mushroom roots turned into effecient industrial packaging products is a significant development towards making eco-friendly alternatives at a large scale.
There are still some vital problems with this solution: -It's not as compressible as styrofoam, it's much weaker, it may not protect some heavier products as it was designed to do. -It breaks down in less than a month, making storing items with it impossible and also making expected delays in shipment turn into certain product invalidation, this also makes the ideia of having a sale storage impossible (manufacturing will only begin after client purchase), making it a hard to predict business. -It grows fast, but not nearly as fast as a machine can form a styrofoam mold, it will have to bring up many more advantages, because if it only sticks to "it's better for the environment" no one will buy it; because corporations don't care about the environment. Unless it's only for food restaurants and once-upon-a-time deliveries with premium package (because you can bet it's not cheaper than styrofoam), then it will do well and find it's place. But finding it's place in the current packaging industry will be insanely hard.
Anything putting a dent into the use of styrofoam, I am all for it. Hope the people running the business can upscale and succeed in making their packaging an industry standard within most products currently using the common styrofoam packaging.
There packaging only lasts 30 days before its broken down, this can never be used for shipping items on a boat, like what dell and all other tech companies do. hahahaha Good idea but unusable until we start shipping everything by plane and even then its only usable on items sold within 30 days of being packed. RIP
@@habib_the_panda why would we want to ship everything by plane may I ask? I know both planes and boats are harmful to the environment but how do we avoid it? Alternatives need to be made for those aswell.
@@habib_the_panda I doubt after 30 days it just collapses into dust...I would assume that's 30 days in a landfill, compost bin or "optimal environment". With use of desiccant pouches it can probably last indefinitely in shipping container or warehouse conditions
It makes sense for the beacon if people don't mimd the change taste, structure, etc but as for styrofoam the economic definately goes against them. It wpuld probably cost 10-20x more than regular one
@@roxylius7550 I was thinking the same thing about the styrofoam price, but wouldn't be plausible after it becomes more common tho? & I'll definitely try their MyBacon if I can find it near me
@@GeN56YoS it would be so far in the future that we weren't even using oil as our fuel anymore. Styrofoam is a derivative product of petroleum, meaning that as long as oil price remains relatively cheap as it's right now, so is styrofoam. It costs next to nothing to produce a sheet of styrofoam, probably several cents. Compare it to the effort and material used to procure wood dust, fungi spore, and set up suitable environment for the fungi, the number simply doesn't add up. But of course, for high value product like computer server or candle, people might be willing to spend that extra dollars. Not so for mass cheap consumer products though.
This is good. For anything "eco friendly" to become mainstream it must be either much cheaper than what it replaces or much better. If they keep the price down, they just might do that.
Yeah that's the point that caught my attention the most. The amount of cost-to-product they're getting from it, and their market price for the product will be the deciding factor. This is why people don't generally eat organic or buy eco-friendly products: Because they're usually substantially more expensive. Anywhere from 1.5-5x the cost depending on what product you are trying to get. If Organic food was half the cost, and eco friendly vehicles weren't a massive money sink, there would be no real argument against them (generally). But those problems haven't been solved yet, except here where we see people who understand that the cost will make or break their company.
@humandxp yes climate change naturally happens, but not as this pace. We’ve changed the climate of earth that supposed to happen in thousands of years to just about 100 years.
@@ambienthangout so you choose the fake, chemically engineered meat. With fake fat, fake taste, and fake smell. Over the naturally genetically bred consumable meat? What you gonna say? Saving space? Animal farm only need 1/4 than crops field (talking in industrial size) And talking about industrial. Once a product goes popular. It just a matter of time before the industry heavily abuse it. Look at fast food chain. How much they add chems to a BUNS! Think, if they can abuse the buns that can be made 100% organic. How much chemical they can add to heavily modified food like vegan bacon? 👉😠👈 Think Kevin, Think!
I mean, that's not even new. If you remove the cheese from cheese curls / Jax, you have corn starch packing peanuts. I believe those have already been used for a long time, but not as commonly as foam.
This was actually really interesting to watch and I feel like governments should be investing in these innovative companies to help tackle the growing waste problems
@Tilde Aqium Yes I agree, I'm not against veganism, is a life choice. I in fact I work in straight contact with vegan food producers, one note though, lots of meat and animal fat isn't healthy, but also the popular conception that all vegan food is healthy is wrong. Lots of meat substitute have colorant and preservative that are quite bad, as with anything else, just need a bit of common sense. Take care!
Vegan or not, in the end, price is king. If their projections are correct and their product could be up to five times cheaper, then the whole debate will be over.
@@VitaKet "There are still some vital problems with this solution: -It's not as compressible as styrofoam, it's much weaker, it may not protect some heavier products as it was designed to do. -It breaks down in less than a month, making storing items with it impossible and also making expected delays in shipment turn into certain product invalidation, this also makes the ideia of having a sale storage impossible (manufacturing will only begin after client purchase), making it a hard to predict business. -It grows fast, but not nearly as fast as a machine can form a styrofoam mold, it will have to bring up many more advantages, because if it only sticks to "it's better for the environment" no one will buy it; because corporations don't care about the environment. Unless it's only for food restaurants and once-upon-a-time deliveries with premium package (because you can bet it's not cheaper than styrofoam), then it will do well and find it's place. But finding it's place in the current packaging industry will be insanely hard." Alan Watts, in comment below.
As somebody who takes hikes in forests with the almost exclusive purpose of looking at mushrooms, the idea of a mycelium-based future makes me incredibly happy
Stock's are crashing, Bitcoin Investment right now will be at every wise individual list in a month you we be ecstatic with the decision you make today
That comment section forgets about one thing. Will it be cheaper or compareble cost to styrofoam. Without that, there is realy no point in deweloping this idea as styrofoam alternative.
@@Ciapa93 to really make a change there are three parties that have to work together: the people, the government and the industry. If people are willing to pay a few cents more for the environment, the government restricts the use of styrofoam and the industry provides alternatives like paper or mushroom we can do it.
@@vaderetro7530 People used to be able to do so. Starbucks halted people bringing their own cups due to Covid precautions. Maybe that'll change back in the future.
When I was a kid I would obsess over Campbell's mushroom cream soup, and I was fully convinced mushrooms would be the future of food. Now I can say to younger me that he was a visionary.
when i was at a distant cousin? forgot the spesifics, i had a huge ass juicy burger, fish and chips and some other stuff. Then i saw soup thing in a cup, i tried and HOLY SHIT that day made me love mushroom soup, everytime there is mushroom soup on a menu, i would instantly order it.
Brilliant, the numbers speaks for themselves. Just hope the taste is not too horrible, but instead of expecting realistic bacon flavor and texture, we could just see it as a new category.
But actually NO ONE will tell the difference if the seasoning is good. Just think of some smoky flavour, lots of salt, and that's it. If combined with other food, like on a burger, you wont recognize the difference. 99% of meat just tastes like its seasoning.
I would believe this actually is a better tasting substitute that others. There are mushroom strands that taste like olives and lobster. This is an amazing idea especially since it grows extremely fast.
This is so awesome!! Also for anyone who's concerned: no the packaging won't biodegrade in the box while the product is on the shelf. It will degrade when it's exposed to moisture and sunlight and bacteria, things that shelf stable products are kept away from anyway.
@@JohnPorsbjerg hmm I hadn't thought of that/assumed it was obvious, but now you mention it, what about mice & rats? It would be edible to them wouldn't it? Cockroaches etc too. That could cause some small problems & limits in it's use, not enough to impact it's potential right now, but long term there could be some settings where that's a problem, in particular farm related products that need to be stored in packaging on the farm for a period of time
@@mehere8038 very few things eat mycelium besides woodcutter ants. And if you have woodcutter ants in your warehouse you have bigger problems lol. Rodents don’t care for it any more than they do cardboard.
If I’m going to eat a fake meat, I want it to have a really short ingredients list, not a huge list of chemicals. Mushrooms, seasonings. Yep, I’ll try that.
