Lowkey, this injury might be a blessing in disguise. The injury itself sucks. However, having Rhea off TV to recover for a bit will allow the audience to take a much needed break from the Liv vs Rhea storyline. This will allow some time to pass and allow Liv and Rhea to have their big blow off match likely around WM time. Hopefully, with a stipulation.
If you add Becky to the mix, she could say she's also owed a shot since Liv had Dom's help back at King and Queen of the Ring. or Add in Raquel, that seems the more sensible option, the three have a long history, that might make Raquel baby face but maybe they can find a way to bring back NXT Raquel, she doesn't HAVE to be HEEL to be NXT Raquel, tweak it a bit and it could help Raquel be intense but being lovable.
@@TheKendeHD Tiffany on SmackDown, SmackDown is also lacking stars.......iyo is a midcarder as much as HHH wants to push her look what she's doing now after being a former world champion ,Nia Jax is SmackDown..raw has no stars outside Liv and rhea
My personal opinion Rhea should be transferred to Smackdown and feud with Tiffany Stratton. I can imagine already Nia Jax abuses Tiffany to the point she cashes and wins the Women's championship from Nia after a grueling match at WrestleMania 41 vs. Rhea and Rhea turns heel again. Raquel if she and Liv Morgan do Shawn Michaels vs Diesel storyline like in the 90s, that is a good story. Especially since the story is convoluted because of how it started and how fans have twisted the perceptions of stars and their roles. Hope Rhea gets better, this will be a good soft restart to make new stars.
It made sense story wise but I think the feud has ended up having less fuel than they thought it would. I still say that Rhea is just a natural heel, they could have booked her tweener like Head of the Table Roman. They still would have gotten their merch sales etc and they could have just left the belt on her the whole time so that the next up and comer could finally take it off her and have it mean something. Turn her babyface after all that then see how it goes. This turn felt a little forced, I think she still had plenty of gas as a dominant heel.
This is why WWE needs to build up other Women stars instead on just one. Now what Liv is just gonna start mowing over people down the card like Natalya or Zelina Vega. Wishing Rhea a very speedy recovery 🙏
You'd think they'd learn from the bloodline story causing that for awhile too. Not that the bloodline story is bad or anything but it did hault a lot of heels and other stars from blowing up.
Triple H might need to rethink doing these extra long storylines. Long term booking can work when you make every week exciting with that specific story. Other than that it can get a little long in the tooth. And my God wrestlers are constantly hurt these days. These new wrestlers are terrible at protecting each other or themselves.
Long-term stories just don't work unless it's done right or has breaks. HHH vs HBK and Cena vs Punk are perfect examples of how to do it. Honestly i think the bloodline story suffers from it a lot too with huge quality dips for months. Stories need a good medium instead of it being rushed or too long.
@@cerebralassassin2185 Trish and Mickie did it flawlessly. But I truly believe it's because they had limited time and more passion. These new girls just don't have that it factor.
Like................. If it takes you 4 years to become likable and sellable, you're in the wrong circuit. Everything is too choreographed and childish.
What this video taught me is that the world champions need to wrestle semi regularly on TV. A one off match could organically generate a new challenger. I think of Rollins, Kofi and Shinsuke winning gauntlet matches pre 2020 to get the fans on their side going into title matches (minus Shinsuke getting replaced). Having the world champions just talk locks them into feuds with one person at a time which has the risk of injury - as we have seen here and no other storyline worthy challengers. An open challenge or the odd match to sense what the crowd gravitate to would be a good way to get out of these problems
That’s how I feel. Top champs or talent rarely wrestle on tv anymore, it’s just promo set up and brawl segment. I get it but then you have this gap in contenders
@@AssembleWrestling it also feels like H is scared to book multiple man matches on the mens side for world titles, one of my favourite matches of all time is Rollins vs Roman vs Ambrose vs Orton at Payback 2015 because I genuinely didnt know if Rollins would survive, miss the suspense of a multi man world title match :(
I literally think ppl are taking this soooo wrong. With Rhea being out, Liv can look a creditable champion, the women’s division gets to open back up, Rhea gets over in her absence, Raquel is now positioned at the top of the card…. I think we get some major title changes for the women’s division like the men’s tag and that’ll give some fresh match ups.
It’s just unfortunate because now the women’s division is in an even worse spot than before because you have liv that’s gonna be in straight filler feuds till Rhea gets back meaning the whole division is relegated to nothing essentially
At this rate, I think it’s better that Tiffany cash in on Liv and move to Raw. A Tiffany and Rhea program when she returns would be far more compelling and finally something fresh.
with the appreciation liv got from the crowd and triple h after crown jewel, i’m hoping this means she’s due for an actual championship reign not hindered by the super-booking of rhea or ronda. the raw women’s division desperately NEEDS a fighting champion.
I wish Rhea a safe recovery. But honestly this feud definitely needed a break, it was definitely getting dragged on way too long, and it was just getting repetitive. On the bright side this will at least give Liv the chance to fight other women on the roster, and re-establish her credibility as champion. However Liv doesn’t really have that many women on Raw to go with. Liv has already beaten Zelina, nobody is going to interested in a feud with Sonya, and Iyo is stuck in the Tag Division. Sure she has Lyra, but I highly doubt they will make Liv lose to her.
In my universe series me and my friend agreed we don't have the time to do multiple story's to build up the women’s roster on Raw and Smackdown (we do 5 matches per show to not get burned out) so we made NXT the women’s show.
I have no problem with Bliss getting back into the main even scene but she needs to return as the goddess not that cringe inducing spooky gimmick she had the last time she was there.
@@Casey420I know she didn't like the goddess gimmick, but I agree. Even if it isn't goddess, I don't wanna see Spooky Bliss again. It's been so long that she's been gone, just give me regular alexa for a bit
I think the best way to go now is maybe bring back Becky Lynch or push Lyra Valkyria because I do think Lyra Valkyria deserves a push and deserve to be on TV and I want Lyra Valkyria to be the Sami Zayn of the women’s division honestly because she is a really good wrestler and I think she can connect with the crowd as a underdog like Sami Zayn was.
