Jacqui Smith needs to give us our money back but I love the genuine look of panic on her face when that gentleman asked her when she's going to pay it back.
If a member of the general public tried to use the argument of ''I didn't know the rules'' to the Police or the tax man they would still be prosecuted under UK law. The panel accepted that members of Parliament shouldn't be above the law, then they should be charged with fraud. Regardless of if you paid back the money or not, you still committed fraud!!
Bercow had the nerve to go on from his own expense scandal to become the most corrupt speaker in history! He tried to scupper the biggest democratic vote in the nations history by behind the scenes skullduggery! And then Corbyn lobbied for him to go into the house of lords!
Nothing changed? They are all getting massive gear on year pay rises through an independent body and can all say well it’s not me I was told how much I was getting, we don’t vote on it anymore . . . More gravy than ever!
What is equally appalling is she tried to say it was because she was a woman that she was being scrutinized. The audacity of her is almost unbelievable, but that is what people expect from politicians nowadays. She should be in prison now and should have all of her assets taken off of her for stealing from us!
I had a night shift job in a factory ---12 hour shift and took 3 buses to get there and 3 buses to get home ---travelling time to and from work was just short of 6 hours----my expenses were FUCK ALL---my heart bleeds for these thieving bastards
It's not as simple as that. You had choices, like moving closer to work, or finding a job closer to home (and yes, I know that's easier said than done). MP's have no choice if they live in a constituency far from London. I'm not defending the thieving scumbags like Smith, but there are actual genuine expenses that come with living and working in separate cities. As Joe Millwood says, there are some 'expenses' like food that obviously should be paid for out of one's salary, and it's astounding that they could ever claim for such things. All my point is, is that we should a bit more nuanced with this issue. If we paid MPs the bare minimum, only the wealthy could afford to do the job. The fact that many of these people already are wealthy and still screw expenses, well that's another debate.
For Gods sake she was home secretary! In the old days she would have power over life and death in the case of the death penalty being imposed. She is clearly not suitable for a such a position..We must never give such powers to people of desperately low morality again. Think hard before you vote.She still wont except her own guilt.
Joking aside that is the way to do it,an olympic type village for MP's who qualify for a London home under the current regs,that way the get voted out ,they leave,,and the next one takes it's place,so no profit scam,and maybe we will see whos in it for the right reasons.Simple really
It is high time that the British Parliament was moved to a purpose built centre of politics. Where there is a hotel type accommodation with connecting suites for the members staff and office equipment, then there'd be no second home crap, no super high expenses. How much is the land that the present parliament is built on worth????
2:15 If someone made a false statement to claim benefits, they would still be prosecuted and fined, even if the amount they falsely claim, was less than what they were actually entitled to.
‘Normal’ thieves don’t get the option to pay back their ill gotten gains..they just go to jail their intentions were clear...and so it should be for these political thieves..a total disgrace..stop MP’s expenses altogether they already get £80k per year..any other expenses should come out of their pay-same as us plebs... Jess Phillips claimed £207,000 in expenses last year-£50k went to her husband..clearly scamming the public purse whilst talking about ‘helping the poor’ 🤦🏼♂️
The system didn't break down, greedy MP's took advantage of loopholes just like a tax evading accountant. They should chose a modest sized flat that the gov pays for and when they leave parliament it goes back to the Gov for the next MP. Also, what Balls and Cooper did in claiming for both properties is an absolute scandal.
See at the point of 1st agreeing and discussing the claims for expenses when did mps think they were to make a profit from them. If They were given wages based on performance they be owing us money.. Utter greed
I don't think MP's should pay us back. Instead, we should have access to everything that they claimed. That way, they would think twice before ever claiming on taxpayers money. Also, I really want to see what videos Mr. Smith was watching, but that's a side point
For people in positions of trust an apology for wrongdoing is just not acceptable they should resign and if they don't they should be fired and prosecuted
If an MP needs accommodation in London for Parliamentary business then they should use the hotels that ordinary folk use when working away from home. There are numerous hotal chains available....Premier for example.
