Why Team USA can beat Jamaica's 4x100 record, 16-year old OLYMPIAN & the Texas and Florida Relays
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- Опубліковано 28 тра 2024
- Rod and I split up to cover Texas and Florida relays, the women came out firing on all cylinders, especially Gabby Thomas and Julien Alfred. Will Quincy Wilson make the Olympics at 16 years old, and we get into the importance of therapy in pro sports. Lastly, some great mailbag questions.
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0:00 - Florida Relays
9:07 - Quincy Wilson the 16 year old phenom
20:36 - RSG Watch List
23:05 - Texas Relays with Gabby Thomas and Julien Alfred
36:58 - Therapy in pro sports
48:28 - 4X100M record under pressure
59:10 - Letsile Tebogo is a special talent
I respect Justin Gatlin so much. He handled the rawness of the world with strength and grace. Justin is someone who should mentor young Athletes. He has seen the sport from every angle. The lows, the highs....Such a unique perspective....
Tebogo and Knighton are definitely showing the evolution of the sport
There is nobody on the current US team as fast as Bolt,Blake or Powell. No chance of that record being broken this year.
Okay but it’s a relay. The 4 fastest doesn’t always equal the fastest relay team. It’s about how well you execute and pass around that baton as seamlessly as possible. Of course easier said than done, and that world record is definitely a tall order that won’t be easily broken.
@@actual_randomI mean you’d be surprised. Jamaica defo could’ve ran quicker than the record they set. But you’re severely underrating the US, if they put right athletes down and they exchange the baton well. The record is under threat
@@blank1933 What do you mean right athletes as if there is a pool. We know them and they struggle to drop 9.8 lows
Thanks for speaking the truth
Powell wasn't on the record team... a 9.94 Nesta and 9.95 Frater were. Both Usain and Asafa were sub 9.7 in 2012. The potential group of Coleman, Kerley, Knighton and Noah could all be sub 9.8 in an Olympic year. The "raw speed" is closer than you may think.
We as Spectators have no idea what these athletes go through. Big up! From JA
It's Fairly possible Not gonna lie KNIGHTON ON THIRD COLEMAN START NOAH ANCHOR BUT SECOND LEG IS DEBATABLE
Big Fred....can run that 2nd bend
@@k.o6157Coleman, Kerly, Knighton, Lyles would be deadly
Yeah thats the team and the order@@Mxlxchi
What about Kenny?!?
Coleman should start, Lyles should run second, Knighton, then Freddy. That is a potential WR setting combo.
Hey Justin my younger brother, big love to you man. Am Jamaican but you got my respect bro. I love the rivalry that has evolved between the US and Jamaica, it is a very intense but still very healthy and more so, very friendly rivalry. Nonetheless, so sorry to say though, but we are gonna beat you in Paris 4x100 in both males and females. It is what it is my friend. But like I said you got our respect. CHEERS!!!
The best sprinting podcast out 🔥🔥🔥
@@actual_random it gets tiring hearing about the sport from a loser’s perspective 😂
Yeah. Asafa Powell needs a great co-host to keep up these guys.
@joeferguson200 podcast is well worth a view if you're into sprinting .. agreed, Justin's podcast is AMAZING :)
4x100m WR
Coleman
Fred Kerly
Knighton
Lyles
That 36.84s was ran by prime Yohan Blake and prime Usain Bolt. Kerley seems to be handicap these days, tbh. I don't see a chance of the USA breaking the WR in the 4x100m.
KERLY-EGO PROBLEM
Not good enough
But Van Niekerk started this whole 100-400 thing when he ran 9.94, 19.84, 30.81 and 43.62 in a single season.
If I'm not mistaken he dd this within a few weeks of each other.
@@actual_random that man is very underrated
In 2000, Michael Johnson had the fastest time in the 200m (19.71), fastest time in the 300m (30.85), and fastest time in the 400m (43.68).
In this generation, Shericka Jackson (not Fred Kerley) is the pioneer of changing from 400m to 100m sprinter. She started winning international 4x100 relays way back in 2009.
Loving the content from Jamaica
Justin, I remember watching you run at Woodham High School when I was at Milton. It was obvious then you were a level above everyone else and would be special.
Nice job reppin Pensacola in your career!!
