Why Is ‘Marvel Vs Capcom’ Coming To Every Platform But Xbox?
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- Опубліковано 20 лип 2024
- Is Xbox being snubbed by not getting Marvel vs. Capcom Fighting Collection: Arcade Classics? Or is there some other reason Capcom isn't releasing the game on Xbox consoles.
0:00 - History Has Been Made
0:26 - New Features
0:37 - Coming To Switch, PC (Steam) and PS4 (PS5)
0:48 - No Xbox
1:09 - Theory No. 1 (Bad Xbox Sales)
1:42 - Theory No. 2 (MT Framework Hard To Port)
2:51 - Outro - Ігри
Guess Xbox doesnt want to be taken for a ride.
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As pissed off as I am about this not coming to Xbox. Your comment is funny asf. 😂😂😂😂😂
Lol for real
@@BIGNOSEPOPPA I recommend Killer Instinct for a fighting game on Xbox one.
Off topic, but holy crap Killer Instinct really needs a comeback, too.
Microsoft cancelled a tournament because it would have driven excitement for a new game.
Meaning it’s likely not going to happen…
@CarbyGuuGuu As a Xbox player, as a major Killer Instinct fan, as a FGC player; fuck Microsoft.
Maybe Microsoft will sell it.....
Maximilian did a movement with #bringbackKI and it did nothing, just a balance update and a color swap to the logo. They should sell it so they can focus on their CoD numbers and Candy Crush numbers.
Didn’t a remaster already get announced?
I’m not gonna lie, finding out the MvC collection wasn’t coming to Xbox was the catalyst for my switch to PlayStation
I'm personally just switching to PC. Too much bullshit to deal with on modern consoles. I might buy the next Nintendo console, but the Switch will probably be the last one I'll seriously use, unless the next one offers genuinely half competent performance. PlayStation just doesn't offer enough for me to personally be interested in anything past PS3 and Vita.
Xbox users only bought 1000 copies of a Phoenix Wright collection a couple years ago. Compare that to Nintendo fans at the beginning of the Nintendo Switch’s life. Capcom told Nintendo fans they might not get future support if they didn’t by a $40 copy of Street Fighter II, and it sold over 1million copies.
Maybe because Ace Attorney is a weird game which also started out as a game on Nintendo Platforms.
Had you used a more Competent Title as an Example maybe you could have had a point.
@@cMARVEL360 ONLY 1000 COPIES!!! Come on. Xbox should have been able to passively sell over 10K copies in a day, but they couldn’t even do that. Phoenix Wright is a Capcom game, and they noticed that.
@@blakewilliams5627
How could it sell 10,000 supposed copies if people aren't interested?
Not to mention that many people own a Switch. When it comes to a weird game like Ace which Started out as a Nintendo Game, In a weird Gameplay Loop, It's a game that sells better on the Japanese Catered Nintendo & PlayStation platforms.
If I had a switch and an Xbox, and I was interested in this game, which platform do you think I would pick up the game on?
I personally believe you are purposely ignoring a lot of factors and are more interested in delivering your narrative regardless of factors.
And that's cool, but it just isn't something I'm interested in interacting with.
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@@cMARVEL360I’m not ignoring anything. You are making excuses for why Xbox fans won’t buy certain games. I just told you about a Capcom game (company making this Marvel fighting collection) that only sold 1000 copies, and Capcom has been skipping Xbox ever since. This Marvel fighting collection is something that they don’t believe Xbox fans will buy in decent numbers. They aren’t going to put development time into a game they believe might sell less than 10,000 copies. Capcom fears It could come to Xbox, and instead of just paying $60 for it, Xbox fans could start begging for it to come to gamepass.
@@blakewilliams5627
It's because I'm on Xbox and I have never played Ace Attorney in my life. I'm talking to you as an Example.
You're laying some BS on us as to why we don't have some of the most Legendary Games in Human History, by using some Lame Niche game as an Example?!
Dude I don't even pick Ace in Ultimate Marvel Vs. Capcom 3 because I think he is lame.
Don't lay that Evil on us.
I even Own Marvel. Vs. Capcom 1 & 2 On Arcade 1up. Two cabs, Same Games List for $500 each.
I'm on Xbox and I love this game so much I'm gonna buy it on Steam and Switch (Physical) and I down even own a Switch.
