Retire Into Sailing! Get Experience, Buy a Boat, GO SAILING! Ep 250 - Lady K Sailing
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This week we talk about how to enjoy your retirement on a sailboat. How you might get experiencing on a sailboat by crewing in sailboat races, or crewing on a cruising sailboat. How you might come to buy your own sailboat and we look at an excellent Beneteau 461 cruising sailboat already outfitted and reayd to sail the Caribbean!
Sailing? The most expensive, slowest, and difficult way to see the world. Wouldnt have it any other way. Been sailing for 40+ years.
Another basically retired newbie who just found your channel. I grew up sailing small craft in Wisconsin, but I've got the bug to move onto a boat and see more ocean. Great content in these videos!
I crew on a Wednesday night club racer and learn something just about every time out. Seems like most captains are looking for reliable crew and don't mind teaching new folks
Tim, with regard to crewing for people to relocate their boat and gain experience. Ask the owner and captain a LOT of questions!!! Ask about their back up plans, their approach to decision making, and most importantly, what their limits are for go/no-go options or course diversions. It's difficult as a newbie, who, possibly is in competition with other candidates to speak up or challenge a long-time sailor about these things. If you don't, or more importantly if you ignore potential signs of questionable judgment, it can kill you as it almost did myself and three others 100 miles SSE of Long Island in 2022. We were completing a transport from St Thomas when the owner/captain chose to sail us through a gale with winds gusting to 60 knots. The 40 ft boat capsized, and we had to be rescued by the Coast Guard. Also, several posts in well-known crew seeking sites are little more than Tinder with a sailboat. Some great experiences can be had, but also some shall we say, sub optimal outcomes are out there as well. Thanks for the videos!
I just helped a dock mate move his boat from Solomons, MD to Vero Beach, Florida. It was a great experience, we sailed to Norfolk, then took the ICW from Norfolk to Beaufort, NC. Then an offshore hop to Charleston, SC followed by offshore to Ft. Pierce, FL. I live aboard my 1984 Nordic 44, and plan to make the trip south next fall. I am ASA 101, 103/4 certified, and willing to help crew for others if they need it!
I have no sailing background at all, but during the covid lock down I started following a bunch of liveaboard youtubers and was hooked
I was shucking a pile of UA-cam oysters and found a pearl...Lady K Sailing!
Thanks for watching!
Back in the 80s, got the sailing urge and read every book that I could find on sailing, bought a 16 foot day sailer and made every mistake known to man. Mistakes became less and less. Several boats later I am now well retired and still dreaming of the Bahamas. Hoping that I can still carry on this fine hobby for a few more years. Love your channel. Keep it going.
@lady_ksailingpeddle ye scams further into the triangle ya bottom feeder
Thank you for addressing the issue of how to get started. This has been super helpful in making my plans for my retirement future 👍👍👍
@lady_ksailingchicken dinner
Another option is to join a Sailing School. One exists like Buffalo Sailing, in Buffalo, NY. Maybe others exist. We got to take ASA courses and had access to sailboats to sail between lessons. We went from a “sunfish owner to Hunter 33”. The system works. We now sail on Lake Ontario from Sodus Bay Yacht Club.
Can confirm that crewing on a race boat is fantastic experience and fun. Over night races are amazing. Learned so much more than the ASA classes taught. Do it!!
Edit: The party after the race is almost as fun as the race!! So many good quality people! Thought sportsmanship was dead until I went racing on a sailboat!
Just like Rugby!
TWO COFFEE CUPS AND A PILLOW?!? I’m sold!!
Crew Finder is the only way, and the best way to get started. Of course if the exists to take a RYA/ASA certs class, then better still. In 1 year you can get 3 or 4 (Boat) experiences on the water. This is just enough to get the fever or leave it along. Please remember a bad/Not good experience on someone else boat is still a learning experience.
I bought a boat, motored it out in the middle of the lake, turned the motor off and then figured out how to make it move with the sails. That was a 24 foot boat with a keel and almost standing head room. I had grown up with my parents in an 18 foot canoe with a sailing rig and daggerboards, and my uncle sailed around the world with his Valiant 40. I had spent a windless afternoon on his boat once and he hadn’t started his trip yet when I bought my boat. My brother did crew for him for a week going down the ICW.
I don’t recommend buying too large of a first boat. There was a guy at my marina who was really Mr. Sailing, but his boat was more than 40 feet with a full keel and a bowsprit and it turned out he was too terrified to back it out of his slip. I think the only time it left the dock was when someone came and took him sailing. I really liked that my first boat had a fin keel, a large rudder and an outboard motor, so it could turn inside its own length. My second boat had an infernal diesel engine and was a whole new learning curve, but the roller furling was a game changer in comfort and convenience.