I'm sorry but you're just buying into bullshit. Everything is made of huge lists of chemicals. Here's the detailed list of "chemicals" that constitute the ingredients of one all-natural chicken egg, no human intervention (apologies that it's in all capitals, but I'm not writing it all out by hand): AQUA (75.8%), AMINO ACIDS (12.6%) (GLUTAMIC ACID (14%), ASPARTIC ACID (11%), VALINE (9%), ARGININE (8%), LEUCINE (8%), LYSINE (7%), SERINE (7%), PHENYLALANINE (6%), ALANINE (5%), ISOLEUCINE (5%), PROLINE (4%), TYROSINE (3%), THREONINE (3%), GLYCINE (3%), HISTIDINE (2%), METHIONINE (3%), CYSTINE (2%), TRYPTOPHAN (1%)); FATTY ACIDS (9.9%) (OCTADECENOIC ACID (45%), HEXADECANOIC ACID (32%), OCTADECANOIC ACID (12%), EICOSATETRAENOIC ACID (3%), EICOSENOIC ACID (2%), DOCOSANOIC ACID (1%), TETRACOSANOIC ACID (1%), OCTANOIC ACID (
@@RhodianColossus they meant added stuff. Everyone knows that eggs are harmless and healthy, but when you see chemicals without knowing how those chemicals may effect you or how good they are, that's a problem. I get the point you're trying to make, but this doesn't work like that. Added chemicals are put in for texturing, flavoring, and color, eggs don't have added content for that. Last time I checked, chickens aren't putting in cancerous food dyes or artificial flavoring into their babys.
@@RhodianColossus What Sister Cats said. Also the point isn't just unhealthy additives, it's the production of those additives. When you have a product with 20 distinct ingredients you're bound to have more waste than when you have a product with 4 ingredients.
@@JohnPorsbjerg There's also the benefit in that you're _choosing_ what you like, in case the "large soulless corporation" is too damn stupid to follow the latest science, or know _why_ intelligent consumers would want to avoid certain things. (I say "large soulless corporation" because most corporations are essentailly "governmental, coercive decision-makers" now, but with "plausible deniability" added...) The fewer ingredients there are, the less you're mindlessly accepting some stupid person's decision about what constitutes proper diet. (Think about why corporations failed to switch from sugar to stevia for a good example of the "corporate lawyer" fear-governed mindset I'm criticizing here.) For example: I want to avoid gluten, because I don't want gliadin in my brain, nor to burn out my mitochondria with high-GI carbohydrates. I avoid sugar for the prior mitochondria reason, and to avoid developing metabolic syndrome or type 2 diabetes. Nearly every single canned good or food product up and down several aisles of the grocery store is loaded with the prior, plus lots of "preservatives" that sometimes wind up in your liver or kidneys. There's a good reason to avoid nearly all of it. This wouldn't be the case if the food items simply contained "just what's necessary." I don't care about the color: I care about living longer and healthier. A long string of non-nutritive ingredients implies something about the lack of philosophy of the people creating those canned goods. It's for this reason that I want people like Eben Bayer to become multi-billionaires. We need smarter industry, and we can't have that with people whose philosophy is limited by government schooling. (I say this in spite of his comment, that is aligned with Frederick the Great's "All true wealth comes from nature." ...Frederick II was a somewhat enlightened despot, in spite of his birthing the ruinous practice of government-run schooling. For example, he financed the building of giant greenhouses so Prussia could rear silk moths, to try to become independent from the Asian silk trade...)
Seems like the food alternative part of the market will grow on it's own and that's fantastic. As for the polystyrene alternative, still some work to do but it's certainly something positive and definitely something more people should get behind. Not sure about that bacon alternative but I'd love to give it a try. The proof of the pudding etc.
It always makes me feel much better about the world when i see people finally trying to make a difference look im not a vegan or someone actively trying to lower my waste but i try
It's honestly not on you man. The corporations are the ones stuffing the shelves with plastic and they're the ones that fund ad campaigns that make you feel bad about not recycling their plastic (which is funny cus only 5% of recyclable shit put in recycling bins is actually recycled). Huge industries like the fishing industry or the lumber industry ruin the world because of their completely unnecessary, destructive practices, and then they have the balls to blame the average person lol
@@PinkBroBlueRope 15 years ago I remember reading in the news about how the trash/wast refuse company that services my home had made a huge profit recycling. The next day I noticed my trash bill had nearly doubled over night. I said to myself thats it I'm not wasting my time sorting trash only to make them rich by punishing me with higher trash fees. Another one: (The electric car) when it first came out everyone was given a free deal to use the express lane for free if you bought an eco electric car. So lots of people bought it thinking they were going to use the express lane for free indefinitely. Nope, you guessed it... they discontinued the free express lane benefit before all the suckers that bought into the Oboma eco car scam had them paid off.... Now the new scam... Get solar put on your house for freeeeee! Yea right.... no thanks. I'm waiting to see where this scam pops up first. 👀. Next: fake bacon!! 0h ! He'll no ! Are you people crazy? The human body is no programed to eat computer generated food. You people ate the perverable carrot waved in front of your noses by falling for the GMO ( scare scam ) only to be led into eating computer generated food like mushroom bacon. OMG people! Your all off your ever livin rockers! And you paid to learn this in college? Seriously? More homeless people with useless college degrees coming to America's shopping centers and neighborhoods near you.
@@PinkBroBlueRope Majorities of Corporation thst relies on cheap plastics is in China. Since a lot is made and available for cheap, businesses skew towards them. Replacing the world supply with a alternative means robbing the money from cheap plastic, which they will hate.
@@stevethomas5209 solar energy isn’t a scam?? You definitely can’t run a house solely on solar panels, but there are people that live in RV’s and use solar panels to run a minifridge. Another thing I’ve seen is people reusing water in their house, such as bathwater being stored and used in the toilet. And the MyBacon isn’t computer generated? It’s mushroom that they just grow in a special environment. I want nothing to do with it because I never trust mushrooms, but it’s not bad for you, at least not any worse than bacon. I know nothing about the recycling, nor ecocars. Where I am, you are charged for having “too much garbage”, and ecocars are too expensive for the average person. But lets not act like everything is a conspiracy or scam.
@@stevethomas5209 mushrooms are not computer generated lol. Thats like saying you don't eat anything but raw ingredients that have never been mixed with other ingredients. Humans are pretty much walking talking mushroom bacteria, I recommend taking a biology class
Depends how corona sensitive your current career is. It can be super sensitive like Gym trainer or hospitality or non-sensitive like programmers or artist
@@Akindone53 yes. Shiitake is a far better umami meatier option. Oyster mushrooms are amazing for making po'boys, since they actually taste like oysters.
Sometimes products sit in boxes for a long time. I wonder how long this mycelium packaging lasts before it starts degrading. Very intriguing and encouraging.
Duh, what they mean is that they can't confirm that it would conform to the exact flavor of bacon. However, it tastes amazing. So it doesn't mean that they haven't tasted it, as you seem to imply.
@@darksunrise957 not far though, month degrade limit and 10+ days for production make it really commercially unusable anywhere where styrofoam is used.
Mushrooms were hated and Ostracized for the longest time, 10 years ago was probably the point at which the research started picking up pace, Both for New inventors and current ones. Research on Mushrooms was strictly controlled as well.
@@stanjockson That's literally right now..... Simply means they need to find ways at growing it faster that doesn't contaminate us or the earth. Mushrooms research for the most part was Strictly controlled so they aren't that far into it yet.
I've heard a lot of tripping stories, and they are very exciting,I would love to try magic mushrooms but I can't easily get some, Is there any realiable source I can purchase from??
The Trips I've been having have really helped me a lot,I finally feel in control of my emotions and my future and things that used to be mundane to me now seem incredible and full of nuance on top of that I'm way less driven by my ego and I have alot more empathy as well
It makes me really happy to see efforts like this really trying to make what we do, sustainable. I just hope we're able to turn things around fast enough before things are truly irreversible
dnt let people scare u. things are never irreversible. Thats why humans made it this far. not that we shouldnt work for improvement now... but were pretty fkin good at problem solving although generally only put in the effort when its do or die or theres money on the line
i know for a fact that mushroom bacon will never taste the same as regular bacon. But that being said, i love the taste of fried mushrooms and can't wait for this product to become more widespread
@@benisrood Still takes a week to grow any of your packaging though, compared to styrofoam which takes around an hour to have a finished product. That's a logistical headache for any company that they don't need, especially when 'just there for a paycheck' dingus lets our stock run low and we need more the next day. Can't see it catching on with that cure time, as cool as it is.
