there that didn't show up in their interactions with other people.
I thought so too
Yeah i agree 😢
Danielle’s eyebrows: “REALLLY? That’s a crappy question to ask her, Gayle!!!! WTH?”
Something that I noticed is that when Fantasia approaches she doesn't acknowledge Oprah at all. She doesn't even look at her, her gaze continues outward at the City scape. But, look at Oprah, and how she realizes that none acknowledgment. So, she is between 2 women that there is obvious tension...she moves away quickly. Once Oprah leaves, Fantasia connects with Taraji through body language and then touch. They all had a conversation prior to that Empire State building gathering.
Yes, i saw that also. It was cold!
Yes! Seemed like Oprah was okay being near Taraji (even awkwardly) but when Fantasia came on the scene, she knew she was the odd woman out and moved away. Almost as if Fantasia is Taraji’s body guard and protector and guardian angel. With Fantasia’s body language it seems she was conveying she wanted to be near Taraji and comfort her and communicating with her body language to Oprah to move aside.
I really feel both of these actresses. My read was that Danielle’s surprise was directed at Gail for bringing this up in a public setting. She already knew how Taraji felt & that she was being put in a vulnerable position. She adjusted her position to ease some discomfort, knowing what was coming, and reached out to physically comfort Taraji in support. They are true friends.
You are spot on. I think Gail had a malicious motive. Perhaps Taraji didn't want to share that part with the whole world or even with other producers who might be thinking about her for a future project.
I agree it was foul for Gail to bring up while they were promoting the movie. It’s very suspect that Oprah”s bestie would pull such a stunt.
Let's not forget Gail and Oprah are "Best Friends" from wat back. Gail is a horrible interviewer. Think about it... how she got that job. She fits in well.
That’s what I thought as well. It was towards Gayle
@@ancienthistoryhunters3361Gail is just as sarcastic and evil-spirited as Oprah. They’re different, yet the same.
Taraji has been a top tier actress for many many years! I feel SO badly for her, falling apart like that.. she deserves everything!❤
Viola Davis has said the same think. She should be at Meryl Streep type money but she's not
@@kevaredmond3569....DONT bring Viola up...she f^^ked up the role of Michelle Obama, and was too low-down to tell the producer to make changes😮
@@IlaE.Williams-yv8xgshe did the mouth movements herself!
@@kevaredmond3569TOTALLY AGREE! Viola and Meryl were in the movie DOUBT together. VIOLA stole the show!!!! She outdid Meryl by a long shot. I love Viola. She should be one of the highest paid actresses black or white. Viola is a national TREASURE for sure!
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God I just wanted to hug her and let her cry. She deserves all she's owed.❤
The post was her trying not to be blacklisted, Oprah has power.
Sending Taraji nothing but positive vibes, love her.
You failed to mention how Taraji's eyes rolled back in her head in frustration once Oprah turned her back to her.🙄👀
Danielle whispers something to Fantasia and she moves towards Taraji with a seriously concerned look. It was almost as if she wanted to say something to Taraji.
She was immediately trying not to cry when Oprah came up..... her eyes fluttering, head back, exasperated 'okay' getting her head in the game and trying to step outside of her emotion- that is hard not to see
Agree. There’s something about the set of her mouth as well; it’s something I do when trying to hold back tears and keep composure. 😢
100%
I agree, first thing I said to myself, she’s trying not to cry.
How much did Spidey get to give a positive spin on this situation 🤔
Bingo. 💞
I’m so proud of Taraji! I’m on her side! Shame on “those” who can’t see Taraji’s worth! Keep fighting Taraji! You deserve much more than what was given to you! ❤️
Why did she accept the role?
@@jones2277 EXACTLY! If she was not okay with the pay, she shouldn’t have accepted the role. Otherwise, don’t have the gall to bitch and complain and play the victim. Nobody likes a fake victim - and Hollywood is filled with them.
Did you watch the movie? If you don't support her movies, then you're part of the problem.
She agreed to do the film. Out of respect for the cast that has to get paid too she could have waited until after they promoted and got paid to speak. Glad she spoke but the timing was not appropriate
People support movies that they WANT to see, you can't FORCE people to support movies or actors they're not interested in,@@wonzjones6599
I love Taraji as an actress. She can literally do anything.
The post from Taraji definitely felt like it was for PR purposes. I’m a little surprised you didn’t speak about during the photo shoot on the roof top how Taraji tilted her head back and tried to, what seemed like from my interpretation, to hold back tears as Oprah walked up. Taraji is naturally an animated person so it’s really hard for her to hide her emotions. I believe it was because she was trying to hold back emotions and focus on presenting herself in the best way (like we saw similarly in the other interview) that there was no shift in energy with the other cast members as they arrived, her focus was on herself and keeping it together.
Her blinking wasn't the wind bc no one else was blinking. She is fighting back emotion, tears. She is extremely uncomfortable, and when Oprah walks away, she KNOWS its bad blood and stress flairs.
Yeah she’s trying not to cry. Oprah sucks. She’s been duping us for decades. She’s fake, she’s mean, she’s outright hostile to poor Taraji. It’s subtle but it’s hostility. She considers herself “above” Taraji and probably pretty much everyone. Her day will come.😡
If you pay attention to her ponytail around her face you can see where parts of her ponytail wrap around her chin and lower lip and that’s when she really gets finicky with grooming away her hair from the wind blowing. You girls know how it is when your wearing makeup and sticky lip gloss, it just takes a little bit of wind make your hair, etc stick. Plus they are standing on top of building where it is most windy.
She looked up like she was gathering herself. The lady pointing out something afforded that. Then Danielle's looks uncomfortable and as she grips Fantasia to put her in middle may have even whispered in her ear. Fantasia turns around deadpan...and they get through. Eventhough Taraj didn't call Oprah out personally about money, it her baby and she could possibly have been wary of where Taraji's head was.
All in all this is some shady stuff in this video.
Since the interview with Gail, the other managers may have told them to give Taraji some space as to not get in the midst of anything.
Taraji may appreciate what Oprah did in the call but she knows damn well she hurt her feelings on that rooftop. Oprah was mad at her but I bet she will save face and say that she switched positions so all the actors could stand together...or some mess like that. She is a Virgo like my mom... They love to play the get back game especially if they can't control you. Taraji didn't say anything to her out of respect, Oprah fixed the issue so we didn't have another Monique saga. We heard her but nobody listened.
If Taraji ever comes across this message, I want her to know that her talents are remarkable and widely appreciated. The courage and respect with which she spoke up were truly admirable, reflecting a tremendous amount of class and self-respect. You deserve the best, and I sincerely hope positive changes come your way. 💗
❤👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👍🏽
AMEN ❤❤❤❤😊
It honestly hurt my heart when Taraji’s voice cracked mentioning that they don’t do well overseas. It’s like the realism that the entire global north sees her as less worthy. I have no clue how that feels, but I can imagine the pain. Honestly, if these countries didn’t keep pillaging resources and labor from the global south, installing leaders who do the same, the global south would be a massive market. We need to demand more of our societies.