@@eddiecampbell9663 Becky ain't old news. The pop will be crazy when she return. But I don't want Becky involved again. This feud is lame AF. Becky helped Liv to be where she is now, but WWE creative executives are not doing their job right. Becky don't need to be involved on this lame feud.
@urbonx, they seriously need to build the other stars, they can't just relie on Becky all the time besides she needs a rest and she's got a family. There's loads of women stars they could pit against Liv like Lyra Valkyria, Roxanne Perez, Alba Fyre, Sonya Deville or Zellina Vega.
OK if Rhea Ripley comes back with a royal rumble and comes out at number 30 she can do that but the thing is survivor series is at the end of November 30 so she might come back early be four survivor series. I don’t know because it says online that she might come back for survivor, series, wargames, or royal rumble or wrestlemania 41 it depends on how fast you can heal but I hope and pray that should be healed in time and come back and get her title back because me and all her fans we want her back. Who else wants mommy back I know I do I miss her team mommy all the way
The main issue is that people are tired of the feud. And have no interest. Becky's out until who knows. Kairi? Lyra? Out of all the credible people that can Take that title off Liv currently is Iyo. Although the one Major fear i have is that. A Iyo L against Liv will completely Kill any momentum she Regained after losing the title and The upset loss To Lyra
Maybe they could decide to book Tiffany to cash in on Liv but I doubt it. The only other credible contender besides Iyo is Asuka but she's out as well. Compared to Smackdown, the RAW women's main event scene is suffering.
@mind_ctrl5817 Smackdown has their own issues of their own not as bad as raw though but Outside of Nia Bianca Jade a Returning Charlotte and Tiffany. There isn't anyone else that's credible either Bayley's gotten stale. And is coming off a Mediocre title run. Naomi's 2024 has been Underwhelming and is Most likely on the verge of a heel turn. Michin. Not ready for that main event role. Chelsea can be a championship Contender if she drops the Karen Gimmick list goes on yadi yadi yada
@RoxChaseDi9 smackdowns womens division is good especially when charlotte returns,Bianca and Jade lose the titles,and bayley and Naomi feud it'll be great
@@RoxChaseDi9 Smackdown’s main event scene is way ahead of RAW’s. The issues you pointed out aren’t even really issues-they’re actually building up contenders through the storylines, unlike RAW. Look at Naomi vs. Bayley-that feud gives both of them a boost, no matter who wins. Same goes for the Bianca and Jade feud, which keeps things fresh. They’re even managing to put together cool mini-feuds that aren’t all about titles, like Michin vs. Chelsea. And with Charlotte coming back, things are looking up. I get it, Naomi and Bayley’s runs haven’t been amazing, but at least Smackdown is trying with its roster. Over on RAW, the only women’s story with any depth was Liv vs. Rhea, and now Rhea’s out again. They tried to do something with Pure Fusion Collective, but that didn’t go anywhere. After Lyra's Queen of the Ring push we though we were getting something and then she was nowhere to be seen. this is why the women need midcard titles
Liv needs a move like AJ Lee. Something ''unbeatable'' like the Black Widow. She does act like AJ in other ways, so she needs something to solidify the glass cannon gimmick.
This shows us that the women's division isn't JUST Super-Rhea and should be something they learn from. They had a legit chance over the summer and even when Rhea came back to build up new talent but they decided against it in favor of her. I knew this would happen and somehow they'll blame Liv or Rhea or even the rest of the division. When in actual fact the guy in charge, Triple H, back himself into a corner. All's not lost yet because they have a heel champion who's good at building the talent around her and puts on entertaining matches when given the opportunity to. They need to bank on Liv and have her in as many "feuds" as possible. Throw the challengers her way, similar to what they did with Roman (not saying she is Roman or similar to Roman). Have her put on a show and showcase the other talent in a great light. They obviously shouldn't win but showcasing their skills is a great way to get the unknowing audience excited for more women's wrestlers.
It sucks for her but its probably better for the story and her momentum, people love you wayy more after you are gone for a while. The Judgment day stuff was mid asf so this will give it time to take a break and come back when shes hotter
This is gonna go all the way out to Mania now definitely but i don’t think Dom is gonna be in the picture at that point I think he’ll go after the IC title!
Vazquer and Guilia from NXT. Zelina Vega or Lyra are more than ready from primetime. You have to trust with what you have now. Charlotte is injure until who's know and Becky just want high payroll.
They were teasing it this past Monday, but Jade/Bianca splitting could do something. Pull one (or both) over from SmackDown, and let them go at each other on the way to the Women's World Title.
Big doubt becky be back anytime soon. Not sure if anyone notice it but most of the time now especially recently, both seth and becky are like taking turns. When seth has promo, becky away, when becky has promo. Seth is away.probably they taking turn to take care of their daughter. So seeing seth and bronson are having a feud rn. Its kinda impossible becky would be back before seth finish his turn
I don't think Becky would want that. In her mind she perhaps wants the WWE to showcase the other women, well here's my list, take it I'm just a causal fan and not a hardcore fan Obviously Tiffany with MITB like you mention. Iyo Sky because she is just as popular with the crowd as Rhea is but the language barrier is a problem unless Dakota recovers from injury. Lyra Valkyria just to build her up so the audience can warm up to her. She got a good reception during the Queen of the ring tournament. Here's an interesting choice, Alba Fyre she is considering by many one of the best female wresters by statistics and an underrated one, she hold the women's NXT UK belt for 649 days! A Women's NXT tag team champion with Isla Dawn and Dusty Rhodes classic winner with Iyo sky when she was Io Sharai, and during one of Becky's promos when she was the champion she mention Alba to Michael Cole. Last one is an NXT choice if she gets called up Roxanne Perez.