@@skitz0299 Well as with most manufacturing, product usually sits in warehouses, ports or at wholesale distributors for months to years waiting to be requested. Samsung for example don't manufacture and package your television to order and this packaging is going to start to rot after 30 days sitting on the docks lol. It's completely unfeasible. There is nothing wrong as it stands anyway with wood/paper pulp pressed (biodegradable in 1 year) packaging that most companies are starting to use now. The other big problem not addressed in this video is the molds. They try to play it off with the whole " this plastic is recyclable so we can reuse it and make another mold ". What they didn't mention is the fact that for every single piece of packaging you need an individual mold. Just for 1 type of 27" television which the company produces 12 million units of per year, you will need 1 million 27" television molds, because the process has to occupy that mold for a full 7-10 days. Current pressing or injection molding uses a SINGLE mold for a millisecond before the molded packaging is ejected and another is made in the exact same mold. In short if this was to become the normal thing then they would have to purchase and store BILLIONS of plastic molds because we produce 100's of billions of packaged products every year (can't find an exact figure but 380 Million Tonnes of plastic packaging). They would essentially be creating far more pollution then they would ever solve using this method of mold creation. In reality taking wood or paper pulp which is their starting material but simply grinding it down smaller and more fibrous then using tonnage to pressfit it into a mold takes a literal second to do, uses one mold, has more durability and takes less than 1 year to biodegrade in soil. it's a cool science experiment, but in terms or feasibility it has none when other ways are already existing that aren't so ludicrous. Small indi food trucks and that sort of thing that cater to 100 customers at lunch time could use it fine. Anything larger and it becomes a nightmare for both parties sadly.
@@zack9912000 but it’s not profitable enough, thus the market will put it in the valley of death.... you don’t understand how many great products have been killed off for being unprofitable.... search up the light bulb conspiracy.... yeah I sound like a nut but it’s interesting
@@zack9912000 It could be, using an initial research fund. The fact is science pays, a lot, just not in direct enough ways for most companies to fund it.
I feel like most people don’t realize how amazing this is becuase they don’t realized just how small most mycelium is, it’s basically microscopic and can be so dense that one table spoon of it can be stretched out for a around a couple miles, so not only is this stuff light it should be pretty dense too
@@sarahrichmond7077 well let's start while we still can, better now than never and hope that people don't be "the world is dying anyways let's set everything on fire"
I'm studying zoology and we've just covered fungi. It's really caught my attention, and this has only given me more hope for future sustainability by using this amazing resource.
Most importantly, the processes to make this seem super easy to automate because it's literally just "mix wood chips, water and spores -> dump into molds -> put into storage for a week -> bake to kill the mycelium -> release finished product."
it would actually be better in an automated system because you could scale up production even more because everything could be sealed and you wouldn't have to follow decontamination procedures to prevent other fungi/bacteria from taking over the growth medium.
@@Theinatoriinator good point re automation Krawurxua & yeh, exactly Logan, much more efficient if all done by machines in clean rooms! Much more reliable too, no contaminated batches
Is there a process to remove allergens from the shipping packaging? With the mybacon, are the fat claims based on the pre-cooked state of the products, or are they comparing the cooked oil saturated mushroom to the rendered and drained pork bacon?
Here in Germany we would loooove this bacon! and the market for meat alternatives is huge and already well established. keep my figers crossed for this company. this is our future, hope near one
@@jacobwhitehurst4983 I mean, every current cultivated veggies and fruit on the supermarkets are GMOs with added nutrition. So the outrage towards this innovation are pretty baseless I'd say
One of the companies I regularly buy my supplies from, has been using potatoe starch "peanuts" in their packaging instead of styrofoam for close to thirty years. I throw it in with compost, and it also dissolves in an instant with little water.
I have a question, let's say that this packaging ends up in nature, aren't we going to have myseulium spores everywhere and wouldn't it be harmful for local species?
That is a very interesting question. It probably has an answer, this video didnt cover it tho. Anyways, plastics are harmful for local species as well na
Mycelium and spores are literally everywhere in our world, including on you. They don't take off because of environmental conditions and humidity. Exactly why we don't have trillions of house flies flying around in the usa - nature keeps balance!
It scares me with its capability to get into the brain of animals or be paractic, its tiny spores being a menace, just hope they dont lab up something meant to destroy waste that starts to destroy more
@@magnem1043 If it happens it happens tbh, either we find a way to reverse all the harm humans caused to our home or our home finally find a way to get rid of us. Already have to deal with mold which can make humans very sick, which has no research at all and is just a natural occurrence in humid/wet homes.
I like meat, though I have been cutting back lately, and this sounds amazing. And the degradable styrofoam too. I'd love to buy stock in a company like this.
You're really not the only one. Probably because it's fairly easy these days to just eat a veggie burger from the supermarket or something like that. I sure ate meat (or occasionally fish) everyday 10 years ago.
This is great, a cheap alternative to leather and all, but when bigger brands start asking for this, all the sake of being "cheaper" will just go to waste
I love seeing people creating solutions for the problems we as humans create. I hope one day I too create something that can help the environment if only in a small amount
Eh, I don’t think so. They would likely put in additives that would be meant to make the styrofoam more hardy but incidentally also make the mushroom-based styrofoam less tasty if not downright toxic.
I am all for eco alternatives if they perform well and are priced competitively. This is very promising. I would try the fake bacon but wouldn't give up the real thing.
@@boowiebear OH now I know why UA-cam was so unpopular when first made, I always wondered that. It used to require an INVITE to go on UA-cam. Well eco friendly things are needed in life too and I hope there is more UA-cam content about it.
@@insectbite1714 UA-cam was not made by Google. Google bought it. When Gmail first came out that was really the only thing the Google account was for from what I remember. Then other products they bought or made like youtube got rolled into that account. Now to understand why UA-cam was created, we have to go back to the 2004 Super Bowl....
How would you know? And seeing how slow shit changes in the world we'll all probably still be able to eat bacon in 100 years. The point is that it'll be once a year instead of once a day.
@@Jzwiz I'm fine with mushrooms, but not with added flavours, so for allergy reasons I was thinking the "bacon" is out of the question for me too. Would you be ok with it as packaging? Remembering it's cooked before it's considered finished, so no spores or anything coming off it. If you're not ok even with that, dam that's going to be a problem for you in the future!!!!!!!!! (if this goes ahead & takes a significant percentage of packaging)
Yes yes yes to mushroom plastic, styrofoam and leather alternatives. Currently in my Etsy shop I do use biodegradable popcorn packaging but for my candles I would switch and support mushrooms!!! MUSHROOMS 🍄 are the answer to so many human issues!! You can live off of mushrooms, micro greens and clean water. THANK YOU GREAT JOB👏👏💖💖🍄🍄
30 days isn't enough time for most shipping. Goods often sit around on store shelves or warehouses for a long time before they are shipped. Also wondering about water resistance. What happens if the packaging gets wet or humid?
When it gets wet is when it starts breaking down. In a regular warehouse, this packaging won't just suddenly rot or break apart. However, if thrown in a landfill where it gets rain and sun on it, then it starts to decompose. Cardboard breaks down in less than 3 months under similar conditions, just is used worldwide in shipping for the same reasons.
o the packaging won't biodegrade in the box while the product is on the shelf. It will degrade when it's exposed to moisture and sunlight and bacteria, things that shelf stable products are kept away from anyway.
Packaging is imho already solved with paper/cellulose/starch based solutions. Im more interested in substitutes to more hidden use cases for plastics, like the insulation of mains cables in walls (often PVC), or resins for composites like in PCB's. The food aspect is very intersting though, but without the possibility to try the product there is no way to tell.
Good point. But if they can build a successful business model on packaging, then that's good news for the R&D funding to investigate anything else you can imagine. Plus it can't hurt to diversify our approaches to packaging.