You think I wouldn't have bought an Xbox Copy? You don't make any sense.
Microsoft did a good job of convincing everyone to not care about XBOX anymore.
This year’s showcase was great, but it still did nothing to convince to actually buy an Xbox if their games are also coming to PC and PlayStation.
Not to mention the consoles are still expensive, $600 for a 2 TB model of 3-year-old hardware is ludicrous.
Agreed it was probably Xbox's best showcase in 10 years, but the sad reality is most of them are coming to PS and ALL of them are gonna be on PC. To me the whole point of exclusives is to sell consoles, but the game industry has shifted I guess.
Here's a blue controller its made from our tears lol
Since the 360 they have systematically blown up their player base
@@steveb9713 When they brought out that Kinect on the 360, they failed to bring out GOTY type games. Killer Instinct & both Forza Games have been great for the most part but those games aren't up for GOTY because of the type of games they are.
GamePass is where all games and developers profits go to die.
Low xbox sales in the last Capcom fighting collection is why.
Exactly! And also Xbox has a history of selling low with these fighting games!🎮🕹️🎮💸🤑💸
Dammit! And I was gonna complete my Marvel vs Capcom collection on one console!
@@john-sp8jkthat's not true. I brought it on Xbox so there!
Cause your anecdotal evidence completely invalidates sales data published by Capcom?
@@mappybc6097 ok. Gamepass killed it then. That seems to be also what supports this. I’m not your research daddy. Go find it yourself.
Unfortunately this has been a trend over the last few years which is why I no longer play on Xbox. It’s either the switch, ps4/5, or pc for me nowadays.
See, that's the difference between people who hold their nuts and people who get forced to do shit by companies.
If it's not coming to Xbox, then I ain't playing it😂
buy a steam deck its all in 1
Best decision
@@infinite8world, stay rotten then in that platform.
I think ps is in the same boat, underdelivering on the expectations of a new gen. Switch is the best of them, although it is not my platform of choice wgen i buy multiplatform aaa games, steam/pc is such a better option over all of them, nintendo exclusives are really good, and gamepass is a great service, but steam ultimately tajes the cake
My theory: MS and Capcom's relations went south. Even Mega Man Battle Network didn't release on Xbox.
Not to mention, that one Ace Attorney collection they did a few years back apparently sold pretty poorly on Xbox compared to the other platforms it was released on.
Street Fighter 6 limited version on Series S, and Resident Evil 4 not solded on Xbox One confirmed your theory to me.
For What I heard, the reason why the MVC Collection is not at Xbox it's because Microsoft stoped working with the same programs that Capcom is using for this title
I think my only REAL bummer about the collection is the lack of crossplay. Wish at least PC and PS players had it like SF6. I'll even take it as a later patch
That would of been cool
That may be another reason for a lack of Xbox, the player-base would be so damn small without crossplay.
@@bigrazo5098 I recommend Killer Instinct for a fighting game on Xbox one.
Xbox players: State of Play barely has anything, we have a lot to look forward to in Xbox.😁
Also Xbox players: WHAT DO YOU MEAN NO MVC Collection ON XBOX?!😭
Hahahaha, right on!
The developer is using old software that is not compatible with Xbox new frame work.
@@TombstonecrossPS5 owner?
I don't get you. Both statements are true.
I think part of it is the fact that it was announced on a Nintendo Direct and not at EVO
USF2 and SF 30th Edition sold *incredibly* well on Switch. It's entirely possible funding was given for this games budget by Nintendo and Sony, similar to how Sony gave funding to SFV for PS4 exclusivity.
Nintendo only does that if they want the game exclusive to Switch just like how MARVEL Ultimate Alliance 3 was, Nintendo didn't pay for Capcom or MARVEL to put the MARVEL vs. Capcom Fighting Collection for Switch. Had they done that then the collection wouldn't be also on Steam and PS4. Technically it's either Capcom or MARVEL or Disney or all of them who paid Nintendo to be able to showcase that collection on the Nintendo Direct.
Can you imagine the crowd reaction if this was announced at EVO? I feel robbed, lol.
@@Drexxyl well one comment I saw phrased it like this.
FGC watches EVO.
EVERYONE watches Nintendo Direct
Xbox is a very high-risk platform to support a niche title on unless you're getting that sweet Gamepass deal. This is mostly owing to the smaller, highly localized install base this gen. Also, the process of delivering updates for Xbox games is still onerous and can negatively impact other platforms, especially if crossplay is supported.
