History of the Takeda Clan
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- The History of the Takeda family, from their rise to their fall.
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5:33 Uesugi Zenshu*
Beautiful video, I expect Tokugawa, Mori and other clans videos.
@The Shogunate WHAT?! DISHONOR! Dishonor on you! Dishonor on your Cow!
Joking aside. Great Video man.. it's real shame they got wiped out. They(Takeda)'re my second favourite Clan.
Outstanding !!!
You have a very good voice for narration, and also in some way, wistful and reminiscent of the what we may perceive to be the manner of the way the bushi spoke in their verbally comportment of themselves !
Motto motto motto tsukute chodai !
Can't wait for samurai clans that are still around, like the Date. How will you handle or manage to investigate their current status? Like if they're sportsmen, have companies of their own or subsist based on land that they still own?
@@DavidMyrmidon same, the first clan is the Oda clan, i really love the story about Nobunaga and how his rise to become the most powerful daimyo of the Sengoku Jidai
Men with discrimination will be viewed as schemers; second, men with deep far-sightedness will be seen as cowards; and third, men with rough behaviour will be mistaken for real warriors. These are great errors.
--Takeda Shingen
Ironic that his son would commit all of the above.
@@kaptenlemper Katsuyori? Only the 3rd statement fits him
Where is this from? Are there any writings or works of Shingen Takeda?
@@kaptenlemper he clearly wasn't ready to lead a clan just like most children were back then
@@The_Dodge_Meister 27 years old is not considered a "child" in normal universes
Three distinct periods in the history of the Takeda clan.
1) No horses.
2) haha horses go fast
3) haha gun go boom
Friend I think you erred on point number 3, as EVERYBODY knows
that actually guns go
BOOM BOOM
(how else are guns made?)
They failed to adapt to guns
@@huanquocmanh416 I think the Palisades had more of a role than their guns, but that's more of time and place.
I snort laughed. Thank you.
@@huanquocmanh416 they failed to adapt to guns because Shingen had no proper access to major ports and could not trade with Western merchants. Only an idiot would have charged against palisade and guns. If Shingen were alive Nobunaga wouldn't have breezed to unification
I'm a descendant of a samurai clan who served Takeda clan. Thank you for great video.
@Paper Plane good for you Hhahahh☺☺☺
I'm the same.
My Family the Ogasawara was said to come from the same ancestor as the Takeda, my line was in Minobu south of Kai before moving to Hawaii. I visited the family graveyard and there was both Takeda and Ogasawara buried there. I was told family was on both sides Toyotomi and Takeda, we lost Matsumoto Castle soon after Tokugawa came to power. Note the family mon is Matsu or Pine 3 diamonds
Does anyone in your family have any swords from them? I am hoping you say yes.
I'm a descendent of Yahweh.
A clan dynasty that survived this long even today deserves some praise 🙌.
Well, Takeda Pharmaceutical is still alive and kicking today.
@@rudolfschrenk6171 shingen would have appreciated that existing earlier
@@guardiadecivil6777 ahahahah yeah poor shingen
My family is from Kofu! When I would go visit I would see the giant Shingen Statue!
Does that statue come alive at 3 o'clock in the morning?
Some of my mother’s side of the family came from Echigo. Maybe they were fighting. Lol.
@@Alexei2539 loool inb4 a sengoku style youtube comment section clan war starts
Takeda is my favourite clan of Sengoku Jidai. I first learned about them through playing the original Samurai Warriors game and they've stuck with me ever since then. From the wise Shingen, to his generals like Masakage Yamagata, Masanobu Kosaka, to his brothers, Nobushige & Nobukado Takeda to his sons in Katsuyori and Yoshinobu.
Takeda was an all around very interesting clan of Sengoku Jidai. Add their legendary cavalry and unique persona's their battles witht he Uesugi{Who are my second favourite clan of SJ} and their brief expansion before their initial downfall. They are a clan whose to be highly respected despite having their rough downfall, but at one point they came close to ruiling Japan and I know if they did conquer it back then, Japan would be a very different place than it is today. So in saying that, I'm glad *The Shogunate* is doing a video on them and shining some limelight in their history.