It seemed to me that Taraji was seconds from crying. I know when I'm about to cry and don't want to, or don't want people to see it, I also distance myself, physically and emotionally, because one single interaction might make me burst into tears. That's what it seemed like was happening to me.
People who perpetrate narcissistic abuse do this (Oprah’s) behavior a LOT. They will make a point to establish they are in a good, fun mood and will extend that to everyone in the group but INTENTIONALLY “ice out” their victim. Its always done in a way that would fly under everyone else’s radar, but the victim and the abuser both KNOW the victim is being punished.
Take a good look, because this is the version of the silent treatment that abusers do in public Where the actual silent treatment would be too obvious and end up making the abuser look bad. My abuser would do this to send me the message “See? I don’t have a problem and *everything’s fine except for you (the victim), YOU’RE the problem.”*
That's exactly how I saw it. I saw Oprah being a bully. Walking out of the middle of the photo was about as cold as you can get. SHAME on u Oprah!!
Spot on observation!
I think this channel host should have analyzed the expressions and behavior of Fantasia and Danielle when Oprah moved to Danielle's side. To me it was crystal clear that they saw Oprah's slighting of Tiraji and wanted to distance themselves subtlely from it without raising tensions. Oprah moves to Danielle's side, and puts a very possessive grip on her left arm, Danielle doesn't pull away and even follows Oprah's handhold for a moment but then quickly moves her left hand up and to her right😢 in order to hold Fantasia's left arm with both her hands, subtlely leaving Oprah to her own devices. Fantasia's and Danielle's expressions say it all....not a matter of moving around arbitarily in efforts to keep warm....
@@starrbowie8649 nice insight! I just kept on watching Teraji’s body language after Oprah moved, so I’ll have to watch again.
@@starrbowie8649Yes, my observations as well. Fantasia’s expression was caught again by the side camera that no one was focussed on - just as O’s was as she moved in initially towards T. There were some very interesting chess moves going on. // O literally appeared to use D as a shield and use her again for her camera poses.
Oprah's 'help' to Maui solidified my opinion of her.
Same!!!! I genuinely still had hope that she was decent but she has adapted right in with the elite. She does NOT care about anyone but her circle of friends rich friends.
Same!
I had that moment when Cruise jumped on her couch.
So I call her Orca....they are the same types.
I live on Maui. I appreciated that she showed up at the shelter next day and brought supplies. Then she showed up at a food hub next day and brought supplies. Then she gave $5 million dollars of her own money and said there was more to come. Then she worked the phones to her rich friends to give money and supplies. I am not one to slap the helping hand away, but others are, so she is done with helping us now.
Oprah helped Maui because she owns many, many of acres of land there. Not a good look.
That part that stood out to me the most in the Empire State clip was at the beginning when she looked straight up at sky, fluttered her eyes and took a deep breath. It seemed like she was trying to fight back some emotion/tears and compose herself. This was as Oprah was about to walk up. I thought for sure you would bring that up.
A woman was pointing and saying to look up at something and she was like "oh" and smiled. It didn't seem suspicious at all.
@@skyerainart no, watch the very beginning again. Taraji looks straight up for no apparent reason other than to hold back tears by my interpretation.
Taraji is a talented, great actress. I'm really a fan of her work and would watch her in any movie. I hope she gets the recognition and pay she deserves. It seems so unfair.
You see the hurt and pain in Taraji's face. She's crying on the inside, trying to hold it together. 😢 It's hard looking at her and not feel her pain. It's written all over her face.
Taraji is looking at Oprah as if she is saying, if only people really knew how this black woman with power and money really was, it would be a shock for the ages.
@@jr38499You are right!!!
@@jr38499nope. She knows Oprah is powerful. Nothing she can do
I just have to say how much I respect and admire Taraji. She’s such a remarkable talent and I believe that her strength and truth have led her to realize her absolute worth! I wish her the very best! ♥️
Her timing was either bad or chosen well to have a bad affect on the project..maybe taraji did it now to ruin the project on purpose.
@@patjohnson6393more likely, Gayle King asked an inappropriate loaded question that she knew was not the kind of question to ask.
Agreed! She seems SO genuine and real.
Love Taraji
The way fantasia looks at Taraji once Oprah left and she steped in closer looked like she was in the know of the tension, checking to see ‘are you okay taraji’
He didn’t seem to notice that interaction. Speaks volumes.
What I appreciate most about Taraji speaking up was she chose her words carefully and clearly thought before she spoke. She wanted her comment to mean something. She could have chosen to joke back with Gayle and let that moment pass, but she didn't. She took that opportunity to educate and advocate for her fellow actors. I had never heard about colorism until her comment and Spidey's explanation.
As for her interaction with Oprah, it is clear that Taraji is hurt and disappointed but also holds tremendous respect for her. How many of us have worked really hard on something and succeeded only to be left unacknowledged and unsupported by those we hold in highest esteem? It's painful.
The question the interaction left me wondering was...did Gayle call Oprah right afterward and tell her that Taraji complained about her pay? That is something a best friend would do to forewarn about potential bad PR. On the other hand, it could also be that Oprah is intuitive and she felt the pain that Taraji was in and did not know what to do with that. Being uncomfortable, she may have moved simply to find a better energy.
That is a valid observation. I’m unsure if I agree, but I have seen and noticed this same type of (as a matter of fact, this exact) scenario being played out in the past.
However in this particular case, I don’t really believe this is what is going on.
Of course, Taraji had to appease Oprah publicly, or her acting career would have definitely suffered. I think your analysis is spot on.
Is it crazy to wonder if Gail’s comment was almost more of a discreet threat. Maybe SHE didn’t talk about wanting to end her career…
Yeah I didn't think about that, but you're right. Oprah could end her career in a heartbeat. How sad
That picture was one of the many snaps taken by the photographers seconds before Danielle joined them.If you watch the video Taraji & Oprah just grinned then Danielle joined them.Shortly after Fantasia joined them & Oprah moved quickly to Danielle & you can even see Fantasia is a bit surprised while staring shortly at Taraji.
As I said in a previous post,taraji should of could of walked away before the shooting of this movie started,if she wasn't happy about what they offered her she should of walked away..why wait until the movies done to have a winge,sadly I reckon her career now is over,she will get blacklisted.
Exactly she would be black balled like Janet Herbert aunt Viv on Fresh Prince and Monique
Minorities always get blackballed while White male actors like Bill Murry and etc have a history of act up on set, showing up late and nothing happens to them.
How nice for Oprah that she has such a perfectly placed bestie in Gail King. Gail is obviously acting as her surrogate in the interview, interviewing the cast of her best friend's movie. She holds all the cards.
Since the topic had already been made public, she doesn't have to justify bringing it up in the interview. I believe that Gail expected her to walk he previous comments back, knowing that Taraji's future in Hollywood is at stake. Instead, Taraji did the brave and honorable thing.
I dare say that she's already living to regret it.
Now she knows how Mo'Nique felt. Oprah seems to have no problem underpaying Black talent. I guess that's how you become a billionaire.