Wish it weren't so, but that's why.
There's no such thing as Sweet to a gamepass.
For those with short memories- it was the arrival of X-Box and their shills that started unfairly demonising the Japanese games industry (that had given us so many classics) in favour of a homegrown product. A lot of Japanese games developers never recovered in those shameful times. I didn't forget and I guess neither has Japan?
It's possible, these games don't typically sell well on Xbox in Japan, and maybe even in the west, I always preferred Playstation's D-Pad to Xbox's especially for fighting games.
I also support the sales theory. The Battle Network Collection missed Xbox due to them believing sales would be bad. However if this MvC Collection had crossplay I think the situation would have been different. Look at Monster Hunter Wilds. It's releasing on everything with full crossplay support, including Xbox. I'm going to make the choice of not buying this MvC Collection because it really strikes a nerve with me that Xbox is being left out again, whatever their reasoning is.
I buy the Game Pass theory. Games don't sell as well on Xbox and most Xbox users just play games off of Game Pass rather than buying games
Yeah, your IGNORANCE is hilarious. It's because of how Xbox handles Backwards compatibility with MT Framework.
@@kahnsealableI have to assume this was meant for someone else or you have a severe reading comprehension problem.
No need to be an asshole about it @@kahnsealable
Gaybox fans are hobos.
Gimme free money, spare some change? Gamepass change, gimme money.
Said the xfag fan.
Gamepass is a death deal for devs
I've been saying that FOR YEARS. It is not sustainable unless Microsoft wants to burn money, developers don't make enough to offset the cost of development with whatever Microsoft gives them to put it on Gamepass, essentially killing almost all sales for Xbox.
unless it's a years-old game that is barely making any money for the devs anymore. "Game Pass at launch" OTOH is 100% a bad deal
But but Microsoft gives them a cut! Lol
And they'd get a bigger cut they'd be able to keep all or most of if they avoided gamepass
Yes, COD is definitely going to die because it's on Gamepass. LMAO.
@@fcukugimmeausername I don't think Activision's shareholders are going to enjoy seeing less and less returns every quarter due to COD essentially being free now.
Xbox players buy sports and shooters typically. If Capcom releases it on that platform, they don’t sell enough units to cover costs.
And the world continues to move on.
Spider-man license is owned by Sony(Squares avengers game lacked spider-man on xbox) and they are have released games on Switch in the past and are bringing Lego Horizon to switch so not allowing their licenced character on xbox just seems like another of Sonys' anti consumer decisions.
Marvel Rivals, Midnight sons, Lego Marvel games, Sony only have the license to produce Spiderman''s games and by insomniac's leak we know that deal only for specifics games
Marvel's Avengers case was a deal of exclusivity between Square Enix and Sony
I don't think the MT framework thing makes much sense at all. PS5 and Xbox series S/X are incredible similar (basically same CPU some variance in GPU) major difference is Xbox is forced to use Direct X as its graphics API, but most likely the steam version will use Direct X API since its the most commonly used Graphics API. So yea I don't think its a hardware issue at all.
yeah I don't even think this collection would use MT Framework at all (unless it's purely for UI, which doesn't make much sense to me why UI of all things would cause hardware compatibility issues). The actual games are literal MAME ROMs with a few modifications per game.
@@BronzeAgePepper That is a great point actually, these games predate MT Framework by almost a decade and I don't believe MT Framework was ever used to emulate older games. This video is probably just straight misinformation.
it's not going to ps5 either just ps4.
Because of Killer Instinct.
That's why.
The games on the collection were NOT ever developed through MT Framework. These are older games that any device nowadays can play without much problem. The newest engine/hardware used for one of the games for example is the NAOMI for Marvel vs Capcom 2, and CPS2 for the rest ( besides Punisher). The reason Capcom hasn't released it for Xbox YET is because of gamepass and Xbox not really being a fighting game platform in this last generation. They will release on Xbox if sales are good which they will be.
Look guys just get a cheap pre-owned 1st gen PS4 and buy the game if you really want to enjoy it.
If the title just capcom VS. series fighting collection maybe tatsunoko vs. capcom would be included
We would only hope so !!!!! Might as well bring on RIVAL SCHOOLS series !!!!!