My suggestion for Team USA
4x100 Relay
1st Christian Coleman
2nd Noah Lyles
3rd Eryon Knighton
4th Fred Kerley
They need to train together now!!!
4th
Good to see Julien Alfred getting a mention. She’s looking very impressive and will be in the mix this season in the Women’s 100m and 200m.
I can see Julien Alfred beating Sha'Carri once or twice in the early part of this season. Just like Talou did to Shericka last season.
What you have to take into account is that when a team run the 4x100 final in the Olympic! That's after they have run the 100M, 200M and all the rounds that associated with those event, plus the semi for the 4x100, it's hard to run fast times in the 4x100 final, so don't read too much into a one off run, at a meet where you don't have all those other things to do...
Bolt could have ran a crazy fast 400 if wanted to
Imagine the london relay team with prime asafa instead of frater … 36,7 😂
I’ve always wondered this. Most definitely a 36.7~
Bolt ran 10.03 in his very first 100m race EVER, 9.76s in his 2nd race, 9.92s in his third and broke the WR in his 4th race 9.72s. and broke it again in his 12th race.
Erriyon is an excellent curve runner
The Gat-stretch! Hell yeah!
Hey Justin, is there ever any drama on relay teams since these guys are competitors in individual events? Maybe you can talk about the interpersonal dynamics on a episode.
Hey Justin you and Shelly are my favourite runners of all time, absolutely phenomenal. My question is can you describe how the momentum felt as you kept turning out incredibly fast.times for over a decade?
You guys need to bring in more guests, especially one who competed against you.
Exactly. Imagine Bolt or Asafa on this show. Or even young Noah Lyles.
Remember Young Obea Moore knocked on that 400m door when he went up against Michael Johnson Olympic Trials
Dream on!!!!!!!
Shoot just run the Gainesville All Stars with Noah Lyles in Fahnbullehs place at the Olympics
14:25 was Smoke he talking about was Tyrese cooper ?
Only way I see something crazy out of USA for the 4x1 would be Coleman, bracy, knighten, Lyle’s.
Very good perspective but usa not taking that 4x100 this year, watch out for that female 4x100 we should have gotten it last yr but this is vengeance. Biggup on ur platform from jamaica.
Justin is definitely one of the best the entire world have ever seen
Just won’t happen. Individually, the current runners are not running record times for the 100. And then, you also need a team to push you. Jamaica set that record when USA also broke the American record(and the previous world record). Then of course the elements you cannot control factors in. They will need to be perfect to break the record
Yep, it's unlikely really. Yohan and Bolt were pretty much close to their prime in that 36.84s WR, so...
Getting the baton around efficiently and effectively is what plagues the American men in the 4x1. If they spend time working on those handoffs, then challenging the WR would be believable. Remember the women’s WR didn’t have any women who ran sub 10.8 except for Carmelita. Today’s American (and Jamaican) sprinters are faster, and both teams still didn’t break 41 seconds for the same reason.
I want to see Coleman Kerley Knighton Lyle’s break the WR. I’m not even from the USA. But that team could be the next level
where can we find the rsg watch list gang
👀👀 we’ll have to do an official list next week ! Stay tapped in
Well obviously America has the top runners right now. There’s no shock to this. Jamaica is also a sprint nation but they are not currently in the Bolt era. So I’d be more shock if Jamaica wins a major title event. They are alot of talent in Jamaica, but we haven’t seen another Asafa, Blake or Bolt level talent yet. Unless Blake can surprise and regain his former form in his last Olympics. America has some serious runners right now.
Only, Tebogo I expect to pull off potential upsets.
Kishane Thompson is special
Honestly Canada seems to be the only threat rn.
@@zawarudozahandozadusto9626Canada 😮..
That group cannot come near to the men's 4x100m WR
Prime Coleman, A slower lyles, a 9.86 gatlin and a okay mike rodgers. Ran 37.10 …,,
@@NarutoJK-jh7tr I guess I'm still waiting for your point....
@@GlobalTee they certainly can get close to the wr
Noah is quicker now
Knighton just ran one of the fastest third legs of all time.
