There were so many situations vs ESAM where peanut just straight up had the read and outplayed but the Pikachu jank just made it all whiff. The clank on the KO punch, the thunder in the middle of jab lock, hurtbox shifting away from the counter on the thunder, etc.
The KO punch was just jank, but everything else was literally just the character. The Thunder was because once it gets activated it doesn’t stop, the bolt goes until it hits something. It wasn’t hurtbox shifting on the counter, it was INVINCABILITY FRAMES. In the words of a bald man- Pikachu? Busted.
I feel like specifically mac vs pikachu is such a horrendous matchup for mac. I mean a ton of his matchups are already bad but pika vs mac feels like something else. On another note, what does monika main in ultimate?
Jesus Christ the jank on Pikachu is unreal. Beyblade triple back air offstage for a kill at pathetic percents, Peanut read the down B like a book and hard countered for absolutely zero reward, then ESAM manages to call down another bolt from Zeus in the middle of getting juggled by uptilt. Fair and balanced.
@@Okenpo A quick google search says that the thunderbolt comes out on frame 2 and connects with Pikachu on frame 13. That is pretty ridiculous considering that its impossible to tell if Pikachu uses it if you're close to him and knock him out of lag, and how much reward there is when it hits.
The funny part is that Peanut actually has beaten Esam before, and with how hard Esam rocked Peanut, it makes me think that Esam lost to Peanut, then HARD studied Little Mac just so he could win the runback.
I remember seeing that actually. Only that win was in friendlies which might also have something to do with it. You might be on to something though, if it's true it's hilarious :P
@@r.u.s.e3586 you think Esam, wants to be known as someone who lost against what he has deemed as the worst character in the game? He hella hard studied.
At least the worst character in the game can make it to GFs. Could you imagine Smash 4 Puff in a Smash 4 GFs? I’m sad too but lets be a little thankful lol
I’ve always said that Pikachu cheats, but this was a whole other level. Like come on, Peanut perfectly countered that thunder, but Pikachu just straight up said “Nope”.
one game was made 20 years ago and had a super rushed development. The other was made by a billion dollar corporation with no rushed development. I know they are both nintendo, but with how big of a company nintendo is atm its inexcusable to be releasing games with these kind of poor functioning abilities and hit/hurtboxes
@@rockyino99 Yet the “rushed” one feels trillions of times better than the “no rushed” one Movement is much smoother and there’s many ways to play a single character unlike the 1 dimensional way you play each character in Ultimate.
And nintendo buffed that multi hit shit.... As if was something that affected that rat. Maybe not many people play pika but i guess the main reason is that people don't want to feel dirty, just like people refusing to pick bayo back then on smash4
@@peluquin98 It's more because all the super good stuff Pika has requires some very strict input discipline. It's very helpful but there are other good characters that can play well without so much practice.
They were both playing well, and that’s what makes the unfair jank so sad. The matches with ESAM were often neck and neck because they both played their souls out, but then the deadlock gets broken by some jank…
KO punch should never trade under any circumstance. Pikachu is a legit menace and it’ll only become more obvious with time. Our only hope is to bring Esam to Boxing Ring for the mental game.
ehhh, it was aerial ko punch which is supposed to be bad and stupid… but the thunder, back air, and powering through a perfect counter were stupid busted.
5:50 Oh yeah..... aparently K.O punch straight up doesn't work if your oponent (and I think you) are in the air, it only works if you land it on the ground. And then it trated
@@directorh7649 I know it hits, but it sends nowhere, I remember I saw a Clip a long time ago where a Mac K.O punched an Incineroar at 90% in the air, it hit but it send him nowhere
I think you can do it off the ledge and transition to grounded ko punch if you're at just the right elevation to put your feet on the stage, kinda like an inverse of how aerial warlock punch works
@@c1yd335 yeah exactly, both are insanely hard to play but both yield very different results, and have very vastly different advantage and disadvantage states.
@@extonjonas6820 that ganon is hard to play, and pika are hard to play, on a HIGH level, BUT: Pikachu will reap very different rewards for the amount of work you have to do. Ganon requires giga brain thinking, but even with all that hard work, hes capable of much less than pikachu. Someone like joker is hard to play but if u master him hes (debatably) the best character in the game.
