🌌 Embark on a Time-Travel Adventure with Trek World! 🚀
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- Опубліковано 19 сер 2024
- 🌌 Embark on a Time-Travel Adventure with Trek World! 🚀
Join Jim from Trek World as he takes us on a captivating journey back to 2005, a year of cinematic and television milestones! 📽️📺 From the popularity of "Star Wars Episode Three" at the box office to the intriguing intrigue of "24," this era was a pivotal time for entertainment. 🎬
🔦 But wait, there's more! Learn how paramount's groundbreaking decision in 2006 transformed the face of Star Trek forever. 🌠 Unveil the remastering of the entire Star Trek original series into a stunning 16 by nine format, complete with high-definition scans and cutting-edge effects.
💡 Dive deep into the technical and historical aspects of this monumental shift. Explore the journey from bootleg VHS copies to DVDs and Blu-rays, and discover the true essence of the original Star Trek episodes. 🚀
🎥 In this engaging video, Trek World reviews the meticulously remastered scenes, pointing out fascinating details like wooden cell caps, creative lighting, and more. 🌟 From slow approach to breaking orbit, witness iconic shots like never before. 🌌
👀 Discover the secrets behind the reversed letters on the iconic model, debunking urban legends and providing a fresh perspective on this beloved series. 🛰️
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Awesome! When it comes to things of an entertainment nature the Star Trek franchise will always be the great love of my life! So these vids of yours are a great treasure too for those of us in the loop of fandom!
I worked as a mechanic at the Post Group the studio where much of the A.D.R. (After Dub Recording) and final edits were done. This was located behind that Cinima Dome in Hollywood. Got to meet William Shatner, Deforest Kelly and James Doohan. Saw the actual ship model and the camera was on tracks to do the fly by. What I found the most amusing was how the shimmering effect for the transporter was done. It was a empty mayonnaise jar filled with baby shampoo and gold glitter which the was shaken and then filmed. The photon torpedo sound was the steel cable that went from the ground to a telephone pole that they tapped with a hammer. Great place to work, they even had a chef that prepared meals.
thanks for sharing thats awesome!!!
Cool beyond belief. Thanks for sharing.
It's still the BEST transporter effect ever.
Thanks for the whole comment. 🖖
true creativity is born of necessity.
Awesome story and experience for you
I always loved the zoom into the bridge in The Cage; it was a really impressive effect for that time!
Albert Whitlock, one of the pioneers in motion picture visual effects, rendered the matte painting of the Rigel fortress in "The Menagerie". In "Where No Man Has Gone Before", Mr. Whitlock painted the filming illustration of the lithium cracking plant.
Good thing that the Blu-Rays allow us fans to see both versions of these original episodes.
Except i seen people say they episodes have been edited cut etc so I'm happy i have 2004 DVDs
Wow, I like knowing that. I loved the original look of the show.
ST TOS was one of the few TV shows that my dad endorsed. I watched first run episodes as a youngster, initially on a black and white screen. To say that it had a strong influence on my childhood would be a tremendous understatement. Adulthood too, to some extent. I'm not a nerd or anything like that.
Well, it's time you acknowledged your nerd side! 🙂
Nothing wrong with being a nerd Carlos.
@@NathanTarantlawriter I know. But back in the day you could get beat up for it. Now nerddom is a cottage industry, and there's not much of a price to pay physically or socially.
No offense.....but ya you are....embrace it
@@Terminus_El_Camino So true. We have had several folks in the comments talk about how growing up in the 70s and liking Star Trek - or any other science fiction - made you a target for bullies. Both verbal and physical.
It wasn't until Star Wars came out in 77 that our peers actually began to show a respect for Sci-Fi.
It was so bad that "Trekkies" tried to change the name to "Trekkers" because they didn't want people to see them as the "Get A Life" group that Shatner mocked on SNL.
I am so happy that all three of my children didn't have to got through that. Even today, they can' fathom why in the world people would bully someone because they liked a TV show.
I miss those old effects. When I was a kid they looked like the grainy photography on National Geographic specials, like they were films actually taken in outer space. The new ones just look like CGI. Oh well. :)
The new ones aren't aging well, and I've got more realistic visuals from Kerbal Space Program, in-game, to be honest. I wish they hadn't done it and I never watch them with the new FX if I can manage. They just look too clean and sterile. And they did it too soon. They needed to wait another 10 years.
I remember the the very first "remastered" versions on VHS. Even those, just too "cleaned up". Ruined the illusion, the sets too obviously became....sets. The TOS episode "Court Martial" fight scene was really bad after remastering, it was way too obvious when the stunt doubles stepped in.
I loved the ORIGINAL effects. These redone effects shots are nicely done in many cases, but seem unnatural inserted into the show. I very much like the stereo remixes done on the TOS episodes, though, those are generally very nice.
I was also 8 years old in 1972 and ran home as fast as I could after school to be in place to watch Star Trek. It was all new to us, being too young to remember when it originally aired. We were lucky enough to have a brand new color tv and I remember it looking great even on those old tvs.