Coleman is Coleman on a first leg not gonna get much better then that
Then they can just pick from any of the other sub 9.9 runners for another member. They have the foot speed to get close. It’s just exchanges. To say they won’t come near us straight up denial
@@NarutoJK-jh7tr Lyles is not going to be significantly faster anchoring. He's slightly faster nowadays in the acceleration phase, not top end speed wise. If you think this USA team can get close to that WR, you're out of your mind.
@@Yes_I_c4n Noah can run like 8.8 and I didn’t say significantly faster I just said slightly and that’s important to mention also his maintenance has improved I.e his 200 improvement. Secondly coleman is obviously gonna be like 10.0. Get another 8.9 on second leg which isn’t that crazy.
And Knighton to replicate what he just ran. All that holds them back is exchanges
Did Rodney run for the Bahamas back in the day?
Favour is coached by Ken Harnden not Leroy. He followed Ken from Tenn to Auburn. Ken has coached the most sub 10s in NCAA History w 6 & has won 6 outdoor 200m & 3 outdoor 100
What if Favour steals a bronze at the Olympics 200m ?
@14:25 don’t forget Jamal Walton
QN; Can you both speculate on which events you think will be taken away by WA as confirmed by its CEO Jon Ridgeon from the new Outdoor Global Champs in '26 (which only has semi & final rounds) in order to fit its 3 Day Schedule (like World Indoors) & which ones y'all would personally take away?
8:05; That 37.67 is 11th on the all-time list just behind SA's 35.65 NR from '19 Doha WC, would've won the Bronze Medal in Budapest last yr just behind Italy's 37.62.
11:35; 16yr old Syd made the Olympic 400mH Team in '16 & finished 5th in her semi in Rio, was a very valuable experience for her & would be the same for 16yr old Quincy. Be funny if he got a 4x4 relay pool spot ahead of Noah :) Wanna see the South Carolina Freshman Phenom & NCAA Indoor 200m Champ JaMeesia Ford who ran 22.37 (0.9) in her outdoor opener & anchored both 4x1 & 4x4 Teams to victory splitting an impressive 49.38 @Florida Relays get more love like all the other current phenoms! Can definitely break Allyson's 20.11 US U20 Record this season! Wanna see her make the relay pool for both Mixed 4x4 & W4x4 Teams in Paris like Alexis Holmes & Rosey Effiong did in Budapest last yr.
What's the source on the Outdoor championships becoming a 3 day event? Just curious because I've been trying to find it and all I can find is that the long jump format is going to change.
@@Calder_ The current Outdoor WC that takes place over 8 or 9 days like in '22, '23, '25 & '27 aren't changing, they're simply introducing a new & shortened version in 'off-years' starting in '26 that takes place over 3 days. Source is the 'Anything but Footy Podcast' Episode #68 with Jon Ridgeon.
Oh I read about that. I interpreted that as being something similar to the World Athletics Final that used to exist from 2003-2009. @@AllInTheGame01
Why do I hear so many track and field athletes leaving from Tennessee?
Gabby claiming her Sp Town father, 🇯🇲
Nope. In fact, I think the current US men 100 athletes have popularity because the rest of the world is doing bad. If you look their times, they are all running 9.8s and 9.9s. Not even 9.7s. They are nowhere near the 2012 era. In fact, they are quite frankly overrated. If a young guy from a country that we probably never heard about win the olympics I wouldn’t be surprise. Cause Lyles, Coleman, Kerley are all running 9.8s. All it takes is for one unknown athlete to have a good race.
Back then you had bolt with 9.5, yohan running 9.6
Overrated = opinion.
4th fastest time in history = Fact.
You decide.
@@islander5334extremely well put
No one else is not close though
The talent is not in question. It's whether or not the USA 4 x 100 team has the cohesion or chemistry to put country above self.
Mboma is Back
The only US team that would stand a chance is Gatlin, Gay Lyles, and Coleman. At their peak. Grant can replace Lyles.
As a Jamaican. If those 4 aren't lined up. I am not worried about it
I think knighten is a gem.
Please stop living in the past as I would like to differ. Coleman, Lyles, Knighton, and Kerley, subject to amending post-US Olympic Trials. Jamaica's team, I will have to stick with the 2023 top athletes: Ackeem Blake, Oblique Seville, Rohan Watson, and the beast Kishane Thompson on anchor, subject to amending post JAAA Oly Trials.
