How America’s richest donate their money

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  • @Mookle123
    @Mookle123 Рік тому +1949

    I personally HATE donations to univerities. Universities are already so predatory, and it was a pretty common sight to see a big, fancy, barely-used building with someone's name one it collecting dust.

    • @kekz0r
      @kekz0r Рік тому +180

      Donations to universitys should fund the books you need to complete a course. Not another library that nobody visits in this day and age.
      Granted, yes, library's are important. But which student in their right mind searches for a book when it's available as a searchable PDF online for free?

    • @ClickLikeAndSubscribe
      @ClickLikeAndSubscribe Рік тому +6

      Collecting dust and incurring maintenance, current and deferred.

    • @wchristian2000
      @wchristian2000 Рік тому +62

      Undergrad programs should be much much cheaper (if not free) but universities are also great places for innovative research to happen so I could see why a philanthropist would want to donate a university and have that donation go toward something like vaccine research

    • @DaveMcIroy
      @DaveMcIroy Рік тому

      US university are scams. What students are paying is sick.

    • @camipco
      @camipco Рік тому +55

      It depends a lot which university and what the money is earmarked for. Scott's donations, for example, were to HBCU's with no strings attached, which is very different from buying a building with your name on it at Harvard...

  • @e13kid
    @e13kid Рік тому +1095

    Shout out to that one guy who actually gave all his fortune away.

    • @foejmedia
      @foejmedia Рік тому +30

      shout out to the video itself

    • @baldassare5426
      @baldassare5426 Рік тому +28

      you couldnt even bother figure out his name from the video, so lazy

    • @e13kid
      @e13kid Рік тому +45

      @@baldassare5426 You’re really this desperate for some attention? So sad.

    • @ajay-pz1qd
      @ajay-pz1qd Рік тому +23

      Chuck Feeney

    • @FootballWarld
      @FootballWarld Рік тому

      ​@@baldassare5426truth teller🙋

  • @daviga1
    @daviga1 Рік тому +877

    Giving is not a equitable substitute for wages and taxes.

    • @Kareragirl
      @Kareragirl Рік тому +55

      Exactly. They wouldn't be where they are if they treated people with dignity and respect and didn't scam them out of money.

    • @KingJT80
      @KingJT80 Рік тому +26

      best summation of whats actually happening. i dont hate the actual billionaire person, just the system that made them billionaires

    • @kingace6186
      @kingace6186 Рік тому +14

      Giving should be an unconditional form of love, not a loophole to a corrupt system.

    • @llydrsn
      @llydrsn Рік тому +3

      There it is! 👏💯

    • @DrunkGuitarist
      @DrunkGuitarist Рік тому +5

      The existence of billionaires is failure of capitalism and our current economic system.

  • @hakeem_jc
    @hakeem_jc Рік тому +1044

    I slightly disagree with that last sentences. You really should tax billionaires more, yes, but you also need the government to have far more generous social spending to not need charity, which a lot of politicians (and voters) are going to fight, tooth and nail

    • @rysiskailepai
      @rysiskailepai Рік тому +6

      👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

    • @LucasOe
      @LucasOe Рік тому +93

      The last sentence never mentioned we should tax rich people more. They only said the problem wouldn't exist if the gap between rich and poor wasn't as big.

    • @SilentEire
      @SilentEire Рік тому +12

      Peoples kindness (charity) > Government

    • @TorBarstad
      @TorBarstad Рік тому +11

      @@LucasOe True. But less money would go to the poorest people in the world if e.g. the 100 richest people in the US were taxed more, and the video is deliberately not pointing out those sorts of observations I think.
      Although I give it credit for showing how such a large % of non-rich people's donations go to religion - hence at least somewhat conveying/suggesting (well, maybe not intentionally, I dunno) that if decisions about charity were made by people who are less smart on average the decisions will also be less smart on average.
      The video doesn't discuss % of money given to donations vs % spent on personal consumption. I guess we can guess why the video chose to not discuss that.

    • @yuehan6711
      @yuehan6711 Рік тому +41

      @@SilentEire Actually there was a study done that showed between countries the correlation between poverty reduction and charity spending was essentially 0 yet there was a positive correlation between social spending and poverty reduction. So you're empirically wrong.

  • @Sinaeb
    @Sinaeb Рік тому +449

    billionaires giving money means they have to pay less in taxes, as such, they can decide which things will not actually help people get out of poverty so they can stay richer

    • @Jonnnyyyy23
      @Jonnnyyyy23 Рік тому +46

      You assume that billionaires pay any tax whatsoever

    • @freethegays
      @freethegays Рік тому +8

      How about pay nothing in taxes...

    • @Sinaeb
      @Sinaeb Рік тому +17

      @@Jonnnyyyy23 I mean, that's one of the ways billionaires uses to avoid paying taxes

    • @MelbourneMeMe
      @MelbourneMeMe Рік тому +40

      It's much worse, they set up their own charities, donate money (tax deduct) and use those charities to donate money back to businesses they own or partly own...

    • @MelbourneMeMe
      @MelbourneMeMe Рік тому

      and if you really want to lose all faith in billionaires, just search youtube for: "Why There's No Such Thing as a Good Billionaire"...

  • @DPowered2
    @DPowered2 Рік тому +219

    Billionaires don't give out of kindness they give because they get more out of it for themselves and a defense against their actions because they have something to point to when you call them out

    • @Ookashay
      @Ookashay Рік тому +17

      So what... they're are still giving hundreds of billions to charity.

    • @DPowered2
      @DPowered2 Рік тому +30

      @@Ookashay But if they cause more in damages over all it doesn't matter. They give so they can get away with worse stuff and often times what they give money to is actually to themselves and charities they own so its technically not their money but they still spend it on themselves. Thats my point they give so people like you can say they did good so leave them be its better than nothing.

    • @RealNath
      @RealNath Рік тому +19

      ​​@@DPowered2 if billionaires don't donate their money, people would say they are greedy/evil. If they do, people would say the same. What on earth are they supposed to do then? Don't get rich?

    • @DPowered2
      @DPowered2 Рік тому +2

      @Real Nath 2 it's about why they donate you are focusing on surface level things which works for them because it means you won't question the wrong or harm caused by their over all actions

    • @RealNath
      @RealNath Рік тому +5

      ​​@@DPowered2 so they donated in order to get more out of it for themselves and a defense against their actions, like you said? On what base/proof did you make that assumption?