The unmovable mountains, The Takedas. My favorite clan. I always choose them for some reason in games set in Sengoku period. I think it all due to the Kurosawa movie "Kagemusha". I think Shingen Takeda himself is a Sinophile, as he was an expert in Chinese poetry and really loved reading Sun Tzu art of war, even his famous red oni looking helmet with the white hair was imported from rare Yak hair from the "Mainland". Funny how I got this info from the videogame Nioh as you can receive Shingens helmet in the game with the description where the white hair came from.
I remember someone mentioned that the Takeda clan might have been destroyed, but their descendant still survived probably thanks to Tokugawa Ieyasu who protected majority of the Takedas. Think one of them now work as a Political commentator.
@Warren Shredder!! haha kinda ironic as historically they were destroyed by firearms. Another lost gem that is now abandonware and probably hard to find is "Takeda", think there are 3 series made of it by Magitech they had a pretty good theme song ua-cam.com/video/UtZe3PtyO1A/v-deo.html
@Warren Shredder!! Haha to be honest, Nioh 2 seems like a disappointment the way they put the storyline wise. I would have preferred they focus on the Shimabara Rebellion with William Adam further adventure. Maybe William Adam have a longevity life and we see him living long life in Japan to see the Samurai culture end up to the Black Ships.
Still credits to Nioh and Koei Tecmo, as they always research their history well. Alot of the samurai armor in the Nioh game are really based on the historical samurai armors to the point. For example Tachibana armor is exact like the historical one. Also they mention small tidbit info about the armor, Like Ieyasu changed into a small hat in his Osaka campaign due to old age. The only inaccurate portrayals are the weapons. Although majority of the sword do exist, including the 5 National Treasure of Japan swords.
I played them cause of the color red still though there badass
The motto of the Takeda clan derived from Sun Tzu's Art of War, scroll 7, that said: 其疾如風, 其徐如林, 侵掠如火, 不動如山.
You read my mind!!
This is one of things I had always wanted to ask you!
Biographies of important people or clans, their history.
This is brilliant!
Keep it up Nick!
Just wanted to take the time and say THANK YOU SO MUCH for making these videos and keeping them organized! Whoever is behind The Shogunate is doing Japan and the whole world a great service 🙏
I've been hoping for this for so long, I'm a total novice regarding Japanese feudal history and this is just perfect. Thank you for creating this.
I'm super happy I found this channel. You deserve way more subscribers! Samurai history is totally fascinating.
This is an interesting series! You should keep doing History videos of each samurai clan.
Another great video of another great clan in the Takeda.
Ever since the release of Ghost of Tsushima, I keep coming back to your channel to learn more about the history of feudal japan and all the clans, particularly their emblem. Thanks Shogunate. I love the modern look even though it was made centuries ago. My favourites are the Takeda and Oda.
Your channel is really fantastic, thank you very much sincerely for your dedication and excellent content, much appreciated! All the best from France
You should also talk about those clans that are still relevant today, such as the Honda, these connections are extremely interesting.
Excited for the new series!
"A mountain doesn't move.." - Takeda Shingen's doppleganger, from "Kagemusha"
Thanks for making this my dude. This is one of my favorite Clans from the sengoku jidai period, so seeing an in depth video dedicated to them is awesome.
I was hoping for a video about the Takeda clan. Even though they perished in the Sengoku Jidai, they're still my favorite clan. Thanks for making this video dude, you're awesome!
I think they got the m ost tragic end but I think it makes the story even more awsome
@@goodcomrade2949 Especially since the last lord of the clan committed seppuko, along with his wife and child. I felt so sorry for them for having that kind of end.
@@PhantomRaider100 Yes that one charge that killed it all. It also shows an honorble charge would work in fantasy but never in real life in real life only the smart can win
The takeda clan actually exists today still. Takeda Shingen’s fifth son, Nishina Morinobu’s sons survived the era and their family continued all the way till now. A branch of the family also survived in Kazusa. So ya, the Takeda are alive and well today, although they’re probably just living normal lives like the rest of society lol.
@@kittykattzee Oh wow, that's really cool to know! Awesome, thanks for the info!
Great job! This helped me understand the backstory to the film Kagemusha.
