Shadow Raid - 75 Detection - ALL LOOT (PAYDAY 2)

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  • Опубліковано 31 жов 2019
  • Payday 2 Gameplay/Playthrough.
    Shadow Raid, 75DR, all Loot. Sounds easy? Try it LOL
    This was way harder than expected. Well ...maybe I'm a bit rusty and rushed a little bit too much but most of the fails/restarts are from bad RNG. But even with perfect RNG you still have the insane detection from guards. And getting the artifact from the main yard is just crazy.
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  • @M0rtifer
    @M0rtifer  4 роки тому +243

    I put a lot of time and work into these videos from recording to editing and finally answering comments. So please support my work.
    How? Just don't skip the video, watch the whole thing and leave a like and a comment :)
    I know it's a long video but remember, I don't upload that often ;)

    • @beekeyy7416
      @beekeyy7416 4 роки тому +11

      @UCcl4ZASPV24gAzkoLs7JhPQ there are a lot of people who like this game, if you don't like it, why do you comment on the channel based on this game? sorry for bad english im from poland: D

    • @M0rtifer
      @M0rtifer  4 роки тому +17

      @@beekeyy7416 Already blocked ....just a troll. Better not react to these kids ;) But thanks :)

    • @andyrook7429
      @andyrook7429 4 роки тому +6

      I watched the whole video, didn't even skip a second!! I am speechless. Absolutely outstanding!!!! Amazing work!!

    • @guyharris9537
      @guyharris9537 4 роки тому +1

      Just 3 ads? 4 would be fine too lol
      At least thats what i think (:

    • @stabby_ninja5788
      @stabby_ninja5788 4 роки тому

      I NEED SUBTITLES PLEASE

  • @bugra9700
    @bugra9700 4 роки тому +293

    Public stealth:
    People cant drive in time in car shop
    M0rtifer:
    *I’ll just solo stealth shadow raid with 75 detection*

    • @M0rtifer
      @M0rtifer  4 роки тому +20

      😁

    • @ashikjaman1940
      @ashikjaman1940 4 роки тому +16

      To be fair, the driving sucks

    • @GenocidalSquid
      @GenocidalSquid 3 роки тому +3

      I came close to losing it.. but I did it.
      On freaking normal are you fuckin-

    • @ALPHABYTE64
      @ALPHABYTE64 3 роки тому +2

      @@ashikjaman1940 only on the Biker Heist

    • @ALPHABYTE64
      @ALPHABYTE64 3 роки тому

      @@ashikjaman1940 it is not racing game

  • @Killtesblocs
    @Killtesblocs 4 роки тому +153

    22:34 Rare picture of M0rti thinking about the meaning of life

  • @dmitrymolotov6428
    @dmitrymolotov6428 3 роки тому +90

    “Armor thought to be lost for centuries”
    Throws it down a sewer grate

    • @cchhiicckkeennss
      @cchhiicckkeennss 2 роки тому +4

      yep Bain: wow that ____ is rare, Yeet it over and over again till it goes into a truck

    • @simpled5755
      @simpled5755 2 роки тому +2

      Bain: wow that armor is a lost relic
      Us: throws it off of a 2 story building

  • @ItsLhaza
    @ItsLhaza 4 роки тому +73

    That’s literally insane I can’t believe you got everything including the armor you’re definitely top 0.001% of people that play this game extremely impressive

  • @gembly3237
    @gembly3237 3 роки тому +67

    *Him on death sentence, 75 detection risk, all loot
    guards: I sleep
    *Me on normal, 3 detection, 3 bags
    guards: real shit

    • @dundun26
      @dundun26 2 роки тому +1

      sorry

    • @simpled5755
      @simpled5755 2 роки тому +1

      lol. That’s how it be sometimes

  • @guitarist1511
    @guitarist1511 4 роки тому +210

    the most professional stealth player in this game ^^

  • @bradypahl
    @bradypahl 4 роки тому +100

    When you've been using under 10 detection risk for so long cranking up to 75 detection risk you can absolutely feel the difference & praise going back down under 10. Also something we can all agree on, screw ladders in this game! GGs morty GGs.