Love the changes. They did them respectfully and didn't ruin the originals.
except the nacelle effects. 100% botched. They picked up on a flaw in the original process and magnified it, to widespread ridicule.
I disagree. New Enterprise looks so cheap and plasticy and flat. I say improve but do not alter the angle, keep original colors and audio.
This stuff is a blast! I am recommending this channel to my buddy Chris Hunter son of Jeffery Captain Pike Hunter. He'd love this!
By all means! I would love him to check it out. There's going to be a video package that will cover the various film versions of The Cage. It's a small world, isn't it? 😀
@@TREK-WORLD very much so! Lol
I loved the original series. I remember being about 4 or 5 when I first saw Star Trek on TV in 1975. It was my favorite show.
Always used to wake up to the original series in the 90s being blasted by my late father and how the bridge pings would emanate ..good memories! :)
your dad is spot on... the bridge sound fx are so soothing and you instantly get these strong childhood memories... and the feelng of family and god times are deeply associated with the bridge sound fx... i will never understand the producers of star trek the motion picture - they actually did not integrate the bridge sounds when it aired in the cinemas... thank god they made an updatet version of that movie many years later with the old bridge sound fx!!
Remember the Bridge sounds just running on 'auto' when it was deserted or the crew dissolved as in Omega Glory? LOVED THAT. I could imitate a lot of the computer controls and transporter sound effects pretty well by mouth kinda like the guy from "Police Academy" movies who did effects and believe it or not it made me popular with some girls who also liked ST. They often asked me to do it and then show their friends.
@@ntvypr4820 Love it!!!
If I had to describe this in one word, it would be: crafty
The special effects in the original series as they were originally presented certainly didn't age very well by most modern standards, however, even when I was a kid in the 80s watching this on VHS they still worked for me. For what they did with the limited budget and time they had for a TV series, they still took my kid self to space and made it a place of wonder. It's interesting to see how they did it and made a show about future science and computers...without computers. lol
Remember the chronometer/timer that moved by one number on a roll on the nav stand next to Sulu and how absolutely dated it looked for a 'futuristic' starship? I got a clock radio for Christmas in '75 that had numbers that flipped down on individual printed thin metal sheets. That thing was cooler to watch than those blocky black numbers rolling on a wheel. But for 1966 I guess that was whiz-bang!
primitive as they are, the original effects hold up better than the obnoxious remasters.
In many, even most episodes, I find myself missing the original effects. There are things I think are better... but there's just something about the original effects that FITS the show better.
i agree. the cgi looks fake.
Yes. The original effects made the charm because its how they really did it to tell the story. Similar to old Godzilla movies. The effects made the charm of the spectacle.
Absolutely yes😎👌. Original stays charming original. ✨For me just simply the best.
They were made FOR the show and are inextricably part of it. The original effects are beautiful and organic. And there is something about the integrity of the original work. Trying to improve on something that was good to begin with introduces a feeling of doubt, as though they’re apologizing for show that was done well enough that there is a whole ST empire now. It was a budget show and they spent the money very well.
It is like "improving" the Mona Lisa...
Wistful sighs of fond remembrance from a faithful Star Trek (TOS) viewer.
For me, it's the original effects hands down. I'm 57 (same age as TOS) so I grew up along with my generation with Star Trek. Sure, some special effects looked kind of corny, but it was 1960's science fiction. It was pretty cool back then. Great video and channel.
Thanks for sharing!
Great point about the early remastering! I've also seen various discussions online where people bemoan the loss of the original audio mix.
Good point! I think I'm going to try to dig up some stuff on that Japanese LaserDisc set. I'll use GoogleTranslate and see what I can find in Japanese. I'm sure there has to a detailed discussion somewhere about the set and what it was touting as being a first time exclusive.
This reminds me of the original Star Wars trilogy. I had the original cuts on VHS, but decided to upgrade to DVD and found they were the remastered films! I was gutted. Still am 🫤
I have the original offering of VHS tapes from 1979 or '80. All 79.
I too started watching Trek in 1972. I had some of the VHS releases but quickly switched to the LaserDiscs (U.S.), which used the same masters. I have almost the entire set. In the early 80s I worked as an engineer at a TV station that ran the series every day. For years we ran the episodes on 16mm, but at some point switched to remastered versions on 1" video tape. I hated the remasters because City on the Edge of Forever didn't have the original music, while the 16mm prints did. Plus, the remastered versions were missing 5 minutes of footage from each episode. Needless to say I've seen the originals more times than I can count.
thx for sharing, i hate the remasters too, only watch TOS with the original fx
I like the enhancements. They did a great job on the effects and the picture quality. It’s not like you can’t watch it with the old effects, at least on the Blueray edition which I have.
All new effects aside. No Sam? No Heart or Pathos in the new series.