Nah it still feels so soon. We just had one, and besides, Liv and Rhea doesn’t really feel super personal anymore. It’s dragged out and lost its appeal. I’d be happy with a no holds barred match, and have Liv get squashed.
I think what you do is if rhea is out for a few months have Liv defend the title 3 or 4 times. Then rhea can comeback and win either the rumble or the chamber for a match against Liv.
Our first problem is RAW being only 2 hours now so things are going to start getting cut and without Rhea's star power the women's division on RAW might be in trouble. Someone here mentioned Lyra. I wouldn't hate that but she hasn't really connected with the crowd yet and we need this to hit the ground running. Becky and Charlotte could maybe work. But i think your idea of Tiffany is the best. She would slot in so perfectly. The cash in allows us to move her seamlessly to RAW. She's almost as popular as Rhea. She takes Liv's title so automatic feud there but also look at her. She may be one of the few women Liv might feel threatened by concerning Dom. She's big enough to not just get bowled over by Raquel. I think it's perfect. That could run until Mania or whatever for Rhea's return. People have been chomping at the bit for a feud between Tiffany and Rhea this sets that up perfectly to.
Thats the main problem i have with the storytelling of H, because of his booking it always feels like, nobody is interested in winning titles besides of like 1 or 2 contenders for example, LA Knight feud with Mello and Andrade for Month now like they are the only 2 who to win the US Title, Rhea was feuding with Liv for Month now, nobody is stepping in saying like „ yoo stop it, i want a title shot too“, That is the case for all Title just thing about one interesting title divison where u can actually say, wow so many good wrestler are eager to win it. U wont find one
Hey, I hear what you're saying about Rhea calling for help but what reason would Becky or Charlotte, or literally any other women have for helping her considering who she is, the faction she was a part of and what she did? It doesn't make sense that they'd immediately help her because she got betrayed and is a "babyface" now.
Liv should go on a winning streak. Helped by jd. Hell make her a double champion with Raquel and her being tag champs again. Let Charlotte win rumble and beat liv at mania.
Liv is not going to be in Judgment Day for long Finn is going to kick them both out because he is Angry that Dom has got a Championship Match and Finn wants the title for himself
Everyone is looking for Cena to get #17 but I don't forget that regardless of the current Women's title picture Charlotte is right there too. WWE loves spectacle and they could do both at the same time if they really wanted to. I don't think Cena cares or wants it, Ric has said specifically he would like Charlotte to get it but regardless this is a real thing just like WWE wanting to book Rock/Roman over Cody last year.
See that is what they get for only hyping up and only building Rhea up. Hope this teaches them a lesson that they have more talent on their women roster.
They had no choice but to work with what they had. The main event scene on RAW was solid for a bit-Alexa, Asuka, Becky-all top contenders. But then the roster thinned out, with people out for injuries or personal stuff, and suddenly Rhea was left with zero legit challengers. So, they rushed to build Liv up by having Becky put her over before leaving. Honestly, I think they just got too comfortable and didn’t prep enough legit contenders. And by booking Rhea as this unstoppable beast crushing everyone, they kinda backed themselves into a corner. All they can really do now is ride out this lull and hope next year’s roster brings some drafts, new call-ups, and a return of the main event players.
@khesipresents1885 They only called up Lyra, Kiana, and Blair, and that’s just not enough to build stars. Look at how NXT is handling their women’s division-they’re booking talent right and making stars, even with their midcard scene. They can turn almost anyone into a legit contender. Roxy’s already set for a big push, and Meta 4 is absolutely on fire right now. Plus, with Jordyn Grace’s contract ending in January, she’ll be joining NXT soon, probably alongside Zaria. Even with their main event stables, NXT could let go of a couple names and still have the strongest women’s division in wrestling.
You can shuffle the deck as many times as you like. That's not going to matter if you're not playing your cards right. And one of the few criticisms I have towards wwe at the moment is that they aren't building new stars quite as much as they should, especially in their women's division. On Smackdown, they're focusing all their time and attention on veterans like Bayley and Naomi instead of building their more recent NXT call ups like Tiffany Stratton (and where the hell is Blair Davenport?). They had Michin win some matches, but she never feels like much of a threat to Nia Jax. On Raw, they could have been building stars like Lyra Valkyria, Ivy Nile, Kiana James (again, where the hell has she been?), or even Maxxine Dupri if you put in the work to get her the experience she needs to be a singles star. And I'm just confining my examples to women's wrestlers who are on the main roster, not part of a formal tag team (the women's tag team division is a whole other can of worms), and not to my knowledge currently injured. I'm not even counting NXT women you could call up in the draft or the two great women's wrestlers that just got released. And don't get me wrong, I'm a huge fan of Rhea Ripley and I hate that she's injured again. But when you build your entire women's division around one top star and you don't let anyone else have their time to shine, you're setting yourself up for failure... and let's be honest, your name is probably Tony Khan.
I wish they moved from this feud after bad blood. Finally we will have a break from rhea and liv altercations on raw. They can return after rhea wins the elimination chamber and faced liv for whc in a blood feud match. Liv can have 3 ple feuds in the meanwhile. I'll love to see zelina snap out of losing and face liv again at the royal rumble of elimination chamber.
No, we need a fatal 4-way between Lyra, Ivy, Natalya & Deville. Lyra wins and gets beaten week after that by Racquel & Liv. A week after, tag team and Lyra's partner guess who............Tatum Paxley (she arrives on RAW now) & hopefully, they will give the title to Lyra at Wargames! Honestly, Tiffany hasn't shown me any credibility to be a champ right now. She has to win more matches and last time, she won an individual match on TV was actually Money in the Bank itself lol back in late June. She has lost to Liv, Naomi, Bayley & Michin since then and just won tag team match with Jax.
I'm sorry I don't know her name, but get the girl from TNA that has been coming in every now and then. Start dummying people, have her possibly win the title so Rhea doesn't have to fight Liv as rumors have she doesn't want to fight her anymore.
