Mr. Olympia 1979
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- In honor of the 2019 Olympia weekend i've created a full contest recap covering the 1979 Mr. Olympia competition that took place Sunday October 7th at Veterans Memorial Auditorium.
Sources: Muscle Builder May 1979, Muscle Builder February 1980, Muscle Builder March 1980, Muscle Builder May 1980 and MuscleMag International March 1980
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I was at the contest. Frank and Mike were head and shoulders above everyone else. They had a “finished” look about them that no one else had. I could not choose a winner between them until the evening show when Mike stood there with his stomach distended. I told my brother that Mike just lost the contest right there, whether that was the real reason or not it was the only differentiation I saw between the two the whole day.
These were Arnold's sentiments only one year later at the most controversial Mr. Olympia ever. Its probably semantics because Mentzer had an amazing vacuum certainly comparable to Frank Zane. A side- by- side vacuum comparison would be interesting.
I was there. I wanted Mentzer to win but Zane deserved it.
I have always wanted to hear from someone who was there. I know Mentzer had a perfect score in the tall class and lost the overall in the posedown to Zane.
Interesting to hear that you felt Frank did in fact, deserve it
@@yoholmes273 Zane probably looked his best that year. He had better shape and symmetry according to the judges.
Mentzer got a perfect score, the first in Olympia history, was a heavyweight (usually heavyweights - bigger guys, especially today are favored over the smaller guys) and lost? How does someone with the lower score win? I talked to Mike in the 90’s about this, and after the 1980 Olympia he was sickened by the whole process and quit competitive bodybuilding altogether. There’s also alot more that went on, what we talked about, but is beyond the scope of a comment here. He was a really great, brilliant guy. It was really sad when he died, and his brother Ray just a few days later. He definitely left his mark though.
MrChuckwagon55 I just want to start off by saying that Mentzer and Zane have been 2 of my favorite Bodybuilders since the beginning, before the “golden era rush.” With that said, Mentzer’s perfect score in the 1979 Mr. Olympia Heavyweight category is not as impressive as the perfect score he achieved in the 78 Mr. Universe. My reasoning is because the Olympia had such a shallow Heavyweight lineup that year with only 5 competitors in total (Walker, Birdsong, Mentzer, Tinerino and Callender) Everybody in that lineup was off besides Mentzer. He could have been standing next to a cactus and still would have walked away with a perfect score. I think what confuses people the most about this particular competition is the changing in scoring from prejudging to the night show. The night show was scored by only adding 1st place scores... So even though Mentzer went into the night show with the most points(300) and Zane in a close second(299) Mentzer was only given one 1st place vote from judge Malih Alaywan of Lebanon. The rest of the judges besides Bill Pearl awarded Zane with 1st place votes (5 in total) Bill Pearl had awarded Boyer Coe with a 1st place vote which I find very interesting because nobody ever talks about that. As I said in my video, this was extremely close and Zane was at his best, but still very lucky. From everything I’ve read and some pictures I’ve seen Mentzer faded into the night show which is what gave Zane the edge. If you’d like to see the full scorecard check out my instagram page @retromusclemags
Greg Pettis
To become a movie star.
@Greg Pettis Arnold more or less retired. He'd been competing for years prior. He had his sights on bigger things. Mentzer quit after the 1981 Olympia citing politics and a rigged system (he wasn't the only one either) and decided to go the personal training route and build his heavy duty brand. He held a lot of resentment toward the bb establishment and had other problems too, smoking and other substances. His 1979 shape was one of the best ever imo.
@Greg Pettis Because he was insane and a meth head.
@@christofl6523 Meth head? No.
The Time where Human Beauty and aesthetics were still appreciated. So sad for the Millenials that they will not see these masterpieces anymore.