I cant stand the new fx looses all the athospere and charm in space... I rewatch it only with original effects... the newer ones feel so steril! But you have to have seen the original as a child to apprecitate them. So its good to have both options on those sets...
Thank you. These shots give me an almost indescribable feeling of awe and inspiration.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I love the remastered episodes. They made Star Trek look great. I've still got most of season one on VHS that I recorded from TV, but I don't own a VCR.
One can find a process to convert VCR content to DVD. I do not know the details, so consult someone more technically sophisticated than I am.
@@DavidRLentz why would I dig out old VCR tapes to convert to digital when I can just stream the remastered versions? Makes no sense. I really don't care about my old VCR tapes. Your comment has helped me to realize that I need to throw all that old stuff away.
Thanks 🙏
@@jaydav6521 some like it! Please donate it to fans who would derive enjoyment from them. All right?
I had suggested this anticipating that you are a collector of Star Trek TOS memorabilia.
@@DavidRLentz I don't collect. Love all the shows though. I got my first VCR for Christmas in 85. Immediately started taping Star Trek. I think I taped season one of TNG as well.
What is a VCR, please?
Sometimes, "enhancements" can be a crime. I consider this on a par with colorizing a classic film-noir like Maltese Falcon or Casablanca. It just ruins a classic pieceof art.
Great video! I gotta say, part of me has always kinda preferred the more retro-scifi look of that 2nd pilot model with its huge dish and spikes on the nacelles. Plus the fact it's the model we see in all of the opening credits.
The guy standing at the mic going, “puuueew…..puuueew…..”
only reason I watched the pirated version on the star trek series was that I knew that the DVD release had been ruined.
I was so happy they did this.
I love the original version of the barrier effect much more than the remastered!
Young Eugene allayed most of the fears "First Fandom" felt about the remaster when he assured a panel (San Diego ComiCon?) "We're not *changing* it ... we're *fixing* it! We're doing it the way Dad would have done it if he'd had the budget and technology." Good job, too, imho.
Cool that the bridge originally had a real window for the viewscreen, per the 2009+ Trek films. I have no issue with this unlike many Trek fans. When all systems are knocked out, gotta see where you are and whats around you the old fashioned way.
I like the new effects. I do find it curious that they didn’t fix obvious mistakes like occasionally mixing up phasers with photon torpedoes.
For balance it was important that they used the later called photon torpedo effect, as they were laying a string of depth charges in the plot. However that episode filmed in July 1966 and was about the 6th filmed so the ship only had "phasers" in the technical lingo. Since the climax occurred in "phaser control" those remastering it were stuck. They had to stick with the original VFX direction.
At least in Tomorrow is Yesterday they fixed the 1966 VFX team's misunderstanding of NASAs "slingshot effect" by using ST IV's stock footage.
What a tease!!! I can’t wait to see the rest!!
All I need to know is if Nichelle is digitally enhanced.
You think that’s her voice vocalizing during the opening theme? It’s not. It was originally done by Loulie Jean Norman, with Alexander Courage conducting it. The re-recording had a soprano named Elin Carlson vocalizing.
@@darthkurland I don't think that's "enhancement" he's talking about! 😉
I never ever watch the CGI enhanced episodes, not because of some sense of nostalga but because of the blatent disrespect for the efforts of the original models makers and special effects crew. I appreciate their work, amazing for the time, dated now yes but It is what it is and these individuals efforts should be lauded, not cast aside.
Like the Enterprise drifting in orbit for the title sequence
The most important thing in this video is the zoom in shot of the Enterprise in 'The Cage'. We clearly see the crew facing forward and the turbo-lift in the back NOT lined up with that external nodule behind the bridge dome. This dispels the common myth that the bridge sits 30° off center facing port-bow. If it appears on screen it's Canon.
ooooohhhhhhh! You have hit on something that had been bugging me. I've also seen the off center theory. But it never "felt" true to me. It may have been this very scene in the back of my mind that was trying to be remembered.
No matter how badly you want to document something, you absolutely must yield to anything shown on screen. Now, you cant extrapolate from something on the screen as a basis of making a case for it. The case has to be 100% supported visually in order to be validated.
For example; your comment about the turbolift is undeniable.
But assuming that the entire Tech Manual from the 70s is canon because two images from it appeared on background monitors in the movies, is not a conclusion you can jump to.
All of these "discoveries, research, and ideas" are wonderful - they keep Trek alive for us. But you cannot jump to conclusions.
We all do it. Heck, even I've done it. But that doesn't mean it is a fact.
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In the outdoor photo of the model with the build team, Mel and Vernon's names are switched. Melvin, the one in the yellow striped shirt, is my cousin. The Smithsonian exhibit had it wrong too last time I was up there. He said he tried to get it corrected, but long ago gave up. I have always wondered if they corrected it when they refurbished the model, but I haven't been back.
Thanks for the update. 😀
I'm pretty sure that's how their names got reversed. I've pulled a bunch of things from the Smithsonian site and must have used them as my identity source in this case.