“30 days to break down” if anyone has ever made a stock order from dell you know you’ll be waiting 2+ months, so Dell must only be doing it express shipping single items, i am not ordering from a company thats uses packaging that will breakdown before the stock i need to sell gets to me, it would literally be an e waste disaster. Everything has its limitations.
Mushrooms have always been the answer
Facts
Lmao!
True IV allways jokingly called them THE OTHER WHITE MEAT...
Pvz haha puffshrooms
mm yess mushrooms something im deadly allergic to xD
mushroom roots turned into effecient industrial packaging products is a significant development towards making eco-friendly alternatives at a large scale.
There are still some vital problems with this solution:
-It's not as compressible as styrofoam, it's much weaker, it may not protect some heavier products as it was designed to do.
-It breaks down in less than a month, making storing items with it impossible and also making expected delays in shipment turn into certain product invalidation, this also makes the ideia of having a sale storage impossible (manufacturing will only begin after client purchase), making it a hard to predict business.
-It grows fast, but not nearly as fast as a machine can form a styrofoam mold, it will have to bring up many more advantages, because if it only sticks to "it's better for the environment" no one will buy it; because corporations don't care about the environment.
Unless it's only for food restaurants and once-upon-a-time deliveries with premium package (because you can bet it's not cheaper than styrofoam), then it will do well and find it's place. But finding it's place in the current packaging industry will be insanely hard.
@@alanwatts8239 the outcomes usually get better later, after initial application.
@@Richie016 I really hope it does, it looks promising.
Yeah, but this scale of production right now little to non-existantant compared to plastic manufacturing
@@muramasa870 Yes, Its passed the experimental stage and in comparison to plastics is fairly new.
First it was mushroom coffins, now mushroom packaging. I'm pretty sure that mushrooms are the answer to all of life's problems.
Mushroom party toys.
When life gives you mushrooms, solve your marriage with them
Mushroom has been conquer erath
Wait until you try the mushroom tip 🍄
Without them, the world as we know it would not exist. We would be swimming in dead plant matter, no soil, no nothing.
Anything putting a dent into the use of styrofoam, I am all for it. Hope the people running the business can upscale and succeed in making their packaging an industry standard within most products currently using the common styrofoam packaging.
There packaging only lasts 30 days before its broken down, this can never be used for shipping items on a boat, like what dell and all other tech companies do. hahahaha
Good idea but unusable until we start shipping everything by plane and even then its only usable on items sold within 30 days of being packed.
RIP
mostly likely there are specific conditions for decomposition that they can prevent when shipping
@@habib_the_panda why would we want to ship everything by plane may I ask? I know both planes and boats are harmful to the environment but how do we avoid it? Alternatives need to be made for those aswell.
@@habib_the_panda I doubt after 30 days it just collapses into dust...I would assume that's 30 days in a landfill, compost bin or "optimal environment". With use of desiccant pouches it can probably last indefinitely in shipping container or warehouse conditions
I think it’ll always stay at least 2-3 times more expensive than plastic which means it’ll never take off.
So basically these people made a solution to the styrofoam problem, made a [hopefully] profitable business, and made a Halal vegan bacon all at once??
It makes sense for the beacon if people don't mimd the change taste, structure, etc but as for styrofoam the economic definately goes against them. It wpuld probably cost 10-20x more than regular one
@@roxylius7550 I was thinking the same thing about the styrofoam price, but wouldn't be plausible after it becomes more common tho?
& I'll definitely try their MyBacon if I can find it near me
@@GeN56YoS it would be so far in the future that we weren't even using oil as our fuel anymore. Styrofoam is a derivative product of petroleum, meaning that as long as oil price remains relatively cheap as it's right now, so is styrofoam. It costs next to nothing to produce a sheet of styrofoam, probably several cents. Compare it to the effort and material used to procure wood dust, fungi spore, and set up suitable environment for the fungi, the number simply doesn't add up. But of course, for high value product like computer server or candle, people might be willing to spend that extra dollars. Not so for mass cheap consumer products though.
you forgot the vegan leather, and yeah, its freakin amazing, cant wait for them to go public
pretty much yeah
Eager to receive my packages on the mail and just toss them on the frying pan for some bacon.
Yes
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That's what I thought
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I mean I wouldn't go as far as to eat my own packaging even if it is edible per say but.......You do you.
I knew mycelium would finally get a good use, just didn't think it would be outside of Minecraft...
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You act like mycelium is usefull in minecraft aswell
Bruh mushrooms are barely useful in MC
Mycelium is one of the coolest blocks, especially for anti mod stuffs. This comment plucked the words right out of my mouth (:
@@squerlicious Hermitcraft turf war?
This is good. For anything "eco friendly" to become mainstream it must be either much cheaper than what it replaces or much better. If they keep the price down, they just might do that.
Yeah that's the point that caught my attention the most. The amount of cost-to-product they're getting from it, and their market price for the product will be the deciding factor. This is why people don't generally eat organic or buy eco-friendly products: Because they're usually substantially more expensive. Anywhere from 1.5-5x the cost depending on what product you are trying to get. If Organic food was half the cost, and eco friendly vehicles weren't a massive money sink, there would be no real argument against them (generally). But those problems haven't been solved yet, except here where we see people who understand that the cost will make or break their company.
@@MapleCakeTheLion all food is organic lol
I’m so glad that there are people like this that are willing to do this much to help the Earth
ikr imagine their effort
@@blockonblockonblockonblock Because its a very effective evolutionary adaptation for the survival of a species
@@blockonblockonblockonblock yeah, not everyone think the same as you, that's how.
@@blockonblockonblockonblock bruh how would u like it if everyone before you was like you, and the world was fucked
Not to help the Earth. To help us. Earth will survive and life may still germinate again, but we will be gone.
Q: What are you going to do with all that packaging?
A: “Bacon”
There are lots of vegans that would support the company
@humandxp yes climate change naturally happens, but not as this pace. We’ve changed the climate of earth that supposed to happen in thousands of years to just about 100 years.
Not every vegan is a terrorist, there are plenty of chill vegans out there, it's only the bad guys who get on the media because they draw attentions
@@ambienthangout so you choose the fake, chemically engineered meat. With fake fat, fake taste, and fake smell. Over the naturally genetically bred consumable meat?
What you gonna say? Saving space? Animal farm only need 1/4 than crops field (talking in industrial size)
And talking about industrial. Once a product goes popular. It just a matter of time before the industry heavily abuse it. Look at fast food chain. How much they add chems to a BUNS! Think, if they can abuse the buns that can be made 100% organic. How much chemical they can add to heavily modified food like vegan bacon?
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@@ambienthangout no I'm asking you. Because your 1st comment is nothing but gaslighting people to reply your comment
I've heard of cornstarch-based packaging, and I think these kinds of innovations are absolutely brilliant.
I mean, that's not even new. If you remove the cheese from cheese curls / Jax, you have corn starch packing peanuts. I believe those have already been used for a long time, but not as commonly as foam.
This was actually really interesting to watch and I feel like governments should be investing in these innovative companies to help tackle the growing waste problems
Yeah these companies won't employ their children. After the government benefits them why would they do it lol
If you need the government to invest, than it’s not a good company.
@@jamesbizs ??? i just cant wrap my mind around the logic of this comment
@@jamesbizs thats fuckin stupid. A lot of giant companies get government aid, that's an investment
the only thing the governments should "invest" in is military and national security
I’m not vegan, but anyway amazed by the inventive and transformation of the food technology in the last years. This is the way to go
@Tilde Aqium Yes I agree, I'm not against veganism, is a life choice. I in fact I work in straight contact with vegan food producers, one note though, lots of meat and animal fat isn't healthy, but also the popular conception that all vegan food is healthy is wrong. Lots of meat substitute have colorant and preservative that are quite bad, as with anything else, just need a bit of common sense. Take care!
Ditto. Not vegan here but if I can have bacon for 1/5 of the price, meaning I can have 5 times more bacon.... I'm in!!!
Vegan or not, in the end, price is king. If their projections are correct and their product could be up to five times cheaper, then the whole debate will be over.
Yeah i agree, these kind of technology have the potential to get even into 3rd world countries because of cheaper price
Morality is indeed subjective I can tell ya that much lol
It would be amazing if 5 years from now this becomes the meta just like the touchscreens in phones.