Mike M-e-n-t-z-e-r was a friend of mine. I met him in early 1979 at Syracuse Bodybuilding (Liverpool, NY) where he gave a seminar on HDT using Nautilus equipment. More recently, in his memory (as his friend the physics professor) I developed a method called X-HDRT (Extra Heavy Duty Resistance Training) to help folks rehabilitate injuries to tendons and ligaments along with building muscle.
I was there Zane was the winner like you said Menzer smoothed out
Mentzer looked great, but he didn't have the detail Zane had. He definately looked softer in the later pics. In one you even see Mike's belly hanging out, which is the insult Arnold used on him in 1980. Also, the pics don't tell the story of the presentations. Frank was a masterful poser who perfected the art of displaying his physique from all angles. I've never heard of Mike's posing being anything special. Great video.
Mike Mentzer Frank Zane and Steve Reeves are my favorites of all time
The same here. Their symmetry and BALANCE has no equal in history.
Same here, I would add Robbie Robinson to that. Too bad he wasn't in his best shape here.
I think Robbie suffered from cutting down from the heavy weight class.
Frank Zane he is the LEGENDARY
Reeves and mentzer for me .... and I have to throw nuebret in there ... never get tired of looking at those three
A fan of Frank going back to the 60's
In the early 80's I trained at his gym in Palm Springs
It was called Zane Haven, it was an awesome facility where mind, soul and muscle all came together.
I would have loved to see Frank on stage at 215 ripped and shredded.
I was there my Dad took me I was 16 years old. On the plane when we flew to Columbus Mike Mentzer and Ray and Dave Draper were on the plane. Mentzer got up and walked down the aisle of the plane the flight attendant approached Mike and she started coughing lol it was the weirdest thing she knelt down coughing and Mike held his hand out and helped her up. I had a muscle and fitness magazine with me and it was weider on the cover using Robby's body. There was Serge Nubret I handed him the magazine and he surprising he signed it, I have a lot of signatures with the brochure Bill Pearl is one Ed Corney was charging for his autograph. I thought Dave Draper guessed posed also I could be wrong. I did take some pictures of Robby and Zane and Mentzer there. I was along time ago but I do remember that when Robby walked out and turned to the audience there were gasps. I thank my Dad for taking me, he is not here anymore and I miss him very much! My true Hero!
16:00 - this picture speaks a thousand words. Whereas Mentzer looked tremendous the night before, he looks bloated and holding water in the finals.
wasn't there but-- I was front and centre in the audience when mike competed in the mr North America 2 years before in Vancouver which was my first pro show. great memories '
mike was thick but un polished exhibiting his trademark big arms , calves and slightly distended belly whilst relaxed.
ZANE sure shined BIG TIME on this day...MAGNIFICO !!!
Robby weighed under 200lbs that year. Zane was ripped and proportioned.
Mike Mentzer 🥇& Frank Zane 🥈
Epic 👑 Rob always looks pretty good
It may be largely forgotten now, but Robinson was the clear favorite in the late 70s and consistently got his conditioning wrong in big shows. I saw him in shape at the 76 universe in Montreal, and his density was insane, far above most bodybuilders not named Columbu or Yates.
From Mexico, thanks for the memories.
Zane looked better than ever there! Definitely the best one 🥇
I remember reading about the contest and the article ( I believe m&f) said zanes presentation and posing won the day, for example apparently mentzer kept forgetting to flex one if his thighs. They also stated it was like a comparison between a show horse and a work horse.
Look at that gut on Mentzer at the awards handout. He was lucky to get second.
Mentzer had a PERFECT score prior to the posedown. Mentzer lost primarily because he couldn't control his "belly" on stage. Take a look @16:02 and tell me what you think with Frank and Mentzer standing side by side.
Underrated Tinerino
He was incredibly wide!!
Thank you for uploading this
Your doing a great review. Great job. From the sledgemaster 3 times making professional powerlifting history in 2022 and ex-bodybuilder, strongman, Olympic lifter and now professional powerlifter.
Mike Mentzer 79 should have been overall Mr Olympia. That was his ALLTIME best condition. He had everything Zane had with a more hurculean build.