Another idea for a series, would be the history of the different prefectures. You could include clans, climate, geography, resources and industry, and what the region is known for. It'll give people a better idea of the differences in regions. Especially since Japan has quite a variety how different climates and geographic features.
I like this idea! 👍
And You Should do The Takeda's Rival Clan the Uesugi Next.
"The lord is that mountain. Both in battle and at home, he is steadfast, like a mountain. When his army advances, first the horsemen attack, swift as the wind. Second, the lancers raise a forest of spears, advancing with silent resolve. Third, more horsemen engulf the enemy ranks, as mercilessly as fire. And the lord is always behind them, watching over them, immovable as a mountain. That is why our army, from general to foot soldier, can fight so resolutely... Immovable as a mountain. The lord is that mountain."
Kagemusha
Awesome
Fun fact, the Takeda Clan maintained and popularized the art of Daito Ryu Akijujitsu, the father of Aikido and Hapkido.
I wonder if they will cover the relation between takeda clan and takeda family daito-ryu someday... That would be amazing though...
Cannot wait for Date and Oda clan histories :)
Will there be a separate video about Ikko-Ikki? They definitely are not a clan, but also were a major power at those times
Yes!
@@TheShogunate Hurrah! All hail The Shogunate!
My favourite faction !
You mean Ishiyama Hongan-ji?
@@ishi-b6wYes, mostly
this was great mate. I loved how you also talked about the minor branches of the family also. loved it as usual.
My grandma was a Takeda. You know more about my family than I do. That’s pretty cool.
I'd love to see a video about Yamamoto Kansuke, one of Shingen's trusted generals
You deserve a lot more attention your content is good and you explain everything really good looking forward to more I came across this channel not to long ago
Really excited for this new series! I think an episode on the Uesugi would be really interesting as I find the history of the clan during the late Muromachi and early Sengoku periods to be a really fascinating yet often overlooked topic. It also provides some more context for the later expansion of both the Nagao and Hojo clans.
THE HORSEMEN OF WAR HAVE RETURNED PRAISED THE HERO AND LEGEND SHINGEN
I'm so loving this channel! The work on here has just gotten better and better!
And then I happen to come back to UA-cam after a couple days away only to see this video uploaded! And it is of one of my all time favourite clans!
Thank you for this work, The Shogunate. I'm looking forward to the Shimazh and Date histories...!
I love this, keep on doing these videos on individual samurai clans. I've been wanting something like this for a very long time
Can you cover the Shimazu next? I always wanted to know more of those western conquerors who nearly captured all of Kyushu.
Ur wish is granted
I’ve always been fascinated by Japanese history, my grandfather fought on Okinawa, I always had a deep respect for the history of Japanese people
Aaaand I found my new fav channel for the next 2months
never knew Windows OS originated from Japan, thanks for clearing this
Ugghhhh. The feels when that Sphere of influence OST kicks in. SOI doesnt get enough credit man.
My favourite clan! When I was a kid I loved the story of their success. When I first saw Akira Kurosawa's 'Kagemusha' I was in tears - I still curse when I hear Katsuyori's name, he was a fool at times.
I think Katsuyori gets too much flak he had a lot to live up to and not to mention that battle was less the ideal for him he was a capable general who had won victories he just had the pressure of living up to his father’s name and he needed a great win to secure loyalty it just sucked he went against Nobunaga.
@@alfredkingofwessex This is true, though in hindsight, looking at the situation it makes you wonder what was he thinking charging the Oda/Tokugawa firing lines as he did. It was such a one sided battle, and more to the point, such a waste of men for the Takeda.
@@PortbyhanMan true but the triple volley musket firing was a new concept that Katsuyori had never seen before the Takeda cavalry had run down muskets before he assumed it would be able to again Nobunaga changed the way wars where fought in Japan then Katsuyori was on the short end of the stick unfortunately.
The Demon calvary of Kai
Really awesome
I'd love for you to do the history of the Shimazu clan of Satsuma
My favorite clan
Love this bro! I am excited to see more of these!
Just stumbled upon your channel, you’re reigniting a lot of curiosity and awe I had of samurai and their ideals. I appreciate the work you do, keep it up 💪🏽
Great video! I can't wait for the other clan history videos.
Best Clan. Great vid!
Keep up the great educational videos! I'm learning a lot from your channnel! Thanks man!