    • @M0rtifer
      @M0rtifer  4 роки тому +12

      So true!! :)

    • @GenocidalSquid
      @GenocidalSquid 3 роки тому +5

      Naw boi. Screw ladders in Shadow Raid in particular.

    • @adam-ve3rd
      @adam-ve3rd 3 роки тому +1

      Screw ladders In every video game

    • @Mrhosick
      @Mrhosick 3 роки тому +2

      @@GenocidalSquid *shackleton auction*

    • @TheHorrorFanatic450
      @TheHorrorFanatic450 Рік тому

      Ive been only using 3 Detection Risk and it just makes me feel stealthier. Ill find other things that may increase my dr by a bit but its better. Always worth experimenting

  • @hnnngv
    @hnnngv 4 роки тому +61

    Man's a madman, gg bro, actual best Payday2 UA-camr and player out there. First time hearing your voice in a vid, nicely done brother.

  • @GregRivles
    @GregRivles 3 роки тому +8

    Hi Morti!
    I began the game recently, and since I've discovered your channel, I see Payday with a new perspective.
    The 75 Detection challenge is a way to make Payday more realistic, more difficult. I'll give it a try someday.
    Thank you for your work, it's really inspiring - both as a videomaker and as a player :)

    • @M0rtifer
      @M0rtifer  3 роки тому +2

      Thanks a lot. I really appreciate it 😊

  • @boodlenoodle871
    @boodlenoodle871 4 роки тому +11

    Hi M0rtifer I remember when you watched one of my streams on like another account or this one, I didn't believe it was you and I freaked out. I was playing hox breakout, thanks alot for watching my stream it made me happy :)

    • @M0rtifer
      @M0rtifer  4 роки тому +4

      It was this account ....I remember you :)

  • @npete
    @npete 4 роки тому +56

    This is like...
    M0rti: *Have nothing to do*
    M0rti again: *Looks at his shadow Raid videos*
    IT'S M0RTI OK?!: Ok so i will do shadow raid all loot with 75 DR c:.
    )that is no ideas for videos like i don't have idea for this comment(

  • @taymhadiyg9910
    @taymhadiyg9910 4 роки тому +25

    Love the way you do missions
    You're just good at the game
    Keep up the good work :)
    👍👍

  • @trqcker
    @trqcker 4 роки тому +14

    morti is the reason why i started playing payday 2
    best decision ever. luv your vids keep it up man! :D

    • @M0rtifer
      @M0rtifer  4 роки тому +1

      Thank you 😊👍

  • @mr.chiant8787
    @mr.chiant8787 4 роки тому +9

    Love your vids this helps me a lot for this hard mission. Cant imagine how much time you put at making videos but that is worth the time spend, thx u very much

    • @M0rtifer
      @M0rtifer  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks 👍 yea it takes a lot of time but it's worth if people enjoy the content.

  • @ineedtoplaythis9062
    @ineedtoplaythis9062 4 роки тому +8

    3:49 happens to the best of us

  • @KeyboardComedian2001
    @KeyboardComedian2001 4 роки тому +21

    I remember this in Twitch livestream.

    • @M0rtifer
      @M0rtifer  4 роки тому +10

      Yea ....I was failing a lot ^^

    • @npete
      @npete 4 роки тому +2

      Too bro

  • @merchanttoiletpaper6128
    @merchanttoiletpaper6128 4 роки тому +33

    I love this heist, and even if you play 24/7 i will still love your content.

  • @XxIMWATCHINGYOUxX
    @XxIMWATCHINGYOUxX 8 місяців тому +1

    This is the most satisfying video i ever watched, keep up the very good work

  • @TheWinterWarning
    @TheWinterWarning 4 роки тому +10

    i feel that at this point, you are just bored with stealth lmaooo. sick run and as always, the amazing patience you have to run this.

    • @M0rtifer
      @M0rtifer  4 роки тому +8

      Still love a good stealth challenge. I don't play that often and play a lot of other games ....that's how you don't get bored ^^

  • @JTSickGaming
    @JTSickGaming 4 роки тому +2

    I feel SO much better about myself after seeing you still biff a ladder with all the hours you've played. Awesome final run!