I'm sure eventually Capcom's 3D fighters will come out in its own collection (maybe they might have to forge a deal with Arika for the SF EX series as well).
It’s already a big deal just to get the Marvel license, it’s unthinkable to see Tatsunoko get lumped in there
Na that was a stupid game
Nope. It's ARCADE collection. Not console.
All the collections are CPS1,2 & 3 roms , apart from MvC2 ?
Like if you have a current gen Xbox...
Yeah so you can see why it's not on Xbox.
I wish I could like this in agreement
The developer is using old software that is not compatible with Xbox new frame work.
I hope we can get a JoJo HFTF rerelease in the near future
ITS XBOX SF is BARELY on XBOX. Cmon now!!! This has been a normal since like 2016
Ok… cool.. Thank you Marvel… how bout Marvel Alliance HD…??
Are they still delisted on the Xbox store? I would honestly pay full price for those games, even the X-Men Legends games.
Or, you know, it's just as simple as liscense negotiations haven't been completed for the XBox platform by the time the Nintendo direct announcement. Hasn't been the first game that had a platform to be omitted from initial announcement, only to come out later.
They could had make a Kabuto Chōjin 2.
Devs have been pulling out of xbox for years, it's a sinking ship and AAA studio's dont need the GP lump sum so they dont put their games on day 1 GP.
Because Microsoft KILLED Tango Gameworks (including Hi-Fi Rush) and gutted Halo Infinite (cancelled split-screen). Corporate greed my ass.
Short answer: gamepass…get rid of that shit…its gonna cause a video game crash sooner than later
I thought maybe it had something to do with Spiderman and Venom being a Sony Spiderverse (film franchise)
I don’t think it’s a blow for Xbox fans. The FGC has never really had a huge presence on the Xbox platform. Killer instinct was about it but wasn’t that huge in comparison to other fighters. I don’t see many XFans really crying over this not being on their platform.
That’s bs tho because when they delisted the marvel origin games on ps3 and marvel vs Capcom 2 remix hd thingy , Xbox held those game longer
Also street fighter 30th collection and Capcom fighting collection also were physically available on Xbox …
Now Microsoft wants to walk away from THIS?! And in a Sony guy saying this
I’ve been an Xbox fan for a while but damn, I still play UMVC3 a lot often and wow. This video has a great understanding
I mean....there's no reason to own a Xbox. If you have a PC and whichever other console you want to have, you're in a better spot
Yes. Toss this lame shit in the garbage.
Have a PS5, Switch and a Gaming PC - couldn't be happier.
@@magicprime5135Same, I think X-box isn't a good option anymore. If they are gonna let all their exclusives out on other consoles, so why would you have an X-box?
@@fernandonava6693 The reason Microsoft wanted their exclusive XBOX games to go multiplatform on other consoles so that their consoles and software games would sell better putting it in better competition with Nintendo Switch, Sony PlayStation 5 and the PC. Games and consoles will sell best being multiplatform outlet sales and fans will be happier with that. That is the way it has been for years. That is the way it should continue to be. The Spiderman games were never exclusive until, Insomniac Games decided that which was wrong. Rocksteady Studio never made there Batman Arkham Games exclusive. What's up with that video gamers.
I got a series S 2 years ago, and honestly I love it.
Mt framework is nonsense, the games are emulated not actual ports of the systems they use.
*Ok, I apologize for sounding like a crazy Xbox fanboy for a second but I really need people to start using their brains for more than just remembering how to breath, im sorry I have to push back on the idea that games don't sell on Xbox theory. I hate when people state that as a fact simply because gamepass is a thing, if there was any truth to it, Xbox as a platform entirely would be a baron wasteland with absolutely 0 3rd party support.*
My point im trying to make is Capcom out of any publisher in gaming would know whether or not if its worth porting their games to Xbox. I mean, if gamepass was truly the problem, then why are they continuing to put their titles such as Kunitsu-Gami: Path of the Goddess and Exoprimal into gamepass day one. I didn't even mention every Capcom game/ collections that's available on Xbox
-Capcom fighting collection
-Street Fighter 6
-Capcom Beat 'Em up Bundle
-Ghost Trick Phantom Detective
-Mega Man Legacy collection 1/2
-Mega Man X Legacy collections 1/2
-Mega Man 11
-Mega Man Zero/ZX Legacy Collection
-Devil my cry 1/2/3/4/5
-Capcom Arcade stadium 1/2
-Resident evil franchise
-Ace Attorney franchise
-Monster Hunter franchise
I'd have to look up the sales numbers but don't all of those games you just listed sell much worse on Xbox in comparison? Maybe not in the 360 days when Xbox was dominating with 3rd parties, but recently it seems like PS and Switch are the go-to consoles when everything on Xbox is readily available on PC at the same time.