No becky... you have many women who can step up. Use who you have. Zelina vega is the number one who deserves it. Have her take the title... there would be a pop for that.
So, you identified a major problem; in that RAW doesn't have the kind of big star power in the women's division. Yet, your ideas for a solution going into Survivor Series, is to bring in already made talent for a feud. Nothing against Lynch or Flair, but no! throwing either of these 2 back into a title picture is a cop out,, you know it, I know, everyone watching is going to know it. No, instead, now is a good time to work on another mid card player, or several) and work them slowly into a main even player by the time WM comes around. Granted, it would have been better to start earlier, like Summer Slam, but that's where we are right now. I think someone like Raquelle Whelsh or Selena Vega would be best in this position. You could put Vega in that position, and have them do spots with the LWO, who are also floundering at this point. This could lead into more stuff with the Mysterio family. Maybe reigniting that family feud is too soon, but it's a possibility. Think of it, War Games, Judgement Day vs LWO. That would be a totally different beast than the Bloodline feud.
Honestly speaking Raw doesn’t have a lot of potential women to take that title Cause they were focused on 2 ladies for months n now they have no body that is a threat to the W WHC
You have a surplus of talented women on NXT. Could easily bring one to Raw for a temporary fued. Specifically Zaria. I realize it's early but she has Rhea ties. She doesn't have to fued with Liv either. Her and Raquel could be the focus with Liv by Raquels side. Or have Jordyne come along to make it a tag fued
@ that serves for situations like this where an unexpected injury happens. Lyra was a top star in nxt and she’s showed she could be reliable that’s all I’m getting at it’s not about my ‘fandom’ it’s not only with Lyra it could be other stars too but I used Lyra bc she was already a top star in nxt
that serves for situation like this. Lyra was a top star in nxt and she’s showed she could be reliable that’s all I’m getting at it’s not about my ‘fandom’ it’s not only with Lyra it could be other stars too but I used Lyra bc she was already a top star in nxt @@khesipresents1885
She is the best in the business man or woman and should main event W.M and by the end of her career she will replace Moolah as the greatest female ever
I’m all for long term storytelling, but this can be a disadvantage to it. This storyline was stretched way too long. Rhea should’ve just won the belt back. Stretching it out to wrestlemania or beyond is going to be hard. It leaves Damian stuck in the Judgement Day feud that he had already won. The rare HHH “L”.
Lowkey, this injury might be a blessing in disguise. The injury itself sucks. However, having Rhea off TV to recover for a bit will allow the audience to take a much needed break from the Liv vs Rhea storyline. This will allow some time to pass and allow Liv and Rhea to have their big blow off match likely around WM time. Hopefully, with a stipulation.
If you add Becky to the mix, she could say she's also owed a shot since Liv had Dom's help back at King and Queen of the Ring. or Add in Raquel, that seems the more sensible option, the three have a long history, that might make Raquel baby face but maybe they can find a way to bring back NXT Raquel, she doesn't HAVE to be HEEL to be NXT Raquel, tweak it a bit and it could help Raquel be intense but being lovable.
They backed themselves into a corner by having only one person trying to get that belt from Liv.
Which is just super dumb..two people at the top...now it'll be random jobbers vs liv
tiffant stratton? iyo sky? nia jax? are we all watching the same past 4 weeks of wrestling?😂
@@TheKendeHD Tiffany on SmackDown, SmackDown is also lacking stars.......iyo is a midcarder as much as HHH wants to push her look what she's doing now after being a former world champion ,Nia Jax is SmackDown..raw has no stars outside Liv and rhea
My personal opinion Rhea should be transferred to Smackdown and feud with Tiffany Stratton. I can imagine already Nia Jax abuses Tiffany to the point she cashes and wins the Women's championship from Nia after a grueling match at WrestleMania 41 vs. Rhea and Rhea turns heel again. Raquel if she and Liv Morgan do Shawn Michaels vs Diesel storyline like in the 90s, that is a good story. Especially since the story is convoluted because of how it started and how fans have twisted the perceptions of stars and their roles. Hope Rhea gets better, this will be a good soft restart to make new stars.
It made sense story wise but I think the feud has ended up having less fuel than they thought it would. I still say that Rhea is just a natural heel, they could have booked her tweener like Head of the Table Roman. They still would have gotten their merch sales etc and they could have just left the belt on her the whole time so that the next up and comer could finally take it off her and have it mean something. Turn her babyface after all that then see how it goes. This turn felt a little forced, I think she still had plenty of gas as a dominant heel.
This is why WWE needs to build up other Women stars instead on just one. Now what Liv is just gonna start mowing over people down the card like Natalya or Zelina Vega. Wishing Rhea a very speedy recovery 🙏
You'd think they'd learn from the bloodline story causing that for awhile too. Not that the bloodline story is bad or anything but it did hault a lot of heels and other stars from blowing up.
Triple H might need to rethink doing these extra long storylines. Long term booking can work when you make every week exciting with that specific story. Other than that it can get a little long in the tooth. And my God wrestlers are constantly hurt these days. These new wrestlers are terrible at protecting each other or themselves.
Long-term stories just don't work unless it's done right or has breaks. HHH vs HBK and Cena vs Punk are perfect examples of how to do it. Honestly i think the bloodline story suffers from it a lot too with huge quality dips for months. Stories need a good medium instead of it being rushed or too long.
@@cerebralassassin2185 Trish and Mickie did it flawlessly. But I truly believe it's because they had limited time and more passion. These new girls just don't have that it factor.
Like................. If it takes you 4 years to become likable and sellable, you're in the wrong circuit. Everything is too choreographed and childish.
Vince was a better booker
@@RoseGoldJay1 No he wasn't y'all are for real just legitimately cry babies.
They needed this. This gives the feud a fresh twist. Liv needed a new feud. Triple H is best win he needs to pivot.