  • @TaxEvasion420
    @TaxEvasion420 3 роки тому +4

    Literally every time M0rtifier gets 99 detection my anxiety goes through the clouds ☁️😂😂😂

  • @LukaRadosavljevic03
    @LukaRadosavljevic03 4 роки тому +2

    Great video tried somethimg similar a few days ago ... Broke my keyboard out of anger lol. awesome job as always

  • @robertoguercio7011
    @robertoguercio7011 4 роки тому +33

    Hi morti can you play the big bank in solo in one down whit 0 skils

    • @M0rtifer
      @M0rtifer  4 роки тому +12

      Sure. I'll try that soon

  • @rzxov8638
    @rzxov8638 4 роки тому +1

    Thx M0rti for all those videos

    • @M0rtifer
      @M0rtifer  4 роки тому

      Thanks for watching :)

  • @uroborospd2691
    @uroborospd2691 4 роки тому +4

    thank you for being a youtuber you help me so much

    • @M0rtifer
      @M0rtifer  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks for watching and commenting 😊

  • @nico2635
    @nico2635 4 роки тому +1

    Another banger as always😁

  • @scorky
    @scorky 3 роки тому +2

    Me whenever morti tries to go down in the sewer: please dont fall please dont fall *please dont fall* *PLEASE DONT FALL*

  • @davidpurpleartist8125
    @davidpurpleartist8125 3 роки тому +1

    i remember shadow raid the first time where i always tried to loot the outside area with the shipping containers always got spotted or couldn't get to a pager quick or a dead body was spotted it wasn't until i seen a vid you did on here of using the sewers and i didn't know about the sewers until i gave up and stopped playing for about 4-7 months where i tried differant ways but i never knew about the sewers until like my 87th attempt

  • @Nomad-9-9_
    @Nomad-9-9_ 4 роки тому +12

    3:15 But yo wtf, how did that guard spot you ?! (0.0)

    • @M0rtifer
      @M0rtifer  4 роки тому +5

      I don't know ....some kind of bug :(

    • @adam-ve3rd
      @adam-ve3rd 3 роки тому +1

      D E C Y N C

  • @Luphor
    @Luphor Рік тому +2

    Really impressive as just one bad move and you restart

  • @cateye9110
    @cateye9110 4 роки тому +6

    3:51 😂😂 best fail so far #bestofM0rti2019
    Great run, keep it up bro ! 🙂

    • @M0rtifer
      @M0rtifer  4 роки тому

      Yea LOL ...thanks!

  • @henrysmith1496
    @henrysmith1496 4 роки тому +2

    I love your videos and I have been watching you for 2 years

    • @M0rtifer
      @M0rtifer  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks a lot 😊👍

  • @GlamityJean
    @GlamityJean 4 роки тому +2

    I haven't played payday 2 for a while and just coming back to it, I remember the love hate relationship I had with this mission :D

  • @vermeerschremi8038
    @vermeerschremi8038 4 роки тому

    Great video M0rti

  • @seminark
    @seminark 4 роки тому +4

    3:13 when your detection's so high that the guards can see you through walls.

  • @alextheone7438
    @alextheone7438 4 роки тому +2

    Love these videos just got back into payday and had no idea what to do, lol but anyway keep up the good work man

  • @FREQuentlyy
    @FREQuentlyy 4 роки тому +1

    a good challange as always morti

  • @simianyew73
    @simianyew73 4 роки тому +2

    Bro you are a talented Heister. I’m glad that you can find a lot of fun in payday 2.