Excellent video, so glad to see a series focused on the clans, as opposed to the events.
This is a great video. I can’t wait to see more videos on different clans.
Love the format! Keep on with it!
Man I can't wait to see the next episode of the sengoku jidai and finish it you are my history teacher ❤
Excellent information!!! Now I know the history of both branch of Takeda.
Who would win:
>the living avatar of Bishamonten, the god of war
>one horsey boi
The Tiger of Kai is my favourite historical figure of Japan. I was pretty hyped for Nioh 2 as the game might show Shingen as baddass as he is. Too bad he was showed as an oversized revenant :(
That was most informative. Sorry I missed a few, will be catching up!
Sorry but let me correct a misunderstanding for your sake. It's not true that Takeda's four diamonds represent wind, forest, fire, and mountain though Shingen Takeda made his famous battle flag with these four words. Actually, Takeda Bishi was invented more than 100 years before Shingen picked up these four words he liked for his flag.
Funny how today I picked up For Honor and made a Takeda emblem
13:50 "...injury or illness"
According to the Buke Jiki (among other sources), Shingen had tuberculosis and suffered effects for several years. The Takeda army was actually assembled in Suruga and Shinano, and had just defeated the advance force of Ieyasu and prepared to march on Nagoya when Shingen suffered another attack, and died. The rumours about him being wounded were (at least according to local historians in Yamanashi) invented by Hideyoshi, to make it sound like he had been "defeated"
I really wish they made a taiga about the last few generations of the Takeda. Both Furin Kazan and the Shingen taiga end too early and don't show the decline. Poor Katsuyori is lucky when he gets a bit of screentime in Nobunaga-centric stuff.
a lot of historians always talk about nobunaga and his genius and im not saying its not warranted but imho Shingen was the biggest and baddest of them all. He took a clan in a terrible province (kai) and turned them into a absolute powerhouse economically (which is the biggest deal considering how poor kai was) and militarily. the race for shinano was a perfect example of how close he managed his affairs, as the clan was on the verge of economic collapse the whole time, and i cant help but wonder if he had forced his way into the kanto how it would have turned out.
and before all of you kenshin fans go "well he couldnt beat kenshin" look at the difference in their holdings, Echigo was a top 3 richest province in japan especially agriculturally, whereas shingen had to spend years building a irrigation system in kai to just feed his people.
Wow, you deserve more subscriber dude.
Great vid as always. I only ever know of the Kai Takeda clan from all the video games I've played, so this was pretty informative and interesting.
Great video you deserve more subs.
Plz SHIMAZU next!!!!!
Great Vid btw ;)
Thank you so much, i was hoping someone would shed light on this history era of Japanese history
Well done! Liked and subscribed! Looking forward for more.
Man, imagine if Takeda Shingen had lived a bit longer and if Katsuyori had been more competent...
There is a manga I can recommend which was drawn by Yokoyama Mitsuteru from his Three Kingdom fame called "Takeda Shingen" . It basically tell the whole Shingen life in a matter of fact.
Great2 video! I would love to see more similar videos like this! I'm gonna watch the shimazu's after this!
3:58 the province of Takeda in Aki was captured by Mori Clan in Sengoku Jidai. Takeda Shingen is the legendary in Segoku Jidai and of Japanese history
Love shingen so much i have the takeda mon tattooed on my neck and the furin Kazan on my back
Another idea for the series is to include battle maps for the battle you are talking about.
The three woes of otherwise cool Sengoku period:
- A schemer with mediocre battle prowess won the whole thing
- Coolest clans lost in lackluster ways (Like Shingen's disease)
- The biggest battle was decided by not fighting and turncoats.
Excellent work here
Cant wait for the Shimazu and Mōri.
My god you even put the playlist in order?! Thank you no other content creator does that i swear
So stoked for the future series.
Hey there, love your channel :) I was curious if you could do a video on what Sumo was like in older times, anywhere between its beginnings in the 700s AD via the Sengoku Jidai or even the Tokugawa shogunate. Theres a fair number of videos on modern sumo, but not so much on medieval and early modern sumo
My city is sister cities with Nirasaki, homeland of the Takeda clan. They still take pride in their roots. Thanks for the video!
