In tense moments like this, you reveal who you really are. It was very unfortunate for mr. Lichtman, how it happened in such a public manner for him, and now we all know.
cenk was right about most every part of this election. from biden needing to go, to it being wrong that harris was anoynted and that she was still gona lose due to her right wing shift of going along with a genocide and running around with people like the cheneys. yall just dont like the messangers message.
@@superduper2521 "I will not stand for personal attacks, for blasphemy against me" Imagine being so deranged that you use the words "blasphemy against me" rofl
he just says what is popular, the rep won, so he parrots what the winner side says. he is still a democrat who wishes the dems were like the republicans, with integrity.
@@technoloverish His 'record' is stating the obvious. Everyone else knew who would win also, without the need for any so called keys. He's an arrogant quack, now get over it.
@@technoloverish It's his pompous out-of-touch attitude that gets under people's skin. Elites like this are why Democrats lost. Long gone are the Bill Clinton "Bubba" Democrats.
Exactly his 13 keys are actually a decent model to predict elections but several if not all of them are extremely subjective and he wasn’t able to accurately apply his model due to his inherent bias against Trump
When he said blasphemy against me, I knew Lichtman was an insane, crazy person. He has a book to sell every 4 years so I understand why he gets defensive but he refuses to accept he was wrong even in the Bush Vs Gore race. Its time to cancel this guy, we don't need more people with a God complex on TV.
Lichtman has gotten 9/11 election predictions correct, which is a far better track record than most of the people criticizing him, including Cenk. What he does need to do is stop rationalizing his misses as wins with extra steps. And if he thinks misinformation is a major factor in the election outcome, explicitly update that in his model. Make it a 14th key if you have to.
Perhaps he does, but I find it largely irrelevant. His keys should stand on their own merits. Robby's personal animosity toward Lichtman, dismissing his forecasts as equivalent to coin flips when Lichtman was correct 6 (arguably 7) of 8 times, highlights how personal bias can blind one to plain facts. Lichtman himself is not immune to this, of course. As another commenter states Kim Iverson used his own keys to predict T's victory.
@@liuj88That is not a particularly strong predictive records. The 2016 prediction is the only one that has any merit over and above basic polling. The main criticism is that the keys are essentially qualitative, so have little value in themselves, only as an aid to general interpretation (which many do successfully anyway).
@@liuj88 - His "keys" are so subjective as to be worthless. One can use them to make the case for either candidate in most elections. What should stand *or fall* on its own merit *or lack thereof* is his predictions.... And this record actually isn't very impressive, when one scratches below the surface just a bit....As Robby pointed out, the total sample size that we're working with is rather small. Since he created the system in 1981, there have been just 11 total presidential elections, and only a few of those were relatively close. With most of them, anyone could have easily predicted, just by looking at the polls a month or two before Election Day. And with the three or four close ones, his record isn't really any better than someone flipping a coin.
Lichtman rather defends his keys by saying it was Racism and sexism then maybe saying it was him being too biased and not using his own keys correctly, because if u read those keys there is a big case here that Trump wins according to the keys if used with less bias.
Agreed. I watched a video of him going over the keys abd had Trump winning a lot more keys than Harris. I think he let his bias show tremendously and it affected his judgment
Wiggy Lichtman bestowing god-like status on himself...talk about cranking the sneering elitism up to 11! When Cenk pulled out his key ring and started rattling it while Wiggy was speaking, I lost it!
@@EarthenGames He also does an Irish podcast called The Stand with Eamon Dunphy that's very informative. Reasonably sane with no hysterics. This is all relative of course. I'm using Piers Morgan as the nadir metric of tabloid sensationalism dressed up as journalism.
Actually, I think the problem was less the keys and more Allan desperately wanting Harris to win. If he had interpreted the keys correctly, it would have shown a Trump win.
I agree for instance two of his keys deals with short and long term economy. He had both down as positive for Harris but it's about perceived performance not that which is written down. It was obvious many Americans were not happy with the current state of the economy so those two should have been negative and with those two negative his system would have shown Trump being the victor. This is why it's so important to be objective in such matters because once personal feelings enter the equation the chance of getting false results increases.