EXACTLY, my earlier comment. I misspelled Gail's name. Taraji...you keep your head up!!!🧡
Mon’que didn’t get much support from the public even though her explanation was valid. Taraji is receiving A LOT of public support and Oprah is getting the backlash. Oprah does not like getting backlash due to someone else’s actions. Think about the man that wrote the book A Million Little Pieces. She interviewed the man and I think had the book on her book club. Later she found out the book took a lot of liberties and was more a nonfiction than an autobiography. She brought the man back on her show for what seemed like the sole purpose of berating him publicly. I felt her actions were totally unnecessary.
And how she backstabbed the Jackson family and Michael in death. Disgusting supporting and promoting those lying grifters and extortionists. After the backlash she started turning off her SM comments. SMH.
Gayle King would be nothing without Oprah. She wasn’t a journalist. She wasn’t a TV Presenter, she was nothing. Just Oprah’s ‘best friend’… read lover…. Allegedly.
The difference in Taraji and Monique was the heart and spirit during the delivery.
Taraji is a smart woman. She knows exactly what she's doing. She's very much aware of how Oprah is and her record of blackballing black actors. She's aware of her fake ness, but playing her cards right by not saying too much that'll get her where Oprah got Monique. She knows how much power Oprah holds in that industry and knows her game of throwing people under the bus. She's saying just enough without saying it all because she's been in the game of that industry long enough to know how they are if you go "too far" and she's not about to have Oprah do to her what she did to Monique. Taraji knows just what she's doing, she's intelligent woman.
I think the most interesting part was when Oprah initially stood next to Taraji. Did you see Taraji lean in and Oprah react by slightly moving away? That, to me, was the most open sign of discord between the two.
*EDIT:* The more I think about it, the scarier this is. I think it has echoes of the power dynamic between an abuser and their victim.
There is a 100% lack of mutual acknowledgement between the two when Oprah approached and stood by Taraji. They each saw the other, but there was no eye contact, no connection in their faces (no smiles, no eyebrow raises.) Taraji both (subtly) threat-tracked Oprah and sought approval from her. She also seemed ready to respond to any friendly gesture from Oprah, but received none. It was as though she first needed Oprah's permission to engage with her. Taraji's reaction to being snubbed reminds me of a child who has just been savagely chided by a parent and displays that mix of shame, upset, discomfort and contrition, when they feel the parent is furious with them. Or an abu$er.
Oprah dictated the mood like a draconian authoritarian and left Taraji stressed. She even did the 'hand on shoulder' power move to the woman to her left. I don't have any strong feelings about Oprah, but I found this footage scarily passive aggressive, bordering on bullyish.
And Spidey... Thanks for all the learning opportunities this year - wishing you a happy, healthy, successful 2024. 🌷🥂
Agree with you 100%
Let's not forget how Oprah treat Monique...she abuse her power over Monique confidence and vulnerability for her own show and personnal gain. I would not be surprise IF she did something to taraj behind the scene....
Totally agree! Oprah was putting out some serious mean girl vibes in that photo shoot.
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The over done bulley dance as she walked up.
Oprah doesn't feel good about herself, bulley's never do.
Oprah's behavior was so unnecessary.
Wow! 💯 Great analysis!
Taraji seems to be getting emotional when Oprah started to walk away. My interpretation when she was blinking too fast is that she was holding back tears and emotions. Her finger on her forehead is a gesture of soothing herself, like she's telling herself "it's ok, don't cry." It's a form of self-soothing just like when somebody was about to cry and you see that person using her hands to "fan herself". Oprah made her feel non-existent when she didn't even acknowledge her presence like a tap on her shoulder or a touch on her elbow. She thinks she's above her and she could care less if her actions will hurt somebody and she thinks people/her fans will always side with her. That's what powerful people think. They have god-complex.
i was thinking the exact thing
I agree..Oprah was hella phony here and deliberately ignoring Taraji.
There may have been tension but I see two other things, 1. The place was very cold 🥶 I would be posing exactly as they did. 2. Oprah was correct in moving to the end for the photo (as the other producer) putting the stars in the middle, that is called staging. Great analysis of a fair body language read, by the presenter though. Thx.
I’m sorry, you are reaching when you begin to know what Oprah is thinking. “She thinks she is above her”?
Oprah could feel the negative vibes!
1. ❤ this channel and your respectful, professional analysis. 2. In Tariji's interview w/Gayle I saw and heard in her sighs, pressed lips, look at Gayle the dynamics of being interviewed by Oprah's BFF!!! And her thinking, "I can't believe you want to play this game". Felt like she then unleashed a load of years of dealing with the Hollywood covert/overt game as a woman and acting while being black. By the end she was at that point, "I said what I said!"
3. I don't recall you saying anything about her sticking out her chin. She did it during the interview and during the photo shoot outside. I saw it as her trying to encourage herself with self talk. Lift your head up, stick your chin out, and carry on in spite of the pain. She had to watch Oprah favor the other actors with touching, smiling, laughing as she was totally discounted. She pulled herself together and kept a stiff upper lift and put her chin out. Been there, done that.
4. PR aka reality sets in. Play the game or ...
Another cracking analysis Spidey, Thank you ❤️ I love that, no matter what you are covering (and to be fair, most of the time I’m discovering some of these issues/subject matters for the first time when you cover them), I learn something new. Every. Single. Time. 😁 In the year or so that I’ve followed this channel, I feel that I’ve learned so much from you and watching regularly has really enhanced my understanding of people and body language. So as ‘23 closes and ‘24 begins can I take the opportunity to wish you a very Happy New Year and extend my grateful thanks for all the effort you put into these videos that have enriched the life of so many. You have achieved more than you know with this channel Spidey! Here’s to that million…! 🙌
I used to LOVE Oprah. I cannot stand her now. She's been accused of this MANY times and other horrible things but her fan base keeps excusing her behavior or says everything's a lie. I hate when fans do that when they really like someone. Come on, stop the bs of praising assholes once you know. Can't stand her anymore
Same!
I tried giving her the benefit of the doubt but I'm not so sure now..
Same can be said about certain women on the "View", their fans will support them no matter what despite so much ignorant garbage they spew out of their mouths.
The way she backstabbed Michael Jackson and his family. Evil witch.
I never liked Oprzh she's phony!
The biggest stand out for me is the interaction between Fantasia and Oprah. Fantasia walks into the frame, avoids eye contact with Oprah. She doesn't even look in Oprah's direction even though she is walking up next to her. Oprah sees this and gets the feeling Fantasia doesn't want to be next to her. Oprah senses this, her smile disappears and she puts herself on the other side of Danielle. There was no verbal communication between Fantasia and Oprah. No "Oh, why don't you stand here next to Taraji." To me it looked like Fantasia didn't want to be next to Oprah evident by Fantasia walking up to Danielle but Danielle stepped aside and guided her toward Oprah. Once Oprah moved away Fantasia turned to Taraji. She was starting to do this just before the camera fixated on Oprah putting her glasses in her pocket. You can briefly see Fantasia and Taraji make eye contact, Fantasia puts her hand on Taraji's back and then Taraji look away to avoid crying.
Fantasia stood in the gap for Taraji. She knows Taraji is weak right now, from emotions. That was a “ I got you sis” move from Fantasia. She “moved” Oprah with her silence & not acknowledging her.