1999 DVDS here; once thing I noticed was that I really could zoom in - it was great for catching Easter Eggs.
I own the First Paramount (1999) release of the Series on DVD.. 2 episodes per disk. It was remastered and the audio was in THX!
You could really see Shatners Rug on the disks! But the new CGI enhanced remasters take the show to a new level.. WOW!!
I will soon get the Blu-ray CGI enhanced version soon!
Shatner didn't wear rug in original series still.had his hair then obviously films is different story can't say for certain one way or another although hair line appears the same.
Actually, he did. There's a memo in the Making of Star Trek that the producers wrote because he was taking his hair pieces home with him, and they said they cost about $300 each.
The upgrades are interesting, but the originals are the true TREK.
Yeah, I loved Star Trek when I watched the reruns during the 70’s. My mom never got it. She never got anything that was futuristic, time travel, rubber suit aliens. Even when I explained that I watched it because it demonstrates how people get along and work together, despite their differences or how they look. It was all about the journey…
My folks are the same way: complete inability to suspend disbelief. All they wanted to watch was Doctor-Lawyer-Cop shows. *shrug*
I miss my old ST:TOS VHS tapes......
Am I imagining things, or at 14:31, if you look carefully at the secondary hull for the model, you can see what looks like wires or something hanging off the side by the row of shuttlecraft hanger observation deck windows?
There is something hanging there. There's also it looks like a bit of crud on the model, which is probably why it never got reused.
Guys, check on TREK WORLD's old vid called "50 year old Star Trek secret!", which actually goes into detail about that.😅
(Is "Jim" and "Wierd Nashville" old names of TREK WORLD, or an associate?)
@@PeteOhki Been there, done that, and commented on the controversy over how finished or not the 11 foot model's port side was, and how far back it was known in the fandom.
Sorry I missed this question Pete! But better late than never, right?
Yes, I started Weird Nashville as a channel back in 2020 I think.
That channel covered several different subjects while I tried to find out what my "niche" was going to be. Then, at the tail end of 2021, my Star Trek videos began to get traction. It wasn't long afterward that I changed the name of the channel here on UA-cam.
Personally, I'd like to see the show remastered again.
The 2005 remastering looked good for about a week.
Today, most fans have more computing power than they did back then.
They need to upscale the original effects instead of replacing them. Like they did with the TNG remaster
@@admiralpercy No amount of 'upscaling' would make the images look better. There are rips and tears in those images that would still be there if you tried to upscale them.
The only way to even get close, would be to go back to the original uncomposited negatives and start from scratch. And even then, the different versions of the Enterprise (Pilot, second pilot, production version, 3 footer) would still make for horrendous continuity errors.
As long as the original effects are offered as an option for those who would like to see them, then there is no good reason to not update them again.
they need to just leave it alone.
quit painting mustaches on the Mona Lisa. its an old painting. we all know that.
I do think the Remastered versions are superior, BUT, I still think these original versions are important and valuable and should be preserved! P+ should give the option to view the episodes in their original versions! I believe in preserving all media, especially something as culturally important as Star Trek TOS, people should be allowed to watch it if it is the version they prefer, and also we should still be able to celebrate and admire what the effects team was able to pull off given the limited budget and time period it was made in!
The bluray dvd's allow you to do that.
Love the remastered episodes. I recently watched the original version of _The Doomsday Machine_ and I was astonished at how primitive it looked.
Here in Canada, MeTV would always air the original VFX runs of TOS whist Space would air the remastered TOS.
(It was quite advantageous actually as neither channel would air the same episodes, so you literally got double the TOS per day to binge with no need for streaming.)
Maybe this is why I remember both red and blue phasers and both white and red photons.
I watched Season 3 on Friday night with my dad. All this high res/high definition is lost on me-since I have low def eyes and ears.
Grew up on it, first run 🖖
What's funny is the pic reprsenting the updated effects in the thumbnail is the same pic from the cover of the book "The Making of Star Trek" from 1968.
@@TREK-WORLDthe one on the book cover has blue phasers. I own the book. Same copy I bought over 50 years ago. While the one on the right might be an update, it has the same bluish coloring as the book cover pic. The one on the left definitely isn't the book cover.
Back in the (original) day, RODDENBERRY changed phaser colors a few times, and even called the photon torpedoes phaser fire. It took the re-do's to get them on the same wave length and correct the mistakes. Thanx for doing these videos...it gives some nice history and lost images!
@@scotpens Correctamundo! There was a documentary or book or something created by one of the producers, & while Roddenberry originated the idea, it was actually one of the other producers that came up with a LOT of the "mythology"/terminology that fans identify closely with Trek. That producer's contributions were massive!
The Phasers and photon torpedoes initially interchangeable, e.g., in "Balance of Terror".
@@shaggy72 , you likely refer to Gene L. Coon.
As a kid I watched Star Trek on a small Black and White TV.
What's black and white TV, Grampa?
And what were the dinosaurs 🦖🦕 really like then?