That's the way I saw it, too. If he just took his emotions out of it his keys would've predicted a Trump landsline, and his streak would've remained intact.
@@PoliticsAndPunches - Yes and no...The problem is though that most of his "keys" are quite subjective, so one can use them to make the case that either candidate would win, in most elections.
@@KonigGustavAdolph "He just wasn't wrong about the raison d'être." You mean that Biden couldn't win? We know it's true in the timeline where Biden makes verbal mistakes every other word. Whereas his mental decline was not yet apparent when Cenk made that proclamation. Instead, his main selling point was "can't win 'cause Gaza genocide", which did not seem to be a top 5 reason for the loss.
I went through his latest version of his keys, trying to use whatever criteria he had, and I found 6 keys that were false. The keys are a good indicator of who has the best chance to win. Lichtman allowed his TDS to get in the way of any objectivity
I think his keys are correct. How he used them, I disagreed on. I think he did not foresee the consumption of political media of most people has shifted to online because of the pandemic as opposed to 2020 and before. He probably still consumed media through traditional means which is why his analysis is the way it is. IMO, that was his flaw but he's too arrogant to admit it.
The thing that stood out most to me was Lichtman is a professor he has to know what "blasphemy" means...these people literally worship themselves and each other. Liberalism is religion for godless Democrats make no mistake.
On that segment Lichtman said he has been a professor for 50 years! That's his problem, stuck in academia for so long he has forgotten how the real world works.
Allan Lichtman is pretty delusional. He cannot admit that his thirteen keys failed the test this year. I don't think that anyone is going to be interested in his predictions in the future. Excuses, excuses. Bad look Al!
Look, i am no fan of cenk ugyur but it would be a mistske for alan lichtman to challenge cenk ugyur to a fistfight. i'm sorry but i see alan lichtman getting his clock cleaned in that scenario
When you first look at this it seems like Cenk is being really rude, which he is. But when you hear the delusional comments from Lichman before this clip, he kinda deserves it.
My favorite was when Lichtman declared it "blasphemy against me".
I declare Alan Lichtman the god of hubris.
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That jumped out to me too
In tense moments like this, you reveal who you really are. It was very unfortunate for mr. Lichtman, how it happened in such a public manner for him, and now we all know.
That was wild
When he said that Cenk said "who are you Jesus?"
When Cenk is the least unhinged on a panel, get your popcorn ready!
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Piers is the new Jerry Springer show. It's amazing. I just wish it was recorded live in studio vs over zoom.
Crazy when the young turks are the only ones living in reality among the left
@@Suliz-k7lindeed 😂😂
Right? LOL
When you get dunked on by Cenk it's time to pack it in
Cenk has always been pretty good against the Democratic Party, hitting Clinton and Biden. He was a Bernie guy.
cenk was right about most every part of this election. from biden needing to go, to it being wrong that harris was anoynted and that she was still gona lose due to her right wing shift of going along with a genocide and running around with people like the cheneys. yall just dont like the messangers message.
OF COOOUURRSSSEEE!!! 😂😂😂
lol .... literally pronounced 'a Chunk Dunk!' ... hee he
Cenk ENDED Lichtman's political career. That "Key Waving" is absolutely viral right now. 😂😂😂😂😂
THOU SHALL NOT BLASPHEME THE KEYMASTER
HERETIC! ALL SHOULD FOLLOW THE KEY-MASTER!
HE WHO SPEAKETH TO THY PROFESSOR SUCH WAY, WILL BE PUNISHED BY HE WHO WALKETH BEHIND THE ROWS!
"I wrote 13 books!!". 😂😂😂😂😂
That was hilarious. I'm pretty sure Dr. Seuss wrote more books, and I take Seuss's work way more seriously.