PROJECT DX watch the video of him in 80’ that was his all time best condition, he was out of this world shredded and dry, 90’s level conditioning
His presentation was off, is what they said back then.
No he shouldn't have been. Didn't you watch and listen to the video? He was soft and had a big gut at the final pose down. Zane had 5 first place votes to his 1.
Pause the video at 16:00. That says it all.
Love to come back and watch this video. Wish there were more like it.
Men(t)zer - you emphasize the “t” - it’s the “n” you emphasize
I absolutely love your videos, keep it up my brother!
I actually thought this was another channel of yours 😄
Exactly right about comments from those who were not there, so many people just go by the photographs or video footage and say such and such or so and so should have won or shoudn't have won. I knew people who went to the 1980 mr olympia and they said arnold shouldn't have won he was way off compared to some of the other competing bodybuilders and basically the majority of the audience their booed as he was announced the winner. Yet so many people just going by photographs reckon he should have won.
I remember in one of the muscle magazines (musclemag i think) someone mentioned after Dorian Yates won his 3rd olympia that they could not see why everyone was raving about him as he didn't look that much bigger then the other competitors in the photos, and the writer said you have to see Dorian for real to appreciate his size and thickness as the photographs don't show how dominent he really was.
I remember the interview from the TV coverage of the event where Arnold asked Zane, "So how does it feel to win your third straight Mr. Olympia?" Zane answered, "It feels almost as good as when I beat you in '68!" Some say he didn't add in '68, but I don't remember that omission. You don't 'humiliate' Arnold in front of an international audience. It's said that was one of the prime motivations for Arnold's 1980 comeback. It's said that Arnold kept his prep and intentions away from Zane so that Zane wouldn't back out. Jack Neary had good scuttlebutt and speculation leading up to the Sydney affair.
In 1980 Arnold look bad..that was so rigged..lol
This was a really good line up, I had forgotten how many good guys were in it.
Mentzer would have got the 1980 by a hair as mass was becoming more popular. Arnold was too smooth.
It's MENTZER. not METZER!!
Yeah, I loved and appreciated the video as well... but, I cringed every time I heard him say Metzer as well. lol
The last couple of pictures speak volumes although a couple were bigger Frank Zane a Greek or Roman statue come to life... Mentzer looked very wide in the midsection...
really interesting especially training with Doug young. guy was a monster
Damn these guys competed back to back in those days and they had such great physiques
Ask John Hansen Natural Mr. Universe and Natural Mr. Olympia. He was there.
"natural" 😂
RETRO MUSCLE-- BROTHER I hope you are OK, you haven't posted in many months and we ALL miss these amazing videos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Zane: if you really look- freaky definition in his back and great width, also calves -freaky. Anyone who trains with Doug Young-C'mon. Sorry Mentzer (actually one classic BBI never met) I would have asked why did you let your gut hang out, while the contest was still ON! JR
Great content 👍👍😊😊 thanks for sharing ❤️
Mentzer won imo
No he didn't and it wasn't even close. 5 first place votes to Zane with only 1 to Mentzer.
16:00... He is pregnant!
EXACTLY WHY YOU'RE OPINION DON'T MEAN SHIT
Mentzer won THE PREJUDGING, SMOOTH AT NIGHT SHOW, 79 & 80 OLYMPIA BOYER COE COE PEAKED
My question is , how the heck does one get smooth for the night show ? Did he eat a pizza, or drink Gatorade ?
Zane was bigger,,,harder,,,and more ripped than anyone on that stage,,,,,had he not injured himself the following year,,,,he may very well have defeated Arnold for his fourth Olympia title!!!
Today's bodybuilders have no calves compared to the greats of the golden era.
Mentzer pigged out after the prejudging and not only looked soft but his gut was bulging out. He blew it. Zane was a worthy winner. Dickerson should have been higher. Robinson was also holding too much water.