I don’t think we will find a little Mac like Peanut. Here’s why: BC THIS MAN TOOK THE LOWEST RATED CHARACTER IN THE GAME TO GRAND FINALS AND PLACED 2ND!! EVEN WITH HIS LOSS THIS WILL BE SOMETHING TO REMEMBER FOR A VERY LONG TIME!!
1: this was an online event so it wasn't that insane. That tournament wasn't even stacked. 2: he still is insane 3: there is actually a little mac player in Japan that is arguably the best little mac in Japan called tarakotori
Skyjay and Peanut are champions idc what anyone says. they take the bottom of the barrel and do what nobody else will, through thousands and thousands of match ups and losses to find the way to win. They are the main characters, not the smash gods. I hope to see more low tier mains climb the ladder to prove that experience can trump raw power. Especially when you imagine the fact that peanut has played way more Mac Vs Top Tier matches than top tiers have played vs Mac. So in a way, its all relative to your individual knowledge. But boy does pikachu look like hes from a different game in this set. ESAM knows how to maximize that power. Looked like little mac was in a boss fight every time.
Watching this made me feel like Little Mac was legitimately untested. I've never seen more jank in a professional setting in my life. Even more so the fact it was in Winner's Finals and beyond is crazy to me. This is why we need patches to continue, whether its official or not. I love watching this game and I hope the community survives.
Little Mac is the most satisfying character to play. You get to show everyone the you can beat people’s asses with someone that’s basically bottom tier and it just looks embarrassing for them
Little Mac is the Dan Hibiki of Smash Ultimate. Popular character, low tier, has glaring issues and a lot of bad matchups, but in the right hands, can be made to look like a God and say “F the tier lists!” Safe to say that Peanut is not just the best Little Mac player. Peanut is THE Little Mac player.
I give props to both players for their clear skill in their respective characters, but what would have happened if Esam played Samus or something, instead of Pikachu vs Peanut’s Mac? Would we get a different outcome or the same one?
WaDi could 3-0 Leo in a Grands set then go to the next tournament and get smashed by a random Yink player lmao. Like this dude has such a high ceiling, but the floor is an abyss down from it. Love WaDi tho
How do people still not know about Little Mac having a kill throw? I remember at LTC, I 3 stocked a Mii Brawler/ROB player and got super upset that I killed him with back throw. Thank God I had it on video, too 🙌
Why yes it does, I’m glad someone asked finally. My friend mains mac cause of peanut, and we actually have an inside joke where we just randomly call out “did you know ko punch has a sour spot” because we found out the hard way one time XD
Ah yes I get it. WaDi went from R.O.B. to Mewtwo because R.O.B. as a Steel type is weak to fighting and Mewtwo is strong against it. An understandable counterpick strategy.
ESAM carried by Pikachu, again... Huge props to Peanut for at least taking a couple stocks with a low tier and making it to grand finals. I think we all know which player has a higher skill level between the two.
Pikachu is insanely hard to play, especially at a higher level. They’re both amazing players, but sometimes it’s just a matchup difference. ESAM imo isn’t carried, he put just as much time into learning his character as Peanut. (Also in my opinion Pikachu is harder to learn just as a character whereas Little Mac requires a smarter player type in general but not as much time to learn the character itself. tl;dr pika busted but not braindead/a clutch
@@brentontreloar419 I wasn’t down talking him? Maybe you missed my point sorry. But it’s more fun to watch someone do really well with a bottom tier then it is to watch Esam win with a top tier over and over. You get what I mean?
@@c1yd335 yeah but esam wins all the time so it’s not very fun to watch. And in this matchup I don’t think it’s very hard at all for Pika, you see esam get like 2-3 stocks just with a b-air strings.
There were so many situations vs ESAM where peanut just straight up had the read and outplayed but the Pikachu jank just made it all whiff. The clank on the KO punch, the thunder in the middle of jab lock, hurtbox shifting away from the counter on the thunder, etc.
The KO punch was just jank, but everything else was literally just the character. The Thunder was because once it gets activated it doesn’t stop, the bolt goes until it hits something. It wasn’t hurtbox shifting on the counter, it was INVINCABILITY FRAMES. In the words of a bald man- Pikachu? Busted.
