The England team is getting better with ever match.They put the Springboks under a lot of pressure.Now is not the time to not support them or sack the coach.Well played England.From a Bok fan who knows rugby.
England put a good show against the world champions and NZ, but when you loss your two best coaches from the England set up we will not win these difficult games. England lost these games because Borthwick is unable to hang on to his best staff.
If you look at England's recent results, they are all pretty close, and there are a couple where the scoreboard doesn't give a fair reflection of how well England played on the park....pretty certain a time will come soon where something will just click and the final piece of the puzzle in fall into place.....England are much better and have played much better than the results suggest at the moment.....as a Springbok fan we have been in this very situation.....
The temptation is always to look at the outcome as a W or a L. But, there are many processes involved in getting to the W. THAT is what they are working on; trust them
What a ridiculous thing to say of course winning is the most important thing . This team has lost 7 of the last 9 games everyone is talking about wales being bad this is right up there. They have great players they have a truly bad coach…
The Allblacks were in a similar situation Part of the learning process.Your group leaders need to critique and make improvements. Go on tour to develop your team.
SA were down to 14 men! SB and his coaches will never win a WC! England are going backwards/sliding down world rankings! 50% win rate( think one win against big teams!) RFU need a change now, get Shaun edwards in now! SB calls/selections/ tactics are never going to work!! We are wasting time and talent! We not close to aiming for the WC in3 years.
Just my view, Eng give the ball up to cheaply. Plenty of skill, just lacking maybe on the carry. Just give it up to easy. It was a solid Eng performance, but there is a a lot more there for sure. Cherish the pill.
What pace does your team have. The snails were overtaking freeman and other backs. Jamie george crying to the ref for help. He does nothing on the pitch. Englands best player on the night was the ref
If other teams can get it right most of the time, you should be able to do so too. But you've now lost five in a row with a largely settled team. In the mean time, from last weekend's match against Scotland, the Boks made 12 changes for today's game. They were much more unsettled than England and therefore not even close to their best. England is not progressing at all. Perhaps it's time to just admit it.
Same old Borthwick excuses rolled out after every single abject performance. Borthwick is just beyond tedious & full of lame, baseless excuses by the clueless international coach who should just be a club rugby coach. Only Borthwick can consistently turn this crop of quality elite, talented, skilled, rapid, powerful athletes into losers. Borthwick has to go, sack the muppet. He has had more than enough chances over two years of substandard performances. New Zealand, Australia & the Boks were all there for the taking at home in Twickenham! Borthwick with his awful below par coaching, failure to select the perfect squad, misuse of the bench, poorly timed replacements etc.
Total rubbish, rugby is a buiness now and on performance changes must happen asap. Not acceptable in this professional sport. Sacking is required across the board.
Before I start my message, I give ALL the Glory to the Only Lord Jesus Christ Who is God and His Holy Ghost 🙌🏿 ✝️ 🧎🏽 If I were an England supporter (I'm south african) I'd be very happy with the game and the coach! Top game, boys.
Jesus is in the garden, all alone, talking to God (himself)...and someone, who wasn't there, writes what was said. 🤔Rugby just makes so much more sense.
1. England not imaginative enough in attack, they had enough chances to win that game and fluffed them. every time they were in the SA 22 it ended up in a SA penalty. other than that they dominated the game, but not clinical enough. 2. the ref was terrible. multiple 'warnings' for SA without a card, disallowed england try for no reason, SA try after a charge down when etzebeth was offside; he clearly had an agenda for SA to win 3. SA team are freaks of nature, the forwards are absolutely huge and the 9, 11, 14 are rapid. they deserved to lose today, as they do in most matches, but their size and pace (and the ref) carried them over the line. 4. the mighty ABs own the dirty saffas. they forever in our shadow. 🇳🇿
The England team is getting better with ever match.They put the Springboks under a lot of pressure.Now is not the time to not support them or sack the coach.Well played England.From a Bok fan who knows rugby.
The coach has had two years. He should have put together a winning team by now
England put a good show against the world champions and NZ, but when you loss your two best coaches from the England set up we will not win these difficult games. England lost these games because Borthwick is unable to hang on to his best staff.
Small margins is correct but we need to learn from defeats and not keep doing the same things
He’s had 2 years
They lost against the best team in the world by 9 points. What is the point of changing the coach at this time? The six nations will be interesting
Change the RFU governing board!
If you look at England's recent results, they are all pretty close, and there are a couple where the scoreboard doesn't give a fair reflection of how well England played on the park....pretty certain a time will come soon where something will just click and the final piece of the puzzle in fall into place.....England are much better and have played much better than the results suggest at the moment.....as a Springbok fan we have been in this very situation.....
Coach Steve Bothwick has had two seasons to gel a winning team and yet he’s won nothing. Sorry but it’s time this man stepped down or sacked
Sack the Muppet. Same old waffle post every match.
Get rid of your coach. SIMPLE.
The temptation is always to look at the outcome as a W or a L. But, there are many processes involved in getting to the W. THAT is what they are working on; trust them
lol. Are you’ve Steve’s Dad?
You live in a dream world.
Processes are worked on during the week. W on matchdays. L's are for first losers.
What a ridiculous thing to say of course winning is the most important thing . This team has lost 7 of the last 9 games everyone is talking about wales being bad this is right up there. They have great players they have a truly bad coach…
It doesn’t take you two years to win a match
The Allblacks were in a similar situation Part of the learning process.Your group leaders need to critique and make improvements. Go on tour to develop your team.
The difference is they have a world class coach.