It seems that a lot has happened behind the scenes during that movie production and afterward.
I caught this too.
Fantasia a real one.
Very interesting breakdown. I didn't realise that colourism in films overseas was such an issue until I saw the posters. I was really shocked. As for Oprah She appeared to me over confident in the beginning and then had a mix of insecurity and anger. There was no connection with her and the others and what there was, was instigated by her not by them. The whole cast had a problem.
We also don’t know what transpired prior to the shoot. That could very well be another reason for all the awkwardness between Taraji and the rest of the cast. Almost as if no one was trying to outwardly take sides and that they were just trying to focus on the reason why they were there.
I appreciate your take on these events. My opinion is that multiple things can be true at once. I think the message was a necessary PR response. I also think that the conversation she had with Oprah was genuine. After all, she said she ALMOST walked away, which leads me to believe she was given a bump from the original offer. I doubt that Taraji believes it's Oprah's responsibility to fix the pay gap all by herself. In the interview on SIriusXM Taraji's complaint was about leaving acting. The industry. As in the industry doesn't pay fair wages. She says that she's tired of having to start EVERY negotion from the BOTTOM. As if she hadn't done ALL the movies and won the awards. It can be true that she didn't make enough for her role in the Color Purple and also be true that this is an example of overwhelm. When I saw her body language, my first thought was she was releasing years of pent-up frustration that has led to this. Whether she and Oprah have a beef, to me, is a symptom of a larger problem. This is one movie. She's been in around 45 movies and 102 episodes of Empire where she only made 175,000 an episode. To me, these were flood gates from years of working too hard for too little. And to lay all that pain at Oprah's feet (another black woman) misses the larger point. As black women, we are culturally direct communicators. WHAT we say is equally if not more important than how we say it. She deserves to be paid fairly all the time.
One thing I know for myself to be true, as well as seeing Taraji doing it, is that the fast blinking is less about processing info but more blinking back tears. She appears hurt. Same as when she looks up really far. It's to help dry the tears so they don't overflow. Once that happens, everyone notices the tears.
Who is the star of purple
Yes, she is hurt and conflicted!!! They ALL should have backed Monique!
Look at Monique now... ❤ all the way to the bank and making her $$$. ❤❤❤
Yep I noticed that too!
That’s the impression I got.
I agree; or vibe!
I think Danielle was not only surprised, but also I think she WAS a little angry/irritated. But I think she was peeved at GAYLE!
I think it was like, “Did you seriously ask her that?!”
I saw her turning her body to her co-star/friend (and also her reaching out and touching Taraji’s arm) was to offer comfort to Taraji. I got the impression that Danielle knew that this was no joke to Taraji…nor was it a joke to HER.
Love you, Spidey!
That was my first thought, assuming Taraji would have talked with her friend. I'm not sure, though. Danielle looked awfully surprised, and she directed the surprise at Taraji for several seconds. Once Taraji started to show emotion, Danielle's reaction transitioned to support. Maybe Traraji is one of those people who tries to be strong for everyone? Maybe she hadn't said anything, and Gayle found out when she wasn't supposed to?
@@yesitschelleagree, danielle was surprised that gayle was asking the question, not that there were rumors that T might retire. T could retire. She is rich. But it seems she does like acting. She is a great actor.
Amen
Wow... What an eye opener! Thank you for posting discussion of meaning of colorism / translation and doing a side by side analysis of the movie poster! First time listening to you. I will do again
Just found your channel. Binge watching. The way you speak and present the information in a balanced manner really works. Thanks for the videos, they are very entertaining and informative
When Taraji says ‘we don’t translate overseas’ was heartbreaking…💔
Yeah, being TOLD that (very innacurate statement), was an eye opener for her-you could tell that she knew that was BS. So who told her that, just to cut her down.
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Who benefits?
@@harshreality2672 EXACTLY.💯💯 Black Panther made $1.3 BILLION worldwide. The idea that black characters do not "sell" is just another lie.🙄 By adjusting the movie posters to remove black characters, it is the media and film studios that are simply reinforcing and perpetuating these lies.
Great summary of body language. You are spot on. Especially about the part in the letter where Taraji says " with that being said". I believe Taraji is exhausted with the racism, classism and politics of it all. I also believe she is of the generation where she'll stand my her truth and her mission for equal pay for African American women. Even if that means " throwing in the towel". But the bottom line is she has bills to pay like the rest of us.. but I don't think she will remain silent any longer. Yes, she'll acknowledge what the " powers that be" have done for her but she will not bend to kiss butt. Shell stand stronger. Well just have to support her through this.
Thank you
Absolutely. So sad. I was thinking that this does not happen in Aus but when I was mentally ticking off our favorite black actors I realised that they were all male which is the next hurdle that all female actors have to jump through regardless of race or colour and that truly sucks too.
I love watching your videos. You clearly know your stuff so it’s incredibly interesting and feels honest as against the true crime interrogation videos where they make blanket statements which could easily lead you up the garden path.
I feel really bad for Taraji. She is an incredibly talented actress. I’m sure she worked plenty of service industry gigs on her come up in Hollywood. You can be grateful for the success you have, and at the same time know that you are underpaid and worth more, and that is what she is giving.
😒 she sounds like privileged complaining about being too privileged to me... makes 10 million dollars on a movie and complains the government takes half and then she has to pay her Entourage so she's only left with a few million 😭😭😭 oooohhh booohooo
Guess what - the government takes half of all of our money but I'm not left with a few million I'm lucky to be left with 1,300... boohoo whining and crying over earning only a few million give me a f'ing break
Idiocy giving sympathy to the elite that have everything while we struggle to put food on our tables 🤦🏼♀️ I bet she's got no problem putting Thanksgiving dinner in front of her family
Just because a tiny fraction of actors get paid millions they all think they should get paid millions. Acting used to be looked down upon and rightly so. Now they are elevated to god level. They are literally just on a stage pretending and memorizing a few lines someone else wrote.
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As an actor, you are only worth what people will pay you. You are OWED nothing. If you don't like the money offered. Don't take it. And if the movie gets made without you, there is your answer.
@@CribNotes "As an actor, you are only worth what people will pay you" is an incredibly capitalist construction of self. Human beings are more, are *worth* more, than their work product, howEVER it is priced.
FIrst of all. As an actor myself, as someone raised what I lovingly call "Hollywood-adjacent," let me also promise you that among creators, people are valued twice over: yes, there's their price, but we all know and discuss their skills and talents. And those two discussions take place separately from, but intricately interwoven with, one another.
There's "how skilled and talented am I", there's "how recognized is that among my peers in the industry," and there's "how are these skills and talents commoditized and priced in this industry".
That last question is affected by more than the skills and talents in question, obviously. There's market forces and there's societal forces. So the question of "How much is being offered" immediately suggests the question "Why is this the amount being offered? What forces affect your offer to this person, Taraji P. Henson?"
And let's not pretend that the answer is anything other than "Lots of things other than the talent and skills of Taraji P. Henson."