Hungry caterpillar is more useful, I guess?😂
L. Ron Hubbard (Scientology founder) wrote over 230 books.
stole this comment but it has to be said
"Dr. Suess wrote way more than that"
@@allhailinternalcombustion That’s crazy you posted this. I had that exact same thought with Dr. Seuss as my example.
1:55 “for blasphemy against me”. In the full clip, Cenk responded with “do you think you’re Jesus?”😂
I’m starting to warm up to cenk.
@ I feel like he’s going to leave the democratic party to become independent like most sane people
@@texicanjc yeah that’s what I’ve been doing the last 10 years. It’s been a long deprogramming.
@ it’s nice to be independent, we’re able to criticize both sides without being blinded by bias
@ it changed for me when I started to view The real issue is not Democrat versus Republican, but of elite versus everybody else.
“No I wasn’t wrong!” Is WILD 😭
He wasn't wrong. The voters were. Priceless 😂
@ it’s insane how someone can say that so confidently
@@superduper2521 "I will not stand for personal attacks, for blasphemy against me"
Imagine being so deranged that you use the words "blasphemy against me" rofl
@@damiang888 that Jesus Christ line Cenk hit em with was Cenks best work since his entry into media
@@superduper2521 Do you think he brought up Jesus Christ specifically on purpose? Because... You know, Lichtman?
I *hate* how much I like Cenk now...
I'm starting to like him!
Don't say that.
That's scary.
he just says what is popular, the rep won, so he parrots what the winner side says. he is still a democrat who wishes the dems were like the republicans, with integrity.
A broken clock is right twice a day.... but this is hilarious 😂😂😂😂
Anytime Cenk wins an argument against you, it’s time to reevaluate your life choices - the keys dude is a quack.
His record is quite good, compared to the records of pollsters and such. I’m guessing that your issue with him is that he’s Jewish
@@technoloverish His 'record' is stating the obvious. Everyone else knew who would win also, without the need for any so called keys. He's an arrogant quack, now get over it.
@@Lonewanderer30I mean barring trumps initial 2016 one, most of the other election were fairly obvious.
@@technoloverish It's his pompous out-of-touch attitude that gets under people's skin. Elites like this are why Democrats lost. Long gone are the Bill Clinton "Bubba" Democrats.
@@chandraray7798 Actually Trumps 2016 win was pretty obvious as well, but yes, they all were obvious except 2000.
“Blasphemy against me.”
ROFL, this guy is nuts.
I said the same thing!
Again, shoutout to our homegirl Kim Iverson who, prior to the election, used Lichtman's own keys and predicted Trump would win decisively.
Bring her back for guest shot !!! Or Robbie go on her show
Do you remember which episode she refers to Lichtman's keys?
@@CDime-10 Yes, the ep. titled "“Nostradamus” Pollster Claims Kamala Harris WILL WIN!?!?"
Wow 😮 where’s that video ?! I knew something was off by the keys 🔑 this year cuz he said if Biden stayed in the race , the democrats would’ve won. SMH
“I will not stand for blasphemy against me”
Really?
God complex much?
It's one of the Commandments.
@@aleaiactaest8354its one of his keys.
Litchman almost lost his wig
Allan just predicted what HE WANTED to happen
Yup, in that regard a fortune cookie would had been a better predictor
Bingo
He predicted Trump before and other Republican presidents. He would’ve been right if it weren’t for Russia and Elon tampering with the election.
Exactly his 13 keys are actually a decent model to predict elections but several if not all of them are extremely subjective and he wasn’t able to accurately apply his model due to his inherent bias against Trump
@@RickRoss440 EXACTLY!
When he said blasphemy against me, I knew Lichtman was an insane, crazy person. He has a book to sell every 4 years so I understand why he gets defensive but he refuses to accept he was wrong even in the Bush Vs Gore race. Its time to cancel this guy, we don't need more people with a God complex on TV.
Send him to Joe Reid.
Yeah he even back tracked his other L. He's undefeated, 11-0 champ.
He was correct about Bush v. Gore. Gore should have been sworn in as president. But the rest of your point stands.