I feel like specifically mac vs pikachu is such a horrendous matchup for mac. I mean a ton of his matchups are already bad but pika vs mac feels like something else.
On another note, what does monika main in ultimate?
@@yharim180 I am a digusting shameless Aegis main.
@@momojishu PHOTON EDGE
@@momojishu crying rn
Video has once again shown me the power of pikachu bs lol
Major props to peanut. Always a pleasure seeing him fight.
Love to see how far his Mac has come.
His plot armor followed him from the anime
Jesus Christ the jank on Pikachu is unreal. Beyblade triple back air offstage for a kill at pathetic percents, Peanut read the down B like a book and hard countered for absolutely zero reward, then ESAM manages to call down another bolt from Zeus in the middle of getting juggled by uptilt. Fair and balanced.
Up tilt strings like that aren't true. I think that thunder was pretty fair and intelligent. BUT I agree that Pikachu is NUTS 😂
@@Okenpo A quick google search says that the thunderbolt comes out on frame 2 and connects with Pikachu on frame 13. That is pretty ridiculous considering that its impossible to tell if Pikachu uses it if you're close to him and knock him out of lag, and how much reward there is when it hits.
The funny part is that Peanut actually has beaten Esam before, and with how hard Esam rocked Peanut, it makes me think that Esam lost to Peanut, then HARD studied Little Mac just so he could win the runback.
I remember seeing that actually. Only that win was in friendlies which might also have something to do with it.
You might be on to something though, if it's true it's hilarious :P
I mean maybe, he probably had little experience playing against a mac
@@r.u.s.e3586 He also lost the friendly he played against Wadi though, so maybe there's a chance if he studies the pikachu mu.
@@r.u.s.e3586 you think Esam, wants to be known as someone who lost against what he has deemed as the worst character in the game?
He hella hard studied.
maybe studying, but pikajank also helped quite a bit on those games lol
Ladies and gentlemen: the tier list.
Ladies and gentlemen
Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
Ladies and Gentlemen:
LET THE HYPE SCREAMING AND YELLING BATTLE BEGINS!!!!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥
I swear😭😭 its so un-winable on a pro level
At least the worst character in the game can make it to GFs. Could you imagine Smash 4 Puff in a Smash 4 GFs? I’m sad too but lets be a little thankful lol
Ladies and gentlemen : the Nintendo switch
The fact that Pikachu never got nerfed still baffles me
For real
@@StyxYRenegade Sakurai clearly biased
and pichu got a mountain of nerfs following ultimates release :(
There were no Pikachu's in Japan. That's all it comes down to.
How many nerfs does Pikachu need to lose to Mac??????
You just KNOW ESAM was sweating his balls off mashing for those 2 Thunders 😂
I’ve always said that Pikachu cheats, but this was a whole other level. Like come on, Peanut perfectly countered that thunder, but Pikachu just straight up said “Nope”.
Man every time, it’s literally magic seeing peanut salvage all potential Little Mac has and uses it to his advantage. It’s awesome
That reverse slowmo on the shield break actually looked sick wtf
9:08 "This game is unfinished!"
Hungrybox, professional Melee player, about Ultimate
Gives his statement some merit, don't you think? Lol
lmao
one game was made 20 years ago and had a super rushed development. The other was made by a billion dollar corporation with no rushed development. I know they are both nintendo, but with how big of a company nintendo is atm its inexcusable to be releasing games with these kind of poor functioning abilities and hit/hurtboxes
Rockyino Rushed is rushed. Don't matter the time or money.
@@rockyino99
Yet the “rushed” one feels trillions of times better than the “no rushed” one
Movement is much smoother and there’s many ways to play a single character unlike the 1 dimensional way you play each character in Ultimate.
1:16 In my head I can just hear
*"We'll begin the curl-ups now. Ready? Begin! Up. Down, 1. Up. Down, 2"*
Yeah I just had my fitness test with that😂
I like how the curl-up audio ended with "That's rough, buddy"
it's like the commentators knew what Hbox was doing
Pikachu: back airs 1 time.
Little Mac: guess I'll die.
Mac's missed that time, thus leaving him self wide open for punishment.
@@orangeslash1667 just don't miss bro.
@@overlordjames6644 yeah
Wadi is literally the best smash personality to ever exist. He's so fuckin funny and likable. What an awesome dude
well that aged poorly
@idunnohonestly9519 what happened??