You're damn right, nobody is owed anything - *except* what is promised. And I don't live in a world, and neither does anyone worth less than "never have to work again" money, where "If you don't like the money offered then don't take it" is a practical stance to take. She said it clear as day. She's got people to pay. She's got kids to feed. She's got a life to live. And let's not diminish the importance of this, her worth as a human being is to a certain extent pinned to this dollar amount, so even if the above things weren't true, she has self-worth and mental health to preserve. For those reasons and others, she has the right to self-advocate *well* beyond "if she don't like the money she can walk". That's not how negotiation works, but that's also just not how the business of being a paid artist works.
I stand with Tarji also. I recall some of Oprah past choices and they have not been consistent with what she tells the world. I pray that she works through this.
Having said that, this IS bullying. Straight up. She feels dissed and then writes an apology or clarifying letter.
Those of us who have continued to hold our heads up believing in who we know that we are or all that we can be, see this.
Sending Tarji love and compassion and healing. YOU and your co-stars WERE the STARS 🌟 SHIINING BRIGHTLY IN THIS MOVIE. I left feeling forever blessing with each song that was experienced by the heart. ❤
(Ha! And in the real world i DO speak like this. Eiy) 😊
I’m glad you brought all of this up. I remember being on the top of the Empire State building and it was cold and windy and my eyes were watering and I couldn’t stop blinking. During the movement of Oprah I thought I heard someone say it’s time to shuffle and she moved to the other end. We will never know what happened and people are demonizing others. This was spot on.
For me it wasn’t so much about the fact THAT she moved because the placement is definitely important, it was more so HOW she moved.
I want to thank you for this video! The way you broke down, colorism and translated these emotions, whether or not, you agreed with them was so polished and professional. This is why your videos stand the test of time. On behalf of black women, we value how you validate her emotions and give the deeper context. You did not take the tone of highlighting her as being emotional. 🎉❤
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I agree!
100% agree. You can feel the tension among all of them. On top of that, it felt like Fantasia was also upset. I'm sure something could've been keeping her attention over the side of the building, but I doubt it. She seemed a bit standoffish or cold as well when it came to Oprah. Furthered even more by her almost seeming not to acknowledge Oprah at all ( no eye contact, no smiles, face almost expressionless, body turned explicitly away - almost as far away as conceivably possible as one can be without being obvious) when she moved to the end. Then finally facing forward after she moves. I feel like these were things that could've been analyzed - because for me they were almost more explicitly obvious than any behavior Taraji had even if the behaviour could've in some alternate universe been indicative something else going on. Even Danielle her facial reaction when Oprah grabbed her. @@slieafrica
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Nailed it!❤
I think Taraji was offended by Gayle King saying as Oprah's best friend that you had the AUDACITY to say you were quitting acting. She could've just asked her : Is it true that you were considering leaving the acting scene? But instead she chose the word AUDACITY as if Oprah already told her to question her on it.
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Taraji should have been offended. Gayle King is not a good interviewer. Point blank period.
Of course, Gayle knew before. However, Oprah... a disgrace. She knows exactly what she did. Her greed has overtaken her lack of common decency.
Gayle is still hood in white woman world.
@@nevamontford4914"white woman world" please stop. It's not the 1960's anymore.
Spidey...I love ur channel & the value you bring as an objective observer. The one thing that can't be accounted for in interactions like this is...well 2 things. 1) is cultural subtleties thst people of certain groups inherently understand sorta like Denzel explained in the one interview...& 2) The fact that we've been looking at and studying these individuals for decades. We can almost subconsciously pick up on cues & micro-cues that don't seem to jive w/ what we perceive as normal or baseline....Sort of like a spous might do for a husband or wife...or a parent-child might or siblings. There's so much familiarity that noticing the diffs is almost innate.
I'm not sure how you missed the fact that Gayle made a statement to Taraji that she had the Audacity to say she was quitting acting. I think by Gayle saying the word " acidity" was what activated Taraji's emotions
What hurts the most is when I see comments under videos saying they will boycott the movie in support of Taraji. If anything, that would HURT Taraji more because it would prove right the people who don't want to pay her more because people don't want to pay to see black actresses in movies.
Great point.
Ophra should have thought about that
I went to see the movie BECAUSE of Taraji (and Fantasia and Danielle) 💜
I noticed when Oprah's ignoring her Taraji holds her chin up,it feels like shes saying to herself, "it's ok hold your head up high". It definitely looks like there's something off with them, Oprah might have called and told her "you better walk this back", because it could be bad for the movie. Taraji probably felt like all eyes are on her. Oprah is all about Oprah.
Congrats on 1M subs Spidey!!!
Wow!!! This is really deep & Heartfelt because like I really love me some Taraji & when I seen her crying, I was like who & what made my Taraji upset!😂. I want to say more but I'm be cool because I did hear some not so Nice things about Opera & her side kick, Ms. Gayal King but, but I'm save my comments and check out a few more clippes.
And dont forget her panhandling with rock for Maui. Shame on her . The fakeness is oozing
What are you referring to? I'm not familiar.
Totally disgusting how she took their $ and land. 😮
@@themacocko6311they are talking about when the fires happened then they 2 went on TV and asked people to give money when so many people in America don't have money to feed or get their meds or gas to get to work. When they have billions of dollars to help people plus friends with billions of dollars to help. The Rock made a sorry video and then told how much he gave and I think it was less than he did but the other one was trying to buy the people land for less than what it was worth only because they needed money to live. Now some of the people that lost everything with some family in the fires have moved many times with so many movie stars and billionaires have mansions just on the other side of the island that's empty that they could let them stay in or get them the campers that they fix for family need and put on the land to live in till they can rebuild. But what is sick is that the government only gave each family 700 or 750 when they have sent billions and billions overseas to help the family and them to fight a war we have no business in. They did it with our tax dollars. We the people should have a say in what our tax dollars go to. Plus they use our social security dollars to send also so when the 30 year olds or 40s will not have any money to get paid back to them when they turn 65 or by then it will be 80 to retire. It's all so sad... God help us all. Prayers going up for all.
The Maui incident is what has opened my eyes to Oprah & the layers of her personality, the outside layer for the public to see, the darker under layers of self centeredness due to the expense of others. Like the homeless Maui residents who could absolutely use her help, as she sits on thousands of acres of land & builds roads to the beach for her own satisfaction alone. To me that speaks volumes of who she really is.
Big time! Before Oprah was able to hide it but now it’s very blatant. What goes up must come down
Some questions: Did anyone notice Taraji biting her cheek? She also looks like she is holding back tears, and no one else is affected by the wind. Did anyone notice how O hangs on Danielle after previously seemingly not to take personal interest. Additionally, O is not only using Danielle as a shield, but she literally grabs at her until she gets he bearings and then stands on her own. Did anyone see what I saw? It also seems Danielle is trying to be diplomatic. She leans in to O, but the second she can attach back to the group -- she does. What about Blitz? He turns into Taraji while speaking and almost seems to be checking the climate of Taraji while also giving nonverbal support.
Anyone see this?
Maybe Oprah’s was onto the criticism of unfair pay of Black Artists.
I saw Fantasia checking T as Fantasia moved next to T. It was as if Fantasia was not sure if she would be welcomed by Taraji. It also could have been that displaying support to Taraji would release a flood of her emotions.