While I still think Game Pass is a sales killer (logically it has to be, why would you pay $70 for 1 game when you can pay $15 for 100's?) I think the framework Capcom used for the older games isn't an easy port to the Series consoles for whatever reason. Even newer games are having difficulties like Baldur's Gate 3 with it's Series S problems, and Black Myth: Wukong with the devs stating they need more time to polish the Xbox version.
It almost seems like a reversal from the PS3/360 days when the PS3 was notoriously hard to develop for (I just made a new video about that) and now the Series consoles are harder to develop for. These are all just theories though, I still love my Series X and still do 85% of my multiplayer/coop gaming on there.
There's nothing to buy on xbox except COD smh.They say xbox users don't buy games?What fckn games are they talking about?
And now you don't even have to buy COD, as it's coming to Gamepass, and I fell that is gonna blow up in their face.
Xbox is not a gaming console anymore, it’s the new Netflix of gaming.
Xbox is stinkin up the industry more developers should ignore them
im not even mad when i can play the whole collection for free on xbox dev mode i have over 10,000 retro games
I just know one people that have XBOX, most have Nintendo Switch or Playstation 5 and the majority have both
Is not coming to fridge!!???
Honestly without the fridge this game is flopping, smh.
I’m hearing it has something to do with a MT engine and that either Capcom or Xbox moved away from it? Maybe they’re trying to figure a way to get a Xbox version up and running, because the other fighting collections are on there
Sony has basically monopolized the fighting game genre and thats supported by the FGC competitive scene standardizing it. This became solidified with the PS4 after Capcom and Arc System made their fighters Xbox excluded titles. I hate this, because this just splits up the community. I can play Marvel on my PC, but my friends dont have PCs, and were all not buying a dead PS5 just to play a nearly 30 year old game we already bought twice.
I will say it as a xbox owner. Xbox has done nothing but destroy their brand. They care more about game pass more their systems and about games. I don't blame capcom. There is not a day that I wish I got a ps4 pro instead of a xbox one.
Less console sales, less support from 3rd party similar to Vita and Wii U. It is also make it harder for them get exclusive deal because they had to pay developer more to skip PS5 and Switch.
Too be honest I woud have preffer UMVC3 with rollback insted of Punisher.
xbox is an american console at the end of the day, capcom, sony, nintendo are all from the same area i could see them really catering to that audience and thats okay
Marvel license stuff, that's all.
If the cost is tied to a "per system" basis, there's your why.
I get that licenses are expensive, but for a Disney-owned company like Marvel, they’d definitely want money from every platform possible.
But, since this is a Capcom situation, they don’t want to release the collection on a platform where fighters are rarely played.
That's why it didn't get street fighter 6 on xbox one
They need to just list the previous MVC2 port as a backward compatible title.
Phil just made a statement about gamepass and games coming to the console.
LOOK AT SALES ONTO ASIAN countries like Japan!!!!
Xbox maybe once a year as CONSOLE
Anime games or Japanese exclusives only on Nintendo or Playstation 4 so far
To my knowledge only 5 countries knows xbox.
That doesnt make sense blaming MT frame wirk, both street fighter anniversary collection and the capcom fight collection plus the the other capcom beat em up collection would run in much the exact same way as this collection so thats bull
Those games didn't run on this engine. You can look up the full list of games that used the engine you know.
Theyre all CPS1,2 & 3 roms apart from mvc2
@@JamesJones-uf4lk ...and? The games are an all or nothing deal.
Look, Ace Attorney Investigations collection was also at the direct and is coming to Xbox (more games that did not use MT). This shows Capcom does not hate Xbox, it really just is this engine issue. This is also why there is no native PS5 version.
Well even tho im on xbox i guess i could always get in on the switch and ps4 i guess, same shit
Same reason no one watches Netflix when the movies come out in theaters! Xbox is just the Netflix of gaming!