"I wrote 13 books! I have been a professor for 51 years! My wig is EMACULATE!"
Thing is anyone with one brain cell can be a professor or write books, he proved it?
Blasphemer@@FreaksSpeaks
@@jameshairston2192 no, I was only asking, for a friend.
Even trump has writen a book so anyone even with 2 brain cells can write a book nowdays.
I haven't seen a single book of his and I'm a history book fanatic.
He looks so ridiculous with that wig, leave that nonsense for Joy Reid.
For some reason all pollsters have strange hair
@@protocorpseNate Silver’s hair is amazing
@@protocorpse No need to mock the man's appearance...
I mean, there's plenty to mock already with all the nonsense hes saying
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@@damiang888that's right brother. I support all of you hair system owners.
Lichtman has an extraordinarily high opinion of himself.
Lichtman has gotten 9/11 election predictions correct, which is a far better track record than most of the people criticizing him, including Cenk. What he does need to do is stop rationalizing his misses as wins with extra steps. And if he thinks misinformation is a major factor in the election outcome, explicitly update that in his model. Make it a 14th key if you have to.
Perhaps he does, but I find it largely irrelevant. His keys should stand on their own merits.
Robby's personal animosity toward Lichtman, dismissing his forecasts as equivalent to coin flips when Lichtman was correct 6 (arguably 7) of 8 times, highlights how personal bias can blind one to plain facts.
Lichtman himself is not immune to this, of course. As another commenter states Kim Iverson used his own keys to predict T's victory.
@@liuj88That is not a particularly strong predictive records. The 2016 prediction is the only one that has any merit over and above basic polling.
The main criticism is that the keys are essentially qualitative, so have little value in themselves, only as an aid to general interpretation (which many do successfully anyway).
@@liuj88 - His "keys" are so subjective as to be worthless. One can use them to make the case for either candidate in most elections. What should stand *or fall* on its own merit *or lack thereof* is his predictions....
And this record actually isn't very impressive, when one scratches below the surface just a bit....As Robby pointed out, the total sample size that we're working with is rather small. Since he created the system in 1981, there have been just 11 total presidential elections, and only a few of those were relatively close. With most of them, anyone could have easily predicted, just by looking at the polls a month or two before Election Day. And with the three or four close ones, his record isn't really any better than someone flipping a coin.
Cenk making sense has my head hurting.
"Losing 13 Servicemembers and leaving 85 Billion worth of equipment in the desert to our enemies was not a Major Military Failure.'
-Allan Lichtman
Lichtman rather defends his keys by saying it was Racism and sexism then maybe saying it was him being too biased and not using his own keys correctly, because if u read those keys there is a big case here that Trump wins according to the keys if used with less bias.
Agreed. I watched a video of him going over the keys abd had Trump winning a lot more keys than Harris. I think he let his bias show tremendously and it affected his judgment
Piers Morgan has become the new Jerry Springer. Constant material for other shows.
Word😂😂😂😂 it’s like a cast for the Three Stooges reloaded 💀💀
😂
The Fact Lichtman considered Cenk’s criticism as “blasphemy” is all you need to know about this fool
The irony is Alan's Key's were right. He just interpreted them in biased ways. Subjective bias 😂
Exactly...short term economy for sure
But thats the problem with his system. Evaluating the conditions for the keys is highly subjective.
DON'T BLASPHEME ME
"What are you Jesus Christ?" 😂
For a College Professor.....his command of the english language is underwhelming....
That was my favorite part. Lost it there
Wiggy Lichtman bestowing god-like status on himself...talk about cranking the sneering elitism up to 11! When Cenk pulled out his key ring and started rattling it while Wiggy was speaking, I lost it!
Blasphemy.... I am lord lichtman
he is god lichtman😂😂😂
@shushinho5274 Holy War over the 13 keys before Gta 6
Bravo Cenk!!!
I can't stand Cenk, but this was hilarious LOL!
It was great radio.
It is so refreshing to have Niall on with Robby. A sane voice, arguing when appropriate and in an unemotional way.