Yes - very obvious. O got wind of her interview about being under-paid through her bestie Gayle King and she’s sending Taraji a message.
There’s also something to be said about the power dynamic and both women’s awareness of it. As famous and accomplished as Taraji is, Oprah is, well, Oprah Winfrey. And especially after being made aware of feelings of being under appreciated, Oprah had no business being center stage in the PR shots, upstaging the actual stars of the movie. Yes, her involvement helped to get it made, but her time to shine was when she starred in the previous version. She was right to step aside, even physically taking up less space by standing more sideways in the photo and appearing to be “behind” her stars. It made for a better overall impression.
And the director was on the other side so that was the right move whether she was beefing with Taraji or not.
Uh, I don’t think most black women would have taken it that way. It’s more like the person with the most power and clout chose to move away from you. That’s a slight. Especially when it was so obvious.
When it comes to Hollywood, addressing rumors directly can often do more harm than good. You can't please everyone so it's better to write in generalized open statements. I think TPH stated everything and summed it up without having to divulge details. Being classy and not petty.
I haven’t been a fan of Oprah since the late 90s. I sent a letter to her that ended up on a “Letters to Oprah” episode. I was asked to take photos for the part of the episode and a courier was sent to pick them up because of the short time frame before the show. When the show aired, Oprah was UGLY to me even though she’d mentioned my request in her commercials for the episode. It was just beyond not nice. She was also ugly to people who made and sent things to her in that episode. Someone had embroidered Oprah’s face on a pillow. Oprah’s response to it was that she didn’t want to (or wouldn’t be) sitting on her own face. Why couldn’t she just say thank you? I can’t support her.
I believe Taraji’s “low energy” with everyone is because she’s in a bad place in general with this project because of Oprah. I’ve been in a spot like this where I just can’t fake my mood for anyone. I feel for Taraji. 😢
ETA: My mom just reminded me that my aunt who lives near Chicago was leaving her doctor where she’d just found out she had cancer and went to get on the elevator. Well, Oprah was on the elevator, so her people didn’t let her on the elevator. Can’t share the space with a peasant it seems.
What did she say to you?
Oprah is the worst. I never liked her. My mom used to watch her talk show in the 80s and even then I could tell she was fake. She has her own magazine and is the only model ever that is on the cover? I know it’s her magazine, but come on. The only time I was a fan of Oprah was when she was in the original The Color Purple movie.
Real talk, this sort of fatigue hits Black people harder - or, at least, hits differently - than others. We're so used to having to "smile" to take the edge off the "angry Black [insert gender for differing versions]" stereotypes. We don't have to be in the room with an antagonist for that fatigue to have us being *completely over* exerting the energy it takes to remove that edge. And that can translate as SERIOUS "f*ck you" energy.
And then there's the power dynamic of it all. Oprah won. *Decades* ago. She never has to play politics with anyone she doesn't choose to. *And* if she chooses to, she can make literally anyone from an audience member to literal Royalty dance to the tune *she* calls. And hey - more power to her! *Imagine* what it took to get to that spot, for an overweight woman working as a Chicago on-air reporter in the 80's. (My godmother had a similar career, from being on-air talent to being a shot-caller in her industry. I live for her stories.)
But, having said that, I'm not gonna cheer when Oprah uses that power to *actually* make the little people dance. And when those human beings are already disenfranchised or oppressed in some way, I get mad. Nobody gets to tell her what's what, she's earned that, but I won't apologize for my disappointment in her when I hear the behind the camera stories I've heard.
Anyway, whatever this body language is telling you, I promise you Taraji P. knows she's not Oprah. And if the wage gap is living in her head right now, that might cause some pain. Whether or not there's anything personal between her and Oprah - and I seriously doubt there is, based on the little i know of both women it wouldn't be subtle if there was - there is certainly, professionally, that power dynamic.
Remember, contract negotiation would hardly have been an actual conversation between the two women. They'd have had a high-level talk or three about the project, depending on whether Taraji had to audition or whether she was requested, then handed off the conversation to their agents and lawyers for the details.
So if there is negative energy, it may well be a combination of any or all of the above factors, plus what can happen when playing telephone about matters involving money. So much potential for miscommunication.
@continuallycountingchicken7338 The only reason you wanted Oprah's toothbrush was to put it in a case of accolades that would've meant that you had "arrived" to impress your patients. You were treating her like some sort of deity, so you just got a quick lesson about why you shouldn't. Celebrities are not deities. And yes, that is indeed gross. If it was just about you being a dentist and wanting categorical items of the industry to put in there, you could've just put in your own special oral memento, but you asked for a celebrity's toothbrush or floss to show off, probably thinking it would come autographed and stamped. Take it as a lesson learned about glorifying celebs and let that hurt go. I'm not the biggest Oprah fan, but in all honesty, she didn't do anything wrong to you, it just hurt your feelings that you didn't get the shiny, (gross) souvenir from her that you wanted.
I feel like Oprah felt that she owned Taraji because she paid her $500,000 and wanted her to do all types of extra stuff like the photo shoot at the Empire State Building. What does that have to do with The Color Purple? She looked stunning though! 😍😍😍 I pray that Taraji finds a benefactor more powerful than Oprah to vindicate her. She is an intelligent and versatile actress that deserves box office tickets and at least $1,000,000. 🙏🏾
Hollywood is shameful in the way it pays it's black actresses.
Thanks for breaking down the term 'Colorism' in the film industry. You came with receipts with that movie poster. Wow you did that ! I appreciate you Sir.☮️💜
It’s racism that they think of as justified because they’re greedy. He did a good job explaining it.
It is not about "colorism", it is about racism and is purest form.
I mean if some Chinese people prefer to see lighter actors that's their kink. I'm sure tons of people don't see a movie just because the main character is white. Which is fine too. Can't force anyone to see anything. Anyway spidey is doing too much politics these days and too little bodylanguage it's getting annoying. It's like ordering a pizza and getting a coffee instead
@@RayanEiden-js9ob The difference between a majority of a population preferring to see lighter skinned actors in movies vs the other is because white people are a majority and for the most part the white actor will not be eliminated from the movie. People with dark skin being erased from promos, scenes, etc are less lightly to get paid. This affects their marketing, their brand, and their business because they are not getting as much exposure as their lighter skinned co-workers. That's the problem with the film industry. It's more than just a "kink" or "preference". It's racism.
@@RayanEiden-js9obIt's a sign of times, wokeness, when customers choices have to be misinterpreted as racist & even invent new words like colorism to support a stupid narrative.
Re Taraji’s post and the picture she chose, it’s sad to me that she has to do damage control. It’s also sad to me that shortly after that shot was taken that Oprah (true to form) walked away. I’m hoping that things get resolved and that Taraji is finally heard!
If she hadn’t touched her arm I would think the eyebrow raise was shock to not knowing anything about it but I think it was surprise that she would ask her that question knowing there’s things going on. Then she shifted her seating and later reached out to her as a show of support while she give the answer she already knows and the answer that she knows GAIL already knows but wanted a tear jerker interview.
I got that impression as well.
I saw the 1st interview, my heart went out to Taraji. I would hate to think that Oprah is yielding her power over others. These stories coming out surrounding Hollywood are extremely disturbing.