What this video taught me is that the world champions need to wrestle semi regularly on TV. A one off match could organically generate a new challenger. I think of Rollins, Kofi and Shinsuke winning gauntlet matches pre 2020 to get the fans on their side going into title matches (minus Shinsuke getting replaced). Having the world champions just talk locks them into feuds with one person at a time which has the risk of injury - as we have seen here and no other storyline worthy challengers. An open challenge or the odd match to sense what the crowd gravitate to would be a good way to get out of these problems
That’s how I feel. Top champs or talent rarely wrestle on tv anymore, it’s just promo set up and brawl segment. I get it but then you have this gap in contenders
@@AssembleWrestling it also feels like H is scared to book multiple man matches on the mens side for world titles, one of my favourite matches of all time is Rollins vs Roman vs Ambrose vs Orton at Payback 2015 because I genuinely didnt know if Rollins would survive, miss the suspense of a multi man world title match :(
I literally think ppl are taking this soooo wrong. With Rhea being out, Liv can look a creditable champion, the women’s division gets to open back up, Rhea gets over in her absence, Raquel is now positioned at the top of the card…. I think we get some major title changes for the women’s division like the men’s tag and that’ll give some fresh match ups.
Health before wealth wishing Rhea a speedy recovery & WWE will be fine Triple h will come up new ideas for Liv, it’s time for new opponents
Tiffany Stratton cashing in on Liv is the best answer. It would be a shock and really make things interesting.
I agree or call Becky have someone step up a young face like Larya
It’s just unfortunate because now the women’s division is in an even worse spot than before because you have liv that’s gonna be in straight filler feuds till Rhea gets back meaning the whole division is relegated to nothing essentially
At this rate, I think it’s better that Tiffany cash in on Liv and move to Raw. A Tiffany and Rhea program when she returns would be far more compelling and finally something fresh.
“THIS IS MY BRUTALITY” as the 30th entry in the rumble will hit like crack in the 80s
or the better feeling buying that Smackdown vs Raw game
Saw a tweet saying she got injured in the same arena as the last injury
with the appreciation liv got from the crowd and triple h after crown jewel, i’m hoping this means she’s due for an actual championship reign not hindered by the super-booking of rhea or ronda. the raw women’s division desperately NEEDS a fighting champion.
The addition of Raquel makes me doubt this
I wish Rhea a safe recovery. But honestly this feud definitely needed a break, it was definitely getting dragged on way too long, and it was just getting repetitive.
On the bright side this will at least give Liv the chance to fight other women on the roster, and re-establish her credibility as champion. However Liv doesn’t really have that many women on Raw to go with. Liv has already beaten Zelina, nobody is going to interested in a feud with Sonya, and Iyo is stuck in the Tag Division. Sure she has Lyra, but I highly doubt they will make Liv lose to her.
In my universe series me and my friend agreed we don't have the time to do multiple story's to build up the women’s roster on Raw and Smackdown (we do 5 matches per show to not get burned out) so we made NXT the women’s show.
Smart
If Alexa Bliss is ready, they could insert her in the Main Event. But they need to build other main event talents.
Will they ever do that under the current regime?
@ They did paint themself in a corner…
I have no problem with Bliss getting back into the main even scene but she needs to return as the goddess not that cringe inducing spooky gimmick she had the last time she was there.
@@Casey420I know she didn't like the goddess gimmick, but I agree. Even if it isn't goddess, I don't wanna see Spooky Bliss again. It's been so long that she's been gone, just give me regular alexa for a bit
Hope Rhea gets well soon. 1st ☝️
I think the best way to go now is maybe bring back Becky Lynch or push Lyra Valkyria because I do think Lyra Valkyria deserves a push and deserve to be on TV and I want Lyra Valkyria to be the Sami Zayn of the women’s division honestly because she is a really good wrestler and I think she can connect with the crowd as a underdog like Sami Zayn was.
Becky lynch is old news plus Liv has already beat her......wwe need to build up a new star just like u said with Lyra.....they need to do better
Why Lyra? She's more plain than a deck of cards. She looks like some woman I seen across the street with her baby stroller like please no.
Lol almost all of WWE's pushed guys are old news but they rely on them @@eddiecampbell9663
@@eddiecampbell9663 Becky ain't old news. The pop will be crazy when she return. But I don't want Becky involved again. This feud is lame AF. Becky helped Liv to be where she is now, but WWE creative executives are not doing their job right. Becky don't need to be involved on this lame feud.
@urbonx, they seriously need to build the other stars, they can't just relie on Becky all the time besides she needs a rest and she's got a family.
There's loads of women stars they could pit against Liv like Lyra Valkyria, Roxanne Perez, Alba Fyre, Sonya Deville or Zellina Vega.
OK if Rhea Ripley comes back with a royal rumble and comes out at number 30 she can do that but the thing is survivor series is at the end of November 30 so she might come back early be four survivor series. I don’t know because it says online that she might come back for survivor, series, wargames, or royal rumble or wrestlemania 41 it depends on how fast you can heal but I hope and pray that should be healed in time and come back and get her title back because me and all her fans we want her back. Who else wants mommy back I know I do I miss her team mommy all the way
The main issue is that people are tired of the feud. And have no interest. Becky's out until who knows. Kairi? Lyra? Out of all the credible people that can Take that title off Liv currently is Iyo. Although the one Major fear i have is that. A Iyo L against Liv will completely Kill any momentum she Regained after losing the title and The upset loss To Lyra
Maybe they could decide to book Tiffany to cash in on Liv but I doubt it. The only other credible contender besides Iyo is Asuka but she's out as well. Compared to Smackdown, the RAW women's main event scene is suffering.