Same for Fighting Force Collection 😂
Xbox is like the dream cast So they better put it on there
Maybe it’s still being ported to Xbox but they can’t promise that for the announcement trailer, releasing later after the other platforms. Maybe…
When a game from a Third party comes to xbox the developer gets paid money from Microsof. So they are loosing money in the end by not making a versuon for Xbox series
I'm disappointed that it won't come to Xbox but very exciting to get this game for the Nintendo Switch OLED
The game being on Switch is a huge win, I'm still not sure why the game wasn't announced at EVO, the crowd would've went nuts.
@@Drexxyl I'm going to get them digitally
My only problem with this is i prefer xbox controller for fighting gsmes over the ps5 dualsense
The Series Controller definitely has a better D-Pad than the Xbox One Controller. It's why I played fighting games on my PS4 last gen.
Luckily Xbox controllers work natively with Windows and Steam
@@BronzeAgePepper dont have pc
It’s because Spider-Man is licensed to Sony and doesn’t want the collection on Xbox. That and an exclusive deal against Xbox as well.
Spider-Man and Venom and Morbius were all recently like a year ago or so on Midnight Suns which came to Xbox, so I don't think that could be it.
Except the game is on Switch and PC. And Spider-Man was in Ultimate Alliance 3 which was a Switch exclusive. The only thing Sony owns is the Specific Marvel's Spider-Man game series made by Insomniac
I only use my xbox for the browser to watch some shows but once I want to play its right to my ps5
It better that way, in my opinion
Because XBox is on it's way out.
Because the engine isn't supported. Technically, the game isn't on PS5 either.
It doesn’t matter because the PS5 is backwards compatible with PS4 games and it’s coming to PS4. People with a PS5 will just buy it via backwards compatibility. So technically the game is on PS5, just backwards compatible.
The issue is that it’s not even coming to Xbox ONE. Reason is apparently MS updated the Xbox hardware that makes the MT Framework not compatible with Xbox consoles 2022 and beyond.
Pretty sure this is a licensing issue. Spiderman is in these games and Sony currently holds the rights to the character. They possibly told capcom that they would not allow them to have the game on Xbox if they kept Spiderman in and they had to so thats why its not on there.
It has nothing to do with game pass or “nobody buys games on Xbox” or “why buy an Xbox if you own a PC?”.
It’s just game industry politics.
I don't see how that would do anything, Midnight Suns (criminally underrated) was released on both consoles not too long ago and that had Spider-Man, Venom, Morbius and others.
@@Drexxyl midnight sons came out in a period of time where Sony may have felt like they had the upper hand on this generation of consoles so it may not have mattered to them if he was in the game on Xbox. Also midnight sons was a game that may not have been seen as one that would do well (which it didn’t, like you said its underrated). At this point and time after all the MS acquisitions Sony may be starting to throw its weight around a bit to have certain things not go to xbox out of spite. Gotta look at it from a business stand point instead of a fan.
I’m pretty sure Sony stipulated that this game could not come to xbox because Spidey and Venom are in some of the games. They may never publicly admit that.
@@Drexxyl Then why is the game also on Nintendo Switch then if Sony doesn't want Spider-Man on other consoles? I could understand PC but c'mon the collection is only for last gen PlayStation, Steam, and the Switch. PS5 doesn't even get a port, that right there is the home of Spider-Man and it doesn't had one.
Sony owns the films rights, Marvel owns the character in all other mediums including games. Sony has a separate, but non exclusive, deal with Marvel to make Spider-Man games with Insomniac. Popular misconception.
@@jayguero2123but Sony does have upper hand. I remember Square Enix avengers game Spider-Man was exclusive for PlayStation users.
They need to add tatsunoko vs capcom to that list!!!!
No xbox versión, nobody blames series L, I means s, Lol.
Given that it’s coming to Steam, the PC build seems to already be in place. The Xbox is basically a glorified PC, so I’m not sure the MT theory holds up. I could be wrong and would invite some clarification if I am.
Xbox hasn’t been a gaming console since 2013, when they destroyed themselves with the disastrous launch of the Xbox One Scammy console.
I was looking forward to play it on the Series S! Bummer! 🤨 but I'm glad I didn't buy the overpriced MvC2 on Xbox or ps2 for over 80 bucks at least!