  • @malacki6554
    @malacki6554 Рік тому +356

    “Charity is a cold, grey loveless thing. If a rich man wants to help the poor, he should pay his taxes gladly, not dole out money at a whim.” Clement Attlee, former Prime Minister of the United Kingdom.

    • @NeilMalthus
      @NeilMalthus Рік тому +29

      We'd hardly need charity if the world wasn't overrun by greed and exploitation.

    • @e13kid
      @e13kid Рік тому +19

      The same United Kingdom that is currently privatising healthcare and cutting welfare funds?

    • @abhaymanoj3784
      @abhaymanoj3784 Рік тому +33

      @@e13kid thats why he said former prime minister

    • @e13kid
      @e13kid Рік тому +18

      @@abhaymanoj3784 My point isn’t that Clement is a bad guy my point is you could pay all your taxes and then a different party gets voted in that guts all the social safety net anyway. Private Charity is more protected from that. There’s pros and cons to both.

    • @xtopia9758
      @xtopia9758 Рік тому

      Attlee was a w Prime Minister

  • @goatmanx99
    @goatmanx99 Рік тому +516

    The standard deduction has increased a ton since 1990, so it makes sense middle income people are not itemizing their charitable deductions. You have to donate many thousands for it to be worth itemizing. I think charitable donations should be a separate tax deduction from the standard deduction, so that middle income people are encouraged to give. Also, making it so only liquid assets like cash are eligible to be deducted would remove many of the loopholes rich exploit, like donating art to museums to drive up the value of their collections. Normal people aren't donating many high value assets.
    Foundations also fund a lot of things we care about. Many social studies are funded by the Ford foundation, the MacArthur foundation previously gave a lot of money to nuclear disarmament. Having charitable organizations that can exist over the long term seems valuable for our society, so 5% annual giving seems reasonable. Though I do support only giving a deduction when funds are dispersed

    • @Hermes_Agoraeus
      @Hermes_Agoraeus Рік тому +31

      What if we instead solved the health and education problems associated with poverty by applying better governing policy paid for with a more progressive tax of wealth, especially billionaires?
      Relying on charity has gotten us here. I think we can do better.

    • @kiuk_kiks
      @kiuk_kiks Рік тому

      5% to be allocated to actual charity is laughable. It’s a slush fund and tax haven to park money. Billy Gates has bought up billions worth of stock in companies like apple by using his foundation as a tax free fund that’s way.

    • @kingace6186
      @kingace6186 Рік тому +5

      Interesting and well said.

    • @Random17Game
      @Random17Game Рік тому +7

      Not wanting to be the ultra billionaire advocate but this has to be said. Jeff Bezon donates 2.7 Billions and still gets criticized, I mean cmon its 2.7 Billion, how much is Vox donating, criticizing people for not donating enough is not the way even more when those donations are in the billions

    • @kiuk_kiks
      @kiuk_kiks Рік тому +21

      @@Random17Game
      Ok, ultra billionaire advocate 🤣

  • @joshnizzle
    @joshnizzle Рік тому +91

    Most of them give to charities that they are owners of.

    • @a141tho2
      @a141tho2 Рік тому +18

      Exactly. OR they give it to charities or foundation who "work" for them. They fund think tanks and media organisations through these charities who then lobby for and carry out reports benefeciary to these billionaires.
      There is a reason why popular Media and organisations avoid talking about human rights violations and exploitation in poorer parts of the world.

    • @middleagebrotips3454
      @middleagebrotips3454 Рік тому +3

      Left hand to right hand basically, broker their wealth power tax free.

  • @AvishaiTsur
    @AvishaiTsur Рік тому +484

    Isn't the lifetime giving as a percentage of wealth formula flipped?

    • @cc8530
      @cc8530 Рік тому +19

      who cares? how many would actually donate if it wasn’t a tax deduction; also who cares?

    • @SDinay
      @SDinay Рік тому +40

      Yep, it's definitely flipped. Had to scratch my head for a second there.

    • @RedGoobler
      @RedGoobler Рік тому +23

      Yeah, they messed up. It's only Vox so low expectations

    • @MonteCarloLeBron
      @MonteCarloLeBron Рік тому +27

      And they concluded that Warren Buffett gave 51,5 out of 106 and somehow that’s 33%. My guess is women did all the math.

    • @FlabbyPigLegs
      @FlabbyPigLegs Рік тому +11

      Also why are we adding their donation amount to their current net worth?

  • @mghbhgm7091
    @mghbhgm7091 Рік тому +21

    If this class keeps amassing more and more money, there IS no asking ourselves "what are we doing wrong here and how do we reverse this", because this class holds all the power. To go one step further, I'd argue that's already the case.

  • @alvinarakkal2433
    @alvinarakkal2433 Рік тому +129

    All I want from these billionaires is that rather than faking donation they properly pay their taxes which really helps the needy

    • @Vienic2
      @Vienic2 Рік тому +26

      where do you think those taxes are going bro?? theyre not going to poor people, theyre just going back to the goverment my guy

    • @pasta-and-heroin
      @pasta-and-heroin Рік тому +2

      @@Vienic2 they are though mate

    • @pasta-and-heroin
      @pasta-and-heroin Рік тому +3

      totally agree

    • @alvinarakkal2433
      @alvinarakkal2433 Рік тому +5

      @@Vienic2 who is setting up tax structures, economy and welfare of a country, it's government so when proper management of finance occur it reduces burden on poor government won't increase interest rates tax won't be increased, government would spend money on maintenance of infrastructure so basically it helps everyone

    • @Vienic2
      @Vienic2 Рік тому +5

      @@alvinarakkal2433 yes, you are correct, but what makes you assume that finance is being properly managed?

  • @TheOneCleanHippy
    @TheOneCleanHippy Рік тому +4

    People always wonder why the 50s-70s was such a golden time for the American economy. It's because we significantly taxed the rich and the corporations back then. Why is America in the toilet? Because we stopped taxing people who can actually afford to get taxed.

  • @garetr
    @garetr Рік тому +62

    2:13 - Let's take a moment to admire this absolute madlad, Chuck Feeney.
    Edit: And he made his donations in secret, too!