Now I am retired and thinking about another boat, but I like smaller cheaper and easy to handle boats. Anything you break on a 45 foot boat is going to cost twice as much as a 35 foot.
How did you know this is exactly the kind of video i needed?
tapped ur phone ;)
@@LadyKSailing 😂 that's hilarious😂
This year I sailed on a brand new catamaran through Asia and across the Pacific The deal was they'd pay for my flight one way, all the food on board and I just had to be crew. I chipped in a bit more; for me that's just part of the fun. It was hard, I loved it, can't wait to do it again. And now that I've got so much blue water experience, I'll have a good chance at the next delivery crew. A year ago I paid a few grand to sail through the Bahamas for three weeks and back to Florida. We seemed to just visit bars, but I was on an amazing boat with good sailors in the Bahamas! (Sailing for me is like I'm 7 years old, it's my birthday and that thing in the wrapping paper is a bicycle. Giddy.) Whenever I've been on a chartered boat, there was always something seriously wrong. Total drag. Hey we've upgraded you to the Fontaine Pajot.... the steering doesn't work but you won't be able to figure that out until you've left port..... Other people's boats? Always in terrific condition and they know how everything works. Best way to learn.
Tim, I'll check out your east coast Facebook, but I'm on the West Coast and my boat is on the West Coast.... So any Lady K Patreons in the Southern California area or can get there I've got a Hunter Passage 456 . Be happy to take you out for a day sail to Anacapa Island and around it, or anchor overnight at another island. Looking for any excuse to go out sailing.
hey tim
i just wanted to say thank you for all your time and effort you have put into all your videos
i really have learned so much and yes,,,i have definitly cought the sailing bug
great job....
hopefully i will see you out there one day
a loyal watcher
Ditto. Well said sir, couldn’t agree more.
Thank youuuuu 🙏
If you like Sailing history then watch around cape horn 1929. I'm ex British Merchant Navy and American merchant Marine, this video blew my mind ! Well worth a watch and of a by gone era. It's on you tube.
This video was just what I needed. Thanks !
Hi, I worked in the Virgin Islands for a couple of years and learned to sail from 2 friends that were locals and always wanted to have a sailboat and still do. money's funny you know how that is. that's how I learned to sail, other than watching UA-cam channels. They called the UA-cam sailor lol. Thanks for listening
Love it!
Thank you!
I leaned to sail in college, which had a required sailing program. I disagree 100% about racing. Joining a yacht club is expensive and around here you need to know the right people to get required referrals. In my experience delivery crewing almost always involves a schedule. That may mean a lot of motoring or making hops in pretty crummy conditions.
Thank you for a great video!
Thanks, just what I’ve been wondering about!!
Hi from TO. I always enjoy your videos. Thank you.
We love you too great video and very informative too
Great video! thank you.
Thanks for your wonderful insight. I do enjoy your channel.
The question gnawing at the back of my mind every time I'm inland, luckily not right now. Tim's advice is spot on: it's fun learning the ropes & meeting lots of new people. I can't really crew atm as I can't commit to decent stretches, but it's a near-term goal. So I'm just "mucking around in boats" for now. Thanks as always, from a thunderous evening on Chevron Isl, Qld.⚓
Great video, thank you
Great show!
Hi!
And congrats on 250th episode... 🎉
I’ve been asking these questions for quite a while…THANK YOU…already joined both groups.
We bought our boat after ASA 101 and 103. But zero experience….we live in Hawaii and just started sailing! We sail 12 months a year here!
Thank you
Great information!
thumbs up for the throwback picture of your childhood sailing, sir!!
Happy 250
THANKS!
As always a very informative and motivational video. Thanks! I've got the problem the other away around. Owning an older 24 footer I often look for a hand. Preferring to get out in over 15 knots and without any furling system I do need a mate sometimes. With a long keel its a nice to have in the marina, too. And yes I do take my passengers into account and go out with newbies only in a light breeze). I'm living at the Baltic between Germany and Denmark. There are a few clubs here but I actually didn't find one with an active community to get out sailing together (there are two but they take racing to serious for my boat and money). Most boats in marinas and clubs are owned by people living somewhere else and spending there holidays cruising. We have a telegram group for sailing but every time I tried, the people answering where just unreliable ("I have a hangover" "I forgot something and don't have time" or just plain ghosting) and I never got once out sailing with someone from this group...