@mind_ctrl5817 Smackdown has their own issues of their own not as bad as raw though but Outside of Nia Bianca Jade a Returning Charlotte and Tiffany. There isn't anyone else that's credible either Bayley's gotten stale. And is coming off a Mediocre title run. Naomi's 2024 has been Underwhelming and is Most likely on the verge of a heel turn. Michin. Not ready for that main event role. Chelsea can be a championship Contender if she drops the Karen Gimmick list goes on yadi yadi yada
@RoxChaseDi9 smackdowns womens division is good especially when charlotte returns,Bianca and Jade lose the titles,and bayley and Naomi feud it'll be great
@@RoxChaseDi9
Smackdown’s main event scene is way ahead of RAW’s. The issues you pointed out aren’t even really issues-they’re actually building up contenders through the storylines, unlike RAW. Look at Naomi vs. Bayley-that feud gives both of them a boost, no matter who wins. Same goes for the Bianca and Jade feud, which keeps things fresh. They’re even managing to put together cool mini-feuds that aren’t all about titles, like Michin vs. Chelsea. And with Charlotte coming back, things are looking up. I get it, Naomi and Bayley’s runs haven’t been amazing, but at least Smackdown is trying with its roster. Over on RAW, the only women’s story with any depth was Liv vs. Rhea, and now Rhea’s out again. They tried to do something with Pure Fusion Collective, but that didn’t go anywhere. After Lyra's Queen of the Ring push we though we were getting something and then she was nowhere to be seen. this is why the women need midcard titles
Liv needs a move like AJ Lee. Something ''unbeatable'' like the Black Widow. She does act like AJ in other ways, so she needs something to solidify the glass cannon gimmick.
This shows us that the women's division isn't JUST Super-Rhea and should be something they learn from. They had a legit chance over the summer and even when Rhea came back to build up new talent but they decided against it in favor of her. I knew this would happen and somehow they'll blame Liv or Rhea or even the rest of the division. When in actual fact the guy in charge, Triple H, back himself into a corner. All's not lost yet because they have a heel champion who's good at building the talent around her and puts on entertaining matches when given the opportunity to. They need to bank on Liv and have her in as many "feuds" as possible. Throw the challengers her way, similar to what they did with Roman (not saying she is Roman or similar to Roman). Have her put on a show and showcase the other talent in a great light. They obviously shouldn't win but showcasing their skills is a great way to get the unknowing audience excited for more women's wrestlers.
Raw needs a new young face to.step up like Lyra her and Liv can make a good story line
It sucks for her but its probably better for the story and her momentum, people love you wayy more after you are gone for a while. The Judgment day stuff was mid asf so this will give it time to take a break and come back when shes hotter
She just came back a few months ago. She should’ve won the belt back and moved on from the Judgement Day by now.
liv vs tiff would actually be a killer match
This is gonna go all the way out to Mania now definitely but i don’t think Dom is gonna be in the picture at that point I think he’ll go after the IC title!
He will be going after world title
@@Helena_Garcia38😂😂😂😂 no
I hope Rhea comes back as fast as she can !!!!!!
Alexa Bliss could return
She could get help from Wyatt 6
Wyatt 6 vs Judgment Day WM 41
Vazquer and Guilia from NXT. Zelina Vega or Lyra are more than ready from primetime. You have to trust with what you have now. Charlotte is injure until who's know and Becky just want high payroll.
WWE GOES BLOODY THIS YEAR 😦😦
Not more Becki or Charlotte. Going back to the same people getting title shots all the time, is not the way forward.
The only thing I can see from this is that they can now drag this to wrestlemania 41 for sure
For me, its either royal rumble or mania 41
They were teasing it this past Monday, but Jade/Bianca splitting could do something. Pull one (or both) over from SmackDown, and let them go at each other on the way to the Women's World Title.
Big doubt becky be back anytime soon. Not sure if anyone notice it but most of the time now especially recently, both seth and becky are like taking turns. When seth has promo, becky away, when becky has promo. Seth is away.probably they taking turn to take care of their daughter. So seeing seth and bronson are having a feud rn. Its kinda impossible becky would be back before seth finish his turn
this guy certainly knows a lot more about WWE than he did when he started a month or so ago. Mad props to him.
Me? Been watching my whole life
Have Tiffany Stratton cash in on liv
I don't think Becky would want that. In her mind she perhaps wants the WWE to showcase the other women, well here's my list, take it I'm just a causal fan and not a hardcore fan
Obviously Tiffany with MITB like you mention.
Iyo Sky because she is just as popular with the crowd as Rhea is but the language barrier is a problem unless Dakota recovers from injury.
Lyra Valkyria just to build her up so the audience can warm up to her. She got a good reception during the Queen of the ring tournament.
Here's an interesting choice, Alba Fyre she is considering by many one of the best female wresters by statistics and an underrated one, she hold the women's NXT UK belt for 649 days! A Women's NXT tag team champion with Isla Dawn and Dusty Rhodes classic winner with Iyo sky when she was Io Sharai, and during one of Becky's promos when she was the champion she mention Alba to Michael Cole.
Last one is an NXT choice if she gets called up Roxanne Perez.
Lyra and Liv can make a good story line Raw need a young new face
Iyo sky would be great but needs Dakota as a mouth piece
When Rhea comes back just make the final chapter between Liv and Rhea a Hell in a Cell match.
that would work! do it at Mania
Indeed. Now, it warrants it more than ever.
Casket match
Nah it still feels so soon. We just had one, and besides, Liv and Rhea doesn’t really feel super personal anymore. It’s dragged out and lost its appeal. I’d be happy with a no holds barred match, and have Liv get squashed.
@@AssembleWrestlingplease don't mention Intergender ruining women wrestling for years
I think what you do is if rhea is out for a few months have Liv defend the title 3 or 4 times. Then rhea can comeback and win either the rumble or the chamber for a match against Liv.
Our first problem is RAW being only 2 hours now so things are going to start getting cut and without Rhea's star power the women's division on RAW might be in trouble.
Someone here mentioned Lyra. I wouldn't hate that but she hasn't really connected with the crowd yet and we need this to hit the ground running. Becky and Charlotte could maybe work.