  • @anthonyfn
    @anthonyfn Рік тому +37

    I wonder how much more value you could extract from this money if they were taxed fairly, instead of waiting for them to give to charity.

    • @secularmonk5176
      @secularmonk5176 Рік тому +7

      Are you proposing that a government's bureaucracy uses funds more efficiently than a non-profit charity's bureaucracy would?

    • @anthonyfn
      @anthonyfn Рік тому +2

      @@secularmonk5176 have you seen the salaries of some "non-profit" executives and board members?

    • @gabbar51ngh
      @gabbar51ngh Рік тому +6

      They're taxed unfairly already. It needs to be lowered.

    • @martinp7459
      @martinp7459 Рік тому +4

      ​@@gabbar51ngh you'll never be a billionaire. No need to advocate for them bruh.

    • @gabbar51ngh
      @gabbar51ngh Рік тому +6

      @@martinp7459 Unlike you I am not jealous of other people's wealth. By your logic you shouldn't support for opposite sex's rights cause you would never be one.
      There's not any logic in your argument.

  • @MelbourneMeMe
    @MelbourneMeMe Рік тому +168

    Spoiler: they don't donate their money.

    • @sylviewalker7560
      @sylviewalker7560 Рік тому +2

      WHO...world health organization...say it ain't so!

    • @barriosma99
      @barriosma99 Місяць тому

      @@sylviewalker7560I disagree with you. I am from a low-income country and WHO gives us vaccines and subsidies for many public health initiatives

  • @HenryWinter786
    @HenryWinter786 Рік тому +346

    Imagine being rich like I could never

    • @thepicturemandannydannytho5711
      @thepicturemandannydannytho5711 Рік тому +3

      WHY NOT?

    • @ploiledetoamna
      @ploiledetoamna Рік тому +49

      @@thepicturemandannydannytho5711because most of the times it implies being a horrible himan being

    • @6000.
      @6000. Рік тому +15

      @@ploiledetoamna a horrible lucky human being*

    • @s_gnals
      @s_gnals Рік тому +12

      @@6000. its not entirely luck, (unless its crypto/ not) these guys had to atleast put some effort in

    • @rpishyao629
      @rpishyao629 Рік тому +1

      @@s_gnals if effort gets an abundant reward that's lucky enough.

  • @CozyJoney
    @CozyJoney Рік тому +8

    the commitment to philanthropy was carnage’s idea

  • @napoleonibonaparte7198
    @napoleonibonaparte7198 Рік тому +4

    Makes Michael Scott look more ethical with Scott's Tots.

  •  Рік тому +113

    The last sentence of the video is the one that really matters.

    • @z.ace.44
      @z.ace.44 Рік тому +3

      Yup, that sums up everything, I do not need to watch the whole video. Thanks ^^

    • @CarFreeSegnitz
      @CarFreeSegnitz Рік тому +13

      “…we wouldn’t have to depend on the charity of billionaires to begin with…”
      Or, “there shouldn’t be billionaires at all”.
      It’s a purely political decision. Billionaires are not inevitable or necessary, they’re permitted. The government could institute a far higher top marginal tax rate AND an annual wealth tax. Then would-be billionaires could choose to give their money to the gov’t or run their enterprises with a little less avarice. They could charge less for their products. Pay their workers more. Take direct responsibility for social and environmental harms of their enterprise.
      We could see corporations as entities to more efficiently meet the needs of people rather than purely profit-making machines.

    • @tidbit1877
      @tidbit1877 Рік тому +1

      @@CarFreeSegnitz The top marginal tax rate should be reduced to less than 25%; just use a progressive wealth tax on the rich and also count Capital gains as a form of income. If at all possible we should eliminate income tax altogether or at least for those making less than a million dollars a year.

    • @kingace6186
      @kingace6186 Рік тому +1

      @@CarFreeSegnitz That is not what they said. That is what you said.

    • @god-of-war-fan
      @god-of-war-fan Рік тому +1

      @@CarFreeSegnitz right, if only it was as simple as typing words eh?

  • @perpetualcollapse
    @perpetualcollapse Рік тому +24

    As someone once said “It’s about drive, it’s about power”

    • @3nnik
      @3nnik Рік тому

      ITS ABOUT DRIVE ITS ABOUT POWER

    • @zjean3417
      @zjean3417 Рік тому +1

      ​@@3nnik WE STAY HUNGRY WE DEVOUR

    • @3nnik
      @3nnik Рік тому

      @@zjean3417 PUT IN THE WORK, PUT IN THE HOURS AND TAKE WHAT'S OURS

  • @lachieuser2088
    @lachieuser2088 Рік тому +142

    the rich just keep getting richer and I'm here for it

    • @yourpapichulo8859
      @yourpapichulo8859 Рік тому +2

      Yes we are 💪🏼

    • @FunderDuck
      @FunderDuck Рік тому +9

      That isn’t necessarily a problem if the poor were getting richer as well.

    • @ploiledetoamna
      @ploiledetoamna Рік тому +34

      @@FunderDuckwhere do you think the money for the rich comes from?

    • @kettlejocksjr7771
      @kettlejocksjr7771 Рік тому +15

      @@ploiledetoamna the living standard of the poor today is higher than it was a few years ago. Everybody is getting richer.

    • @calengo454
      @calengo454 Рік тому +14

      ​@@kettlejocksjr7771 yes, but heavily unequal

  • @potatomatop9326
    @potatomatop9326 Рік тому +36

    How America's richest donate their money: they don't.

  • @DPowered2
    @DPowered2 Рік тому +49

    It says a lot that 1 rich person in america could literally solve all our problems but choose not to and are often the cause of the problems we have

    • @Munchausenification
      @Munchausenification Рік тому +6

      im not sure i follow? wouldnt a large donations of money from Bezos to everyone just cause hyperinflation? Maybe over time but all at once seems a bit reckless

    • @thomasmasseycontrereras8740
      @thomasmasseycontrereras8740 Рік тому +3

      It says alot that people expect people that have more than them to spend all their lifetime effort to fix everyone’s problem.
      Do you throw your life away to helping people?
      Most of these billionaires have been building wealth since 15 or 18 until 60-70-80
      Would you work yourself for example in cleaning garbage on all poor areas of your country cromosomas 15 to 60?