Same
It will be on Xbox soon just like TMNT and the other fighting collection
Microsoft doesnt support this games engine, not happening unless capcom does something about it. So probably no chance. Look it doesnt even have native ps5 version its only ps4 and backwards compatible on ps5
@@seba-nw3qz Then explain to me how the previous Fighting game collection made it to Xbox, just fine, along with Street Fighter Aniversary collection? Both those collections use CPS2 engine games. MVC2 happens to have ran on the Naomi Board...but SC2HD, which is on the xbox, was a naomi board game as well
@@ragingtyga I mean new Microsoft xbox systems
@@seba-nw3qz right and every turtle i mentioned before... works in the new systems, just like they worked on xbox one
I think it has to do more with capcom knowing that Microsoft will put this game on game pass they dont want that and want a full price purchase
You know the game can be on xbox without being on gamepass right?
That’s a dumb take considering not all games are on game pass.
Microsoft doesn’t have free rein to just add any game they want to Game Pass. The publisher has to agree to a deal.
They probably didn’t pay enough for it
Are you sure its just sony not wanting to put spiderman on xbox?
They can’t do that when it comes to Spider-Man in video games iirc. That’s a misconception
That has absolutely nothing to do with it. Midnight Suns? That ring a bell?
Marvel owns the character and Sony only owns the movie rights, Spidey has appeared in other Marvel games outside of the PlayStation series.
So, no, this is happening because Xbox doesn’t sell in Japan and many publishers don’t like risking their releases on a platform with a player base mostly consisting of shooter fans. So, they just wait a year or so until initial sales are met before they port it over to Xbox.
@CarbyGuuGuu You gave a more articulate answer than I wanted to waste in this thread.
Sidenote: Puyo Puyo Tetris 1 and 2 are amazing games to play when you either don't know what else to play, or if you're using remote play but forgot to pack your controller (with touch controls, you only really need three buttons to play)
@@CarbyGuuGuu I heard it’s cause Xbox doesn’t support the engine that these collections run on but I could be thinking of something else
Tbf, xbox has always been the weakest platform for FGC playerbase. Also microsoft seem to be focusing on software atm, and gamepass is on PC, all their games release on PC as well. Eventually there might not even be any xbox going forward. Who knows tho
That is NOT True at all. Xbox ruled EVO for MVC2, SF4, and just about every title that was on both PS and Xbox, Ran better with less input delay with more stable Online on Xbox 360.
Sony Bought Evo, and that changed the Landscape in regards to Consoles.
The PC has always been the best way to play, but for those who enjoyed consoles, Xbox was a Great Place to play a game you're interested in.
But PS platforms would always get the more Japanese based Fighting games of which there are many of, But even BlzBlue and Guilty Gear on both on Xbox now a days.
I mean dude. How can you say anything knowing that MVC2 was the top selling Xbox Live Arcade Game on release.
When MVC2 was first announced it was as an Xbox Live Arcade Title.
@@cMARVEL360
You misunderstood me.
You're saying 'Every title ran better with better online'
'PC is the best way to play' and 'Xbox was a great place to play'
1. I agree.
2. I am NOT talking about QUALITY of play... I said it's the weakest playerbase. This means number of people.
The majority of fighting game consumers play on PC and then secondly on Playstation.
An example with easy to find statistics is the recent Tekken 8:
PC: 53.18%
PS: 39.35%
XB: 7.47%
@@BenAstridge
You said it's always been the weakest when it has not been the case. In the days of the Xbox 360, players who practiced on PS, Had to go to Evo and play on an Xbox 360.
Even ports of games ran better on Xbox than PS2 like MVC2 port.
But I also understand we are arguing two timelines, You gave a Blanket Statement which I am saying is Historically NOT True, But I very much understand that over the years, between Arcade Stick support for PS, and better Graphics and Japanese Support made the PS4 era the foundation of what we have today in the FGC couple with Sont buying Evo.
What you can look at now is years of conditioning, So when you give a blanket statement, the people with the knowledge will happily correct you.
I'm 35. I have lived the various Gaming Habits and Lived the Perspective of the people for each era.
@@cMARVEL360
So all this keyboard warrior-ing was because i used the word 'always'? Okay scratch that word, my statement is correct.
Not exactly, the 360 was the preferred platform for fighting games during its heyday, but after Microsoft shot themselves in the foot with Xbox One, the FGC would migrate not only to PlayStation but also PC.
Did Sony pay for it not to be on Xbox?