LoL. All blacks just lost again. No depth in eng squad. Dan Cole still playing.
We’ll done England you turned up to play
And still lost
@ cmon mate they didn’t give up like they have in the past
@@deantairi8357so they didn’t give up but were really bad in the last 20 minutes its now called not giving up 😂😂😂
@@davidwalker2402 better than their two previous games
@ it wasn’t they never looked like beating SA, the changes JVP and steward were appalling, this coach is no good and that I’m afraid won’t change.
SA were down to 14 men! SB and his coaches will never win a WC! England are going backwards/sliding down world rankings! 50% win rate( think one win against big teams!) RFU need a change now, get Shaun edwards in now! SB calls/selections/ tactics are never going to work!! We are wasting time and talent! We not close to aiming for the WC in3 years.
SA did just about everything they could to give England a chance to win that and they couldn't. England fall apart in the last quarter. Again.
S Edwards the next England Manager! Recognise who we English are! Tough, hard, strong, fighters! It’ll never happen but it F should!
Andy Farrell (now stepped down from Ireland for Lions tour) with Shaun Edwards as his 2IC! Bring both elite English coaches in!
Excuses are like a-holes…. everyones got one. And this england team has loads of them. All this BS about “development” … takes the fans as fools
He’s had two years. How much more time does Bothwick want
You don't need to keep doing press conference's just play the same one on loop 😢😢
Billy V must return as captain. Mako also.
Keep saying the same things over and over. Lol. Japan to win by 5 next week
Surely england can't lose to Japan 😅
Just my view, Eng give the ball up to cheaply. Plenty of skill, just lacking maybe on the carry. Just give it up to easy. It was a solid Eng performance, but there is a a lot more there for sure. Cherish the pill.
game management and mindset Two key areas where England must improve
Could have should have would have won it. You were never in a position to win the game. ❤
You playing on the world stage you chop. Every team you play is a good team. Never looked dangerous at all
He pulled a Kamala on that last question!! 😂
Look at the players SA have atm and the players England have atm - what do people expect?!
Not being fair to coach and team here, it was a very good match where England looked dangerous all the way through
What pace does your team have. The snails were overtaking freeman and other backs. Jamie george crying to the ref for help. He does nothing on the pitch. Englands best player on the night was the ref
How Steve let go of Phil Jones is what is wrong with England rugby
Blaming it on 'small lapses' is blaming the players.
These aren't one off errors, the team is consistently not performing to their potential.
They have to win the six nations and the grand slam, that will show progress.
But they won’t unfortunately
Surely time to recall Albert Tatlock.
A lose is a lose.
If other teams can get it right most of the time, you should be able to do so too. But you've now lost five in a row with a largely settled team. In the mean time, from last weekend's match against Scotland, the Boks made 12 changes for today's game. They were much more unsettled than England and therefore not even close to their best. England is not progressing at all. Perhaps it's time to just admit it.
He had 2 years to get it right
😊Again, a loss, when are we going to get a Win? I doubt against Japan tbh.
Same old Borthwick excuses rolled out after every single abject performance. Borthwick is just beyond tedious & full of lame, baseless excuses by the clueless international coach who should just be a club rugby coach.
Only Borthwick can consistently turn this crop of quality elite, talented, skilled, rapid, powerful athletes into losers. Borthwick has to go, sack the muppet. He has had more than enough chances over two years of substandard performances.
New Zealand, Australia & the Boks were all there for the taking at home in Twickenham! Borthwick with his awful below par coaching, failure to select the perfect squad, misuse of the bench, poorly timed replacements etc.
Whats the point having ford on the bench when he was never going to play. A tired team and two subs not used more bad decisions by a ridiculous coach.
More excuses…
Total rubbish, rugby is a buiness now and on performance changes must happen asap.
Not acceptable in this professional sport.
Sacking is required across the board.
Steve Borthwick is doing a good job. The Springboks are a briliant team. Don't panic I see this team doing very well in the 6 nations.
He’s been in the job for two years . That is long enough to get a winning team
Is woke an issue with the English team? Just do it
Lol too many private schoolboys ..
Where? And how do the comprehensive schools make our football team so good? We need to tap into Marxism for this.
Pipe down chippy
Before I start my message, I give ALL the Glory to the Only Lord Jesus Christ Who is God and His Holy Ghost 🙌🏿 ✝️ 🧎🏽
If I were an England supporter (I'm south african) I'd be very happy with the game and the coach! Top game, boys.
Jesus is in the garden, all alone, talking to God (himself)...and someone, who wasn't there, writes what was said. 🤔Rugby just makes so much more sense.
Verble shit 😂
1. England not imaginative enough in attack, they had enough chances to win that game and fluffed them. every time they were in the SA 22 it ended up in a SA penalty. other than that they dominated the game, but not clinical enough.
2. the ref was terrible. multiple 'warnings' for SA without a card, disallowed england try for no reason, SA try after a charge down when etzebeth was offside; he clearly had an agenda for SA to win
3. SA team are freaks of nature, the forwards are absolutely huge and the 9, 11, 14 are rapid. they deserved to lose today, as they do in most matches, but their size and pace (and the ref) carried them over the line.
4. the mighty ABs own the dirty saffas. they forever in our shadow. 🇳🇿
What a lot of nonsense. Get over yourself
@@elizehauptfleisch7542 😴 😴 cry more
Stop smoking your socks, your sheep is waiting for you in the backyard, do what you do well 🙄
Keep saying the same things over and over. Lol. Japan to win by 5 next week