    • @abdulahad04
      @abdulahad04 Рік тому +11

      @@Munchausenification the money already exists. it won't cause inflation.

    • @Munchausenification
      @Munchausenification Рік тому

      @@abdulahad04 hmm okay now i'm not sure. Could you give me a reason to why it won't?

    • @donteattidepods
      @donteattidepods Рік тому +2

      That is just incorrect.

  • @1KJRoberts
    @1KJRoberts Рік тому +52

    Wow, this piece was informative & fascinating. Great work, Vox!

  • @Otis151
    @Otis151 Рік тому +47

    I like the manual approach to your charts in this video. Must have been a lot of work! But it looks great. Thanks for the great video, as always.

  • @jamesdurham5059
    @jamesdurham5059 Рік тому +24

    I think this video misses a key point, that donations to foundations and Donor Advised funds are completely irrecoverable. So yes, they can create some delay between the money being marked for charitable purposes and it actually being donated, but any money donated in this will always end up doing good, eventually at least

  • @maureenmona2636
    @maureenmona2636 Рік тому +1

    I pray to God this message touch someone's heart n help my family we need financial help for rent n food

  • @johnchessant3012
    @johnchessant3012 Рік тому +47

    My take has always been that charity is made necessary by the failure of the government; if the government did its job, charities wouldn't need to exist. That being said, this video brought up a point I hadn't considered. If such a huge fraction of charitable giving is done by a small number of wealthy people, then our stopgap solution is on shaky ground too. For a short-term fix, we should make charitable deductions separate from the standard deduction to encourage more middle-class donors (as was done under the CARES act in 2020 and 2021), and limit total charitable deductions to a reasonable amount to stop it from being a tax dodge for the rich.

    • @4kChannel
      @4kChannel Рік тому

      Your assumption is that the government is capable of doing its job instead of spending on military contracts. It’s too corrupt, charitable donations at least let you fund what you care about

  • @vodiact
    @vodiact Рік тому +1

    As inflation increases, minimum wage remains the same... this is the reason so many struggle to this day

  • @elementro101
    @elementro101 Рік тому +3

    This trend of using Arts n Crafts instead of back to back to back infographics is so much better

  • @thatundeadlegacy2985
    @thatundeadlegacy2985 Рік тому +1

    Charity has made TRILLIONS and the problems still persist,
    Thats the question we should be asking,
    Why arent you asking that instead?

  • @ElGuerreroMaya
    @ElGuerreroMaya Рік тому +18

    Adam Conover said it well "it's not billionaires who pay for these donations, it's the state"

    • @leonardoar1458
      @leonardoar1458 Рік тому

      100%! Tax deductions is literally shifting the decision making on how to spend govt money out of the hands of elected officials and into the hands of the wealthy. Sounds super democratic and not at all like an oligarchy...

  • @sabinandrei2807
    @sabinandrei2807 Рік тому +2

    Why would people criticize Jeff Bezos for not making enough donations? A donation is a generosity, not an obligation. People seem to forget that aspect. Sure, they take advantage of cracks in the system and get richer, but they were already rich before taking advantage of a system that they didn't implement. Policy makers have the authority to change how the rules work, but they don't. That's where the criticism should be directed instead.

    • @thebiggestcauldron
      @thebiggestcauldron Рік тому +1

      Except they _did_ implement the systems they're profiting from - by lobbying and by creating monopolies and eradicating competition with unfair and illegal practises.

  • @BatsiraiMusuka
    @BatsiraiMusuka Рік тому +97

    Fascinating. I’ve always wondered how this was rigged.
    I knew there was tax rebates but l didn’t know the actual mechanics and how billionaires played with this

    • @andrej2375
      @andrej2375 Рік тому +7

      It's not rigged. It just means if you give $1M to charity, you don't have to give any of that $1M to the IRS.

    • @tibographystudios
      @tibographystudios Рік тому +1

      Thank hiliary Clinton

    • @BatsiraiMusuka
      @BatsiraiMusuka Рік тому +2

      @@andrej2375 problem becomes someone choosing to release that $1m at a rate of $50000/m all the while they are making $1m/m

  • @BrokePhilanthropist
    @BrokePhilanthropist 13 годин тому

    The story about Chuck is amazing. Truly

  • @nyanyamero
    @nyanyamero Рік тому +76

    5% a year why is so low? What is this "foundation" doing with all those money? These foundations are literally another tax haven for the rich it seems. Its like "I'm helping you but not really" sike! 😆

    • @d0x2f
      @d0x2f Рік тому +25

      It generates income based on interest and investments. That way it's a continuous source of money instead of just a fixed value. All the money given to a foundation will end up in the hands of charities eventually. Sure the donors are reducing their tax by depositing into the foundations, but there's nothing wrong with that, the tax they would pay is going to the charities instead of the government,

    • @jeffersonclippership2588
      @jeffersonclippership2588 Рік тому

      ​@@d0x2f ok but anything more than 5% would generate even more interest than 5% by itself would. They could just give more but don't

    • @AndorranStairway
      @AndorranStairway Рік тому +6

      Nah. Heard of the Panama papers? There are a multitude of ways to avoid taxes without ever donating money to non-profits on charitable foundations. Billionaires are under no pressure whatsoever to donate. There are over 700 billionaires in the US alone, and you people think you’ve got it all figured out simply because you’ve heard of Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos

    • @ashcla
      @ashcla Рік тому +4

      ​@@d0x2f Yeah just to put a point on it, that model has allowed The Rockefeller Foundation to continue to distribute over a hundred million dollars *each year*, even after over 100 years of operation.

    • @justintran6872
      @justintran6872 Рік тому

      You don't understand the power of compound interest. A $10,000 donation in an index fund will grow to $52,000,000 in 80 years. It's not obvious but it would help the world a lot more if we could lower the minimum % foundations have to pay instead of increasing it to have a bigger net benefit.

  • @bixash
    @bixash Рік тому +2

    I don't get it, why everybody in comment is angry or jealous about billionaires, they earned, they deserved it.

    • @Arrakiz666
      @Arrakiz666 Рік тому +3

      Because they didn't earn it, is the thing.