So for becoming sailors: Be reliable! There is someone putting a lot of money and time in a boat and is willing to teach you? Than don't waste their time.
For me: Is this crewfinding thing also usable for day and weekend sailing? Does anyone know if there is a facebook group for my area (starting in Flensburg Fjord)? I didn't have a facebook account for 10 years or so but I didn't had a youtube one for a long time either and than came Tim with his good videos and his "please suscribe and comment" ;-) So if its worth it I will try.
Aways Excellent Video! 50yrs sailing experience bought my retirement Sailboat 3yrs algo (Hunter 290 OO) Life has been a beach since then instead of stress..
Thanks for the advice Tim! I recently retired and have been devouring sailing channels. I will definitely check out the crew route!
Man how timely!! I have been asking these questions for a while for when I retire in 5-7 yrs, as it turns out will be retiring this year, and I am now looking for a way to pull the trigger earlier!
That's me!!!! I've been watching your channel (and a few other well known sailing UA-cam channels) and plan to sail away when retired. So much good advice here (as always). Thank you so much 😊
Another super good video and good advice for someone looking to crew
Sorry I did not enter any contest but if you are giving me a sailing adventure on your boat please send me your address and contact phone number and IO'll contact you . Ha ha I also see that everyone was a winner??
Probably the funniest videos of Lady K I have watched. Great info and the sarcasm kept me chuckling 😁😁😁
This vid is what I needed
@lady_ksailing Oh man, what did I win? I no doubt want to do some learning.
Started sailing last year by taking ASA101 with my son who was a pre-teen at the time. We completed it + started chartering boats 1-2 times a month, moving progressively bigger each time. Bought our Baba 30 this year + started a refit while still sailing. Figured everything out as we went, on sailing as well as repairs. Never was able to crew as races other than kids on sunfish aren’t common in the area.
Glad I found you.
That's me! Appreciate the video. And I do hate Facebook 😆
Only ever did two races on someone else’s boat.
Did an ASA 101 sail class
Bought a cal 227 , sailed it on a small lake for a year.
Sold everything bought a 40 jeanneau ds.
Did the 103 and 104 on the new boat.
Sailed to oriental from Southport with the previous owner
Did a refit and sailed to Florida then to dry tortegas. Then to Bimini and the abacos
Had a friend sail with us to Bahamas. Went north back to NC then sailed down with another friend to Florida.
I’m semi retired and wife is retired. I would say a retired couple really need a sugar scoop for getting in and out of a dingy and in and out of the water.
We have now clocked of 5000 nautical miles and about to head south again with a group of other boats
This year we will be buddy boating south with other friends boats.
The sailing part is not the hard part it’s the knowing when to go and which way to go. So weather, tides and local features like sand bars.
My wife does Facebook , I hate it. Too much drama and I don’t particularly like cruising forum either , lots of garden chair , gin palace sailors or some down right rude people.
love your teachings bloke keep em coming!
Glad you like them!
Cheers.
Love your channel, mate! Single-income family and can't afford to 'pay in' as - you know - have so many monthly outgoings, but great content! Got an old English Contessa sailboat, modest and just about affordable. Approaching retirement with dreams of coast hopping from where I am based in the south uk to France/west coast France/ Spain/ Portugal etc etc and hopefully the Med later. Thanks for your work and invaluable info you give to to 'ordinary' boat folk!
We have a sailing center. The pickup races on Sundays are fun. The J24 racing I encountered a lot condescending attitudes and they weren't willing to teach, so I quit. I guess that's a part of sailing. I have encountered a few a-holes. Most people are nice.
Thanks for the link to the crew site. I've been asking around to see if anyone needed extra crew for next year racing season. This will help in the journey of getting more experience.
Tim is absolutely correct. I am (again) a valued crew member on an IC-24 (trimmer/foredeck) for Wednesday night racing at Oklahoma City Boat Club. The cost for the is experience is FREE (not all clubs may allow this). Simply be reliable and show up willing to learn. I got may start crewing this boat from 2007 thru 2011 then took off to get my pilot's license. Now I am back on the same boat with the same skipper and we were winning until the season ended. Additionally, I bought a club member's Catalina 22. Now I am getting experience as a racing skipper on the Sunday series races. My nephew is my crew. He is OJT, on the job training... Thanks for all the cruising boat information. I really hope i can cut all ties and get out there some day. Cheers!
Crew finder worked for me. I leave in 10 days for South America.!!
I’m gonna cruise the Caribbean. Thanks, Tim.
I agree with your overall premise
Great boat.
Retire to the hardest handyman job possible.
