Your approach and attitude are really laudable. What is described by Bhagwan as "achintya" and " avyakta" can never be proved by debates ( which operate at the level of manas, buddhi and indriyas and Brahma is beyond these ). Hence let us unite and focus on the challenge posed by the other religions.
These people s are telling lies Vidhyaranya a great sage because of him Vijaya Nagar kingdom born Vidhyaranya pontiff of Sringeri mutt a great Challenger
Yes bro I was also shocked that just because they want to over glorify their Aacharya ,they are defaming the acharyas of Shankar Sampada how . A great aacharya like Vidya Rana because of his contribution towards Hinduism can never be forgotten and especially because of his contribution to the Vijayanagara Samrajya these people are forgetting that during the era of sripad vidyaranya India was attacked by the muslim emperor do you think that when Hinduism is being attacked by Muslims one Hindu philosopher will debate with another Hindu philosopher
That's what the argument is about , that's why the debate is happening , they are not defaming or belittling vidyaranyaru , they are just debating something that needs more debate because is not clear.
hey fool, hear what he says and then puke. Not a single sanyasi from Advaita is as famous and meritorious as some of Dvaita sanits. Dont lament here. Get lost.
Namaskara, The depth of research is great. There is one question. Vaishnavites say that Vedanta Desikar was the judge and he declared Akshobya theertharu as winner ( Ref: “Vedanta Deshika Vaibhava Prakashika”). whether this also a false one?
One of the main character's in the picture Sri Vedanta dashika swami and his side of proofs are missing in the picture . we can t arrive at any conclusion until this side of story is seen . Also my main doubt is , it is clear that the Vada was on "Tatvamasi", which is very particular to Vedantees only . On debating with non vedanti , the topic would be on the praminikatha on veda etc,.. but not something so specific such as "Tatvamasi" and that too this word is the main source of debate with Advaithees and dwaithees .
That “avaidika” is an indirect retort to Sringeri Vidyaranya only I guess! Because in “Sarvadrshana samgraha” , Vidyaranya says Poorna prajna darshana is a pseudo Vedic school or an avaidic school under the cloth of a Vedic school ! Let me talk about the triggering point: The triggering point would’ve been about which school falls close to the term avaidika. Whether Dvaita is avaidika or Advaita is avaidika. The whole premise of the debate would’ve stood on the term avaidika! Hence a Veda vakhya was only taken as the main subject of the debate. Why would a Veda vakhya be taken as the subject for vakyartha if the debate was against some other non Vedic school? Therefore intentionally the jaya shloka contains the prefix “avaidika”.
Till date I m upset that..why Madhawas hate Other sampradaya that much...infact Sumadhva Vijay starts from abusing Shankara...so much hatred...they first start teaching hate again smartha and then they teach madva shastra (so called).
These people teaching other things in name of Madvacharya....not sure if Madvacharya written those things ... people are so dumb that they don't even question them. Like Muslims.
Please give subtitles in english so that it can reach more people. I wanted to know about this historical incident but can't understand a single thing.
Praiseworthy work. It has proved beyond doubt that there was no such vedic argument between Vidyaranya and Akshobha tirtha. It was a manipulated story to establish superiority. Baseless. Why Madhvas become so cheap.?
@@haresrinivasa5226 whole of mathematics will fail. Aryabhatta gave clarification to the idea of Brahma in one verse in his book *Aryabhatiya* in 476 AD, even earlier. Ramanujan,great mathematician did mention before his death. If mathematics fails, whole science fails. It is not cheap clime. Truth.
Excellent debate.At present all Hindus should unite and safeguard our culture.Why unnecessarily drag 14th century incident and prove what. All acharyas from various groups preached love peace etc.So Please stop this type of argument Madwas party pranadeva.Pranadeva is also from rudra.So for gods sake stop this self praising
I think debates are good, paksha and poorva paksha had always been the beauty of our Vedantas. We need to test what is true and follow and therefore this debate is very brave attempt to establish the same. For example, a medicine, before coming to the market, has to go several rounds of testing.In a similar way fair debates bring out the satya, otherwise the system will become monopolised and corrupt.