    • @bixash
      @bixash Рік тому

      @@Arrakiz666 what, do you mean bill didn't invent microsoft or bezos didn't sell books from his garage or buffet didn't invest his money. they just did the work only difference is they got lucky, being mad at them doesn't make the difference.

    • @Arrakiz666
      @Arrakiz666 Рік тому

      @@bixash Bill invented Microsoft on his lonesome, in a tiny shed, did he? A throng of talented engineers and computer scientists didn’t help at all? And Jeff delivers all the guff himself like Santa, does he?

    • @bixash
      @bixash Рік тому

      @@Arrakiz666 Public companies have thousand of exceutives, managers, engineers, branches , employees, clerks, cooks, maintienance worker they also get benefits, jobs & paychecks. it's not that all the money goes to owners, since public traded companies have other normal stockholders too.
      Only stock market valuation makes them richer, not the tangible or physical assets.

  • @TheStrangeBloke
    @TheStrangeBloke Рік тому +10

    The chart at 5 minutes talks about deductions, but it would seem like the huge change in charitable tax deduction you see for below 200,000 in 2017/2018 would just be a result of people taking the standard deduction instead after the tax bill.

  • @dheerajj7496
    @dheerajj7496 Рік тому +2

    Last 10 seconds has a real meaning

  • @redflamelcd
    @redflamelcd Рік тому +22

    The most important fact of this video you relegated to literally the last dying seconds…

  • @Thebreakdownshow1
    @Thebreakdownshow1 Рік тому +53

    I had made a video similar to this 3 months ago and the biggest thing I realized is they use our tax money to pay these donations. Which is annoying cause they don't pay any taxes.

    • @electioninsight9158
      @electioninsight9158 Рік тому +2

      Not really. Billionaires only pay a 20% capital gains tax rate on income and they can only deduct what they donate. So, at best, you can claim that taxpayers pick up 20 percent of the tab. Even that is a stretch. Most of the time, a lot of these donations are for higher amounts than the amount of stock they would have sold. Therefore, the donations of billionaires go to improve lives instead of being held in the billionaire's stock portfolios where they do not do anything.. Finally, I saw recently that the demonized 1 percent pays 43 percent of the taxes in the United States, and over half of the country pays zero income taxes. So really, it's the rich subsidizing each other's charitable donations.

    • @aidandavis_
      @aidandavis_ Рік тому

      @@electioninsight9158 According to the American Institute of Economic Research, the 1% pays 37% of income taxes. That surprised me to be honest. I don't know how the deductions work, but at a guess I'd say that it isn't tied to billionaire income. This because billionaire income is so incredibly low as most of their wealth comes from investments, stocks or other assets. Donating half this wealth would be way more than they were ever paid in salary, and so the donation rules which give them tax deductions would only be worth it if there were different rules than the ones you noted. That said, you are right, although even among the 1% I'd argue it isn't fair for their tax dollars to be used to fund charities that billionaires decide on.

    • @olivierb9716
      @olivierb9716 Рік тому

      but, what part of wealth have this one %???@@electioninsight9158

    • @brosephbrown9069
      @brosephbrown9069 Рік тому

      @@electioninsight9158how does half the country pay zero income taxes when they’re checks are taxes before they get them ? And the top 1% owns 90% of the wealth so how is them paying 37% even enough? Lot of bootlicking going on here

  • @curiousworld7912
    @curiousworld7912 Рік тому +10

    It's very nice that some rich people give to charity, but they get to decide who, where, how much, how long - all kinds of caveats - that I find troubling. If they paid their fair share of taxes, we wouldn't need 'billionaire charity'. But, of course, if they were to pay their fair share of taxes, they wouldn't benefit from the tax system they've all but created. To quote former SC Justice, O. W. Holmes, 'Taxes are what we pay for civilized society'.

    • @AndorranStairway
      @AndorranStairway Рік тому +3

      When you say give to “charity”. What do you know about the charity? When I donate to “charity”, I like to know their structure, reputation, how they operate, and their effectiveness.
      So why shouldn’t they get to decide who where and how much? Are you suggesting that they should just toss their money into random charities without knowing how the money is utilised? And isn’t it their money in the first place?
      What a weird thing to be troubled by, that people decide how their funds are being used.

  • @jamaicangurl4u
    @jamaicangurl4u Рік тому +1

    If you have so much money you have to give it away....why not just pay your workers more?

  • @CarFreeSegnitz
    @CarFreeSegnitz Рік тому +38

    Even if philanthropy were completely above board AND actually for the good of the most people it is still a problem that a select, un-elected, un-accountable people have an oversized say on the direction of society.
    But we know that just below the philanthropic skin are donations which cement the giver’s place in society and will never threaten their wealth. And worse is how virtually all billionaire fortunes were made through ethically dubious if not outright illegal means which philanthropy is designed to whitewash.

    • @kencur9690
      @kencur9690 Рік тому +1

      Spot on.

    • @darkdragon5520
      @darkdragon5520 Рік тому

      Democracy in the workplace is what we need!

    • @CarFreeSegnitz
      @CarFreeSegnitz Рік тому

      @@darkdragon5520 Worker co-operatives. And just a couple of rule changes are needed to make them much more common.
      Before a business owner is allowed to sell or shutter a business a reasonable offer to the company’s workers has to be made.
      Some sort of bank rules that make financing a worker co-operative easier. I don’t know how it would work if it could work at all.

  • @TheRadioBunker
    @TheRadioBunker Рік тому +2

    I'm not sure when it became "my opinion of your money is you need to give it away" as standard. Personally it doesn't bother me if Jeff Bezos never gave $0.01 to anyone. He worked for his money and started a company. Just because he has a lof of something does not obligate him to give it to those less fortunate. While I understand a moral obligation to "do the right thing" the answer still remains that it is their own money and they can use it as they see fit regardless of the general public consensus.

    • @thebiggestcauldron
      @thebiggestcauldron Рік тому

      Except Bezos didn't "work for his money". Grand part of his profits is from monopolising the market, exploiting the sellers and exploiting the workers. It's not hard work to rip-off sellers who have no other choice in the market you monopolised.

