Aragorn speaks in Rohirric // The Two Towers
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- Опубліковано 22 лис 2021
- #lotr #rohirric #thetwotowers
Aragorn is telling stand still to Brego whose horse of Theodred son of Theoden, soon after his death.
LOTR
The Lord of the Rings
The Return of The King
Quenya
Elvish
Dwarvish
Rohirric
Khuzdul
Orkish
Dark Speech
Hobbit - Фільми й анімація
"Turn this fellow free; he has seen enough of war"......oh my heart; you can feel how this came from the depths of Tolkien, having been in WW1. He lived on but so many of his friends did not.
Brilliant, yes. We see a shell-shocked animal rather than a person. LotR is a Shakespearean take on WWII-- but modern warfare and trauma are lurking there. They don't match the language about kings and chivalry; they don't add up to a tidy fable.
Apparently this wasn't in the books, this was introduced from the movies. A nice example of the movies adding an element to the books.
@@CbusEJ Yes of course. That is not in the books. But it fits perfectly with Aragorn sensibility, because many times in the books he takes care of his horses in the elven manner...
@@SuperRobertoClemente Horses died in WW1. I loved the scene where Brago returned and saved Aragorn.
@@janesgems7 I never made the connection before.
You can tell Viggo is a natural horseman. He knows to keep his tone soft, move slowly, and avert his gaze. Averting one’s gaze when addressing a frantic horse is important because horses see hard eye contact as a challenge and a threat. I learned that when I volunteered at a horse rescue for abused horses as a kid.
I learned some new things, thanks to you. 😃
Animals can be very different, no doubt in their ways of life and communication. If enough time and patience is given then they all can be our friends once we understand them.
he made sure to bond with the horse IRL so that it would be visible on camera. like he'd spend off hours at the stable brushing him, talking to him, taking him out for a spin, slept in the stable several times... and when filming wrapped, he bought the horse and took him home
Why don’t you just blow Vigo then like you did to your horses when volunteering
@@Skinhound whoa dude, that's one sick and asinine comment....
I've seen The Lord Of The Rings a thousand times and I'm still impressed by Aragorn's character, he is incredible...
Virgo was such an incredible piece of casting
@@vaas1205 Agreed, but it's also the writing. Not just the book, but the script writing for the movie as well. Look up the episode of Cinema Therapy on UA-cam about how Aragorn is a prime example of non-toxic masculinity.
@@RudyBleeker If there ever was an archtype for me to aspire to it would be Aragorn.
Everything went just right in this trilogy
This scene is made more powerful when Brego later finds Aragorn and carries him to Helms Deep after his fall from the Cliff. When you factor in how all life connected, especially in this Universe, the bond between Aragorn and Brego is that much more impactful.
Holy shit man
I never realized that
Thanks
@@consumedbydeceit5942 Wtf ? It's the same horse ?! Epic, after all theses years this movie still surprises me, thanks for the information !
Oh, dang! I never realized it's the same house!
Edit: lol I said "house" instead of "horse."
You truly are a keen observer, did you glean this from reading the books or just by watching the movies? Thanks for sharing!
@@trinidad2450 It must have been the movie. That scene where he falls from the cliff never happens in the book.
Gotta give it to that horse, hes a great actor
This is only shown in the extended version. Leaving it in makes so much more sense to the eventual story.
True that
Brego later rescues Aragorn - the circle is complete.
So it was Rohirric and Sindarin as well. Neat!
Tolkien would have seen a great many dead dying and traumatised horse's, even at the outbreak of the second WW Germany had and used huge numbers of horses in army service.
Man or horse... In those who see it, it endures.
The other Story telling of that time is Pullmans, War horse.
Michael Morpurgo?
@@lauriemoore7220
Yes sorry wrong Author for some reason i forgot the one but remembered the other..
No problem hearing Viggo Mortenson being Danish in that clip. You could hear the kartoffel move in his throat
he was in his element because the rohirrim are based on scandinavian/german folk
@@warbossgrotsmasha23 They’re based on the Anglo-Saxons, albeit as mounted warriors.
@@Gala-yp8nx yeah, even their nomenclature sounded anglo-saxonish who were germanic as an ethnic group, tolkien loved germanic/scandinavian folklore from where he got his trolls, elves, dwarves and dragons and another parallel to the anglo-saxon of the real world is how the rohirrim got their land, they settled the old gondorian province of calenardhon in a similar fashion how the saxons were invited to settle into great britain after the roman withdraw (gondor being akin to rome to a degree)
A true nordic king!
Viggo is actually speaking the Mercian dialect of Anglo-Saxon here (i.e. the form of Old English that today's English is descended from). Since Tolkien rendered Westron (the Common Tongue of Middle-earth) as English, he wanted to illustrate the relation between Westron and Rohirric by rendering Rohirric as Old English.
Another commenter on UA-cam named Dow5544 pointed out this is the horse that saved Aragon and got him to safety after the fall. Aragorn retired this horse after his time in battle,and the horse Commissioned himself a last mission to save Aragorn.
