Best Small Bump Compliance Fork? DVO Diamond D1 vs. Fox 36 Grip2 with a Vorsprung Smashpot Shootout!
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- I made a comparison of two great forks and determined which one handles a diverse trail with drops, jumps, steep chutes, and lots of chatter better. Small bump compliance in the chatter equals speed, and speed is king on trails where momentum means clearing obstacles. Which fork would you choose?
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OMG, you swallowed that one at :49 🤣 Good video though. I’m running a Z1 coil spring kit in a Fox Rhythm 36 and I love it! I literally can’t find anything that I don’t like about it. It’s a good match for the 2024 X2 in the rear. With this setup, it surprises me, how much speed I’m able to carry, everywhere.
That is a good setup. And it had to go somewhere, no spitting on the floor....haha
@@LoamRoamer 🤣
Good comparison. I just bought the DIamond D1, + Topaz combo, and am loving it for all of the same reasons. I am honestly surprised by how much more traction I am getting on high speed turns and going over high-speed small bumps.
That's awesome to hear!
Vorsprung makes a kit for the DVO Onyx SC... which is absolutely magical.
Great comparison! Now I want to check out that DVO!
Thanks for the awesome review. Trying to find the plushest fork out there and was about to settle on the smashpot conversion. But this is exactly what I was looking for!
Awesome, enjoy the fork you choose. If you have any set up questions feel free to message.
@@LoamRoamer Thank you so much, might take you up on that offer! Keep up with the great content.
Follow up on my question. Grip 2. I did lower low speed and high speed compression.
Thanks again
great vid, thanks.
yes sick dude
I was wondering if you still ride with the D1 and if it holds together with time. Nice video by the way
I have a dvo onyx D1 and looking to run a coil rearshock. Aside from looks, Which one would you run on your bike? my two choices are the super delux ultimate coil or the dvo jade x coil. I'm leaning towards the rockshock because is more adjustable like the dvo D1 fork but I would.like to hear your thought, fire away....
I recently tested the new Rockshox coil with hydraulic bottom out and it was fantastic. I am now running it on my Firebird!
Thanks for this subject matter. Do the comparison again with. Vorsprung Secus equiped fork
I have one, they are not as good as the DVO.
Can you confirm Smashpot has a DVO Diamond Kit? I thought it was Onyx only.
Hey, nice video! Im planing to convert my Fox38 (180mm) with Vorsprung Smashpot coil. Its an Nicolai Emtb heavy and im tall/heavy. My system weight about 140kg easy. Vorsprung suggests 60lb spring. Is that coil set up good for heavy riders? What spring rate I should pick, maybe 65lb, being 180mm of travel. In general I run EXT era v2 180mm and Fox38 grip2, both works well, I just want completely remove small bumps :))
Thanks in advance.
Vorsprung is usually very good, make sure you added about 15lbs to your weight for the e-bike variance, and use the spring rate at firm. likely 65 as you point out. It is very good for heavy riders!
would be fun if you tried to compare them to a mezzer pro
I have ridden the Mezzer, my buddy has one. I want to review it, I already have some feelings about it from working on it.
@@LoamRoamer cool. Looking forward to watching it.
we have big bump chatter in socal so different suspension is better
Ride there plenty. I prefer the Onyx there, but a 36 works fine. The 38 or Zen is cool guy stuff unless you send very big stuff.
@@LoamRoamer running an Ohlins RXF38 and for me it was noticeably better than FOX 38 or Zeb, has amazing midstroke and doesnt hit a wall of progression. Gives up the slightest slower speed small bump, but the harder its pushed it loves it. Havent tried DVO since the original diamond (blew through travel) but have been impressed with any of their rear shocks ive tried.
you can put a smashpot in a diamond though. so i feel like its not quite an apples to apples comparison
I hear you, but the fact that the DVO feels better without one than a Fox with one is the key point of my message.
Any words for the Onyx vs Diamond comparison?
Great treminder of a video I have not completed yet. I will get some of these done over the winter.
at a 60/inch lb spring rate and shooting off from an assumption that you look to be 175lbs at most, you are over sprung. Plus the trail you are running appear to be not suited for the spring rate that you are running.
How much OTT did you have on the DVO? I'm running 130psi 160mm and 8 full turns of OTT. That give me 32mm of sag.
12 full turns. I am 190lbs. I also run 112 psi.
Dude, that trail is for testing gravel bikes. you have 3 rocks in total and no roots on the trail . Is a shame to test a coil fork on that trail
Come ride it with me rock star and show me you are pro speed. Where are your videos you take time to do as clearly an expert! Same invite I make to all comments who are negative, come ride with us
@@LoamRoamerThis is a proper trail for a coil fork to test, at least in the first part of the video. ua-cam.com/video/_IjF0wd8jcQ/v-deo.html
I am not a pro rider , but I ride smashpot for the last 3 years and I am saying that your comparation test is no valid.
@@LoamRoamerdefinitely a green/blue trail no argument there.
DVO destroys every other fork in small bump
I agree, I love their suspension solution. I want to try the new EXT rear air shock also.
I have a 2021 stumpjumper. At 30 sag on rear I am using about 120mm travel. On the front at most recommended sag of 28 mm and no volume spacers I am only using 100mm of 140 at 78 psi. Would you go down in preasure and over recommended sag or would you leave it as is. Western pa slow tight trails. Rocks roots short up and down. I don't thing I am hanging of the back to much???
Thanks for the great videos
Sag is simply a starting point. You want to bracket until the bike feels best. If you watch my video on setting up for a light rider I describe bracketing there, follow that process for setup. If that means 40% sag and it rides great, all good.
How much do you weigh?
185