How dare she! Oprah is a bully.
And Oprah herself might be controlled by a higher Hollywood power. 😮 Not to excuse her behavior though.
In the second clip, there weren't just several subtle behavioral clues but some pretty big ones as well. When Fantasia arrives, she is seemingly looking for some distraction herself. Danielle gestures for her to stand next to Oprah, and then pulls her in and whispers something into her "upstage" ear. Oprah quickly moves from between Taraji and Fantasia to stand next to Danielle, tightly grabbing Danielle's wrist. (Remember the Markle Claw?) In the meantime, Fantasia, looking a bit upset, givesTaraji a concerned glance and then rests her hand on Taraji's shoulder. Danielle has taken Fantasia's elbow with both hands. Oprah shouts, "COM'ON FAN-TAY-SIA" without ever looking at her, and then rests her hand on Danielle's shoulder, highlighting the fact that, Taraji, despite being the first cast member there when Oprah arrived, was the only one she didn't acknowledge. (In the meantime, Blitz is standing there just looking like a man who wants to stay as far away from flames as possible!)
Happy New Year, Spidey!!!! I absolutely love your videos! I had a few comments....until I saw the frozen picture of them on the top of the building at the end of your video. Taraji just looks sad and disappointed. I really think that this says it all. I think that we were all brought up to believe that O is an amazing, generous person. An icon and a success story of a strong woman of color who comes off as definitely supporting other strong women of color as well. I don't exactly see that, especially recently. I see a little bit of jealousy and some patronizing/judgemental tendencies in some interviews coming from O.I think that Taraji was let down by O personally and it's like finding out about the Easter Bunny. The magic is gone on so many levels.
I’m new to your channel, 1 month or so, and I’m finding it so interesting.
It must be heartbreaking for Taraji, Danielle, & Fantasia, having faced these pay gaps and possibly feeling like things would be different when they are casted in a movie where Oprah is a Producer and being treated the same. It’s especially heartbreaking because of how Oprah has presented herself in the Black Creative community and how people generally think that she’s this beacon of hope. Taraji has complained about this before working with Oprah, so I think that working with a billionaire and this person is Oprah and this very person who your community uplifts all the time lowballs you and insults your craft-it must be deeply heartbreaking.
Oprah is one of the producer. Steven Spielberg owns the rights to the movie and was the lead producer. But the blk woman gets the blame
Boom! I was waiting on this comment. Taraji working with someone like Oprah and realizing that doesn't change anything in the world of acting .
#colorism
Ya,Oprah lost me when she built schools for girls but not boys????? Education of both will be far more beneficial
Oprah is sooo sad to put black people in the same treatment she once received but money does make you selfish..sad sad..I lost my respect for her
We forget other Oprah projects like "The Wedding," "Beloved," "Queen Sugar," "David Makes Man," etc.
Team Taraji! Team Oprah 4 life! Promote unity, love, & understanding & LOYALTY. They call shine; we don't have to drag anyone. And remember: each one of them ACTS for a living--TPH seized her moment even if it caused a backlash and caused some to boycott the very movie she was promoting.
For me, it’s Oprah’s deliberate choice to leave the center of the group (which seems more appropriate for a photoshoot of superstar Oprah with the cast) and walk to the edge of the group for absolutely no reason other than to obviously tell T “hey, I don’t want to stand by you.” Oprah’s behavior throughout this whole clip reminds me of the bully middle school girl who is the leader of the pack. No one wants to be on her bad side because she will ghost you and get everyone else to ghost you. This is especially the case when Oprah ignores T and walks over to D and suddenly becomes the fun girl is laughing and touching D and even leaving her hand on D for extended periods of time making D feel special. Yes Oprah, we all know how fun and cool you are and T knows she must grovel now. T looks like she is about to cry in my opinion. Just like you would in middle school! So lame Oprah.
Or Oprah was moving to the outer edge so that the three main actresses would be centered in the photo
@kcd5797 Ummmmm...no.
Yes, for the photo shoot. The three main characters should be together .
Plus Oprah seemed to be the shortest so it makes sense to be at the end. But there still could be beef.
@@kcd5797 I agree, you can argue for both reasons, and maybe both are true!
I really enjoy your analyses. They are on point.
1st, Kudos for all your videos! 2nd, I get that you bring this up to stay objective and remind us not to jump to conclusions. QUESTION: At about 25:30 when you talk about the eye-flutters possibly being from the wind and cold, would it be meaningful to compare her "base flutter rate" to that of the others who are also in the wind and cold?
I was thinking that too, I didn’t see any of them with much eye fluttering at all. And he did say that can indicate processing of information.
I taught ESL in Chinatown , NYC for 11 years, and YOU ARE spot on with regards to the BLATANT colorism (which is ABSOLUTELY the child of racism). I am in the category of a light complexed African-american . My students ( mainly young adults) LOVED me.
When my CHOCOLATE sister substituted for me on occasion, they actually verbalized their discontent.
I do feel that TARAJI's statement was Damage control aka Public relations.
We LOVE, APPRECIATE and BLESS YOU, TARAJI......Remember...YOU ARE THE POWERFUL CREATOR OF YOUR PRECIOUS JOURNEY 🙏🏽💚😇💯‼️‼️‼️
What kind of discontent did your students verbalize?
@queenjazz1 They would say things like.."Teacher, you are more beautiful than your sister. " We like you better." The blessing is that it opened the door for me to teach them the true history of this country with regards to African and Indigenous people. I could explain the brutality of rape which would have me and my sister on opposite ends of the color spectrum. They receive some very twisted views of African people BEFORE they even get off the "boat"
@@rashidashabazz7319This !! Thank you for being there for our future kids to teach them nd guide them on the history of why things are the way they are. Thank you 🙏🏽
Thank you for teaching them this 💜 did any of them realize they were doing this?
@@applechanel8983 Thank YOUUUUUU, BELOVED.🙏🏽💚😇 Remember that WE
ALL are teaching all the time. It doesn't have to be verbal with a chalk and backboard. The manner in which we LOVE and ACCEPT ourselves is a SUPREME LESSON for planet EARTH 🙏🏽💚😇💯‼️‼️‼️
I'm so glad you did this video. It's so hard to see Oprah who has so much power to treat someone so wrong. She knows better. She's revealing her true narcissistic personality. 🥴
Not sure if you ever saw her show when it originally aired. She was a host who always, always made every guest's story about herself. The narcissism has always been there. There just weren't any platforms back then to point it out to everyone.
@@Zumcho I did. I think I watched every episode. But at the time I was completely blind and obviously not listening or paying attention. I think that's why over time I began to question why I was seeing her differently.
Yep. She is extremely hardcore about anyone associated with her signing watertight NDA's so nothing bad about her gets out. But the leakages still happen, and at the end of the day Oprah is awful - greedy, vain and abusive.
Appreciate Taraji for speaking “her and the” truth! Thanks to everyone who read the body language in the clip and spoke on it. Great additional analysis Behavioral Arts.
Let’s continue to be transparent and call it like it is!