    • @TheRadioBunker
      @TheRadioBunker Рік тому

      @@thebiggestcauldron Amazon didn't start off as a very large company. In fact they started selling books out of his garage. So I would say that he definitely work for his money. He also doesn't have a monopoly on anything. Many other companies sell online. Part of the problem with the world today is this "I don't have it so you can't" mentally and the "Rich keep getting richer," style comments. The rich do get richer. But instead of complaining about it you could just use the same tricks and do it yourself.
      The majority of Amazon's profits are generated by Amazon AWS. And the largest customers of AWS are corporations and government entities.

  • @thetrends5670
    @thetrends5670 Рік тому +8

    Ok, so where is everyone's favorite tech lord, Elon Musk?

    • @kartik_adhia
      @kartik_adhia Рік тому +1

      He got himself classified as a Martian. So he does not need to donate ;)

    • @kartik_adhia
      @kartik_adhia Рік тому

      @Zaydan Alfariz or maybe effectively no altruism? lol

  • @BlastingKyogre
    @BlastingKyogre Рік тому +9

    spoiler alert: they dont.

  • @njm543
    @njm543 Рік тому +3

    Once you put money in donor advised funds it’s no longer your money. Also, it’s great people are giving so much

    • @thebiggestcauldron
      @thebiggestcauldron Рік тому

      But thanks to donor-advised funds the tax returns you get _are_ yours.

    • @njm543
      @njm543 Рік тому +2

      @@thebiggestcauldron yea cause you donated the money. If you choose to donate the money today or the years from now it’s going to go to charity,so Iont see what the issue is if the money is going to charity eventually

    • @brosephbrown9069
      @brosephbrown9069 Рік тому

      @@njm543yea, with no real proof that it’s actually going anywhere

    • @phoneywheeze
      @phoneywheeze 10 місяців тому

      ​@@njm543what if the fund invests in a private company that does bankrupt ?

  • @yashvora3099
    @yashvora3099 Рік тому

    Signs of a billionaire: (At least 1 of these is present in all)
    1. Massively underpaying bottom-of-the-chain employees
    2. Evading taxes
    3. Leverage powerful emotions and destroy societies
    4. Lobbying
    5. Create problems that didn't exist and sell solutions ( P.S. solution is also a problem, creating a perpetual cycle)

  • @LeeNobody
    @LeeNobody Рік тому +15

    Its worth noting that tax benefits for charitable giving were raised in the 2017 tax reforms and the raising of the standard deduction. The chart if percentage of giving by income level over the years looks alot like people responded to the loss of tax advantages of charitable giving

  • @TheInternetIsDeadToMe
    @TheInternetIsDeadToMe Рік тому +1

    Nobody should be allowed get this rich. It’s sickening.

  • @justthecoolestdudeyo9446
    @justthecoolestdudeyo9446 Рік тому +4

    It got a brief mention, of donations being spent on private schools, but it should probably be explored in depth the degree to which some of this "charitable" activity is still done to advance a political agenda that ultimately benefits the donor. Anecdotally, I remember there being a critique of I believe the Gates Foundation that its biggest anti-poverty work was clustered in countries that provided the raw materials that Microsoft et al use, with the implicit or explicit threat of the charity being revoked if the governments involved didn't offer a good deal

    • @justthecoolestdudeyo9446
      @justthecoolestdudeyo9446 Рік тому

      All this to say, it's unclear that many of these donors are even benefiting with their contributions- or at least it's complicated.

  • @SimBol1216
    @SimBol1216 Рік тому +1

    Now do a video on US Federal government spending.
    Oh, that's an uncomfortable topic, isn't it? No one wants to admit that their taxes are going down the drain to ballooning entitlements and military spending. And you're telling me that that's not "undemocratic"? We don't get a say in that, and neither major party wants to address it.

  • @Otis151
    @Otis151 Рік тому +16

    I’m terms of the low annual payouts, could it be related to a point you made earlier in the video where the org may find thier donors back out and leave the org in peril? For example, if I spend 100% of my funds this year, and my donor backs out next year, my mission is toast. If I spread this years funds across 20 years, I can make a smaller but more sustainable impact.

  • @rahulshivaram1510
    @rahulshivaram1510 Рік тому

    Mistaken chart at 4:57, it doesn't account for inflation of dollars. In real terms, 200k USD in 1993 is equal to 358k USD in 2023 so you should index the threshold with inflation to allow the bands to be representative...

  • @sbtashetty1
    @sbtashetty1 Рік тому +4

    There's a typo in your title. I think you mean to say, "How America's richest avoid paying their fair share of taxes"

  • @DangerousKaos
    @DangerousKaos Рік тому +1

    It's wild that we basically don't need congress to fight our battles but billionaires. But it's sad that they can dictate what they consider an issue vs us, the people, have a say. So when we elect people for congress to do theatre, you got billionaires out here doing the work whether we agree with them or not. That's pretty messed up. So it's up to the billionaires if I get clean water or resolution for climate change. We need to solve the inequality that exists that even give them this type of power to begin with. Like make them give it away to only have a "livable" wage like the rest of us, and see how fast things change automatically.

  • @ilect1690
    @ilect1690 Рік тому +4

    i'f i had 10 billion dollars, i'd probably give 9 billion away because i have no clue what to do with all that money

  • @denelson83
    @denelson83 Рік тому

    They're not donations.
    They're just more _investments._

  • @nizammamba585
    @nizammamba585 Рік тому +3

    Vox is the best channel on UA-cam. Only Channel I have notifications on.
    The only channel I watch every single video. Every single video is perfect.

    • @ameridesign
      @ameridesign Рік тому +1

      For real? Some of their videos are mediocre or low quality.

    • @nizammamba585
      @nizammamba585 Рік тому

      @@ameridesign Which One?
      (and you do understand that is my personal opinion right? Could go wrong or right)

  • @boulderarchitect
    @boulderarchitect Рік тому +1

    The last sentence is key, we shouldn’t have wealth inequality like we do now.

  • @mehere8038
    @mehere8038 Рік тому +10

    I'd be interested in seeing how billionaires in other countries compare to the US ones. I have no idea what the results would be, but it would be interesting!
    Would also be interesting (although probably impossible to calculate) to see if other rich people would have personal wealth above people like Bezos if they paid wages to their employees consistent with what Bezos does. Ie, are billionaires in other countries, in some cases not as rich as those in the US, because they're giving to poor people through proper wages (& also through proper tax payments)?