I can't imagine The Hunt for Gollum without Viggo. If he looks too old, they can make him younger with CGI, like they did Harrison Ford in the most recent Indiana Jones movie.
Note that I said "most recent Indiana Jones movie" and not "last Indiana Jones movie."
It never occurred to me until now, but Brego probably contributed to my fondness for dark bays. When I was eighteen I bought a Brego and Aragorn action figure, shortly after the Two Towers had come out. I had no real attachment to horses beyond an interest in model soldier painting. But the quality of the sculpt and the bond between Aragorn and Brego (and unknown to me at the time, Viggo Mortenson and Uraeus) did all the things good film and merchandise ought to. I collected many other characters, but never felt the need to collect the grey Shadowfax and Gandalf. Ten years later I started horse riding, and every dark bay I've ridden has looked after me and I've felt an instinctive fondness for them over all other horse colourings. By contrast, I've never felt much for greys beyond a general fondness for all equines. My first loan was a dark bay with a white star on his poll, very much like Brego here, though I did not make the connection until now. He started out as a worrier, but went on to love skill at arms with sword and lance, and even showed some tactical brilliance. One day, when attacking a mock up of an infantry square, he insisted on cantering diagonally to the edge of the mock-up, doing an oblique march like Frederick the Great at Leuthen, or Alexander the Great at Guagamela. I was deliberately trying to make a failed frontal charge, to feel the difficulty of Napoleonic cavalry charging infantry squares. But he was having none of it, and only when he found the gap in the mock-up that I had left due to lack of materials, did he put himself into walk and give control over to me, as though to say 'now you can use your sabre.'
I thought he was speaking Elvish as Eowyn remarks...
Aragorn is so perfect. I wanna learn to speak Rohirrim, it sounds like Gaelic
It's Old English.
How dare you mix it up with that poofy garlic
@@mrkitcatt2119 Old English actually shares some of phonological features with Gaelic (at least Irish, I'm unfamilliar with Scottish), despite not being closely related, such as the transformation of /g/ into /j/ when surrounded by front vowels like /i/ or /e/.
It does sound similar to Gaelic.
The entire culture of Rohan -- art, script, architecture, weapons, language , apart from the horses, is based on Anglo-Saxon.
Viggo is a gem of a person. Look up his history especially that of horses ❤ this looks so natural and effortless because it was.
Watch from 30 seconds on. Viggo knows horses and how to calm them. Please look up what he does in real life. He's such a badass and has a heart of gold.
took me years to understand that aragorn knew the horse was afraid / not in mood for war .. thats why he said to let him loose
I think Aragorn's solemn tone is symbolic for Aragorn himself wanting to be free of war. But he knows that he must go on to fulfill his duty as heir to the throne of Gondor. He gives Brego the freedom he himself wishes for deeply.
Amazing work! We need more scenes like this with the proper subtitles of the languages. Thank you!
Fun fact; this was not in the script. The horse went half mad during filming, and Aragorn (pretending to be an actor named "Viggo") came to calm the horse.
One reason why I love aaragon that 😇
It's a beautiful scene, one of my favorite. Aragorn has compassion even for animals...
@@SuperRobertoClemente As a ranger would.
Brago is a fine a horse as many.
RANGER uses lvl3 ANIMAL EMPATHY. It's Super Effective!
First time seeing this scene 😱😱
Rohirr? I assumed it was sindar as eowyn mentions 'elven magic'
Aragorn is the man we should strive to be. The very ideal of masculinity.
Fine I'll rewatch LOTR again
He’s speaking elvish
Rohirric is exactly like Old English.
Isn't it Sindarin?
Continue postando vídeos por favor!!!
I will but I have no time :( I have hobbit movie replics too. I want to post them need to edit first.
@@yanad_durinul awesome!🧙🏻♂️
Grande Omega San. Nunca desaponta 🤝
@@camilofonseca2073 Lotr vem em primeiro lugar pra mim quando se trata de cultura Nerd!
E como diria Gandalf:
*_Um Encontro Inesperado_* 🍃
👑👑👑
In-universe Rohirric is real-world Old English, right?
yeah it is similar. but we should not degrade tolkiens legacy. all the languages he created are perfect and give another dimension for upcoming fantasy literature.
its a language invented by tolkein but its heavily influenced by saxon and norse.
verry very close
Not exactly. As explained in the Appendices of LotR, Rohirric is a completely fictional language of Mannish origin, which in-universe has no relation to English, but instead is related to Westron (the Common Tongue). However, as Tolkien situated his work as a 'translator' of the Red Book of the Westmarch, he chose to 'translate' all references to Westron as English, and all references to Rohirric as true Old-English, his specialty. So in-universe Rohirric is not Old-English and Westron is not English, but they are represented in the books by those two. For example, 'Hobbit' is actually 'Kudûk' and 'Samwise/Sam' is actually 'Banazîr/Ban'.
Still, Tolkien goes to great lengths to write long texts in those two languages and present them as 'translations' of the actual texts in those two languages, which are themselves scarcely attested in any of his writings.
Hope this helps.