If some big companies would switch to that it would be a break through
It wont, it has many major flaws that need to be solved first.
@@DunkaDunka330 Such as?
@@VitaKet "There are still some vital problems with this solution:
-It's not as compressible as styrofoam, it's much weaker, it may not protect some heavier products as it was designed to do.
-It breaks down in less than a month, making storing items with it impossible and also making expected delays in shipment turn into certain product invalidation, this also makes the ideia of having a sale storage impossible (manufacturing will only begin after client purchase), making it a hard to predict business.
-It grows fast, but not nearly as fast as a machine can form a styrofoam mold, it will have to bring up many more advantages, because if it only sticks to "it's better for the environment" no one will buy it; because corporations don't care about the environment.
Unless it's only for food restaurants and once-upon-a-time deliveries with premium package (because you can bet it's not cheaper than styrofoam), then it will do well and find it's place. But finding it's place in the current packaging industry will be insanely hard." Alan Watts, in comment below.
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As somebody who takes hikes in forests with the almost exclusive purpose of looking at mushrooms, the idea of a mycelium-based future makes me incredibly happy
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Imagine if Starbucks or any coffee shop made their cups with used coffee grounds, coffee husks that are usually waste, and mycelium.
In this case there might be a far simpler solution: paper cups.
@@chemieju6305 Or even better: People could just bring their own cups.
That comment section forgets about one thing. Will it be cheaper or compareble cost to styrofoam. Without that, there is realy no point in deweloping this idea as styrofoam alternative.
@@Ciapa93 to really make a change there are three parties that have to work together: the people, the government and the industry. If people are willing to pay a few cents more for the environment, the government restricts the use of styrofoam and the industry provides alternatives like paper or mushroom we can do it.
@@vaderetro7530 People used to be able to do so. Starbucks halted people bringing their own cups due to Covid precautions. Maybe that'll change back in the future.
When I was a kid I would obsess over Campbell's mushroom cream soup, and I was fully convinced mushrooms would be the future of food.
Now I can say to younger me that he was a visionary.
@@r2dxhate can’t find it
WOW ALL THANKS TO YOU THANK YOU FOR COMING UP WITH THAT TRULY A GENIUS!
He hears you.
when i was at a distant cousin? forgot the spesifics, i had a huge ass juicy burger, fish and chips and some other stuff. Then i saw soup thing in a cup, i tried and HOLY SHIT that day made me love mushroom soup, everytime there is mushroom soup on a menu, i would instantly order it.
@@gilberteffenlie Same here, but so far nothing where I live can be called decent mushroom soup, plus I can't cook. Sad times all around
Brilliant, the numbers speaks for themselves. Just hope the taste is not too horrible, but instead of expecting realistic bacon flavor and texture, we could just see it as a new category.
Yes that's à better idea in My opinion
But actually NO ONE will tell the difference if the seasoning is good. Just think of some smoky flavour, lots of salt, and that's it. If combined with other food, like on a burger, you wont recognize the difference. 99% of meat just tastes like its seasoning.
@@captnzursee meat is Not only about taste, its about the texture and the juiciness of it, there's more factor to look like food than just taste
@@xale3658B good to see someone who understands that meat isn't just for taste
@cat snake owo a little bit rude
I love how during the entire 7 minute video, the company never claims that the bacon substitute tastes at all like bacon.
edit: war in comments lol
It's an alternative, not a substitute.
I noticed that lol 😂
They used the word "savory".. sooo idk, probably doesn't taste the same, but it probably also doesn't taste like styrofoam lol.
its all about seasoning ... just like tofu
About 90% of the flavor of bacon is smoke and salt, anyway.
I would believe this actually is a better tasting substitute that others. There are mushroom strands that taste like olives and lobster. This is an amazing idea especially since it grows extremely fast.
I don't think you can replace a mushroom for a lobster. Lobster has such a distinct taste
@@92suzukigsx1100g well it;s better as a replacement for meat than plants, mushrooms already taste alot like meat
@@92suzukigsx1100g better alternative for people who are allergic to shell fish
They also absorb other flavors!
Way superior since they can also be healthier, and quicker and cheaper to grow. And humane!
This is so awesome!! Also for anyone who's concerned: no the packaging won't biodegrade in the box while the product is on the shelf. It will degrade when it's exposed to moisture and sunlight and bacteria, things that shelf stable products are kept away from anyway.
Does the packaging go in the food waste bin?
@@YujiUedaFan Yes!
@@JohnPorsbjerg hmm I hadn't thought of that/assumed it was obvious, but now you mention it, what about mice & rats? It would be edible to them wouldn't it? Cockroaches etc too. That could cause some small problems & limits in it's use, not enough to impact it's potential right now, but long term there could be some settings where that's a problem, in particular farm related products that need to be stored in packaging on the farm for a period of time
@@mehere8038 very few things eat mycelium besides woodcutter ants. And if you have woodcutter ants in your warehouse you have bigger problems lol. Rodents don’t care for it any more than they do cardboard.
@@mehere8038 mice and rats would eat through thick concrete to reach something eatable.
If I’m going to eat a fake meat, I want it to have a really short ingredients list, not a huge list of chemicals. Mushrooms, seasonings. Yep, I’ll try that.
I'm sorry but you're just buying into bullshit. Everything is made of huge lists of chemicals.
Here's the detailed list of "chemicals" that constitute the ingredients of one all-natural chicken egg, no human intervention (apologies that it's in all capitals, but I'm not writing it all out by hand):
AQUA (75.8%), AMINO ACIDS (12.6%) (GLUTAMIC ACID (14%), ASPARTIC ACID (11%), VALINE (9%), ARGININE (8%), LEUCINE (8%), LYSINE (7%), SERINE (7%), PHENYLALANINE (6%), ALANINE (5%), ISOLEUCINE (5%), PROLINE (4%), TYROSINE (3%), THREONINE (3%), GLYCINE (3%), HISTIDINE (2%), METHIONINE (3%), CYSTINE (2%), TRYPTOPHAN (1%)); FATTY ACIDS (9.9%) (OCTADECENOIC ACID (45%), HEXADECANOIC ACID (32%), OCTADECANOIC ACID (12%), EICOSATETRAENOIC ACID (3%), EICOSENOIC ACID (2%), DOCOSANOIC ACID (1%), TETRACOSANOIC ACID (1%), OCTANOIC ACID (
@@RhodianColossus they meant added stuff. Everyone knows that eggs are harmless and healthy, but when you see chemicals without knowing how those chemicals may effect you or how good they are, that's a problem.
I get the point you're trying to make, but this doesn't work like that. Added chemicals are put in for texturing, flavoring, and color, eggs don't have added content for that. Last time I checked, chickens aren't putting in cancerous food dyes or artificial flavoring into their babys.
@@RhodianColossus What Sister Cats said. Also the point isn't just unhealthy additives, it's the production of those additives. When you have a product with 20 distinct ingredients you're bound to have more waste than when you have a product with 4 ingredients.
@@JohnPorsbjerg There's also the benefit in that you're _choosing_ what you like, in case the "large soulless corporation" is too damn stupid to follow the latest science, or know _why_ intelligent consumers would want to avoid certain things. (I say "large soulless corporation" because most corporations are essentailly "governmental, coercive decision-makers" now, but with "plausible deniability" added...) The fewer ingredients there are, the less you're mindlessly accepting some stupid person's decision about what constitutes proper diet. (Think about why corporations failed to switch from sugar to stevia for a good example of the "corporate lawyer" fear-governed mindset I'm criticizing here.)
For example: I want to avoid gluten, because I don't want gliadin in my brain, nor to burn out my mitochondria with high-GI carbohydrates. I avoid sugar for the prior mitochondria reason, and to avoid developing metabolic syndrome or type 2 diabetes. Nearly every single canned good or food product up and down several aisles of the grocery store is loaded with the prior, plus lots of "preservatives" that sometimes wind up in your liver or kidneys. There's a good reason to avoid nearly all of it.
This wouldn't be the case if the food items simply contained "just what's necessary." I don't care about the color: I care about living longer and healthier.