Vidyaranya is too stall man.. Akshobhya Tirtha is nothing infront of him this must some Vidyaranya name person.. No way Vidyaranya would have discussion with this person called Akshobhya Tirtha
@@phanikashyap8096 Oh you must be 600 to 700 yrs old to claim it. Claims of Patil book will not stand too long. Hypothetical cases won't stand .You are no one to claim that it must be some other person,it is just a hypothetical situation and not the final verdict. LET RESEARCH CONTINUE. Even we can say akshobhya tirtha was greater than vidyaranya just like that. Vidyaranya is great for you and akshobhya tirtha is same for us. It is just foolish to claim debate didn't happe on the basis of greatness. No way vidyaranya could have debated with akshobhya tirtha...😂😂, It is not you who decide. Vedanta deshikar proofs are much more valid ,that's why your side is trying to object by saying they both belong to same period,but research shows it further.
@@Sookshmagnya Your comparison is totally baseless that way to claim any thing people should have lived minimum 10000 are more years... Yes Hypothetical wont stand..the whole story that you are doing here baseless...people like vidyaranya would have got into this debate and felt otherwise... he would have accepted the truth..and moved with you.. Vidayranya was Greatest of seers all time...definitely incomparable with any seers including your madhwacharya.. About debate you also cant decide ..problem with Dvatians even small piece they want to show we are great...thats the problem...if person like Vidyaranya who could influence whole Bharatha ..agreed for debate out come then it would have been only dvaita would have been there ...unlike its Advaita that accepted by whole world More and more advatians like Swami Vivekananda, Ramanamaharshi Aurobindo so on many great seers born to spread this and in the world... Tat Tvam Asi example:Madhusudhan saraswathi master of Vedas who wanted to conquer the advaita became greatest Advaitian..and bashed all Dvaitia philosophy ... As i said you will claim anything that says your great .. i dont know which this deshikar whose guru it self said there is no bedha in Ultimate truth and he gave judgment that dvaita won...other thing why did not vedanta deshikar accept the Dvaita... so its false story but u can keep doing research...which will not give any truth..
Being a Smartha and adi Shankaracharya follower: this lecture is a good one for unity
Excellent and scholarly lecture. Truly a broad minded pandit worthy of emulation by Santana dharmis and specially by trimatasta brahmanas
better to avoid controvercies work for consolidation of Hindu society
Your approach and attitude are really laudable. What is described by Bhagwan as "achintya" and " avyakta" can never be proved by debates ( which operate at the level of manas, buddhi and indriyas and Brahma is beyond these ). Hence let us unite and focus on the challenge posed by the other religions.
Nice anyalisis.
We need to unite for prevailing situation.
You people's will never change,
Conclusion words are fabulous...
Excellent Research, Acharyare bring even more true works and inspire all Retired intelligent MADHWA BRAHMINS to explore.
ವಿದ್ಯಾರಣ್ಯ ಆಚಾರ್ಯರ ಕಾಲಮಾನ ಹಾಗೂ ಅಕ್ಷೋಭ್ಯ ತೀರ್ಥರ ಕಾಲಮಾನದ ಬಗ್ಗೆ ಹೆಚ್ಚಿನ ಮಾಹಿತಿ ತಿಳಿದಿದ್ದಲ್ಲಿ ನೀವು ತಿಳಿಸಿ
English translation mil sakta hai kya , i will be very grateful
ನಿಮ್ಮ ಸಮಸ್ಯೆ ಪರಿಹಾರೋತ್ತರದಿಂದ ಮಾಧ್ವರ ಕಣ್ಣು ತೆರೆಸಿದಿರಿ ಕಣ್ಣು ತೆರೆದರೆ ಒಳ್ಳೆಯದು 🙏🙏🙏
Nice. Madhva philosophy is authentic. Please add English subtitles.. Let all others also know and let the information flow everywhere, please🙏
These people s are telling lies Vidhyaranya a great sage because of him Vijaya Nagar kingdom born Vidhyaranya pontiff of Sringeri mutt a great Challenger
Yes bro I was also shocked that just because they want to over glorify their Aacharya ,they are defaming the acharyas of Shankar Sampada how . A great aacharya like Vidya Rana because of his contribution towards Hinduism can never be forgotten and especially because of his contribution to the Vijayanagara Samrajya these people are forgetting that during the era of sripad vidyaranya India was attacked by the muslim emperor do you think that when Hinduism is being attacked by Muslims one Hindu philosopher will debate with another Hindu philosopher
That's what the argument is about , that's why the debate is happening , they are not defaming or belittling vidyaranyaru , they are just debating something that needs more debate because is not clear.