37.6 is ridiculous
After watching Knighten run that 3rd leg in Florida, one can argue that he's the missing piece to the puzzle in breaking the 4x100 world record. Coleman + Kerley, + Knighten + Lyles= world record.
@@actual_random Agreed and t.s 9656's lineup needs to be revised by switching Freddy and Lyles, where both are most suited.
@@actual_random lol, by Billy you mean Bolt, right? Lyles ran 8.90s in Budapest?
Back in 2019 he split 8.78s, didn't he?
I guess it might show 3 things:
- Rounds take its tool
- Lyles top end/speed maintenance might be getting slightly slower than in 2019
- Usain was indeed mighty impressive. He ran 8.70s anchoring the 4x100m in London 2012 after rounds in both the 100 and 200m.
@@actual_random By the way, what's the fastest 10m split that Lyles got in that anchor leg back in 2019?
Note: I understand he split 0.823s in his 9.86s performance.
@@actual_random I think they will be in very good shape this year to challenge I think the only problem will be the changeovers
Julien St Catherine High School 🇯🇲 28:54
Y’all better put some respect on Cambrea Sturgis. She not only was the first double ncaa champ in 2021, she opened her 2022 season with a wind legal 10.87. Y’all better stop disrespecting HBCU products. Also, Sha’Carri ran 22.07 overseas last season while jogging 40 meters with her hands out.
Give Quincy Matt Bolings spot on the mixed team
They would’ve to have two sprinters that can run a 100m in 9.6 & 9.5’s with good baton exchange
Julien has run the 4x400 her entire collegiate career.
I can't wait to see what Julien will do this summer. She can hit 10.70 at some point.
Omar McLeod not that tall. Look out for Broadbell this year. Throw Parchment in the mix and that is a powerful Jamaican team to Paris.
What about the females 4x100 relay that more likely to be broken if not this year.. it’s been on watched
No. The Jamaican's will come for their revenge this year, after losing at the Championships last year. Picture Shericka Jackson (in world record form), Elaine Thompson (seeking a historic third 100m gold), Shelly-Ann (making her last stand) and Natasha Morrison in 4x100 at this Olympics final. Good luck America!
36.85 can be touched by Americans but it needs to be Coleman on first, Holloway on second, Knighton on third, Noah on anchor. I see it
You need glasses.
@@Yes_I_c4n haha, mayba telescope
@@tonybarrett4741 not even telescope can help
Never...not even close...won't happen...wakey wakey
Obea Moore part 2.
Hey, guys can you guys speak on what it was like training on the same track with another pro camp across the track. Were yall snooping and clocking their runs?
Steve Lewis won the Olympic at age 18
I dont think so one of them of to be in 9.58 form
Don’t hold your breath. USA team is full of drama, spills and mishaps.
1. Christian
2. Fred or Grant
3. Erriyon
4. Noah
@@omnicares lmao grant
Yes, Coleman to Halloway to Knighton to N Lyles.
Knighton 3rd leg was crazy this last meet 🔥 🔥🔥🔥🔥😮
Or America can do the usual and screw up their baron exchanges. And a random underdog could win. 🏆
Chemistry is important. Japan proves that, as did the French.
Don’t forget Elzie Coleman
it will never happen to many EGOS and to many OUTSIDE coaches
Hats off to Tebogo for runnjng the 200m final with a hamstring injury and managing to get 3rd
Tebogo is extremely special and while we Jamaicans intend to win the 100m, he is going to be very dangerous in the 200m
I want yal, Marvin Bracy and whoever to set up a 4x100 with tyreek and whomever the fasteest in the nfl🤷🏿♂️🤣🤣🤣we know the outcome but lets set it up anyway
USA 🇺🇸 already beat Jamaica last year at the World Track & Field and it will be done again this year in Paris Olympic Make & Female 👑🇺🇸💪🏻💪🏽💪🏿✔️
We'll see...that was last year..
I HOPE THEY DON'T BURN HIM OUT( WILSON)
Apologies, but no team of today will ever beat the extraordinary Jamaican 4x100 team which had history’s 2 fastest men ever.
You should have the worlds top 2 fastest sprinters, at the same time, peaking/being at their prime with other two absolute beast sprinters with superior experience in high pressure competitions.