They new exactly what they were doing. They wasn't planning on being caught. They are bright enough to know it's wrong. Now caught They're playing dumb.
None of them can say that a shamed MP should not be allowed to go to the Lords because 1) that was always supposed to be their career path and 2) just in case they do something bad in the future!
This made me laugh, it's like a Ricki Gervais comedy or a Little Britain sketch. Regardless of whatever the rules were, there is a total and complete lack of moral conscience.
Who the hell knows any one who has been able to buy a house with expenses, really, I know a few people who don't have to worry about housing as the they were thrown out their homes when the pencil pushers who got it wrong put them there.
looked up the 2009 Expenses Scandal - ISLINGTON North MP was the lowest expenses claimer in the country - after putting in for just 8.70 for an ink cartridge. his name... ...Jeremy Corbyn, call him what you like (dog whistle) he's not a crook.
Should’ve, would’ve, could’ve didn’t. Don’t forgive the thieves, prosecute them to the full extent of the law! just because they Pay back the money does not negate the offence.
She resigned as Home Secretary on 5 June 2009 following her involvement in the United Kingdom parliamentary expenses scandal in which she had falsely claimed that a room in her sister's house was her main home. Re google
@ashleelmb do you really think this is the worst thing politicians have ever done? if afew million here and there annoys you, try billions on nhs IT services, and im sure the contracts werent offered to friends first right?
he defendant's conduct must be dishonest; his/her intention must be to make a gain; or cause a loss or the risk of a loss to another. No gain or loss needs actually to have been made. The maximum sentence is 10 years' imprisonment
I think claiming for adult movies is wrong and that's why when it was brought to my attention I paid the money back. So it wasn't 'brought to your attention' when you claimed it? Disgusting lies. And to be honest, not really surprised your husband was watching those films. I'd choose them over having a go on a lying despicable thief just like he did. What's worse? Being a sick undeniable thief or knowing your husband would rather watch porn than climb on top of you?
Go to jail, go directly to jail and do not claim £116,000
Jacqui Smith needs to give us our money back but I love the genuine look of panic on her face when that gentleman asked her when she's going to pay it back.
Looks to David for help 😂😂😂😂
If a member of the general public tried to use the argument of ''I didn't know the rules'' to the Police or the tax man they would still be prosecuted under UK law.
The panel accepted that members of Parliament shouldn't be above the law, then they should be charged with fraud.
Regardless of if you paid back the money or not, you still committed fraud!!
Ignorance is no excuse , that's law .
Its now ten years on and little or nothing has changed. corrupt as hell.
It's probably worse, covid hasn't helped
Bercow had the nerve to go on from his own expense scandal to become the most corrupt speaker in history! He tried to scupper the biggest democratic vote in the nations history by behind the scenes skullduggery! And then Corbyn lobbied for him to go into the house of lords!
Nothing changed? They are all getting massive gear on year pay rises through an independent body and can all say well it’s not me I was told how much I was getting, we don’t vote on it anymore . . . More gravy than ever!
What is equally appalling is she tried to say it was because she was a woman that she was being scrutinized. The audacity of her is almost unbelievable, but that is what people expect from politicians nowadays. She should be in prison now and should have all of her assets taken off of her for stealing from us!
I had a night shift job in a factory ---12 hour shift and took 3 buses to get there and 3 buses to get home ---travelling time to and from work was just short of 6 hours----my expenses were FUCK ALL---my heart bleeds for these thieving bastards
David your comment is spot on mate.Fucking greedy thieving bastards.
Food expenses are a massive joke
It's not as simple as that. You had choices, like moving closer to work, or finding a job closer to home (and yes, I know that's easier said than done). MP's have no choice if they live in a constituency far from London. I'm not defending the thieving scumbags like Smith, but there are actual genuine expenses that come with living and working in separate cities.