But i think your idea of Tiffany is the best. She would slot in so perfectly. The cash in allows us to move her seamlessly to RAW. She's almost as popular as Rhea. She takes Liv's title so automatic feud there but also look at her. She may be one of the few women Liv might feel threatened by concerning Dom. She's big enough to not just get bowled over by Raquel. I think it's perfect. That could run until Mania or whatever for Rhea's return. People have been chomping at the bit for a feud between Tiffany and Rhea this sets that up perfectly to.
Maybe not for this cycle, but Lyra Valkyria is there and not being used much if at all.
I agree Lyra and Liv can make a good story line have a young new face build her up that may work
Thats the main problem i have with the storytelling of H, because of his booking it always feels like, nobody is interested in winning titles besides of like 1 or 2 contenders for example, LA Knight feud with Mello and Andrade for Month now like they are the only 2 who to win the US Title, Rhea was feuding with Liv for Month now, nobody is stepping in saying like „ yoo stop it, i want a title shot too“, That is the case for all Title just thing about one interesting title divison where u can actually say, wow so many good wrestler are eager to win it. U wont find one
Let’s just have Tiffany move to RAW and cash in on Liv Morgan.
Best part of two hour raw is no pure fusion collective
Too bad wwe clearly want so bad for Zoey to get over,but it's not working
She’s not really injured. They are just trying to drag her feud with Liv until Wrestlemania. It’s all a work
this draft next year is gonna push this woman’s division even farther bc in nxt ou boy
Mitb winner lurking on liv could be interesting
What about a tag team feud. Revenge tour cannot be over before Liv and Raquel win the tag team title.
Hey, I hear what you're saying about Rhea calling for help but what reason would Becky or Charlotte, or literally any other women have for helping her considering who she is, the faction she was a part of and what she did? It doesn't make sense that they'd immediately help her because she got betrayed and is a "babyface" now.
She’s gonna be gone 2-3 months tops. It doesn’t take long for an orbital fracture to completely heal
Liv should go on a winning streak. Helped by jd. Hell make her a double champion with Raquel and her being tag champs again. Let Charlotte win rumble and beat liv at mania.
Liv is not going to be in Judgment Day for long Finn is going to kick them both out because he is Angry that Dom has got a Championship Match and Finn wants the title for himself
Everyone is looking for Cena to get #17 but I don't forget that regardless of the current Women's title picture Charlotte is right there too. WWE loves spectacle and they could do both at the same time if they really wanted to. I don't think Cena cares or wants it, Ric has said specifically he would like Charlotte to get it but regardless this is a real thing just like WWE wanting to book Rock/Roman over Cody last year.
See that is what they get for only hyping up and only building Rhea up. Hope this teaches them a lesson that they have more talent on their women roster.
All possible threats are on SmackDown. HHH robbed Raw in the draft Iyo now has to come up clutch and I have all the confidence in her.
They had no choice but to work with what they had. The main event scene on RAW was solid for a bit-Alexa, Asuka, Becky-all top contenders. But then the roster thinned out, with people out for injuries or personal stuff, and suddenly Rhea was left with zero legit challengers. So, they rushed to build Liv up by having Becky put her over before leaving. Honestly, I think they just got too comfortable and didn’t prep enough legit contenders. And by booking Rhea as this unstoppable beast crushing everyone, they kinda backed themselves into a corner. All they can really do now is ride out this lull and hope next year’s roster brings some drafts, new call-ups, and a return of the main event players.
New call ups they'll do nothing with?isn't this year's nxt call ups enough for them to build new stars?
@khesipresents1885 They only called up Lyra, Kiana, and Blair, and that’s just not enough to build stars. Look at how NXT is handling their women’s division-they’re booking talent right and making stars, even with their midcard scene. They can turn almost anyone into a legit contender. Roxy’s already set for a big push, and Meta 4 is absolutely on fire right now. Plus, with Jordyn Grace’s contract ending in January, she’ll be joining NXT soon, probably alongside Zaria. Even with their main event stables, NXT could let go of a couple names and still have the strongest women’s division in wrestling.
Feel so sad for her 💔
Tiffany tried to cash in on LIV BUT RHEA STOPPIT. REMEMBER?
I think Lyra has a good story with Liv to tell, fighting for Becky
You can shuffle the deck as many times as you like. That's not going to matter if you're not playing your cards right. And one of the few criticisms I have towards wwe at the moment is that they aren't building new stars quite as much as they should, especially in their women's division. On Smackdown, they're focusing all their time and attention on veterans like Bayley and Naomi instead of building their more recent NXT call ups like Tiffany Stratton (and where the hell is Blair Davenport?). They had Michin win some matches, but she never feels like much of a threat to Nia Jax. On Raw, they could have been building stars like Lyra Valkyria, Ivy Nile, Kiana James (again, where the hell has she been?), or even Maxxine Dupri if you put in the work to get her the experience she needs to be a singles star. And I'm just confining my examples to women's wrestlers who are on the main roster, not part of a formal tag team (the women's tag team division is a whole other can of worms), and not to my knowledge currently injured. I'm not even counting NXT women you could call up in the draft or the two great women's wrestlers that just got released. And don't get me wrong, I'm a huge fan of Rhea Ripley and I hate that she's injured again. But when you build your entire women's division around one top star and you don't let anyone else have their time to shine, you're setting yourself up for failure... and let's be honest, your name is probably Tony Khan.
Tiffy time!
I wish they moved from this feud after bad blood. Finally we will have a break from rhea and liv altercations on raw. They can return after rhea wins the elimination chamber and faced liv for whc in a blood feud match. Liv can have 3 ple feuds in the meanwhile. I'll love to see zelina snap out of losing and face liv again at the royal rumble of elimination chamber.
The way Zelina Vega destroyed Liv on the mic with the sloppy seconds promo makes me think she can do even better than that if given the chance.