Hi there! I love watching your videos, they’re very intriguing and make you look at things differently. IDK if you’ve gotten requests to analyze Shannon Sharpe’s interview with Katt Williams yet, but if you have, you’re about to have a field day!
This isn’t the first time Taraji has said this. She talked about this in interviewers during Empire’s run. Especially about being told about shows/movies with black leads not doing well overseas. She was mobbed by fans when they did promo overseas! She also made a comment about what she was paid compared to other actors on other tv series.
I remember Taraji, Kerry Washington and Viola were on back to back on Wednesdays. I wonder how much they made compared to their counterparts.
How long can you hold that in without “going off”? Plus, Gayle seemed kinda flippant when she asked that question. She rubs me wrong.
The clip with them in NYC, Danielle energy knew something as well. Oprah conscience is bothering her. Oprah also opened up more when she moved to the other side n took off her glasses. Fantasia was very uncomfortable. It definitely is a power struggle. Oprah is older and knows exactly what she is doing.
The picture shows how uncomfortable Taraji is and the rest of the ladies were towards Oprah. Everyone tried to keep their head straight instead of welcoming vibe. The post was to mellow out things between them to “fool” the public.
A picture speaks a thousand words.
Very good analysis. New sub.
This isn't the first time I've heard negative things about Oprah, even though "everybody" loves her. I remember years ago some back and forth between her and Fifty-Cent, and now I hear THIS plus something from years ago about Monique (which I hadn't heard about because I've been living abroad, to explain how I never heard about that situation). I get the feeling the public tide is turning against Oprah. We're living in a time of revelation about the doings of a lot of celebrities (P-Diddy, Tyler Perry, etc). Much that's been hidden seems to be coming to light.
How brave of Taraji to put the truth out publicly knowing full well what it may cost her. The idea that Oprah and others like her who are very public about the black challenges do not step up as Taragi has and put it all on the line to address those challenges is hypocritical at best. She has the position, power, and funds to bring this colorism issue to the forefront in a very public way, yet if it hadn't been for Taragi speaking up, it would have been swept aside yet again. Taraji had a Martin L. King moment, and Oprah failed miserably. I hope Taraji stays the course and continues to be a role model for all those coming up and doesn't quit in her career nor in her fight.
You're probably 100% right & THAT'S why Ms flippin' Winfrey doesn't like Taraji!..She's jealous of her..& probably in more ways than one!!.🤨...
Well Said👏
OPRAH, isn't feeling any pain.
Uhm, Monique said this years ago.
Tiffany Hardish was saying the same thing and they didn’t take her seriously they said she’s drunk you could be drug and can tell truth while looking crazy bc it’s CRAZY!
I think you’re very accurate in this breakdown and yes we’re viewing this from an unbiased perspective, I have but I also looked from a cultural standpoint I am Black American as soon as Fantasia entered Oprah seems to shut down as Fantasia approaches, Fantasia’s body is seemingly reluctant when joining the group she then went to Taraiji and looked to her in solidarity Fantasia has a seemingly strong personality with a sense of strong protection and power! Danielle seems to be a peace maker not choosing sides to the public Taraiji has the presence of communication and Oprah appears to have we will handle this in private persona almost giving the feeling I will allow each one be an individual but don’t forget Im still Mama….growing up in black households we have the saying what goes on in this house stays in this….or what I say in this stays in this house….also a lot of us will code switch depending on the environment or audience this all plays a part in body language
Spidey, I do love watching your show and listening to you deconstruct events, and this one was no exception. I will say, however, that I am not too convinced about the rationale for the grooming and eye blinking, for the simple reason that just before she started doing that, we see her do a gesture as if something in in her mouth, and I know that feel well. Very often my hair gets blown into my mouth, or stuck to my lips and I do that same gesture to push it away. Additionally, my hair also flies into my eyes and gets stuck there and actually pokes me in the eye causing a lot of blinking, before I reach up with my hand to pull it off my face.
It is hard for others to see exactly what I am grooming, because it is typically only one strand of hair. Very often it takes several tries to find it and unstick it from my face. All of these gestures in that exact sequence, I see Teraji go through, and if one were to look closely you'd see both her hair and that of Oprah's move more than before, indicating that there was a shift or increase in the wind. I think that particular sequence of mouth, eye, and hand gestures (first one hand then both) are nothing more than battling the errant strands of hair that is creating havoc in her mouth, eye, and cheeks. I go through the same same, in the same sequence....and I'm not a groomer
What did Gayle say? She wasn't being playful. She was baiting Taraji on Oprah's behalf in front of the cameras. That she heard "in the street" that Taraji had the AUDACITY to considering quitting acting/(stop talking). A lot of Taraji's feelings was sadness combined with anger and frustration. And, one reason her eyelashes were fluttering to not cry was to avoid her mascara running. Gayle was not being playful; she was attempting to be manipulative. Gayle tried to catch her off guard. And, Gayle had an inkling of how Taraji felt but went there and opened that can of worms. Gayle should not have done that as it put a pall on the occasion. But, Gayle is not very bright.
Oprah is a selfish, greedy, sexist fraud. That's just a fact. But, Oprah will not be happy with this and will put the word out to avoid working with Taraji.
I agree Gayle was probably baiting her for Oprah
Gayle did nothing different than what we would expect a wife to do with her co-dependent toxic spouse... That's her woman; of course she will be loyal to Oprah.
Gayle is always going to be Team Oprah no matter what the situation is.
Yeah I agree. The interview was for a movie promotion which is usually upbeat. I think Gayle ask that as a subtle jab from Oprah. She was surprised at the honest raw response she received.
Agree
Oprah doesn't even look at Taraji! And Taraji looks up after. But Taraji trues to smile.
I just found your video analysis of Kat Williams. I am hooked! LOVE your videos!
Danielle is touching Teraji to tell her it's okay to speak and speak the truth! That was a reach out of support
How sadly predictable! We know who holds the purse strings in the entertainment industry. It doesn't matter how horribly Oprah behaves, she's still in power, so all who want to keep earning good money in the industry must pander a bit.
I hate office politics so much! Watching people walk the tightline, terrified to offend anyone, necessarily causes my respect to diminish.
No one should have to pander to anyone!
Who holds the purse strings on this production? What's their budget? I haven't looked this one up. Some of them, the producer negotiates contracts. That's especially true on smaller, low-budget productions. With big ones, it's usually the corporation.
🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾 the later statement. Thank you.
Only the weak and no integrity will pander. H3LL NO‼️ Grow a damn spine. 🤨
Taraji was told to walk back her comments to Gail King (Oprah's bestie). Either that, or she remembered who butters the bread she eats and that the internet could tell what was up, so she needed to pay homage to Queen Oprah publicly. We all have to pay our bills. I think eventually she's going to find something else to do to buy that butter for her bread.
I hope 50 cent helps Taraji as he has reached out. Oprah has enemies and silent ones to boot.
She's getting exposed more & more.
That look D made was ‘like really bih you bring this up on here & it’s your friend behind it’‼️
Good insight. The initial eye fluttering may also be makeup related as many women with false lashes and lots of mascara will instinctively look up and blink repeatedly and/or fan their eyes to try to minimize tears and ruining their eye makeup.