@@leongarcia4041 sexual harassment/manipulation/grooming/pedophilia
@@leongarcia4041 wadi got exposed for being a shit friend and a sex creep.
you know, the usual smash community thing
@@idunnohonestly9519 y
This video didn’t show that Mac was insane, it showed that Pikachu is unfair
He absolutely demolished Wadi that last game oml
[ 8:07 ] This is some Star Platinum shit. What a finishing blow, man.
One day, Peanut will win a major and then Tier lists are gonna be remade
That shield break was almost like a jumpscare for Wadi
I already knew Pika was gonna eat him alive for any mistake. Back air is STILL busted as hell lol
And nintendo buffed that multi hit shit....
As if was something that affected that rat.
Maybe not many people play pika but i guess the main reason is that people don't want to feel dirty, just like people refusing to pick bayo back then on smash4
@@peluquin98 It's more because all the super good stuff Pika has requires some very strict input discipline. It's very helpful but there are other good characters that can play well without so much practice.
@@r.u.s.e3586 i agree its not fully brain dead so ESAM's Pika will remain nerf free as of now :)
@@FlightX101 triple back air kill confirm is easier than recovering as mac at 15% seems pretty brain dead to me.
I love how this entire comment section ignores how well both players were playing and just essentially goes "this games unfair" and I am 110% for it
I think we can agree that Mac vs pika is unfair.
They were both playing well, and that’s what makes the unfair jank so sad. The matches with ESAM were often neck and neck because they both played their souls out, but then the deadlock gets broken by some jank…
Those finals were literally one word
Unfair
8:54 theres bs but then theres just a septic tank
Mark my words, peanut will win a tournament one day. I believe in him
KO punch should never trade under any circumstance. Pikachu is a legit menace and it’ll only become more obvious with time.
Our only hope is to bring Esam to Boxing Ring for the mental game.
ehhh, it was aerial ko punch which is supposed to be bad and stupid… but the thunder, back air, and powering through a perfect counter were stupid busted.
I just realized; there's always a pokemon with a green bandana that nobody wants to see him win
Its such a gigachad move to be this good at the game and choose the worst character, mad respect
once again peanut is normalizing the mixture of the words "mac" and "finals" in one sentence
You either hate Pikachu or you main him
You can do both.
Alternative choice: you main Pichu
5:50 Oh yeah..... aparently K.O punch straight up doesn't work if your oponent (and I think you) are in the air, it only works if you land it on the ground. And then it trated
KO punch works in the air. It just doesn't have the same properties it would have in the air
@@directorh7649 I know it hits, but it sends nowhere, I remember I saw a Clip a long time ago where a Mac K.O punched an Incineroar at 90% in the air, it hit but it send him nowhere
@@santiagoherrera1853 trades cause then to go nowhere. Aerial KO punch kills, but it's around 150%
I think you can do it off the ledge and transition to grounded ko punch if you're at just the right elevation to put your feet on the stage, kinda like an inverse of how aerial warlock punch works
@@lazyryan3766 totally, it's called a Gazelle punch. That's what he tried to do. However, failed Gazelle punch leads to aerial KO punch
Pikachu needs to get his nonexistent kneecaps broken in smash 6.
The pikachu vs Mac sets was the most jank I’ve seen in this game in a long time
8:06 i see the commentator is cultured
to be fair. peanut having the nuts
(no pun intended) to use little mac in a tournament shows that no matter if he loses, he's winning our hearts.
The tier list is a lie.
It’s a difficulty tier and I’m tired of pretending it’s not.
Mmmmm pikachu is super hard to play at that level. Thats why there is only one good one.
you cannot tell me that ganon and Pikachu are on the same level cuz both take 582858 iq to play at a pro level
@@c1yd335 yeah exactly, both are insanely hard to play but both yield very different results, and have very vastly different advantage and disadvantage states.
@@RurouniiJay What exactly are you trying to say here?
@@extonjonas6820 that ganon is hard to play, and pika are hard to play, on a HIGH level, BUT:
Pikachu will reap very different rewards for the amount of work you have to do. Ganon requires giga brain thinking, but even with all that hard work, hes capable of much less than pikachu. Someone like joker is hard to play but if u master him hes (debatably) the best character in the game.