As Joe Millwood says, there are some 'expenses' like food that obviously should be paid for out of one's salary, and it's astounding that they could ever claim for such things. All my point is, is that we should a bit more nuanced with this issue. If we paid MPs the bare minimum, only the wealthy could afford to do the job. The fact that many of these people already are wealthy and still screw expenses, well that's another debate.
@@johnbull1568 Nonsense. There's right and wrong.
They are thieves plain and simple!
If we did it we would be in jail!
For Gods sake she was home secretary! In the old days she would have power over life and death in the case of the death penalty being imposed. She is clearly not suitable for a such a position..We must never give such powers to people of desperately low morality again. Think hard before you vote.She still wont except her own guilt.
What did he mean, "The public will never trust politicians AGAIN"?! Who trusted the bastards to begin with?!
Government should build soviet type flats for these crooks, keep them all in the same place !!
Joking aside that is the way to do it,an olympic type village for MP's who qualify for a London home under the current regs,that way the get voted out ,they leave,,and the next one takes it's place,so no profit scam,and maybe we will see whos in it for the right reasons.Simple really
Yeah I mud huts is good enough for crooked mps
It is high time that the British Parliament was moved to a purpose built centre of politics. Where there is a hotel type accommodation with connecting suites for the members staff and office equipment, then there'd be no second home crap, no super high expenses. How much is the land that the present parliament is built on worth????
2:15 If someone made a false statement to claim benefits, they would still be prosecuted and fined, even if the amount they falsely claim, was less than what they were actually entitled to.
That's so true, it's one rule for them and a different rule for the rest.
They're not truly sorry. They are only sorry that they were caught.
‘Normal’ thieves don’t get the option to pay back their ill gotten gains..they just go to jail their intentions were clear...and so it should be for these political thieves..a total disgrace..stop MP’s expenses altogether they already get £80k per year..any other expenses should come out of their pay-same as us plebs...
Jess Phillips claimed £207,000 in expenses last year-£50k went to her husband..clearly scamming the public purse whilst talking about ‘helping the poor’ 🤦🏼♂️
They thought this was dishonest. Bring on Brexit
They stole the money
Yeah I think it's still Continue I Bet
The system didn't break down, greedy MP's took advantage of loopholes just like a tax evading accountant. They should chose a modest sized flat that the gov pays for and when they leave parliament it goes back to the Gov for the next MP. Also, what Balls and Cooper did in claiming for both properties is an absolute scandal.
Elliott Morley was imprisoned but only served a quarter of his sentence. Even when they are caught out they are treated differently to the rest of us.
Smith is a classic 'politician'. She was forced to admit her guilt but she did so with eyes wide open and much brazen waffle.
all aboard the gravy train, you people allow it so don't complain
And what’s your contribution to opposing it?
1.36 never a more guilt-ridden look.....
What gets me is when they start claiming for things, don't they sit there and think "nope, porn movies shouldn't be claimed as an expense"
"I believe that there will be prosecutions and some MPs will end up in jail."
Nope.avi
See at the point of 1st agreeing and discussing the claims for expenses when did mps think they were to make a profit from them. If They were given wages based on performance they be owing us money.. Utter greed
I don't think MP's should pay us back.
Instead, we should have access to everything that they claimed. That way, they would think twice before ever claiming on taxpayers money.
Also, I really want to see what videos Mr. Smith was watching, but that's a side point
He probably needed them just look at Mrs Smith
Crooks ... simple as!
And 10 years later things are much better and now we all trust MPs lol.
The representative of Wale`s is quite right, everything this man said is completely right.
Theft is theft.
For people in positions of trust an apology for wrongdoing is just not acceptable they should resign and if they don't they should be fired and prosecuted
BUILD THEM A HOTEL JUST FOR MPS...
If an MP needs accommodation in London for Parliamentary business then they should use the hotels that ordinary folk use when working away from home. There are numerous hotal chains available....Premier for example.
They new exactly what they were doing. They wasn't planning on being caught. They are bright enough to know it's wrong. Now caught They're playing dumb.
why should they stay in their job they should be sacked , and taken to court as I would be !!!