  • @alxfts616
    @alxfts616 Рік тому +2

    I don't understand how Vox can be considered left-leaning if they routinely antagonize the poor... just read an article from Vox that basically supports raising taxes on the poor

  • @francescolimosani
    @francescolimosani Рік тому +9

    So this video complains about 50 rich people giving away a total of 191'000'000'000$ 🤔

    • @thebiggestcauldron
      @thebiggestcauldron Рік тому

      Simply talking about it isn't "complaining". Where is this video complaining?

    • @hyac1ntx
      @hyac1ntx 8 місяців тому

      and hey guess what? it did nothig! thats why we're "complaining"

  • @thatRyzzle
    @thatRyzzle Рік тому

    Humanity's greed for more never ceases to amaze and equally disgust me.

  • @salmay4266
    @salmay4266 Рік тому +3

    Poor people don't need money they need justice

  • @manasladdha4601
    @manasladdha4601 Рік тому +2

    I don’t think any of these individuals are entitled to give any of their hard earned money away. So, I don’t think people like Jeff Bezos should be under scrutiny or at the end of any criticism. If they are willingly doing so then yes sure such people should be commended and celebrated.

  • @TheLastScoot
    @TheLastScoot Рік тому +4

    How do donations to foundations enrich their donors? If you donate $100, the foundation gives $5 of that to charity each year for 20 years, and in exchange you don't pay, say, $45 of tax on that, you are not getting enriched! You are losing more than you would have if you had not donated!
    Even if that money just gets burned in a furnace, that isn't enriching the donor, it'd just be spiting the government.

  • @AdsaAdad
    @AdsaAdad Рік тому +1

    People in the comments probably living paycheck to paycheck and simping for billionaire is both entertaining and frightening

  • @katieakin9397
    @katieakin9397 Рік тому +5

    The important thing to remember is that “charities” don’t solve the issues wealth inequality creates. Charity is conditional based on the mission of each organization and many charities pay employees wealthy salaries while providing bandaid services. There’s a reason why billionaires are WILLING to do philanthropy: charity does nothing the terms through which they get to hoard resources. Taxing these people and providing universal services would create actual improvement.

  • @sbfrazelle
    @sbfrazelle Рік тому

    This is brilliant reporting, well done.

  • @GD-mw1kd
    @GD-mw1kd Рік тому +19

    Capitalism leads to socio-economic inequality. Live the American dream and at some point of time you would realise you have far far more than you need, some would come forward with philanthropic give aways. And many will accept these give aways without any problem. So basically give away are okay, but basic communism is not acceptable. Rather you should have some framework for basic needs like health, education, employment.

    • @balsarmy
      @balsarmy Рік тому +2

      That's not capitalism, that's human nature.

    • @Munchausenification
      @Munchausenification Рік тому +3

      Any kind of ownership system can and probably will lead to inequality. For example, if everyone was given the same amount of land some of it would be comparatively better than others. Some of it would be fertile, other plots of land would be in a better location for housing, trade etc.
      But im ready to concede to a better argument

  • @ElBayadKhalil
    @ElBayadKhalil Рік тому +1

    It's not about philantropy in the majority of the cases, it's about buying influence.

  • @SachinKodate
    @SachinKodate Рік тому +2

    The amount calculated as a charity donation needs to account for the tax benefits received by the individual. If I give $10 to receive a tax benefit of $4 the effective donation is $6 since the $4 dollars is back in their pockets. If this is done I'm sure these percentages will come down significantly.
    Also the tax benefits the individual receives should be calculated based on the effective tax rate charged to them considering their source of income. It makes no sense to give an individual a 30-40% tax benefit when they just pay taxes at a rate of 10-18% or lesser.

  • @sameerhussain2579
    @sameerhussain2579 Рік тому +1

    Charity and generosity are two different things, right?

  • @AnnaKrueger809
    @AnnaKrueger809 Рік тому +4

    Thanks bud for keepin us financially Educated!
    Regardless of how bad it gets on the economy

  • @thiagolucas893
    @thiagolucas893 Рік тому +1

    I think charitable donations shouldn't be tax-deductible at all.

  • @circuloviciosamente
    @circuloviciosamente Рік тому +2

    Microsoft donates the Office Suite accounting the market price but it only cost the cd and boxes. Tax discount here is a profit actually.

  • @tay012
    @tay012 Рік тому +1

    Donations are not considered taxable income. Taxes can go to fund the things that we as a community decide are important.
    Donors get to avoid contributing to that and instead fund what they find important.
    Which gives large some donors, a power that no other individual has.

  • @manavmishra9071
    @manavmishra9071 Рік тому +9

    I want to earn like Warren Buffet and spend like Bill Gates.

    • @nettieharris
      @nettieharris Рік тому +2

      So do us all. Giving feels hella great!

    • @bremcurt9514
      @bremcurt9514 Рік тому +1

      @@nettieharris Yeah it makes you look good while not fundamentally changing anything, so you can keep being rich!

    • @AndorranStairway
      @AndorranStairway Рік тому +2

      Thing is, the stock market is open for everyone and anyone to use. Anyone can start putting regular amounts of money into an ETF or index fund instead of leaving their money in the bank to do nothing. The problem is most people either can’t be bothered to learn, or are far too impatient and expect to get 10x returns on their investments.
      You want to earn like Buffett? Then pick up some finance books; it’s far from rocket science

  • @teemitapparels675
    @teemitapparels675 Рік тому +2

    $26,000 in just two weeks, Mr STEVEN DANIELis amazing. Good people still exist.

    • @adexsonia
      @adexsonia Рік тому

      Wow, Mr. STEVEN DANIEL has been running my trade for months and I continue to make a profit every week. I made "$17,240 last week too

  • @vinceb8041
    @vinceb8041 Рік тому +9

    Bezos really plays his part well, there is not much he could do to be more despicable

    • @gabbar51ngh
      @gabbar51ngh Рік тому +4

      Bruh, it's his money. He's not obligated to donate. He's not doing anything wrong.

    • @gabbar51ngh
      @gabbar51ngh Рік тому +3

      @@SigFigNewton His workers should learn to live within their means. Also expensive healthcare is more of government's fault.