Niall is too refreshing and sane. I miss Nomiki
I really like Niall. Way more professional than any anchor or newscaster I can think of on MSM. Also hard to deny the charm of his accent lol
The ladies who argues with Robby are annoying
@@EarthenGames He also does an Irish podcast called The Stand with Eamon Dunphy that's very informative. Reasonably sane with no hysterics. This is all relative of course. I'm using Piers Morgan as the nadir metric of tabloid sensationalism dressed up as journalism.
One of the symptoms of stage 5 TDS is absolute incapability to have instrospectiveness.
Who else saw Allan act like a five year old on several news stations because of a little push back? The guy has a fragile ego 😂😂😂
I can never take my eyes off Lichtman's ridiculous wig- I keep expecting it to make a bid to escape...
I can't believe this day came: the day that I'm agree with Cenk Uygur
Actually, I think the problem was less the keys and more Allan desperately wanting Harris to win. If he had interpreted the keys correctly, it would have shown a Trump win.
I agree for instance two of his keys deals with short and long term economy. He had both down as positive for Harris but it's about perceived performance not that which is written down. It was obvious many Americans were not happy with the current state of the economy so those two should have been negative and with those two negative his system would have shown Trump being the victor. This is why it's so important to be objective in such matters because once personal feelings enter the equation the chance of getting false results increases.
@ exactly.
That's the way I saw it, too. If he just took his emotions out of it his keys would've predicted a Trump landsline, and his streak would've remained intact.
@@PoliticsAndPunches - Yes and no...The problem is though that most of his "keys" are quite subjective, so one can use them to make the case that either candidate would win, in most elections.
Allan always said you can do your own system and show it to the world.
I have actually gained respect for Cenk. I thought it was a total joke when he "ran for president."
Well, it was a total joke. He just wasn't wrong about the raison d'être.
@@KonigGustavAdolph "He just wasn't wrong about the raison d'être."
You mean that Biden couldn't win? We know it's true in the timeline where Biden makes verbal mistakes every other word. Whereas his mental decline was not yet apparent when Cenk made that proclamation. Instead, his main selling point was "can't win 'cause Gaza genocide", which did not seem to be a top 5 reason for the loss.
It was a total joke. But perhaps the experience left him slightly wiser. (One can only hope)
Lichtman is a loon. Glad to see someone take hom to task.
Blaspheme against the Lord of the Keys!
Lichtman should worry less about his 13 keys and more about his 13 loose screws
"You deserve a tall glass of shut-up juice" is rapidly becoming my favorite line of the week.
0:50
Look at his hand tremble. Cenk really did struck a vein.
Rare Cenk win.
I predict the professor will not predict anymore 😂.
Maybe the only time in my life that I will side with Cenk, Allan is a bitter little old man and his TDS has taken over his brain.
Never trust a man who wakes up every day and lies to himself about his hair.
Exactly. Like Trump !
Biden’s plugs remind me of an Iowa corn field.
Lichtman shouldn’t go away mad, he should just go away
This guys Justin Bieber 2011 toupee cracks me up.
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LOL..... the professor dude like, totally wigged out !
“Stupidly” ….. Is the KEY word
I went through his latest version of his keys, trying to use whatever criteria he had, and I found 6 keys that were false. The keys are a good indicator of who has the best chance to win. Lichtman allowed his TDS to get in the way of any objectivity
I think his keys are correct. How he used them, I disagreed on.
I think he did not foresee the consumption of political media of most people has shifted to online because of the pandemic as opposed to 2020 and before. He probably still consumed media through traditional means which is why his analysis is the way it is.
IMO, that was his flaw but he's too arrogant to admit it.
His TDS subjectivity caused him to misinterpret his own keys.
It wasn't personal until Cenk said, "Don't flip your wig!" Chaos ensued.
He was wrong won't accept it
The thing that stood out most to me was Lichtman is
a professor he has to know what "blasphemy" means...these people literally worship themselves and each other. Liberalism is religion for godless Democrats make no mistake.
nice hairpiece Alan
Watching this spat was the first time I’ve ever found myself on Team Cenk 😂
Blasphemy?