4:43 zooming on the paused image, it looks like the logo at the bottom left of those Japanese box sets is a laserdisc and not a dvd one. It figures since around the same period, I was buying my TOS and TNG episodes on PAL or NTSC laserdiscs (never owned any VHS or Bêta. Only tapes I used were Sony Hi-8 to record TNG on satellite channels like Sky One or SAT-1 (in German, once Sky One stopped being free-to-air)
Correct! The Japanese release was on laserdisc and not DVD. Which is why they did the very first "remaster/enhance" on the episodes that they released in the set.
They also expanded the 4:3 to fit into 16:9 via cropping. This was something that was not done anywhere else. These Japanese laserdiscs were also used for a syndicated release in the UK and Canada. They were easy to spot because of the Kanji subtitles on TV.
I would love to be able to revisit this again in the future as most people have no idea that there were 16:9/cropped episodes shown.
Nice analysis, just shows how you forget what the ship looked like to begin with and what some of us missed at the time.
Our local station in Los Angeles (channel 13) was airing ALL episodes (in sequence) in the late 70's, so I used my Beta machie and taped most of them. They were prestine and were so much better than a friend who taped them on his new VHS. You can guess where this is going. VHS won the format war, my beta finally gave out and I had these beautiful tapes but no machine to play them on........I was devastated!, to say the least!
I also had beta back then. I still have a box around here somewhere with some old beta tapes in it. Of course, that's about as useful as my old HDDVD disks. 😀
@TREK-WORLD >>> 👍👍
A friend and I recorded the series off TV when they were shown in Australia in 1986 some of them still have the adverts of the time in them. Before that the series had not been shown since the 70's at least in Perth anyway. I still have some of these I should go back and have a look at them sometime to see the difference cause they would have been the ones they showed in the 70's. There were about 15 episodes they did not show. Wolf in the fold and Amok time being a couple of them we worked out they didn't air. I do have a Blu-ray sets and have a player that allows the switching of angles which changes the view to the original effects on the fly. This is good cause sometimes when I watch the new effects i like to do a switch back to the old for a quick comparison. I'm not a big fan of the new effects i think it could have been done better it definitely looks like dated CGI. I wish they would re do it to fit in more with the original. Love what your doing by the way.
Thanks! I am so glad you like what you see so far! We are literally on the ground floor of where this channel will go. So hang on!😀
Best thing ever did plus gave you the choice of keep the old classic look without getting rid of it like starwars did.
I was 11 when TOS first came on the air.
I like the original and remastered shows.
The original effects are so much better than the remastered! The original Enterprise had a "glow" to it, to me it alive, the remastered cgi Enterprise looks dull and, well, cgi, kinda lifeless...
But my biggest beef is the scene editing (for the television viewing) cutting out portions in order to elbow in more commercials 🤬
Looking forward to seasons 1,2 and 3 comparisons!
I actually like the Remastered Trek! Of course, back in 1965, the technology just wasn't there.
All things considered, the SFX for Trek were ahead of their time! I had heard that when informed of the new CGI SFX for Trek Remastered, he was not at all pleased. But when he saw it he was amazed!
This is the best thing that Paramount did for the Fans.
Bought my first Trek episode on Vhs in 1985, The Naked Time. Special order at a mom and pop video store, common at the time before large chains. $40 USD at the time, for One episode!?
Nice bit of trivia....thanks for video upload
Glad you enjoyed it!
The I think you got the description of shot of the 11 foot model's zoom in backward. It's not meant to show the ship moving toward the camera, but the camera moving toward the ship. It's an awkward camera move because of the technical limitations at the time, but I think the intent was to have the "viewer" move toward the ship, and then the bridge. The final result being an internal shot of the bridge, ending the intended immersion.
this is excactly what I was waiting for. Thank you so much. Wonderfull Video.
You're very welcome!
I don't miss the original optical effects. We had a 25" color TV and I remember as I got older I could plainly see the matte lines in all the shuttle craft shots. The effects really don't hold up in HD.
I'd be interested to know why they chose to use the reverse shot of the ship in orbit in only one episode, _"Shore Leave"._
Sort of two, if you also count _"Mirror Mirror"._
05:40 This is soooo bad of me, but I was more interested in all the cars parked on the sides behind the 11 ft Starship shot!!! I was born in 1963, and I lived all of Star Treks first shows!!! I was only 4 yrs old, but I was right there in front of the TV each weak for my new ep of Star Trek!!! So Soo Sooo Cool!!!!!! I remember when my Dad told my brother and I to wash the dishes, and I cried "But Dad StarTrek is coming on in an hour!!! We can't miss it!!!" And of course, my Dad calmly said, "Well you guys do the dishes right away then you can watch Star Force!" Ooooooo!!! I was so upset he did not even know the name of the show correctly!!! But we did the dishes, and he was right we got to watch Mr. Spock & Dr Mackoy and Uh-hoor!!! Oh yeah and that capt guy!!!!! 😋
Black on Red 1957 Plymouth Belvedere 6:18
Great idea for a multi video series! 👍
More to come!