A long string of non-nutritive ingredients implies something about the lack of philosophy of the people creating those canned goods.
It's for this reason that I want people like Eben Bayer to become multi-billionaires. We need smarter industry, and we can't have that with people whose philosophy is limited by government schooling. (I say this in spite of his comment, that is aligned with Frederick the Great's "All true wealth comes from nature." ...Frederick II was a somewhat enlightened despot, in spite of his birthing the ruinous practice of government-run schooling. For example, he financed the building of giant greenhouses so Prussia could rear silk moths, to try to become independent from the Asian silk trade...)
@@RhodianColossus so if it's animal products you're saying it's okay for it to have chemicals but if it's plant based it's evil?
Seems like the food alternative part of the market will grow on it's own and that's fantastic. As for the polystyrene alternative, still some work to do but it's certainly something positive and definitely something more people should get behind. Not sure about that bacon alternative but I'd love to give it a try. The proof of the pudding etc.
“Grow on its own “ ;)
It always makes me feel much better about the world when i see people finally trying to make a difference look im not a vegan or someone actively trying to lower my waste but i try
It's honestly not on you man. The corporations are the ones stuffing the shelves with plastic and they're the ones that fund ad campaigns that make you feel bad about not recycling their plastic (which is funny cus only 5% of recyclable shit put in recycling bins is actually recycled).
Huge industries like the fishing industry or the lumber industry ruin the world because of their completely unnecessary, destructive practices, and then they have the balls to blame the average person lol
@@PinkBroBlueRope 15 years ago I remember reading in the news about how the trash/wast refuse company that services my home had made a huge profit recycling. The next day I noticed my trash bill had nearly doubled over night. I said to myself thats it I'm not wasting my time sorting trash only to make them rich by punishing me with higher trash fees.
Another one: (The electric car) when it first came out everyone was given a free deal to use the express lane for free if you bought an eco electric car. So lots of people bought it thinking they were going to use the express lane for free indefinitely. Nope, you guessed it... they discontinued the free express lane benefit before all the suckers that bought into the Oboma eco car scam had them paid off....
Now the new scam... Get solar put on your house for freeeeee! Yea right.... no thanks. I'm waiting to see where this scam pops up first. 👀.
Next: fake bacon!! 0h ! He'll no ! Are you people crazy? The human body is no programed to eat computer generated food. You people ate the perverable carrot waved in front of your noses by falling for the GMO ( scare scam ) only to be led into eating computer generated food like mushroom bacon. OMG people! Your all off your ever livin rockers! And you paid to learn this in college? Seriously? More homeless people with useless college degrees coming to America's shopping centers and neighborhoods near you.
@@PinkBroBlueRope Majorities of Corporation thst relies on cheap plastics is in China. Since a lot is made and available for cheap, businesses skew towards them.
Replacing the world supply with a alternative means robbing the money from cheap plastic, which they will hate.
@@stevethomas5209 solar energy isn’t a scam?? You definitely can’t run a house solely on solar panels, but there are people that live in RV’s and use solar panels to run a minifridge.
Another thing I’ve seen is people reusing water in their house, such as bathwater being stored and used in the toilet.
And the MyBacon isn’t computer generated? It’s mushroom that they just grow in a special environment. I want nothing to do with it because I never trust mushrooms, but it’s not bad for you, at least not any worse than bacon.
I know nothing about the recycling, nor ecocars. Where I am, you are charged for having “too much garbage”, and ecocars are too expensive for the average person.
But lets not act like everything is a conspiracy or scam.
@@stevethomas5209 mushrooms are not computer generated lol. Thats like saying you don't eat anything but raw ingredients that have never been mixed with other ingredients.
Humans are pretty much walking talking mushroom bacteria, I recommend taking a biology class
i just wanna eat those mushroom hunks solid idk why
It looks kinda squishy
me too but something tells me i would just die of fungal infection
Do it
Right?
Same
This makes me feel more positive about my choice to become a mushroom farmer after my current career dries up.
I can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic or not
What is your current career if you don't mind me asking
Keep up
@@92suzukigsx1100g she works at a Styrofoam factory, obviously
Depends how corona sensitive your current career is. It can be super sensitive like Gym trainer or hospitality or non-sensitive like programmers or artist
Mushroom bacon is usually made with oyster mushrooms. It definitely mimics the crispy texture of bacon and can taste pretty good too!
Shitake mushrooms is what I use. I was amazed how, if fried properly, are better tasting than bacon.
@@Akindone53 yes. Shiitake is a far better umami meatier option. Oyster mushrooms are amazing for making po'boys, since they actually taste like oysters.
There's no such thing as mushroom bacon it's simply fried mushrooms prepared different
I don't understand how "mushroom" could be "bacon". It's still fried mushroom.
@@Akindone53 i doubt it tastes better
Sometimes products sit in boxes for a long time. I wonder how long this mycelium packaging lasts before it starts degrading. Very intriguing and encouraging.
Im pretty sure its already dead by the time it gets there. When mushrooms due it doesnt loose its shape. It will stay the same dead or not
30 days
@@ArtR.cover2000 you know that mushrooms rot, right?
With our science now, they can just probably extend its life by adding some harmless chemicals or bio-engineering the mushroom itself.
Yeah that's a good point. Suppose it could be treated for long term use?
“Tastes pretty amazing too”
“We can’t confirm the flavor”
Daaaaang. Business Insider has some ruthless people.
If you are going to quote, quote correctly. 👎
They haven't tasted it. That's why they can't confirm anything regarding taste. Not too difficult.
Sam Chiu 4:18 also it’s obviously joke, lighten tf up.
@@user9b2 Jeezus chill 😂😂😂
Duh, what they mean is that they can't confirm that it would conform to the exact flavor of bacon. However, it tastes amazing. So it doesn't mean that they haven't tasted it, as you seem to imply.
I have seen plenty of variations of this video pop up over the past 10 years and never go beyond this stage.
And I don't know what to make of that.
The fact that it's not just a lab, but they actually already have customers for their packaging does imply it should start spreading, though.
@@darksunrise957 not far though, month degrade limit and 10+ days for production make it really commercially unusable anywhere where styrofoam is used.
Mushrooms were hated and Ostracized for the longest time, 10 years ago was probably the point at which the research started picking up pace, Both for New inventors and current ones. Research on Mushrooms was strictly controlled as well.
@@stanjockson That's literally right now..... Simply means they need to find ways at growing it faster that doesn't contaminate us or the earth. Mushrooms research for the most part was Strictly controlled so they aren't that far into it yet.
@@hailothgaming bro im gonna need an explanation on restrictions on mushroom research outside of psychedelics
I've heard a lot of tripping stories, and they are very exciting,I would love to try magic mushrooms but I can't easily get some, Is there any realiable source I can purchase from??
came across the comments about young_spores and I must say he is a genius.
On Insta
@@jasongary8326 I have heard about him. Is he really legit?
The Trips I've been having have really helped me a lot,I finally feel in control of my emotions and my future and things that used to be mundane to me now seem incredible and full of nuance on top of that I'm way less driven by my ego and I have alot more empathy as well
@@jasongary8326 Does he ship to UK?
damnn they send you a package and a free snack at the same time.
It makes me really happy to see efforts like this really trying to make what we do, sustainable. I just hope we're able to turn things around fast enough before things are truly irreversible
dnt let people scare u.
things are never irreversible. Thats why humans made it this far.
not that we shouldnt work for improvement now... but were pretty fkin good at problem solving
although generally only put in the effort when its do or die or theres money on the line
Not even considering the environment, I am all for doing all we can to end Styrofoam's evil, squeaky reign! Like nails on a chalkboard.
I concur. I can't stand even touching Styrofoam.
Oh I hate that sound so much
@@broodingstone958 same 😂
You meant to say BESIDES considering the environment.
i know for a fact that mushroom bacon will never taste the same as regular bacon. But that being said, i love the taste of fried mushrooms and can't wait for this product to become more widespread
it taste better! because nobody's killing innocent beings for them!
@@thejoshiclesofjoshua8372 that makes no sense lol death doesn't affect taste your not a hero for being vegan
Its not bacon.
@@thejoshiclesofjoshua8372 Stop lying
@@ElmugreTV not lying!