I don’t think we will find a little Mac like Peanut. Here’s why: BC THIS MAN TOOK THE LOWEST RATED CHARACTER IN THE GAME TO GRAND FINALS AND PLACED 2ND!! EVEN WITH HIS LOSS THIS WILL BE SOMETHING TO REMEMBER FOR A VERY LONG TIME!!
1: this was an online event so it wasn't that insane.
That tournament wasn't even stacked.
2: he still is insane
3: there is actually a little mac player in Japan that is arguably the best little mac in Japan called tarakotori
@@JB-fd8jy you must be fun at parties
@@roromon1970 I definitely am not fun at parties. Sorry to disappoint you
Skyjay and Peanut are champions idc what anyone says. they take the bottom of the barrel and do what nobody else will, through thousands and thousands of match ups and losses to find the way to win. They are the main characters, not the smash gods. I hope to see more low tier mains climb the ladder to prove that experience can trump raw power. Especially when you imagine the fact that peanut has played way more Mac Vs Top Tier matches than top tiers have played vs Mac. So in a way, its all relative to your individual knowledge.
But boy does pikachu look like hes from a different game in this set. ESAM knows how to maximize that power. Looked like little mac was in a boss fight every time.
@@elliottaddison8116 I can agree to that. ESAM Mac vs pikachu is super difficult for Mac
Mario Ref count had me rolling. 😂
Props for honoring the bet lol.
I love how the other player just doesn't exist to the announcers. Like all focus is on lil Mac during the match and it's fantastic.
Yo Peanut tried so hard and did so good, that was the most unfair grand finals ever, i bet not a Single viewer cheered for esam during these two sets
He's beaten esam in a Bo5 before
Honestly if they never played eachother Esam loses. 100%
1:09 THAT KILLED AT 24% WTF
Boi that can kill Palu at like 18
That murdered at 24%!!!!!
Man I love watching peanut play. It brings back so many good memories of watching noble sol play back in smash 4
There is no tier list… until little mac fights a pikachu.
Watching this made me feel like Little Mac was legitimately untested. I've never seen more jank in a professional setting in my life. Even more so the fact it was in Winner's Finals and beyond is crazy to me. This is why we need patches to continue, whether its official or not. I love watching this game and I hope the community survives.
Funny way to spell Pikachu
Mac 3 stock? This has to be the peak of Peanut’s ability surely he can’t win… or can he?
Esam: sweating his ball doing all those rat combos not wanting to lose to a lowtier
Ballerisms
Hello there
Ayooo great run
Little Mac is the most satisfying character to play. You get to show everyone the you can beat people’s asses with someone that’s basically bottom tier and it just looks embarrassing for them
Little Mac is meant to be the underdog of this game
Like Toretto says, "The only thing that matters is who is behind the wheel."
The mario animation while doing sit ups is top tier
Those sit ups though
As someone who mains Pikachu with a pocket Mac and R.O.B., I see this as an absolute win
2:55 Guess we will never know what's Little Mac doing on a spaceship >.>
Little Mac is the Dan Hibiki of Smash Ultimate. Popular character, low tier, has glaring issues and a lot of bad matchups, but in the right hands, can be made to look like a God and say “F the tier lists!”
Safe to say that Peanut is not just the best Little Mac player. Peanut is THE Little Mac player.
Peanut's mac is living proof that tier lists don't matter UNTIL Pikachu walks in
8:54 "No, nintendo would NEVER show favoritism!"
Mannnnnn... Way to go PEANUT. Pikachu is such a menace and not even because it's Esam's.
Esam finally caught those boxing ring hands
That fucking ending to the Wadi set with the disrespect to just walk forward and let your opponent fall into the abyss OMEGALUL
I give props to both players for their clear skill in their respective characters, but what would have happened if Esam played Samus or something, instead of Pikachu vs Peanut’s Mac? Would we get a different outcome or the same one?
WaDi could 3-0 Leo in a Grands set then go to the next tournament and get smashed by a random Yink player lmao. Like this dude has such a high ceiling, but the floor is an abyss down from it. Love WaDi tho
Little Mac is a skill based character. We like seeing him win because his odds are always against him. RIP.
Peanuts training arc meets ESAM'S villain arc.