hey fool, hear what he says and then puke. Not a single sanyasi from Advaita is as famous and meritorious as some of Dvaita sanits. Dont lament here. Get lost.
Lol this incident is damn true
@@ramanujadasa121 jayatu samarth dharma
Vv good information. No body Tell. Thq..
Namaskara, The depth of research is great. There is one question. Vaishnavites say that Vedanta Desikar was the judge and he declared Akshobya theertharu as winner ( Ref: “Vedanta Deshika Vaibhava Prakashika”). whether this also a false one?
100% true sir
Beautiful presentation
Excellent, need of the hour
Super explanation
please add tanscriptions in english / hindi also so that we would also get benefit of these.
Please add English subtitles
One of the main character's in the picture Sri Vedanta dashika swami and his side of proofs are missing in the picture . we can t arrive at any conclusion until this side of story is seen . Also my main doubt is , it is clear that the Vada was on "Tatvamasi", which is very particular to Vedantees only . On debating with non vedanti , the topic would be on the praminikatha on veda etc,.. but not something so specific such as "Tatvamasi" and that too this word is the main source of debate with Advaithees and dwaithees .
Classic example of people not hearing correctly. Actually this speech is to that our Guru Vidyaranya and the debate vidyaranya is different .
G R Patil is absolutely right.
😄 🤣 😂. Old fool keeps contradicting himself . Hahah
Alla ree nivene heludhru adhakke para adhara erbeku.
Vidyaranyaru yaro nimma madhvarindha nijvaglu sothidre Sringeri ge Jagadgurugalu hege agthidru avaru.?? Matthe Shankara digvijaya bariyok agtirlilla
Please add english subtitle
Excellent!!
That “avaidika” is an indirect retort to Sringeri Vidyaranya only I guess!
Because in “Sarvadrshana samgraha” , Vidyaranya says Poorna prajna darshana is a pseudo Vedic school or an avaidic school under the cloth of a Vedic school !
Let me talk about the triggering point:
The triggering point would’ve been about which school falls close to the term avaidika. Whether Dvaita is avaidika or Advaita is avaidika.
The whole premise of the debate would’ve stood on the term avaidika! Hence a Veda vakhya was only taken as the main subject of the debate. Why would a Veda vakhya be taken as the subject for vakyartha if the debate was against some other non Vedic school?
Therefore intentionally the jaya shloka contains the prefix “avaidika”.
Till date I m upset that..why Madhawas hate Other sampradaya that much...infact Sumadhva Vijay starts from abusing Shankara...so much hatred...they first start teaching hate again smartha and then they teach madva shastra (so called).
These people teaching other things in name of Madvacharya....not sure if Madvacharya written those things ... people are so dumb that they don't even question them. Like Muslims.
tell me more please
you should know reality. shankaras also insulted madhwas. madhwas also insulted shankaras
This is because mithya vaada by Shankara
Please give subtitles in english so that it can reach more people. I wanted to know about this historical incident but can't understand a single thing.
I suggest you speak with the scholar or Google Sri Akshobhya tirtha and Sri Vidyaranya debate
🙏🙏🌹
Praiseworthy work. It has proved beyond doubt that there was no such vedic argument between Vidyaranya and Akshobha tirtha. It was a manipulated story to establish superiority. Baseless.
Why Madhvas become so cheap.?
Why dude, you lost face so calling us cheap? Baseless.