Thank you!
Remember? That’s the only way I’ve seen them, so yes. 😆
So cool! Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for watching!
I first saw the original startrek in 1967 and now I have the compleat set of the original startrek series
I have a rental/buy VHS version of the pilot. Really old VHS saying "COPYRIGHT: I.E. INTERNATIONAL CINEHOLLYWOOD 1980". It doesn't even have any episode title, it only says "Star Trek". The background on the cover i silver with black text. There is a close-up picture of Spock infront of his station on the bridge. One of the smaller monitors can be seen behind him. The cover is probably designed for my country since the rest of the text is in our language. Subtitles are as well. Still it's a very early rental copy of the pilot, which I bought from a rental video-store just before it was shutting down in the late 80's.
I also have similarly old rental VHS copy of "Beneath The Planet Of The Apes" which I bought from the same store as they were clearing out their shelves before shutting down. I did not copy them myself, but they are the original rental copies that were sent out to VHS rental shops, so no degrading "copy" quality in that sense. Although I remember watching them back on opld school thick TV's and the quality was bad. Well "bad" in the way the quality was back then, but "good" in the sense that it is the way it was back then.
I also have Star Wars Episode IV-VI VHS from back then too. Before all the re-mastering and making Greedo shoot and the whole "who shot first" debacle. Episode IV has "copyright 1983" on it. I have a bunch of old Sci-Fi movies on VHS from back in the days. I'm happy I never threw them out when I was getting some of them on DVD and some on blu-ray.
I do still have both my Hitachi F780 Digital Stereo Hi-Fi VHS player, as well as my Panasonic Super VHS NV-HS900 Stereo Hi-Fi player. I haven't run any of them since the early 2000's though. I'm afraid to just put any VHS movie in them, since I remember that the rubber coils used to dry up and could chew the tapes. They needed to be replaced with a few years inbetween. No idea where to get them replaced these days? I do have an old thick TV as well in the basement in case I ever want to go really old school. lol Still I really liked the response time when playing console games on those old TV's compared to mother flat screens. There was less input lag. I still have our old Philip VideoPack G7000 console from the 70's and it still works, even on the more modern flat screen TV's. Same with my old Amiga Commodore 600 from the late 80's/early 90's.
I do have some of my old thick VCR tapes (where the video tape coils are not side by side but on top of each other in the tapes, not the vhs tape design) that could be used in the old Philips VCR players, but I have no such player left in my pocession. Since I was a kid back then it was my parents players and they of course sold them when "upgrading" to VHS Player. I remember that we first had the faster but higher quality VCR player which made the tapes only be 1 hour long, but later got the slower VCR player which recorded and ran slower, but made the tapes last 2 1/2 hours. The 1 hour machine could pause and freeze the images to still pictures. The 2 1/2 hours version could not. If only I still had those players to watch my old tapes and stuff i recorded from TV back then. I do have recording of Space: 1999 epåisodes on some of those tapes. Sure these days I have both seasons/series of Space: 1999 on DVD as well as blu-ray, but it would be fun to watch them on the old VCR recorded from TV back in the 70's.
Oh and btw Trek World, my phone started overheating and shuts down. I usually watched UA-cam and cast it to TV via chromecast from my phone. I finally managed to find my UA-cam password, so now I can log in on one of my PC's, but I haven't been able to keep up. It was nice getting back on and seeing alreday 2 new videos having been uploaded by you. Onwards to the next episode now. 😎
Glad you're back with us. When I moved to Tennessee back in 2000, I had two boxes filled with VHS and Beta tapes (yeah - I was one of "those" beta format people.)
Over the years, they simply disappeared. But I always like going back to watch them - so I end up buying them on DVD via eBay. There's quite a market for VHS video shoved onto DVD by little shops. In about half the cases, I even get the old commercials as well!
I still watch the "newer, better" videos most of the time. But I did watch the ABC Movie version of the original Battlestar Galactica a couple months back. A lot of folks in the US don't realize that a great many of our "made for tv" movies back in the 70s were usually shown overseas with additional footage to make them closer to the full 90 minutes. In some extreme cases; the overseas version contained language and scenes that never would have been approved for TV broadcast in the US. But that was not the case for traditional theater.
@@TREK-WORLD Glad to be back. Yeah, I have that VHS movie version of Battlestar Galactica on VHS too (I even watched it in the cinemas back in the days). As well as "Mission Galactica: The Cylon Attack" 1hr 45min, which is the parts where they meat Cain and Battlestar Pegasus and "Conquest Of The Earth" 1hr 25m, where they finally reach Earth (so corny with the flying motorcycles, but still). All of them episodes of Galactica turned into movie lengths. Those are not first hand copies, but versions I copied from rental videos back in the days. Still good copies from a bit better VHS players with stereo sound. I even copied the covers on colour copy machine, so that they would look nice in my bookshelf.