Doubtful, the game probably wouldn't sell super well on Xbox anyways. In order of sales it'll probably be Switch, Steam, PS, and then Xbox if it comes to it.
Spider-man movie/game licence owned by Sony.
The game is also coming to Switch and Spider-Man has appeared in other Marvel games without Sony’s involvement (Midnight Suns, Marvel Rivals, Ultimate Alliance 3).
This is a matter of how Japanese games sell on Xbox, and how a lot of them end up skipping the platform because of its history of underperforming in that particular market.
@@CarbyGuuGuu Lego Horizon is also coming to Switch, Sony have made exceptions.
This is a popular misconception about the Marvel/Sony deal in regards to Spider-Man. The license for Spider-Man on film and video games are unrelated. Marvel has a lot more pull these days than they did in the 90s when they sold the film rights to Sony in perpetuity. The Insomniac games are a certain type of rights (action/adventure) but Marvel can still use the characters on other platforms and they have before and since in games like MvCI, Marvel UA3, Midnight Suns, Contest of Champions and Marvel Rivals. It makes no sense for them to grant Nintendo and Steam a go ahead that is supposedly needed according to you but not give it to MS for XBox. Simply doesn’t add up.
Wtf no XBOX? PC I guess then it is for me.
Dont play with w me Capcom i will buy a Switch just for MVC if i have too dammit
Xbox should just allow Steam to run natively on its console. I guarantee Xboxes would seal out everywhere
You do realise Steam is a direct competitor to XBox as an ecosystem (not as a hardware) right?
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We already had a Marvel vs Capcom 4 dude, its called Marvel vs Capcom Infinite, was weakest of the series but it was still a decent game. You meant that we need a Marvel vs Capcom 5. As for not coming on xbox, that's a shame, maybe it gets a port later, but even then, it still sucks for xbox owners that they won't be able to play it at launch.
There was no MVC 4, the last game was Inifinite, and infinite is not 4
I don't see why, even if characters owned by Sony like Spider-Man, Venom and Morbius, they all appeared in Midnight Suns recently and that came to Xbox.
@@Drexxyl Well like you mentioned, it could be the low sales or the architecture stuff that you mentioned. There are others classics not on xbox that were re-released recently, like Felix the Cat and Rocket Knight adventures. According to the developers Limited Run, they say its because they don't sell enough on xbox.
Nobody buys fighters on Xbox.
It definitely seems like the least likely platform players choose when it comes to fighting games. PC, Switch and PS all do better imo.
controller ban
Very easy Answer
They dont want to pay and hold up the servers on a platform that looks like its dying for 10+ years.
thats why ace attorney is coming because its offline
It'll be on Xbox.
At some point hopefully.
Very weird video here.
The first few minutes allow for viewer Speculation, before coming out with the facts. But because of the allowed Speculation, the facts mean nothing and eveeyone is still stuck on Speculation.
It's weird because the video went absolutely no where because the viewer base is still makjng up their own Narrative.
This would be a lot easier for you to understand if you look at it from Capcom’s point of view and not Xbox’s.
@@blakewilliams5627
Nah it's understood from their perspective, I also understand the video from the Creator perspective because it continues the same Narrative other people are spinning.
Everyone is more interested in making up their own reasons for why it's not on Xbox rather than reporting the facts and going from there.
The video isn't really to inform people, just to feed the fire, and I had to think of a way to knock the video without attacking the video 😅
What is worth noting though, is that outside of the negative, Everyone else has had a bad reaction to it being omitted from Xbox, so that at least lets Capcom know there was some interest, and that it is weird. But it's ok.
I own the A1UP cabs, Both the MVC one from 2020 and the MVC 2 cab, but the Online Lobbies are gonna Tank due to People being more interested in playing with a Larger Player base of Skill sets.
It's all speculation until Capcom and Xbox make a statement. Best guess is the MT Framework having difficulties being ported to the series consoles.
@@Drexxyl
You did read the Windows* Central Article right?
It's not speculation, it's due to a lack of port work which was a result of a lack of worth for Capcom.
Xbox is the smaller consumer base I accept that, and so it's not coming to Xbox. Everything else was just BS.
They do have a marvel versus Capcom 4. It's called infinite
Many fans do not consider that game MvC4.
@Drexxyl but it is and it's name after it
Games that aren't shooters or sports don't sell well on xbox