😂😂😂. cheap clime from your side. to escape 😂
@@haresrinivasa5226 whole of mathematics will fail. Aryabhatta gave clarification to the idea of Brahma in one verse in his book *Aryabhatiya* in 476 AD, even earlier. Ramanujan,great mathematician did mention before his death.
If mathematics fails, whole science fails.
It is not cheap clime. Truth.
Good 👍
"Aham Brahmasmi"
Lol, mayavadi spotted
Madhvarige swantaddu yavudu illave bari bereyavara matha mandira jagagalannu kutantradinda vashapadisikodu vinayasadhisidvi anno kattu kategale jasti annistide... Bhinna vada shivalinga tegedu shivalingavanne stapane madodu doddaguna... Anjaneyanannu pratisthapane madodu entha nicha manastiti...
Excellent aagi helirii superrr
Aham Brahmasmi
what do you mean?
@@sriramsurendran jayatu samarth dharma
@@user-io7sh7nx7c Then what are you doing here ? This is real not mithya 😂
@@harekrishna6402 I'm experiencing the Leela of Parabrahma Adi Keshava
@@harekrishna6402 let me ask you something... Do you believe God is infinite?
Excellent debate.At present all Hindus should unite and safeguard our culture.Why unnecessarily drag 14th century incident and prove what. All acharyas from various groups preached love peace etc.So Please stop this type of argument Madwas party pranadeva.Pranadeva is also from rudra.So for gods sake stop this self praising
Sir, Rudra is from our Pranadeva. Debate was took place to establish siddhanta that's all. We all HINDUS should unite, no compromise sir.
I think debates are good, paksha and poorva paksha had always been the beauty of our Vedantas. We need to test what is true and follow and therefore this debate is very brave attempt to establish the same. For example, a medicine, before coming to the market, has to go several rounds of testing.In a similar way fair debates bring out the satya, otherwise the system will become monopolised and corrupt.
Vidyaranya is too stall man.. Akshobhya Tirtha is nothing infront of him this must some Vidyaranya name person..
No way Vidyaranya would have discussion with this person called Akshobhya Tirtha
@@phanikashyap8096
Oh you must be 600 to 700 yrs old to claim it. Claims of Patil book will not stand too long.
Hypothetical cases won't stand .You are no one to claim that it must be some other person,it is just a hypothetical situation and not the final verdict. LET RESEARCH CONTINUE.
Even we can say akshobhya tirtha was greater than vidyaranya just like that.
Vidyaranya is great for you and akshobhya tirtha is same for us.
It is just foolish to claim debate didn't happe on the basis of greatness.
No way vidyaranya could have debated with akshobhya tirtha...😂😂, It is not you who decide.
Vedanta deshikar proofs are much more valid ,that's why your side is trying to object by saying they both belong to same period,but research shows it further.
@@Sookshmagnya Your comparison is totally baseless that way to claim any thing people should have lived minimum 10000 are more years...
Yes Hypothetical wont stand..the whole story that you are doing here baseless...people like vidyaranya would have got into this debate and felt otherwise... he would have accepted the truth..and moved with you..
Vidayranya was Greatest of seers all time...definitely incomparable with any seers including your madhwacharya..
About debate you also cant decide ..problem with Dvatians even small piece they want to show we are great...thats the problem...if person like Vidyaranya who could influence whole Bharatha ..agreed for debate out come then it would have been only dvaita would have been there ...unlike its Advaita that accepted by whole world
More and more advatians like Swami Vivekananda, Ramanamaharshi Aurobindo so on many great seers born to spread this and in the world... Tat Tvam Asi
example:Madhusudhan saraswathi master of Vedas who wanted to conquer the advaita became greatest Advaitian..and bashed all Dvaitia philosophy ...
As i said you will claim anything that says your great .. i dont know which this deshikar whose guru it self said there is no bedha in Ultimate truth and he gave judgment that dvaita won...other thing why did not vedanta deshikar accept the Dvaita...
so its false story but u can keep doing research...which will not give any truth..
there is no debate b/with akshobya tirtha and vidyaharanya swami hapiend