A bunch of other sci-fi movies too, like "Predator" (both a censored and an uncensored version), "Enemy Mine", "Virus", "Wing Commander", "Alien", "Aliens", "Alien: Resurrection", "Lifeforce", "Dune" (the one from 1984) etc. Also all the old Star Trek movies. Even "Nemesis" on VHS. Also some TNG episodes. The entire first season of "Enterprise" and also the pilot of "Voyager". Some Babylon 5. Plus a lot of other stuff. Not going to list them all, as You'd fall asleep.
"Buck Rogers in the 25th Century" as well. In the movie version one of the antagonist dies, but in the pilot of the TV-Series he does not. So yes, as you say, sometimes they are indeed different. 😎
Nice job. There is an additional shot in Where No Man Has Gone Before, but it's of the three foot model and you're only doing the eleven.
The season 2 and 3 opening credits are exclusively from The Cage and Where No Man Has Gone Before.
Where are you getting the idea that the remasters are 16:9? I had the 1999 DVDs as well as the 2004 season sets and they were all 4:3 as are the Blu-rays. Even the 2006 Remastered are 4:3. I have many (many) complaints about TOS-R but the aspect ratio isn't one of them.
Hi Bill!
There are a few places out that that documented the 16:9 remasters. Here's a link from 2006 : trekmovie.com/2006/12/18/video-of-trek-remastered-in-widescreen/.
They remastered in 16:9; but they they cropped the image so that it fit 4:3 on normal TVs. Even when they originally "released" the new remasters into syndication on TV in the early 00's - it was cropped to 4:3. People had no chance of seeing the uncropped version for quite a while.
With the clip I showed form the "original" DVD of the Cage, you can clearly see they cropped the top and bottom out as compared to the original 4:3 masters for VHS.
I also ran across this 6 month old post on Reddit during my research as it related to someone wanting to know how they could see the 16:9 version as Paramount only streams the cropped version : "If you’re in Canada, Cravetv streams the original series in 16:9. The original footage is cropped but most of the effect shots are larger in 16:9 The effects shots are actually cropped on the sides for the 4:3 version if you compare them. The 16:9 version also airs on the sci fi channel in Canada and maybe on BBC and also in Japan I believe."
However, there is always a chance that there is more to discover here. I'll see if I can actually rip a scene or two from my blu rays and compare the exact same scene with the original DVDs (and what is currently streaming) and see what we get.
One of the reason I broke this into serval parts was to allow us to update upcoming videos to reflect something we may have found after the first one.
And that includes "eating crow" if I double check and find out I was wrong! 😀😀😀😀
Yeah... I think I'm going to head down that rabbithole again before the next video. I want to find other clips to look at so that I can compare the cropping. I'm also going to take a more in depth look at that Japanese LaserDisc set that the digital enhancement was done for. I think it may give me a bona fide "source of truth".
Time to clean off the old bifocals. 😀
Detail wow.
What a great video. It's like modern pop culture archaeology, in a funny way.
After years of holding on to my individual season TOS dvd's, I finally decided to save some shelf space and upgrade to the all in one blu-ray repackaging. I've gotta say I'm impressed. Although there is some small amount of grain, the blurays are noticeably clearer than the dvd's and are, of course, in higher resolution. Not only that, but the colors are no longer faded out and the cgi effects, in my opinion, are excellent. The new effects upgrade the series and modernize the look but not in a vulgar "look at me" way, instead they fit in quite nicely with the rest of the footage. The cgi effects on the blurays can be turned on or off for those that prefer the original effects. In general I'm quite pleased with the effort put into the blurays. Also one of the things that annoyed me as a kid has finally been fixed in the blurays---the consistency of the Enterprise model! In the eps I grew up with on tv, in some eps the end of the Enterprise nacelles sometimes ended in grilles and in other eps the end of the nacelles had orbs! Sometimes both shots in one ep!! The new effects fix that and have a consistent Enterprise model used in the eps. They prefer the orb ending for the nacelles.
I think I will have an additional video after this series that will look at the whole Remaster project and what the reception has been amongst the fans over the past 15 years or so.
@@TREK-WORLD it's so subjective. A friend and I are same age and we both grew up loving ST and watching it in first re-runs after school in the very early 70's. Now we both have watched the updated new CG effects version of TOS and we came out totally different on it. I really don't like them and find them off-putting. I prefer the show even with it's restricted special effects of the 60's, I just wanted them cleaned up and made sharp as if I was watching a brand new first reel of the shows that they would have used for NBC first-run broadcast back in the day. He prefers all the new CGI and anything they do like that. The CG Enterprise just looks like a overly digitized cartoon animation of some sort to me.
Grain is good. It means you getting so much data you are seeing the actual components of the film image. It's like complaining about seeing the dots in a newspaper image.
The opening was the best in the original as the ENTERPRISE looked fast. Plus it was white and you could actually see it.