  • @ivanabri6079
    @ivanabri6079 4 роки тому

    Welcome back to 75 Detection
    You are so amazing M0rti

  • @harryrosshr
    @harryrosshr 3 роки тому +2

    Nice work

  • @someguy316
    @someguy316 4 роки тому +1

    that last fail... I felt that

    • @M0rtifer
      @M0rtifer  4 роки тому +1

      yea ...so bad :(

  • @darkscoperninja24
    @darkscoperninja24 3 роки тому +1

    Du bist soo gut digga respekt obwohl das Video bisschen älter ist very good gameplay bro 💪💪💪💪💪👍

  • @bradypahl
    @bradypahl 4 роки тому +1

    Coming back to this video for #bestofm0rti @ 3:40 is my favorite moment of the year. Just cause the amount of times I've had that happen when your so far along in Shadow Raid. It was so relatable I couldn't stop laughing

  • @danielchristie2519
    @danielchristie2519 4 роки тому +1

    God damn you are good at this game, btw falling from a hight with less than 10 bags happened to me on golden grin. Anyway you are really good at this game, keep up the good work

    • @M0rtifer
      @M0rtifer  4 роки тому

      Thanks :)

    • @adam-ve3rd
      @adam-ve3rd 3 роки тому

      One time I threw a Molotov on the upper level of the vault in golden grin, should have took the dentists loot and ran

    • @danielchristie2519
      @danielchristie2519 3 роки тому

      @@adam-ve3rd it sucks when you spend so much time on golden grin but then something bad happens and screws everything up

  • @RodLucanor
    @RodLucanor 3 роки тому +2

    You are a true artist

  • @Pluton702
    @Pluton702 4 роки тому +1

    Good work - like always ;-)

  • @CukiDarko
    @CukiDarko 4 роки тому +1

    You are awesome dude!

  • @gembly3237
    @gembly3237 3 роки тому +1

    The spotting range is insane

  • @bulgartefo9252
    @bulgartefo9252 4 роки тому +2

    You are the best !!! Thumbs up from Turkey

  • @doomhi4457
    @doomhi4457 4 роки тому

    Love your work keep up the good work

  • @DannyBoy-yy3bs
    @DannyBoy-yy3bs 4 роки тому

    You’re insane mate

  • @mattclever8980
    @mattclever8980 4 роки тому +1

    Amazing 🥳

  • @erdemertan2630
    @erdemertan2630 4 роки тому

    you are truly a respected person 👍🏻👍🏻

  • @DinnyeYT
    @DinnyeYT 4 роки тому +4

    GG! Nice video :) Just a correction for the intro... You did all loot once, with 75 DR. With me :)

    • @M0rtifer
      @M0rtifer  4 роки тому +3

      True ^^ but never solo. Thanks my friend :)

  • @xSydney
    @xSydney 4 роки тому

    Respekt! Ich werde das die Tage auch mal probieren :D

    • @M0rtifer
      @M0rtifer  4 роки тому

      Danke :) Viel Glück 👍 braucht man leider -.-

  • @shippoeggroar9605
    @shippoeggroar9605 4 роки тому +1

    I forgot about M0rti until a few hours ago. Im glad i remembered him

  • @Dushess
    @Dushess 3 роки тому

    HEAVY SECURITY here was brilliant.

  • @mostafatefa4638
    @mostafatefa4638 3 роки тому +2

    3:14 I never seen it before 😂😂😂

  • @White33
    @White33 4 роки тому +1

    Holy shit, you have the patience of a god

  • @PorcupineFood
    @PorcupineFood 4 роки тому +2

    3:30-4:01 That fail is kind of depressing. I'd actually cry if that happened to me

  • @abtinalmasi3769
    @abtinalmasi3769 4 роки тому

    Excellent!

  • @safezone1050
    @safezone1050 4 роки тому +1

    Master stealth lord.

  • @2cxt441
    @2cxt441 4 роки тому +2

    Ich frag mich wie du das schaffen kannst!? Ich mein naklar, hat das Sehr sehr viele Versuche gebraucht aber trotzdem so eine Leistung abgeben!? Perfekt wirklich perfekt! Btw: Join bald deinem Discord.

    • @M0rtifer
      @M0rtifer  4 роки тому

      Ja ....viele der Versuche waren restarts wegen Helicopter oder static guards. Aber ich kenn den heist halt auch komplett auswendig.

  • @yolper123_3
    @yolper123_3 4 роки тому +7

    awesome video i cant believe how you did it i can barely do it to get minimum loot with 3 detection risk ur awesome btw keep it up!