Nice, brief history. Also, kudos for using Nobunaga's Ambition music and images.
Ich bin Deutscher und finde die themen sehr interessanttt da ich die samurais sehr beindruckend finde mit ihrem mut ihrer ehre und nicht zu vergessen ihren legenderen schwert katana und so weiter mega mach weiter so
Can't wait to see more videos like this one, but I'm curious, would you do videos about minor clans too? My surname really is Saito, so you can imagine why I ask XD
A great clan brought down by guns
Excellent idea for a new (hopefully long) series.
As silent as the forest
As swift as the wind
As fierce as the fire
As immovable as the mountain
If you apply all four to your life, you will exceed but in the end, everything will come crumbling down around you.
One element is missing, that of water so....
As silent as the forest
As swift as the wind
As fierce as the fire
As flexible as the water
As immovable as the mountain
Now the trick the mastering this is to know when to apply one aspect and the change to another when the time is right.
I have studies much of Daimyo Takeda battle plans that I am able to get my hands on, I can not be 100% sure that they are his, let me say so I am not painted into a corner later. What I can see and tell when I compare Lord Takeda's battle plans to other top generals is that he fought war in a rigid manner. He employed very little back plans if part of his original battle plan failed. In some areas he was very flexible but in others not so. So when he no longer was head of the family, nobody was able to truly take his place to continue on.
My opinion and things I have learned about Daimyo Takeda, thank you for making this video, thank you for reading my rant, I also hope that I have not offended anyone.
Let your rapidity be that of the wind, your gentleness that of the forest. In raiding and plundering be like fire, be immovable like a mountain. These guys had one of the mightiest armies in Japan for a reason.
mom wake up shogun posted
I can dig these videos going forward
Big fan of this history and admired this clan out of all in the video game samurai warriors 2 Shingen takeda is a very tactical genius sad he just passed like that as a mystery
i got into your channel with your Sengoku Jidai videos and i was curious if you'll consider doing similar videos for earlier eras of japan. I for one would be EXTREMELY interested in such content from you! The kamakura and Muromachi periods are such that i know little about other than that the Onin war and the Mongol invasions occurred. Regardless i thank you sincerely for the amazing content youve given us. and a special nod to your Gekokujo review video for getting me into Mount and Blade. feels like a bit of a disgrace id never heard of/ played the game until recently and I've already put in 100 hours just this past month alone
ive been waiting 84 years for someone say something about the mogami clan
Is this guy going to make another one day jeez
After this video I really think you should make a top 10 best/most influential Clans in the Sengoku Jidai list dude. In retrospect at least. 🙂
Takeda is my faverite clan, mainly becouse of their cavalery, but their history is very tragic and yet, everybody heard abouth great Takeda Shingen, personaly I've heard abouth Shingen before I heard abouth Oda Nobunaga.
What really got me interested in the Takeda was Kagemusha. That was an awesome film by Akira Kurosawa
Takeda Shigen is probably the most overrated Daimyo and his father, Takeda Nobutora the most underrated Daimyo in history. It was Takeda Nobutora who reunified Kai under Takeda rule and adopted Takeda calvary tactics. Takeda Nobutora was right about what must be done to preserve the clan. He tried to establish a much stronger and centralized governing structure which irked many of his vessals. He also planned on expanding into Kanto. This is very clear from the alliances he made. He allied with Imagawa in Suruga, Suwa and Murakami in Shinano which leaves only the narrow corridor through Shinano into Kozuke, a northern part of Kanto open to his expansion.
After Shigen took over, he reneged on his father's alliances in Shinano and ultimately brought Uesugi Kenshin of Ichigo to intervene. After Imagawa Yoshimoto's defeat at Okehazama, Takeda Shigen reneged his alliance with Imagawa and took Suruga. In the end, all Takeda Shigen was able to take over was the former allies of Takeda clan. Due to the support he received from the vessals to become Daimyo, he wasn't able to reform Takeda clan that was needed to survive the changing times and the clan was destroyed not long after his death.
Really nice video ! And what a clan !
Hearing about the Taira clan would be cool at some point, don't know too much about um and would love to know more
Nice video! Your profile picture looks like a Kongo class battlecruiser or a Fusō class battleship!
Kongō*