Not at that production rate, but this is freaking amazing
@@benisrood Still takes a week to grow any of your packaging though, compared to styrofoam which takes around an hour to have a finished product. That's a logistical headache for any company that they don't need, especially when 'just there for a paycheck' dingus lets our stock run low and we need more the next day. Can't see it catching on with that cure time, as cool as it is.
@@boogusnutsack5926 I suppose if enough is made in advance if the companies have a relationship and know what to do that might speed the cycle up
@@skitz0299 Well as with most manufacturing, product usually sits in warehouses, ports or at wholesale distributors for months to years waiting to be requested. Samsung for example don't manufacture and package your television to order and this packaging is going to start to rot after 30 days sitting on the docks lol. It's completely unfeasible.
There is nothing wrong as it stands anyway with wood/paper pulp pressed (biodegradable in 1 year) packaging that most companies are starting to use now.
The other big problem not addressed in this video is the molds. They try to play it off with the whole " this plastic is recyclable so we can reuse it and make another mold ". What they didn't mention is the fact that for every single piece of packaging you need an individual mold. Just for 1 type of 27" television which the company produces 12 million units of per year, you will need 1 million 27" television molds, because the process has to occupy that mold for a full 7-10 days. Current pressing or injection molding uses a SINGLE mold for a millisecond before the molded packaging is ejected and another is made in the exact same mold.
In short if this was to become the normal thing then they would have to purchase and store BILLIONS of plastic molds because we produce 100's of billions of packaged products every year (can't find an exact figure but 380 Million Tonnes of plastic packaging). They would essentially be creating far more pollution then they would ever solve using this method of mold creation. In reality taking wood or paper pulp which is their starting material but simply grinding it down smaller and more fibrous then using tonnage to pressfit it into a mold takes a literal second to do, uses one mold, has more durability and takes less than 1 year to biodegrade in soil.
it's a cool science experiment, but in terms or feasibility it has none when other ways are already existing that aren't so ludicrous. Small indi food trucks and that sort of thing that cater to 100 customers at lunch time could use it fine. Anything larger and it becomes a nightmare for both parties sadly.
Research/discoveries like this is where gov't subsidies SHOULD go!
Wholeheartedly agree 💚🌎🌏🌍
Personally no government dollars to any product period. Allow the market back good ideas. Not subsidized products
@@zack9912000 but it’s not profitable enough, thus the market will put it in the valley of death.... you don’t understand how many great products have been killed off for being unprofitable.... search up the light bulb conspiracy.... yeah I sound like a nut but it’s interesting
@@teteteteta2548 Then it's not time for it then.
@@zack9912000 It could be, using an initial research fund. The fact is science pays, a lot, just not in direct enough ways for most companies to fund it.
1:01 that scale lit af
It's not a scale, it's a shaker tubes and plates
@@dbluewh that shaker lit af
I feel like most people don’t realize how amazing this is becuase they don’t realized just how small most mycelium is, it’s basically microscopic and can be so dense that one table spoon of it can be stretched out for a around a couple miles, so not only is this stuff light it should be pretty dense too
That's increadible. I hope it will be on the shelf over the world in the next years.
Imagine if these eco-friendly products were massively produced back in 70's....... 🤔🤔
Too smart too late. Now the earth is getting trashed up and now they are worried. Should have thought ahead a long time ago. It's sad.
No way! Better late than never. Giving up and giving in is not the way to go
@@feeshac1974 true
@@sarahrichmond7077 well let's start while we still can, better now than never and hope that people don't be "the world is dying anyways let's set everything on fire"
The only way the earth will be safe is if governments get the authority to ration and thus control the amount of energy every human being can use.
Oh wow thats very interesting! Mushrooms could be widely used, so versatile
I wonder how many... Mushrooms it took to come up with the idea.
How did they get the mycyllium to grow into the air? What kind of fungus are they using?
I wish those guys best of luck. Absolutely amazing business idea
I'm studying zoology and we've just covered fungi. It's really caught my attention, and this has only given me more hope for future sustainability by using this amazing resource.
Most importantly, the processes to make this seem super easy to automate because it's literally just "mix wood chips, water and spores -> dump into molds -> put into storage for a week -> bake to kill the mycelium -> release finished product."
You forgot the seasoning!!!
it would actually be better in an automated system because you could scale up production even more because everything could be sealed and you wouldn't have to follow decontamination procedures to prevent other fungi/bacteria from taking over the growth medium.
@@Theinatoriinator good point re automation Krawurxua & yeh, exactly Logan, much more efficient if all done by machines in clean rooms! Much more reliable too, no contaminated batches
Is there a process to remove allergens from the shipping packaging? With the mybacon, are the fat claims based on the pre-cooked state of the products, or are they comparing the cooked oil saturated mushroom to the rendered and drained pork bacon?
Styrofoam is like nails on a chalkboard to me so, I'LL TAKE THIS!!
Finally someone else who feels the same way about styrofoam as I do!
@@chelseagirl278 Just thinking about the sound right now is making my mouth water as well as my eyes 🤣🤣
@@Swnsasy I always shred foam and let all the particles blow away, that is how we dispose of foam.
@@insectbite1714 is someone going to tell them 👀
INSECT BITE *-* That’s a terrible way to dispose of styrofoam. You should recycle it. You’re damaging the environment.
Here in Germany we would loooove this bacon! and the market for meat alternatives is huge and already well established. keep my figers crossed for this company. this is our future, hope near one
I can't wait to try it! I already love to eat regular mushrooms. This should be amazing!
Or. You know. Eat real bacon
No such thing as vegan bacon it's mentaI iIIness
Innovative solutions to cure hunger and diseases. Again, if the motive is not greed the possibilities are endless.
- Truth
There's almost no calories in Mushrooms, this probably won't help any hungry people
Innovation is the result of greed
@@waterbottlewaterbottle1754 Then we add calories into the mushroom.
If you add stuff to the mushrooms wont it be GMO and thus more people would be against it
@@jacobwhitehurst4983 I mean, every current cultivated veggies and fruit on the supermarkets are GMOs with added nutrition. So the outrage towards this innovation are pretty baseless I'd say
One of the companies I regularly buy my supplies from, has been using potatoe starch "peanuts" in their packaging instead of styrofoam for close to thirty years. I throw it in with compost, and it also dissolves in an instant with little water.
The way he just plops that mushroom on the table looks so satisfying.
We need more videos about this type of things
Check out another video on this channel about flip flops that are made from algea and not plastic. It was an interesting video.
True
If this is what they say it is, then the future is looking better now.
@Solve Everything hahahahhaha
@Solve Everything found one....
@Solve Everything no, prions exist.
Then they later put shits in it , and you eat this as well . Grow your self - only opsion !
Vegan bacon? Nah it's just sliced mushrooms.
Why do vegans insist on calling foodstuffs names they would never eat?
I have a question, let's say that this packaging ends up in nature, aren't we going to have myseulium spores everywhere and wouldn't it be harmful for local species?
That is a very interesting question. It probably has an answer, this video didnt cover it tho. Anyways, plastics are harmful for local species as well na
Hmmm
I believe the mycelium trays bake off in the over the stop growth and to harden the structure
Mycelium and spores are literally everywhere in our world, including on you. They don't take off because of environmental conditions and humidity. Exactly why we don't have trillions of house flies flying around in the usa - nature keeps balance!
We stop the styrofoam problem and in turn cause The Last of Us to happen for real
I love mycology. There’s so much potential in fungus and its many unique properties.
It scares me with its capability to get into the brain of animals or be paractic, its tiny spores being a menace, just hope they dont lab up something meant to destroy waste that starts to destroy more
@@magnem1043 If it happens it happens tbh, either we find a way to reverse all the harm humans caused to our home or our home finally find a way to get rid of us. Already have to deal with mold which can make humans very sick, which has no research at all and is just a natural occurrence in humid/wet homes.
There is always the desert where fungus does poorly. @@magnem1043
I like meat, though I have been cutting back lately, and this sounds amazing. And the degradable styrofoam too.
I'd love to buy stock in a company like this.
You're really not the only one. Probably because it's fairly easy these days to just eat a veggie burger from the supermarket or something like that. I sure ate meat (or occasionally fish) everyday 10 years ago.