Made me remember when I mained Mac back in 4, I miss that game, I miss playing smash for fun.
How peanut plays like this and STILL didn't get into summit is BEYOND me. The dude is an icon.
People don’t wanna see Little Mac succeed
@@ONLY_RR7 they fear him is the real reason
I knew Pikachu matchups were bad but the bullshit Peanut went through at the end was unbelievable
Peanut the GOAT frfr
How do people still not know about Little Mac having a kill throw? I remember at LTC, I 3 stocked a Mii Brawler/ROB player and got super upset that I killed him with back throw. Thank God I had it on video, too 🙌
"Pikachu Busted."
9:49 Bruh what
Oh God Peanut is Fighting again!!!
8:45 I just realised that WaDi runs away a lot when he loses
Esam Fighting Mac.
I need that boxing ring right now.
Does K.O punch have a sour spot?
Why yes it does, I’m glad someone asked finally. My friend mains mac cause of peanut, and we actually have an inside joke where we just randomly call out “did you know ko punch has a sour spot” because we found out the hard way one time XD
Peanut is slowly climbing the latter and I love it.
You know you're a demon when you make the worst character a god.
"That's why the call him peanut he's got the brain the size of a PEANUT!" -The ant bully
If Peanut mained Palutena or Wolf or whatever, he'd be getting to top 8 of most majors.
he does secondary main wolf
buuuuut he's not good at it. LM's playstyle very different from Wolf's
If peanut played kazuya he would be top 20 in world. Think about it, a ground based fighter with a subpar disadvantage, but insane ground offense
Closest he'll ever go to boxing ring
Ah yes I get it. WaDi went from R.O.B. to Mewtwo because R.O.B. as a Steel type is weak to fighting and Mewtwo is strong against it. An understandable counterpick strategy.
L I Q U I D | P E A N U T for the love of god
ESAM carried by Pikachu, again... Huge props to Peanut for at least taking a couple stocks with a low tier and making it to grand finals. I think we all know which player has a higher skill level between the two.
Yeah, there’s a reason why I never watch Esams streams but always watch peanut
Pikachu is insanely hard to play, especially at a higher level. They’re both amazing players, but sometimes it’s just a matchup difference. ESAM imo isn’t carried, he put just as much time into learning his character as Peanut. (Also in my opinion Pikachu is harder to learn just as a character whereas Little Mac requires a smarter player type in general but not as much time to learn the character itself.
tl;dr
pika busted but not braindead/a clutch
You know you can praise someone without down talking another, they are both extremely skilled players
@@brentontreloar419 I wasn’t down talking him? Maybe you missed my point sorry. But it’s more fun to watch someone do really well with a bottom tier then it is to watch Esam win with a top tier over and over. You get what I mean?
@@c1yd335 yeah but esam wins all the time so it’s not very fun to watch. And in this matchup I don’t think it’s very hard at all for Pika, you see esam get like 2-3 stocks just with a b-air strings.
Peanut outplayed ESAM. Easily. A true victim of an op vs not great character.
and a few weeks later, peanut got the run back first to 10 on esam
8:55
Pikachu had invul because of the lightning hitting him
My 2 mains in the finals. What a beautiful timeline to be alive
Pikachu is a fair and honest character
8:54
LOL, I said "What?" in sync with HBox.
9:50 didn’t know smash had a burst meter
Hungrybox, the Ironman to Peanut's Spiderman
Imagine only playing the most gimmicky top tier characters to win.
game 2 vs wadi i heard “battle for glory” a dragon quest song but also channeling sm4sh wifi 4glory mac
Like, I’m not great at this game, but usually I can keep up with what’s going on.
What in the FUCK is pikachu?
Slightly confused, can anyone explain to me what happened at 5:50 please?
8:07 MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA!
8:12 MUDAAAAAAA!
A wise man once said: “Matchups suck”
Tbh I think pikachu should have thunder interrupted if struck just for balance on top of the fact it cancels/hides the sound of it being used
We get hype on peanut because we have his personal commentary hungrybox
Peanut is wayyy to good he makes little Mac look like a top tier in your tier list
Feels like play with Mac since watching this 💯
Only to probably get 3 stocked🤣
That last stock on Wadi’s Mewtwo was absolutely rancid. Most disgusting thing I have seen in a while