He's not speaking Rohirric.... It's Sindarin, which is ancient elvish.
He speaks both languages in this scene.
@@xavierreichel8254 So why this old video doesn't say that?
It’s elvish
I believe what Aragorn is speaking is not Rohirric, but Sindarin.
elvish parts are blue-green, rohirrics are white. there are two difrnt languages and parts are not certain. I am open to suggestions
@@yanad_durinul when you think of it, it makes no sense that Aragorn speaks Rohirric in this scene and literal Rohirrims speak the Common Tongue, I mean, it would be more logical if they spoke their native language (I get that the Common Tongue is also native for most of the folks of the Middle-Earth, but still, Rohirric is their mother tongue) to a horse, or to each other, and to Aragorn when they heard him talking in Rohirric. I have always thought he was speaking only Elvish in this scene. But now that I see the subs, I can see the language is very close to Old English, therefore, it must really be Rohirric and not Sindarin. But it makes no sense to me!
@@elly_hermione Stille nu might be rohirric i am not sure, but every full sentence Aragorn speaks is Sindarin.
Anglo saxon baby
Don't know how Aragorn could resist the temptation of Eowyn so easily. IMO she is more atractive than Arwen. Of course, looks aren't everything, the years of relationship, personality and all do matter, but just saying... Eowyn is cute.
I agree, even tho For me arwen is prettier i prefer eowyn bc she so funny and sweet, also strong ans skilled, but that just show how this stuff depends on preference. Still i feel like this two fit better, but aragorn is a loyal man, loyal to his years of knowing and loving arwen.
Book wise, he was already enamoured with Arwen and while he may have seen Eowyn as attractive, he couldn’t heal her inward pain. She didn’t really love Aragorn but only a shadow.
The key is that despite his looks, Aragorn is around 87 years old here. In the Appendices at the end of Return of the King it's hinted that he'd served under Denethor's father. He'd met Arwen when he was 20 and more or less commenced their relationship back then. He's not a 20 or 30 year old choosing between options. He's a mature adult choosing a deep, long standing relationship. Additionally, Eowyn is young and immature to him and he recognizes as others have pointed out she's not in love with him as a person so much as with the idea of the freedom and adventure that he represents. It makes a lot more sense if you view it as analogous to a good, honorable, older man in our society choosing to remain loyal to his beloved wife of many years when a young model is offering him a relationship.
Éowyn is beautiful and Viggo was the perfect Aragorn. Peter Jackson was a genius.
Imagine Aragorn interpreted by Nicolas Cage...
that's not rohirric. that's elvish
I love you.
lac is defred, gefraegon?
The translation doesn't work for me. Gegfreagon is very similar to the Dutch word :gevragen. Which means : asked. The translation is very loose: a battle has stirred up, you heard?
I read it as :A battle has stirred up, I ask? Which in a colloquial translation would be more like; 'A battle has stirred up, hasn't it?'
Old english
those discussions are one of the most desired purpose of mine to making these videos. and I am always open to suggestions about translation
@@yanad_durinul then you will love this video and channel by a guy who studies languages and discusses the evolution of english. ua-cam.com/video/oFX1nbD3dV0/v-deo.html
Sam Roper is his name.
@@redterrorproductions1373 and old norse. Rohirric is a constructed language-not actual old english, I thought?
@@roddo1955 not quite, from what I can tell it is purely just plain old mercian English.
That Rohirric sounds awful like danish. Fæste means in danish "to keep something in place" and "stille nu" means directly "quiet now"
Its old english :) tolkiens inspiration for rohan was the anglo saxons
@@CB-lh4ph Well, one can clearly see the late northern anglo-danish language connection, for I can read all of the old English lines as if it was my great grandmother speaking.
Viggo is Danish...
@@koppadasao i know
@@POLITICUS-DANICUS Ved du hvad? Jeg skulle måske sige, «davs, danske»
He keeps Brego tho
so Aragon is speaking Rohirric or Elvish？
Both! the first part of the scene is Rohirric, then the last two lines are elvish (sindarin)
Rohirric and alot of the common tongues were based in Elvish.
@@Cam-ss9rb Thanks for clearing that up. Now I see the font changed on screen with the transition between Elvish and Rohirric.
He is speaking old english.
@@traptinreality2668 All languages of middle earth, even the black speech, are forms or descendants of Elvish. So you are correct, but it was not alot it was all.
Is this in the movies! I don't think so
if it isn't in the normal version, it definitely is in the extended one
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Horsemen language
Aragorn speak in langage elfique, no speak Rohirric 😑
He speaks both. First part is rohirric, thats why eowyn is able to answer the question of the horses name (she speaks no elvish and would not have understood the question, had he asked in Sindarin). Later on he switches to Sindarin (elvish), thats marked by the blue font in the subtitle. Eowyn comments on that change in the following sentence, stating her surprise to see a ranger from the north casting elvish magic.
Eowyn over Arwen all day long
*in elvish
No it's old english
@@redterrorproductions1373 it's Mercian English and Sindarin in this scene. Blue text is Sindarin, white text is Mercian.
He speaks swedish