116000 Lies
None of them can say that a shamed MP should not be allowed to go to the Lords because 1) that was always supposed to be their career path and 2) just in case they do something bad in the future!
This made me laugh, it's like a Ricki Gervais comedy or a Little Britain sketch.
Regardless of whatever the rules were, there is a total and complete lack of moral conscience.
Pure bare faced greed!
GIVE IT BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK!!
Please reform the system, for those who genuinely steal because they are hungry, that they be let off.
It's 2020 and the public still think they are robbing bastards.
That's because they are.
Her husband claimed mucky videos on expenses!
Who the hell knows any one who has been able to buy a house with expenses, really, I know a few people who don't have to worry about housing as the they were thrown out their homes when the pencil pushers who got it wrong put them there.
MPs dont have to be told its wrong they know its wrong until they get caught
ARGH you got us, you witty yank!
No they didn't go to jail did they 😉
yeah cheers for the kind regards.
It's never been any different. People in positions of power have always money grabbed and cheated. How do you think accountants earn their money?
A system that doesn’t have accountability breeds criminals.
Full of apologies and excuses, but would this have been the case if they hadn't been found out?
Elfyn, its 10 years and your right,we don't trust MP's.
... wait till we get to the 11 year mark
Thief.
looked up the 2009 Expenses Scandal - ISLINGTON North MP was the lowest expenses claimer in the country - after putting in for just 8.70 for an ink cartridge.
his name...
...Jeremy Corbyn, call him what you like (dog whistle) he's not a crook.
all mps pay expenses back fraud in secret?
Should’ve, would’ve, could’ve didn’t. Don’t forgive the thieves, prosecute them to the full extent of the law! just because they
Pay back the money does not negate the offence.
What planet are these people on that they refer to "homes" plural. And this is still going on. Nothing has changed.
Bent MPs and bent commissioners.
She resigned as Home
Secretary on 5 June 2009 following her involvement in the United Kingdom
parliamentary expenses scandal in which she had falsely claimed that a
room in her sister's house was her main home. Re google
And 2 pornographic movies
@ashleelmb do you really think this is the worst thing politicians have ever done? if afew million here and there annoys you, try billions on nhs IT services, and im sure the contracts werent offered to friends first right?
he defendant's conduct must be dishonest; his/her intention must be to make a gain; or cause a loss or the risk of a loss to another. No gain or loss needs actually to have been made. The maximum sentence is 10 years' imprisonment
1:28 I came in like a wrecking ball
The look in her face! She looks fuming that she’s been caught, she doesn’t regret doing it at all
What does he mean that people that have been caught out shouldn't go to the house of lords, what about Jeffrey Archer et al!
Pating the money back? Thieves don't usually get that option! You should be in Jail!
No integrity on the panel except for John sergeant.
Thatcher’s Legacy in action.
How many MPs went to jail ? can you name one
Eric Morley for claiming a non-existent mortgage.
@@cliffordhatton4444 Thanks for info
Eric Morley went to open prison
Thief
Thieves plain and simple....
Why is a man wearing a poppy on the 29th September ?
"Until some of the worst perpetrators are put through that mill, the public will never trust us again."
We never have.
dodgein questions mp never answere questions
Well I'm still keeping the fucking money
Oh no! Not again! Your wit is like a rapier.
Scroungers
BLA BLA BLA
I think claiming for adult movies is wrong and that's why when it was brought to my attention I paid the money back. So it wasn't 'brought to your attention' when you claimed it? Disgusting lies. And to be honest, not really surprised your husband was watching those films. I'd choose them over having a go on a lying despicable thief just like he did. What's worse? Being a sick undeniable thief or knowing your husband would rather watch porn than climb on top of you?
Maybe she didn't want to F him and told him to watch porn, it's "free" anyways... She looks like the type that wouldn't put out anyways.
WELL DONE JACQUI SMITH!