I like the newer FX, but I do feel as if they could have been done better (sometimes subtler). Look at 0:36. You would have thought that the phasers in the new FX shot would have been properly placed (same thing when the photon torpedoes were launched).
I'm interested in learning about the change in the back of the nacelles; they turn into globes somewhere along the way.
I have a video up next that will cover the entire life of the 11ft model. Beginning with them actually building the saucer and taking you through all the modifications made over years as well as all of the Smithsonian updates.
The balls were added when they added the nacelle lights.
One fx in the original that was better than the remastered version was the energy barrier effect!
Ironically.... I've had that exact same thought myself while preparing these videos. There is such a disconnect between the originl barrier sequence and simply using the pink/reddish background. But I had written off my impressions as the rantings of an old men. 😀
It's hard for me to take a strong stance on the old vs. new effects. Most of the time, I'm fine with the original version of the episodes. But there are a few exceptions. For instance, "Tomorrow Is Yesterday" benefits greatly from the modern effects, since the original effects didn't do the greatest job of visually conveying their method of time travel--in fact, the shots don't even show the sun!
I got to see the 11 foot model at the Smithsonian
me too. pretty cool ..
THE ORIGINAL SERIES LOOKED JUST FINE ON A 25" COLOR TELEVISION. WHEN TVS PAST 48" THE OPTICAL FLAWS BECAME VERY NOTICABLE.
I'm really surprised that you didn't mention the shot of the 2nd Pilot Enterprise that was filmed, but like the "Dagger of the Mind" port side shot, wasn't used until "Mirror, Mirror". That would make at least 8 effects shots, not 7.
I'm 46 and I grew up with the syndicated reruns on WZTV-Fox 17 out of Nashville. We recorded our own bootleg VHS copies, of course, but I would imagine that the episodes were cut/edited for commercial time. I missed the first round of complete season DVD releases, which were (according to Bill Hunt at The Digital Bits) sourced from the interpositives and not the OCN (original camera negatives). But once the Blu-ray sets were out, I leaped at the chance of seeing my favorite OG series in both high definition and with the original and newly enhanced VFX, via seamless branching. Dear George Lucas, please take note: the technology exists to give fans both cuts, LOL. Porque no los dos? I'll say that for me, personally, the new VFX work really well in about 90% of the cases. In about 5% they're just okay, and the remaining 5% are cringe worthy. Still, given the time constraints, CBS Digital did great work. I'm hoping these get an HDR remaster at some point. These would really pop in Dolby Vision HDR!
Thank you.
You're welcome!
So I have to point out why they reused shot TC1 in is there in truth no beauty. Idk if anyone has said this yet, but basically that episode is one of three of the original series where they visit the galactic barrier. The shot was used in where no man has gone before right after their encounter with the barrier, when they're limping home and the warp engines are out. Assuming that connection, perhaps they used the same effect to recreate that same sort of feeling, because the ship truly does seem crippled and sluggish from that angle with no lights on the nacelles, the windows dark, the ship slowly moving. That's my guess as to why they used the same shot
You're probably right. I hadn't actually considered the various reasons why they repeatedly reused some shots and not others.
I hoped they were at least scanned in 2K so maybe we can get a 4K upscale someday.
I like the remastered episodes.
I would love to see a VHS copy of The Tholian Web as I believe that they never showed or mentioned the hull registry numbers of USS Defiant in that episode, and only later Digitally added them.
I have copies of each of the original episodes when they were released on the Columbia House VHS issues. I'll try to remember to check it out and post a screen clip in the community for you.
@@TREK-WORLD I would appreciate that. I have wrote a mini thesis on the issues with the hull registry numbers, and I honestly think that Defiant wasn't shown that well in the first release, because it was the 11 foot Enterprise at a distance to fill in for her.
I am planning to make a video in the next few days where I will talk about my thoughts on this.
I have seen very little 16x9 footage anywhere. Everything up to Enterprise has been released 4x3 1080i
I remember the blowback from some of the fans when the CGI effects came into play, a lot of " HARMPH HARMPH HARMPH HARMPH !"
That's because the cgi is terrible and even more dated now!
Huzzah! I was one of those HARUMPING! 😆
05:41
look in the top corner
behind the bald guy
CHRISTINE
is sitting there
I remember in the Tholian Web the ship was Defiance and not Defiant. And in the remastered version you can hear a hard “T” has been added to match DS9.
You are mistaken.
Even the old Franz Joseph Tech Manual list the ship’s name as Defiance
@@SpaceNazi62 you are probably remembering some Expanded list of Constitution class ships in FASA Federation Ship Recognition Manual. Do a search for ncc-1717 vs 1764. Don't you think everyone on the planet would have noticed if the audio to the Tholian Web had been altered? Audio of multiple characters all saying Defiant. The reason DS9 used the name in the first place?
Defiant. I found a screen capture from "The Tholian Web" with a closeup of the command section showing the name of the ship:
ua-cam.com/video/x1OHv7ABXDs/v-deo.html