No, we need a fatal 4-way between Lyra, Ivy, Natalya & Deville. Lyra wins and gets beaten week after that by Racquel & Liv. A week after, tag team and Lyra's partner guess who............Tatum Paxley (she arrives on RAW now) & hopefully, they will give the title to Lyra at Wargames! Honestly, Tiffany hasn't shown me any credibility to be a champ right now. She has to win more matches and last time, she won an individual match on TV was actually Money in the Bank itself lol back in late June. She has lost to Liv, Naomi, Bayley & Michin since then and just won tag team match with Jax.
Turn Tiffy face and make her cash-in on Liv.
I think someone or multiple talents (especially from "NXT") will replace Rhea Ripley (⚖️) just like The Ruthless Aggression era.. .🤔💭
0:23 IM IN THE THICK OF IT EVERYBODY KNOWS ITS OVER WHEN IT FLOWS I SKIED IN AND IT FROZE
Tbh I think this is a time for a Charlotte flair return when she get cleared
A face you could push fairly quickly I think could be Lyra Valkyria .
Or have Tiffany and nia being a bad ass duo with both women’s titles
Raw needs to be 3 hours again
They could even bring in Charlotte Flair.
I'm sorry I don't know her name, but get the girl from TNA that has been coming in every now and then. Start dummying people, have her possibly win the title so Rhea doesn't have to fight Liv as rumors have she doesn't want to fight her anymore.
No becky... you have many women who can step up. Use who you have. Zelina vega is the number one who deserves it. Have her take the title... there would be a pop for that.
Do the tiffany idea that could be really fun we get new matches tiffany vs iyo,becky,Liv,Lyra then we can get back to the nia stuff at WM
So, you identified a major problem; in that RAW doesn't have the kind of big star power in the women's division. Yet, your ideas for a solution going into Survivor Series, is to bring in already made talent for a feud. Nothing against Lynch or Flair, but no! throwing either of these 2 back into a title picture is a cop out,, you know it, I know, everyone watching is going to know it.
No, instead, now is a good time to work on another mid card player, or several) and work them slowly into a main even player by the time WM comes around. Granted, it would have been better to start earlier, like Summer Slam, but that's where we are right now. I think someone like Raquelle Whelsh or Selena Vega would be best in this position. You could put Vega in that position, and have them do spots with the LWO, who are also floundering at this point. This could lead into more stuff with the Mysterio family. Maybe reigniting that family feud is too soon, but it's a possibility. Think of it, War Games, Judgement Day vs LWO. That would be a totally different beast than the Bloodline feud.
Good ideas
Honestly speaking
Raw doesn’t have a lot of potential women to take that title
Cause they were focused on 2 ladies for months n now they have no body that is a threat to the W WHC
I don't becky will come back this year she will make her at the royal rumble come out as number 30
Or make it to the elimination chamber.
@maroon9273 Maybe but one way or the other she's coming back she never she is retired
That is one scary looking picture
I say Zelina Vega as a contender.
Rhea return at Royal Rumble? Or Wrestlemania? Either way she takes back her women's world championship!
It’s not her title, dumb ass Liv beat her at Summerslam to retain her title and she beat her at Bad Blood too. Don’t care
That’s why you make Tiff cash in on Liv
Maybe the MITB storyline gets changed and tiffany cashes on liv instead of nia
let chlsea green have a hometown match at survivor series vs liv
The women's decision is full of tag teams, which is not... great
You have a surplus of talented women on NXT. Could easily bring one to Raw for a temporary fued. Specifically Zaria. I realize it's early but she has Rhea ties. She doesn't have to fued with Liv either. Her and Raquel could be the focus with Liv by Raquels side. Or have Jordyne come along to make it a tag fued
I think you aged Rhea on the thumbnail 25 years older.
😂 wasn’t trying to
It's time for Lyra Valkyria
Push Shayna as the monster she is.. yah she ain’t a Face. But I wanna see the Destroyer back
This is why they should be build lyra up as a top star as well.
That's just now 2 top guys her and Liv ..who does that serve besides you and your fandom for Lyra ...they must build up many stars
@ that serves for situations like this where an unexpected injury happens. Lyra was a top star in nxt and she’s showed she could be reliable that’s all I’m getting at it’s not about my ‘fandom’ it’s not only with Lyra it could be other stars too but I used Lyra bc she was already a top star in nxt
that serves for situation like this. Lyra was a top star in nxt and she’s showed she could be reliable that’s all I’m getting at it’s not about my ‘fandom’ it’s not only with Lyra it could be other stars too but I used Lyra bc she was already a top star in nxt @@khesipresents1885
@@ashly.8 I don't think HHH will ever build a new female star lol
@ ik but he should so the storylines won’t always consist of all the same people and again just in case a injury happens
The only thing that they can do is bring someone from nxt.
It’s obviously a work. They want to stretch the feud out to Wrestlemania and this would be the only way to do it
I think bianca should go to raw after the jade splitup and go after rhea and liv
After liv vs rhea feud, bianca should turn heel go after rhea ripley for the whc at summerslam. End the feud at next year wrestlemania.
I love Liv Dom and Raquel I’m so glad they took annoying Rhea out.
2:46 Iyo SKY! figure it out
She is the best in the business man or woman and should main event W.M and by the end of her career she will replace Moolah as the greatest female ever
People forget it's a work
could be, but doesn't seem like it
@@AssembleWrestlingi agree go watch when Reha head butt Liv Reha quckly grab her head Liv look like she dident know where she was
Nia should FORCE Tiffany to team up with her and cash in on the tag champs.
WWE needs to just have Liv Morgan win the fued with Ripley and move on to other women on Raw for her title
Maybe they get becky to come back from her time off.
Ya I made that suggestion in the video too
I’m all for long term storytelling, but this can be a disadvantage to it. This storyline was stretched way too long. Rhea should’ve just won the belt back. Stretching it out to wrestlemania or beyond is going to be hard. It leaves Damian stuck in the Judgement Day feud that he had already won. The rare HHH “L”.