On his 11th Key: Challenger Charisma, Lichtman gave the key in Kamala's favor stating that Trump is only charismatic to a small audience.
What?!
Lichtman is an absolute joke. I watched his stream on election night just to see his cope.
I felt bad for his son......watching his father's legacy get totally upended in real time....
I only agreed or side with Cenk twice in the past 7yrs I knew or aware of him. And it happened these last two weeks.
He got Cenk'd!
You can tell the guy has not had anyone talk that way to him in a very long time. Lol "blasphemy"
The guys used to speaking to undergrads that don’t know any better
@@2steaksandwiches665 - Nah, even they prob know better. They're just afraid to say what they really think of him :D
Cenk needs to tell the truth, support Trump, and be honest with his followers
Blasphemy? 😂😂😂😂 St-Lichtman has spoken.😂😂😂😂
RIP Allan
I predicted last presidents going back to Gerald Ford and I have 9th grade education. Big deal.
Lichtman is such a narcissist and his absloute meltdown is glorious to look at.
Blasphemy is for Jesus not Lichtman
Never imagined that I would agree with Cenk on anything.
Anytime cenk beats you in a debate it's time to re evaluate your life choices
Just following the rolling mental breakdown of Allan Lichtman.
Lichtman was sooooo bullied at school......
Allan is acting like a spoiled brat. 😂.
On that segment Lichtman said he has been a professor for 50 years! That's his problem, stuck in academia for so long he has forgotten how the real world works.
"BLASPHEMY" 😂 pfft I'm surprised that he didn't yell TREASON!
Allan should open his Palm Reading office ASAP! A job that fits his character the best! 🤚😁
Allan Lichtman is pretty delusional. He cannot admit that his thirteen keys failed the test this year. I don't think that anyone is going to be interested in his predictions in the future. Excuses, excuses. Bad look Al!
Chunk Uyugur was completely wrong himself, he just needs someone else to blame. 😂😂😂😂❤
Thanks Cenk!
Is Allan Lichtman's head really shaped that way, or is that just a terrible haircut?
Give it up Alan. You were wrong.
Chunky Yogurt vs Our Lord, Lichtman
“ Shut up juice” 😂😂😂
Lichtman is a hilarious narcissist with a very unconvincing wig.
You cut it off too early* it gets better, he calls him Jesus.
Best comment I saw on that video was
"Lichtman: I have wrote 13 books!!
Dr. Suess wrote way more than that..."
Hate Cenk but that " You need a Tall glass of SHUT UP Juice. " That's funny. I give it to him 😅😅
Allan! Your keys are right!
*BUT YOUR CONCLUSION IS WRONG!*
Lets be fair the keys weren't wrong, his interpretation of the keys were.
Allan Lichtman and the janitors of his university are the only people in that building with 13 keys.
Key number one, never underestimate a nation scorned! 😊
When cenk pulled out actual keys😂
Just another degenerate gambler with his dumb keys - you see those in vegas everyday they roll $100 to $50,000 and then lose it all the same night
Lichtman part of chosen people tribe.... they think questioning them or not praising them is blasphemy....
Look, i am no fan of cenk ugyur but it would be a mistske for alan lichtman to challenge cenk ugyur to a fistfight. i'm sorry but i see alan lichtman getting his clock cleaned in that scenario
Lichtman was like “saying that to me is blasphemy!” Who tf does this guy think he is. His career is over.
He’s 77 years old. If he were smart enough, he would just retire and live out the remaining few years of his life.
Do not blaspheme God Lichtman😂😂😂
When you first look at this it seems like Cenk is being really rude, which he is. But when you hear the delusional comments from Lichman before this clip, he kinda deserves it.
Cookie poll is now more accurate😂😂😂 this man got baked😂😂😂
Robby this cohost duo is a winner! You have won me over and I am now subscribed…..I never thought that would happen!😮😮😮🇺🇸🇮🇱