  • @boobymcpoop2598
    @boobymcpoop2598 4 роки тому +1

    I did this mission so many times that I hate it over all the glitches, but I will support you from italy

    • @M0rtifer
      @M0rtifer  4 роки тому +1

      I appreciate it :)

  • @kanzakiwildan2356
    @kanzakiwildan2356 4 роки тому

    M0rti is master of shadow now

  • @logandevore9560
    @logandevore9560 2 роки тому +1

    Only a true madman is capable of doing this

  • @vynixcico4355
    @vynixcico4355 4 роки тому +2

    good vid, nice job!:)
    have you heard about the console update?^.^
    Oh M0rti goes public stealth #3?

    • @M0rtifer
      @M0rtifer  4 роки тому

      Yea ...finally they work on console updates again.
      Public stealth? Maybe ^^

    • @julianviefers6703
      @julianviefers6703 4 роки тому +1

      its annoying consoles, for the most part, are usually the ones who miss out on many things

    • @vynixcico4355
      @vynixcico4355 4 роки тому

      @@julianviefers6703 true

  • @juancatano2358
    @juancatano2358 4 роки тому +5

    Nothing:
    M0rtifer: 75 detection...

  • @vertexheister
    @vertexheister 3 роки тому +1

    3:14 looks like someone had the sixth sense skill 🤔🤣

  • @brunow.a.8539
    @brunow.a.8539 3 роки тому +1

    That's the fkin crazy thing we all love

  • @RyanMK666
    @RyanMK666 4 роки тому

    Aye, that’s pretty good ;) gg’s morti

  • @rybread1035
    @rybread1035 4 роки тому

    Alright, I have been binging old M0rti content, and I tap on this one and suddenly, BAM he has a voice, gg

    • @yes-jb9et
      @yes-jb9et 4 роки тому

      Why did u say "gg" :3

  • @TheAverageOsakerLover
    @TheAverageOsakerLover 2 роки тому +1

    Btw when I had 34 reputation I didn't know what weapons that can have silencers and I was broke at the time so I did this with the rattlesnake sniper rifle,so basically I did the entire thing on normal with 75 detection risk I got like 6 loot bags somehow with no assets

  • @blackbow4099
    @blackbow4099 3 роки тому +2

    When he fell from the sewer ladder and got downed, i felt all his pain and suffering

  • @marcostorricoquiroga8578
    @marcostorricoquiroga8578 4 роки тому +1

    I know that this is 7 months late and idk if you already know this but you can force the helicopter to spawn with the cargo if you stand in the landing site right when it spawns. That means a no extra guards 100% of the time if you do it right :)

    • @M0rtifer
      @M0rtifer  4 роки тому +1

      Yea ...I know that since 2015 ^^ But with 75 Detection, it's not that easy to get there in time without getting detected and it's also a little gamble to make the heist even harder with more guards ;)

  • @omnidirectionallamppost2647
    @omnidirectionallamppost2647 4 роки тому

    I’m on console so it might be different, but for shadow raid I’ve always went up to the helipad at around 3 mins and just chill until the heli comes in, I think being in that spot before it spawns in guarantees it to be another artifact but I’m not sure. Just something I noticed whenever I played through this. Very awesome video so far as always :)

    • @M0rtifer
      @M0rtifer  4 роки тому +2

      It worked since I started playing this game in 2015. Did it like 50 times before ....but it didn't work for me now :( Even got a video of me standing there and the helicopter comes with guards.

    • @omnidirectionallamppost2647
      @omnidirectionallamppost2647 4 роки тому

      M0rtifer that’s really strange, maybe they knew you were doing a challenge and just wanted to make it that much harder on you ;) hahaha

    • @M0rtifer
      @M0rtifer  4 роки тому

      LOL ...I don't know. I thought...maybe they patched it.

  • @davidspahn3933
    @davidspahn3933 4 роки тому +1

    Another Video nice🤗

  • @JimGreen569
    @JimGreen569 3 роки тому +2

    Your voice is as smooth as butter

  • @matellie
    @matellie 4 роки тому

    Gg the best youtuber of all the World

  • @Macanudo_mix
    @Macanudo_mix 2 роки тому +1

    what a gamer

  • @aos32
    @aos32 4 роки тому +1

    You can block the helicopter by standing where the helicopter lands at around 2 minute play time. So a container with loot will come instead. But I am sure you know this already.