Then you would have to absolutely get the baton exchange not just smooth, but also right without wasting even 1/10th of a millisecond. On top of which, everyone in the team must have or should be capable to run 9.7change on a high pressure day.
After all this, you must be extremely confident and lucky to get the inside lanes so that victory is always in sight..
And even after all this, there is still a huge doubt if weather, temperature, mental conditions, race fatigue and other parameters are favourable to you.
When the absolute best USA team of legends like Gatlin and literally Cheetahs like Tyson gay couldn’t beat it, it shows what a big ask and a mountain of a task this is.
To put in a single word : NO ❤
Yes they will. The record should have been lower with Blake bolt and Powell. Not like they had stellar handoffs
@@namesake7139 im certain they wont, but we shall see. And the record they have (previous 2 atleast) had No Powell.
It was carter, frater, Blake and Bolt on both 2011 Daegu and 2012 London.
Both had great handoffs.
@@Iyengar7 my point being is they did not break the record with the three best 100-m runners in history
@@namesake7139 yes, i get it. Unfortunately they did not have all 3 in their prime and injury free at any point. Sadly
@@Iyengar7 furthermore the Jamaican women should definitely have the record in the 4 by 1.
Paris USA men will break 4x100 record
Shacari breaking flo Jo 100 and 200
All usa
Extremely unlikely.
You have Bolt vs Lyles (Bolt takes it by 0.1s)
You have Yohan vs Knighton (Yohan takes it by 0.1s)
Frater vs crippled Kerley? (Frater takes it by likely 0.1s)
Carter vs Coleman (similar splits probably)
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@@Yes_I_c4n Carter and Frater were in around 9.90-9.95 shape Coleman would take Carter by 0.1s minimum and Kerley, Bednarek and potentially Holloway would take Frater by 0.1s but it doesn't mean anything if they don't get the changeovers right but usa do have the ability to go sub 37.
Keep dreaming, and keep hope alive, the fastest Americans in history couldn’t do it so why these 4? Ain’t none of them ran faster than you JG, or tyson for that matter, good talking point though, but I can name four current Jamaicans that can run sub 10secs currently so why not say they can break the record?
No yall won't 😂😂😂
That fellow has zero chance to make the US 400m team. Talent pool too deep.
Nation Date Place Ref
1 36.84 Nesta Carter, Michael Frater, Yohan Blake, Usain Bolt Jamaica 11 August 2012 London [12]
2
37.04 X Trell Kimmons, Justin Gatlin, Tyson Gay, Ryan Bailey United States 11 August 2012 London [13]
37.10 Christian Coleman, Justin Gatlin, Mike Rodgers, Noah Lyles United States 5 October 2019 Doha [14]
3 37.36 Adam Gemili, Zharnel Hughes, Richard Kilty, Nethaneel Mitchell-Blake Great Britain 5 October 2019 Doha [14]
4 37.43 Shuhei Tada, Kirara Shiraishi, Yoshihide Kiryu, Abdul Hakim Sani Brown Japan 5 October 2019 Doha [14]
5 37.48 Aaron Brown, Jerome Blake, Brendon Rodney, Andre De Grasse Canada 23 July 2022 Eugene [15]
6 37.50 Lorenzo Patta, Marcell Jacobs, Fausto Desalu, Filippo Tortu Italy 6 August 2021 Tokyo [16]
7 37.62 Darrel Brown, Marc Burns, Emmanuel Callander, Richard Thompson Trinidad and Tobago 22 August 2009 Berlin
8 37.65 Thando Dlodlo, Simon Magakwe, Clarence Munyai, Akani Simbine South Africa 4 October 2019 Doha [17]
9 37.72 Rodrigo do Nascimento, Vitor Hugo dos Santos, Derick Silva, Paulo André de Oliveira Brazil 5 October 2019 Doha [14]
10 37.79 Su Bingtian, Xu Zhouzheng, Wu Zhiqiang, Xie Zhenye China 4 October 2019 Doha [18]
Tang Xingqiang, Xie Zhenye, Su Bingtian, Wu Zhiqiang China 6 August 2021 Tokyo [19]
Max Morinière, Daniel Sangouma, Jean-Charles Trouabal, Bruno Marie-Rose France 1 September 1990 Split
You guys are only mentioning men sprinters when answering that last question.
What about Allyson Felix running 400, 200 and 100?!🫡