No this was still under 200 winner and over 200 winner. Frank Zane under 200 pounds winner and Mike Mentzer over 200 pound winner.
Great channel 👍
Its not Metzer, but MENTZER!!
@08:04 Boyer Coe and Danny Padilla. That is essentially how you do the required "relaxed side" pose. These clowns today have gone along with its perversion you see today.
You should do 1980 and 1981, the two stolen Olympias.
There were talks that Zane only won because Lou Ferrigno couldn't compete due to the Hulk series.
Thanks for uploading 🏋️♂️
What an era ... Beckles ,Padilla,Platz,Callender ,Dickerson , Mentzner , Tinnerino Greatest Weider champions
Robbie is the GOAT
The golden era...
HOW THE FUCK ZANE EVER WON AN OLYMPIA I'LL NEVER FUCKING KNOW...SWIMMERS BODY
wow ...mentzer the first guy with a full gut
Yes, Arnold taunted him about that.
He had some stomach bloat and/ or let his stomach relax but was able to do a vacuum so he did not have the GH/ Insulin gut of today.
Mentzner won
I was there Zane was the winner.
Yes
I was a fan of yours also Mr. Bucci. Thanks for commenting.
Moveto BitChute Thank you I appreciate that
Joe you had a great physique ..great arms ..I remember you were on the cover of weider magazine in the 80s...the first one I purchased..saw your pic and decided to buy the mag and it inspired me to train
@@damonamess1476 Yeah, Joe was great back in the day. I've got an old iron Man magazine, and there is a pic of Joe in a most muscular and his chest is the most striated I've ever seen, and his biceps look like baseballs!! I'm now 60 and still remember that pic!!
79+80 should have been mentzers.Zane looked amazing,but Mike just out muscled him and had the condition.
no condition in the pic at 16:00....too much pizza in Mike's gut
Why are there never any videos of the olympias after 1975 up to 1980, what was the deal
Zane pissed off arnold after contest were arnold asked zane how does it feel to win this years mr olyimpia zane responded ""better than when i beat you in 1967" arnold got him back to convince zane to enter the 1980 mr olympia though zane injured himself and down 10lbs compared to 79
Zane had a disciplined and polished physique.
Mentzer had a pot belly plus he was psycotic
Zane was extremely skinny and look like a swimmer. The guy had terrible genetics for bodybuilding. There's women bodybuilders that are bigger than he is
Shame that the IFBB lost the caliber of these great judges.
Mike Mentzers stomacge got huge at night and hid posing just died. He kept rushing through his poses and looking very nervously at Frank Zane the whole time of the posedown. This made him look unsure and confused, something one does not do onstage.
Nice video
Psssst... Could you please tell the narrator to pronounce the name correctly... His name is Mike MeNtzer... Not Mike MeTzer... There's an N in there.. Lol.
Pause the video at 13:07. Look at Frank Zane's - on the far right - shoulder width compared to his hips!! Geez!! His hips are tiny, and his back has more mass and depth than Robby's!!
I was watching the World's Strongest Man competition when Franco destroyed his knee, and I almost threw up on the spot. Do yourself a solid and don't watch it.
Man up !
I did myself a solid, then I flushed it!
OK, but did you watch it?
@@rpc717
Yes, many years ago.
The judges gave Mike a perfect score of 300 points ( just like the year before in Acapulco), whilst Frank got 296 points ( if I recall right) in their respective weight classes...Now, to reiterate: Mike was perfect in the eyes of the judges...Frank was close, but not quite...So, where is it logical that Zane could beat Mentzer in the end?!.How could anybody explain that??!...Well, Nubret knew it ahead of the finals, and that says something!!!..Maybe the rumors are true: Zane was the winner, because the panel was mostly Jewish, the Weiders were Jewish and Zane is Jewish too (whilst Mike was of German descent)..Who knows?!