    • @gabbar51ngh
      @gabbar51ngh Рік тому +1

      @@SigFigNewton first of all wealth isn't a zero sum game neither wealth inequality equates to poverty.

    • @brosephbrown9069
      @brosephbrown9069 Рік тому

      @@gabbar51nghkinda of hard to live within your means when the standard of living is constantly increasing, his profits and constantly increasing, but they’re pay is not. But I guess they should just “work harder”

    • @brosephbrown9069
      @brosephbrown9069 Рік тому

      @@gabbar51nghit actually does. 600 people holding 90% of the wealth literally takes money out of everyone else’s pockets

  • @alexcoaym
    @alexcoaym Рік тому +1

    Every billionaire is a policy failure.

  • @wonderfulvector
    @wonderfulvector Рік тому +4

    I don't blame Jeff he doesn't need to give a dime to any charity

  • @trillionbones89
    @trillionbones89 Рік тому +2

    The "a lot of good" usually is only to cover the bad things: tax evasion, funding of political groups, branding, etc.

  • @thomasmasseycontrereras8740
    @thomasmasseycontrereras8740 Рік тому +9

    Why people expect millionaires to throw away 50% of their work lifetime for free and solve “World” problems but almost none of the ones who expect it are willing to even give 3 years of their lifetime for charitable causes?
    Its a verter excuse to make a millionaire give away what he spent 20 years building than we fixing OUR problems.

    • @kencur9690
      @kencur9690 Рік тому +9

      Only most of our problems are because of them. Do you even think about that things you say? How can people give away 3 years of their lifetime, when they are living paycheck to paycheck? How can they when they can’t even keep up with expenses? When each year is vital for their very existence? That’s the point here: these billionaires can stop working for more than 3 years... meanwhile most people can’t even take a vacation. And then you come along and compare the two as if they are comparable.

    • @bremcurt9514
      @bremcurt9514 Рік тому

      Hahaha, dude you're such a bootlicker.
      Who do you think spends 20+ years in their factories?

    • @thomasmasseycontrereras8740
      @thomasmasseycontrereras8740 Рік тому

      @@bremcurt9514 Not a bootlicker, are you spending atleast one year in charity? You lazy? Do you really care? Is your defense mechanism attacking someone when you somehow feel its personal towards you?

    • @thomasmasseycontrereras8740
      @thomasmasseycontrereras8740 Рік тому +1

      @@kencur9690 Guys are expecting to them to give up wealth that took 25 years to build and cant even spend 1 month of social work,

    • @thomasmasseycontrereras8740
      @thomasmasseycontrereras8740 Рік тому

      @@kencur9690 Also do you realize most people have a bad situation not because of their paycheck? There are millions of people with the same paycheck but having different life quality.
      I know personally plenty of people with x4 paychecks than others with more financial problems than the other guys I know, financial decisions in western society are most of the origins of the problems.
      Most people buy more than what they need and humanity has needed for long time now.
      People buy branded clothing even small brands, which dont last to much and that adds up in 15 years.
      Same with the type of food people eat, type of car, type of phone, accesories.
      Ive known 100+ “Poor people” which I discovered their expenses are too high.

  • @User26352
    @User26352 Рік тому

    This series isn't the same without Johnny Harris

  • @fyzxnerd
    @fyzxnerd Рік тому +6

    The word "Billionaire" is a synonym for "Psychopath."

  • @alchapo8668
    @alchapo8668 5 місяців тому

    Why do people feel these rich people are obligated to give money. They can do what they want with what they've earned.

  • @balsarmy
    @balsarmy Рік тому +5

    They can stay rich as long as there are opportunities for other people to reach their small dreams

    • @kencur9690
      @kencur9690 Рік тому +2

      Why should some people have big dreams and other small dreams? I mean, do we all begin life on the exact same footing and then, through sheer hard work, achieve our dreams? Cause then I’m ok with different sized dreams.

  • @pieterspruijt2
    @pieterspruijt2 Рік тому +2

    5:00 America has gotten a lot richer over the years with more millionaires so it's a deceptive chart it's percentage...

  • @thomassmith1148
    @thomassmith1148 Рік тому +4

    Why not frame it like...
    Look at all the good things these people have done and, let's also assume, that they know how to distribute money better than us plebs with no money.
    Edit - Why call for re-distribution?

  • @HyoJinLee-m1o
    @HyoJinLee-m1o Рік тому

    Thank you so much for this video!!

  • @mr.halfbloodprince394
    @mr.halfbloodprince394 Рік тому +10

    I can't find Elon Musk here?!

  • @freddieanniss3533
    @freddieanniss3533 Рік тому

    7:08-7:49 I'm sorry if some people feel this is undemocratic, but just because a very rich man said 'Lets fix this problem' doesn't mean he had an agenda for doing so.

  • @petrtsesavets24
    @petrtsesavets24 Рік тому +4

    When it’s 5am and Vox uploads:

  • @hannibalbarko8748
    @hannibalbarko8748 Рік тому +1

    "They Donate their money through their TRUSTS foundation's which will be used by their future heirs and family under the name of PHILANTHROPY" 😂😂😅

  • @zapfanzapfan
    @zapfanzapfan Рік тому +1

    Blue Origin is Jeffs charity...

  • @jacobcooney1715
    @jacobcooney1715 Рік тому +12

    The explanation of tax deduction is beyond disingenuous. That is not how tax deduction works, nobody is making money or "lowering their taxes" by giving away their money and receiving a deduction.

    • @Laroac
      @Laroac Рік тому +9

      of course it does, donating literally lowers your taxes

    • @danycashking
      @danycashking Рік тому +9

      Yes they do, because net worth is not cash they have in the bank. Almost all billionaires have the majority of their wealth in stocks or other illiquid assets. It's not the income they use daily, and if they would cash those out they would have to pay taxes on them anyways. If you can donate them you can claim a tax deduction elsewhere where it would more directly benefit you or at least be more profitable than what you would have lost to taxes if you had cashed it in directly.

    • @kencur9690
      @kencur9690 Рік тому +1

      Jacob, you’re the typical muppet who doesn’t understand how the world works, thinks he understands it perfectly, and because of his ignorant misunderstanding all the problems are swept under the carpet.
      The problem is that you’re in good company. That’s why the rest of us who ventured out of the cave end up suffering.