    • @M0rtifer
      @M0rtifer  4 роки тому

      I know that, it's around 5-6 min. ....but it didn't work for me like 2 times. Even got a video of me standing there and the helicopter comes with guards.

  • @universal5280
    @universal5280 3 роки тому +1

    Good job I almost did it I got all the loot in the warehouse but outside artefact got me caught and I missed most of the shipment containers

    • @M0rtifer
      @M0rtifer  3 роки тому

      Yeah, that's the hardest part. Moving an artifact with 75 DR and many guards around you.

  • @awesomespurr3606
    @awesomespurr3606 Рік тому

    A few things you could have done to make this challenge slightly easier:
    If you stand on the helipad where the heli drops off the guards exactly when it shows up, it removes the possibility of the heli guard spawn. Likewise, the heli will spawn 5 minutes after you first enter the facility.
    It's simple enough to take out the cameras before heading into the Courtyard so there are less eyes.
    Then again, I haven't done this challenge yet, I'm just speaking from my own non-challenge experience with DSOD Shadow Raid. This is also your first video I have watched, so you might already know about these.

  • @andriuszemaitis8370
    @andriuszemaitis8370 3 роки тому

    Rainbow laser point: *exsits*
    Guards: nothing to see here

  • @dz_ryan04
    @dz_ryan04 4 роки тому

    22:34-22:41 when M0rti is contemplating about life #bestofM0rti

  • @tgdrake10
    @tgdrake10 4 роки тому

    As someone who's recently started playing Payday 2 your videos are a wealth of knowledge and taught me how to stealth! Thanks for putting so much work into your videos, it shines through to the final product.

    • @M0rtifer
      @M0rtifer  4 роки тому

      Thanks for your comment :)

  • @dz_ryan04
    @dz_ryan04 4 роки тому +1

    3:09 #bestofM0rti

  • @Silvie59
    @Silvie59 3 роки тому +1

    wonderful voice there good sir

  • @oyuncucu7230
    @oyuncucu7230 4 роки тому

    nice video

  • @KetunpesanPelailut
    @KetunpesanPelailut 4 роки тому

    You still are the God of Stealth :)

  • @bart5908
    @bart5908 4 роки тому

    Good job.

  • @funneharfaller4336
    @funneharfaller4336 4 роки тому

    I wasn't here atleast a month, ah the nostalgia
    Hi, m0rtifer.

  • @ALPHABYTE64
    @ALPHABYTE64 3 роки тому

    So nice
    I Barely do this heist with d-risk 3 xD

  • @sashapinesnguyenhienhoa8003
    @sashapinesnguyenhienhoa8003 4 роки тому

    Remind me of the 75 dection rate achivement on the painting map just luck and time im sure this is more painful if you have to wear armor

    • @M0rtifer
      @M0rtifer  4 роки тому

      Luck and time don't help if you don't have at least a little bit skill ;)

  • @wetu1727
    @wetu1727 4 роки тому +1

    Yeah ur favourite heist is now complete in all ways

  • @FireWolfGaming101
    @FireWolfGaming101 2 роки тому +1

    Hey I will watch you play shadow raid for ever it’s my favorite map in payday 2

    • @M0rtifer
      @M0rtifer  2 роки тому

      I did a lot of challenges on shadow raid. It's my all time favorite heist. ua-cam.com/users/results?search_query=m0rtifer+shadow+raid

    • @FireWolfGaming101
      @FireWolfGaming101 2 роки тому +1

      @@M0rtifer I know I’ve watched all of them

  • @_nocturno
    @_nocturno 4 роки тому +2

    "Civilians are an Asset, if you kill em they are gone"
    *-Bain 2019*

  • @samuelhenriquez7195
    @samuelhenriquez7195 2 роки тому +1

    How long did it take you to do the run with all the fails included? 🤔

    • @M0rtifer
      @M0rtifer  2 роки тому +1

      Not sure but usually these harder challenges take a few hours.