What you are forgetting is Mike got his pert 300 in the heavyweight division ONLY! He scored 300 against a very weak heavyweight class. Look at him against Zane and you see Zane is sharper than Mike and has 0 weak points while Mike was perfect against the heavyweights he was not as sharp, striated and couldn’t pose or present as well as Zane. Mike was much better in 1980 and should have been in the top 2 finishers ahead of Arnold and Dickerson.
It was a fair contest because Arnold was not inn!
You do know that the name is " MeN(!)tzer2, and not " Metzer"?!?!?!
Zane!
It was already the era of mass. Arnold, serge, olivia, franco, lou robby, and others. ,ane was just better. Mike did have a big gut in photo toward end.
Mentzer should have won this contest.
What did Frank Zane weigh in this contest? Many of the comments made didn't convey anything. the prejudging comment about Mentzer was particularly telling. Weider was a terrible person and I'm sure that the change in judging was directed by him. The growing abuse of drugs by bodybuilders was a direct result of the contest environment promoted and allowed by Weider. His only concern was making more money and controlling the contestants. Look at all the premature deaths of bodybuilders who competed in Weider contests. Disgusting!
I've seen articles stating Zane was 195 at the 1979 Mr. Olympia (10 pounds more than in 78). Most of the competitors in the 79 Olympia are still around today, even Albert Beckles. So drug abuse in bodybuilding was not life threatening until later years (especially the Haney, Dorian, Ronnie eras). Among the contestants at this show, only Mentzer died at a young age (I guess one could argue also Dennis Tinerino who passed at age 64). I'm not sure if Mentzer abused drugs more than the other bodybuilders in the late 1970s, or if his drug abuse that contributed to his untimely death was in later years. The drug abuse problem in bodybuilding in general was really accelerated by body building moving to the mass monster era (starting in 1984). Lee Labrada not winning in 1990 was absolutely criminal.
Danny Padilla : number 1 (Menzer: big gutt, narrow shoulders : winer!
Danny Padilla wasn't even a forerunner in this contest. He got 5th in the under 200 class. Mentzer's shoulders were better than Zane's. He also got a perfect 300 score in the prejudging. Mike did not complain with this contest
Mike looked great at 15:32 but looks horrible in the pic at 16:00 letting his gut go like that, suck it in man, can't even believe its the same guy!
When they stand side-by-side, Mentzer looks like he just had a box of pasta ... so bloated! Zane was way better
Idk wtf mike did wrong.
do u know that Mentzer has a N in it ?
Arnold lost in 1979!
U truat wieders writers? Lol
wasnt just about how they looked bro,they had do have charm and get the crowd going also posing was an art back then, thats why Arnold was able to beat Sergio,sergio was relaxing between poses let his stomach hang and so on.
Sergio Oliva s the nr of all times if you only judge body wise.
Robby Robinson, Roy Calender, Tom Platz, and Mike Mentzer, should have easily beaten Frank Zane in 1979, not to mention the previous two years.
Mentzer deserved the win. Zane really only deserved to win in 1977. Robby beat him in 1978
Mike was robbed.He is real winner!
Mentzer made a big mistake, He did not believe in training the abs like the rest of the body! Big mistake in this contest! He would had won if he had! Thanks for the video.
mentzer had a gut
No nothing can't pronounce Mike's last name correctly.
Mentzer could never win a Olympia. Never.
Should of won in 80, fella
Bullcrap
Zane more Better than Mentzer
Sorry Mike, no way.
Really? Zane was super skinny! There are women bodybuilders that are bigger than he is!
MIKE TRANS GENDER
Arnold "Rapist" Schwarzenegger
Zane, Boyer, Mentzer, that was my score card top three. Zane had brought with him the "complete package." Zane couldn't have gotten bigger only because he was a small body frame # 1 and # 2 he would have lost his famous symmetry and proportions. In my opinion Zane should have won a total of 6 Mr. O's not withstanding 1980, 1981 if he not sat out and 1982. 1983 was, again, in my opinion the start of mass when Haney showed up.