Absolutly love it! Thanks to all of you!
who would dislike this video/idea? it's all literally positive
@@SeedTech why? I’m genuinely curious. Is there some cancel culture drama thing?
@@oscarandria Republicans being snowflakes again 🤷♂️
No, to meat eaters they are being replaced
@@jaxstax2406 lol. That’s so cringe
must be people from styrofoam company
This is great, a cheap alternative to leather and all, but when bigger brands start asking for this, all the sake of being "cheaper" will just go to waste
Ofc by the demand rising the price follow- unless there's more producer of the product
Really cool that this isn't far from where we live
we? girl we live together? where?
@@jintie she talking about her family just be a lil' bit smarter girl
@@isaacadkins2344 Ironic. Heard of sarcasm?
Please go buy the bacon substitute and report back to us :D It probably doesn't taste anything like bacon, but I'm curious how good it taste!
So do more than a cool start eating and using
I WANT TO EAT THE STYROFOAM
Love the more recent innovations with mushrooms. They truly are magical.
The mycelium resistance is expanding after winning the turf war ;)
ItS AbOuT ThE pRiNcIpLE
A fellow cultured Hermitcraft viewer. :)
Yassss
Finally the comment I've been looking for
I could kiss u right now
The only people who would dislike this are the people who sell styrofoam
Absolutely brilliant.
Our company have started to move to the mycelium packaging... its interesting. :)
I wonder how many styrofoam noodle cups are used a year?
This is why I refuse to eat out of noodles cups and I only eat Top Ramen made just a few miles away from my home.
We have to support this products for the future...it's amazing, hopefully it will be exported too.
These videos and these companies give hope for a better future and confirm the fact that good people exist !
30 years from now eating styrofoam on my floaing couch with an air based energy drink.... sounds about right
id like to imagine the future is y2k futurism
@@GREG_Khar-NÜ-Metalhead2000 that would be so epic
lol well they do have oxygen bars an vitamin infusion clinics so you're not far off lol
so cool to see all of my friends and their hard work featured so prominently
Amazing, I love the This Isn't Bacon brand but that bacon looks even better, especially if they smoked it or something to get that bacon flavour
ok for the styrofoam, but the other thing really does not look like bacon at all.
I love seeing people creating solutions for the problems we as humans create. I hope one day I too create something that can help the environment if only in a small amount
when they said mycelia it made me think of satisfactory since that is one of the materials you use in that game to make cloth and filters and such
Heh... Imagine buying a PC and then eating its packaging LMAO
That would be... pretty gross.
Eh, I don’t think so. They would likely put in additives that would be meant to make the styrofoam more hardy but incidentally also make the mushroom-based styrofoam less tasty if not downright toxic.
Imagine the Unboxing youtube chanels
Well just trough up in to you jarden and you plants gonna be fertilizer
that'd be insanely cool, even ignoring the sustainability/eco-friendliness.
People devoting their lives to discover sustainable alternatives are modern day heroes.
I agree, Piglet. Perhaps we make love?
Seems to be quite a good option when assessing possible decomposable packing and shipping industry standard replacements.
Ngl if I purchase something with mycelium packaging I would buy more from that company, even if the postal fee would be a little higher
This actually gives me hope 🙂
Humans wouldn’t be here if it weren’t for the all-mighty fungi. ✊❤️🍄
I am all for eco alternatives if they perform well and are priced competitively. This is very promising. I would try the fake bacon but wouldn't give up the real thing.
"Joined 14 years ago" Um how long have you been on UA-cam?
@@insectbite1714 A long time. I was in the early Gmail beta when you needed an invite. Been around awhile.
@@boowiebear OH now I know why UA-cam was so unpopular when first made, I always wondered that. It used to require an INVITE to go on UA-cam. Well eco friendly things are needed in life too and I hope there is more UA-cam content about it.
@@insectbite1714 UA-cam was not made by Google. Google bought it. When Gmail first came out that was really the only thing the Google account was for from what I remember. Then other products they bought or made like youtube got rolled into that account.
Now to understand why UA-cam was created, we have to go back to the 2004 Super Bowl....
How would you know? And seeing how slow shit changes in the world we'll all probably still be able to eat bacon in 100 years. The point is that it'll be once a year instead of once a day.
Im sadly extremely allergic to a lot of mushrooms and molds but this is really cool.
People are usually allergic to pollen and spores. Mycellum is the roots of the fungi and it gets heated so I doubt it will cause you problems
@@enricod.7198 i get extreme headaches and nausea from eating most shrooms so i just dont anymore
@@Jzwiz well you came to the right person
@@Jzwiz I'm fine with mushrooms, but not with added flavours, so for allergy reasons I was thinking the "bacon" is out of the question for me too. Would you be ok with it as packaging? Remembering it's cooked before it's considered finished, so no spores or anything coming off it. If you're not ok even with that, dam that's going to be a problem for you in the future!!!!!!!!! (if this goes ahead & takes a significant percentage of packaging)
I am also very allergic, even a touch of mushrooms on my skin can cause red splotches.
This is so incredible, I don't even have words.
We live in Niskayuna and been in the Cap district since forever and VERY VERY proud to see local company with revolutionary approach!!!!!!😄😄😃😃
This is brilliant. I really hope this catches on, it seems like the perfect alternative
Friend: “Kinda hungry, what are you in the mood for?”
Me: “Idk, I’m thinking of ordering some candles.”
I'm throwing a dinner party so let's order a TV.
Yes yes yes to mushroom plastic, styrofoam and leather alternatives. Currently in my Etsy shop I do use biodegradable popcorn packaging but for my candles I would switch and support mushrooms!!! MUSHROOMS 🍄 are the answer to so many human issues!! You can live off of mushrooms, micro greens and clean water. THANK YOU GREAT JOB👏👏💖💖🍄🍄
What did I just read
This is mind blowing.
The world is in dire need of these innovations. I hope the government is doing whatever it can to help mass produce these.
30 days isn't enough time for most shipping. Goods often sit around on store shelves or warehouses for a long time before they are shipped. Also wondering about water resistance. What happens if the packaging gets wet or humid?
When it gets wet is when it starts breaking down. In a regular warehouse, this packaging won't just suddenly rot or break apart. However, if thrown in a landfill where it gets rain and sun on it, then it starts to decompose. Cardboard breaks down in less than 3 months under similar conditions, just is used worldwide in shipping for the same reasons.
o the packaging won't biodegrade in the box while the product is on the shelf. It will degrade when it's exposed to moisture and sunlight and bacteria, things that shelf stable products are kept away from anyway.
It doesn't matter how much or how many meat substitutes we find, People are never gonna give up on meat.
Facts
Not true
The majority of us will not have a choice, in the future real meat will only be available to the ruling class.
@@boataxe4605 I will take “fake” meat over dead animals
@@boataxe4605 nobody is forcing you to be vegan and that'll likely never happen in your lifetime. Quit making up improbable shit.
Packaging is imho already solved with paper/cellulose/starch based solutions.
Im more interested in substitutes to more hidden use cases for plastics, like the insulation of mains cables in walls (often PVC), or resins for composites like in PCB's.
The food aspect is very intersting though, but without the possibility to try the product there is no way to tell.
I think you would want those cables to be oldschool PVC, because they dont degrade over time. Which you really do not want.
Good point. But if they can build a successful business model on packaging, then that's good news for the R&D funding to investigate anything else you can imagine. Plus it can't hurt to diversify our approaches to packaging.
If this doesn’t become mainstream, we aren’t worthy of surviving as a species
It is God that determines whether we are worthy
“The key of this is mycelium”
Minecrafters: Mycelium? I thought they were useless.
it is also used to remove end portal frames which has a multitude of uses
@@moonshot9056 means nothing, bruh.
Excited to see this grow, sick of styrofoam’s immortal effluence
“30 days to break down” if anyone has ever made a stock order from dell you know you’ll be waiting 2+ months, so Dell must only be doing it express shipping single items, i am not ordering from a company thats uses packaging that will breakdown before the stock i need to sell gets to me, it would literally be an e waste disaster.
Everything has its limitations.