🤣
😂
Cushions ... 2 coffee cups ... great overview.
Keep on keeping on - nice work & hi & thanks.
I cant believe the topic of this video, it is like you read my mind.
This was a perfect vid for me the plan is to sail the great. Lakes here in Ontario and take my pension and head down to the Caribbean
Love the comments about learning to sail on a race boat. While not for everyone the details of sailing are at
the max. Anchoring not so much 🤪
I have had boat buyers learn so much by the cruising crew moment and obviously the horror story.
Nice episode
Your sarcasm about the boat is subtle but hysterical
Tim! You told us to say hi so HI!
What do you know and where can you get advice for sailing for disabled people? "Disabled" of course, means a world of different things from people who are just a little wobbly, to folks in wheelchairs, blind folks and people in the deaf community. Having sailed a lot when I was younger, I miss it a lot and would hope there are opportunities for folk to get sailing who are enthusiastic, but not "able-bodied.' Thanks.
CRAB organization in Annapolis
Great idea! We are doing our first bareboat charter this Spring and then your crewfinder page sounds great. Ever look at Wauquiez or other deck saloon types? Good or bad for Caribbean cruise?
Retire… to a constant project. Something is always broken/ needs maintenance. It takes several hours to get to a grocery store, do laundry, go out to dinner other than overpriced waterfront dining. Very difficult living, that channels sell you on beaches and sun. Wait til reality sets in!
I did a 3 day cruise to the Bahamas and that was enough retirement cruising to to last my whole life !
I've got the sailing experience, I'm refitting my boat & I'm almost ready to retire, hopefully, late this year!? 😊⛵👍 The 'Whitsundays', will be the perfect place to move to & live on my boat in my retirement. 👍
Mate your Beneteau mocking was bloody hilarious 😄
Keep up the top shelf Vids 👍
Lady K. Help and assist. It’s approaching time for me to go. Sailing is my exit strategy and I might not be available to crew within a yacht club. I know the work needs to happen; however, time fleets. Thank you, JM
BTW, I’m 5 years out. Living in Huntington Beach.
Thank you!
coool ty
The hardest part is figuring out exactly what to take, and what to do. I’ll make a post on your new page about my experience.
Hey Tim, love the channel and Historsea!
Suggestion for a video. Inflatable sailing dinghy for when at anchor and still want to keep sailing, or a hobby on the local lake. I have my eye on a Minicat 320, but would love to hear your thoughts.
We bought our first boat site unseen with no experience and learned how to sail from the people we met on our dock. It’s been an amazing experience with our two golden retrievers. Shun the nonbelievers because there will be many.
Hi!
Thanks for understanding that many of us don’t want to have Facebook
The intro hits home for me.
I've been sailing my whole life, but just recently (at 50y/o) got my ASA cert. I'm not so interested in racing, so it's hard to get acquainted with cruisers. Thanks for this episode!
We did some boat charters where you share the boat with other people and a pro skipper, not cheap but you get on a boat with like minded people and meet cruisers in the ports
This was in the Mediterranean by the way
Just want to give my 2 cents how i got started sailing. I have been totally hooked on the sailing videos UA-camrs put out. I have met a couple of some well known ones. I am 63 by the way. Last year i signed up for ASA 101, 103 and 104 in Narragansett Bay. The 104 was canceled because the school could not find an instructor. I loved the classes and we sailed a 30 ft Pearson. I highly recommend taking these courses. They give you the knowledge and confidence to get started. I became friends with a guy in the classes. We both had the same level of wanting to sail. We started going out looking at boats. We looked at probably 10 boats before we found what we wanted. We learned a lot just looking at boats then sitting and chatting with the owners. We decided we liked a 1981 Catalina 30. Nice and roomy, good reputation then not so small we would outgrow it and not too big to handle. It was on stands so we never saw it in the water. We replaced a stuffing box for a dripless shaft seal and put on a new stainless steel mixing elbow. Our maiden voyage came on a rainy day. We had to go 40 mi from Jamestown, RI to Mattapoisett, Ma. First time sailing without an instructor and first time using Navionics. Took us 11 hrs because we had to motor sail 30 mi. Got to Buzzards Bay and sailed the remaining 10 mi. Got to the mooring just as it was getting dark. We loved that adventure! We sailed almost every weekend of the season. A boat partner is a good way to go. It has its challenges where you have to compromise but you always have someone to sail with and learn. I also want to take off sailing when i retire.
This is literally the only thing that could get me to log into Facebook.
As someone with no skills who is considering buying a 32-38' cabin cruiser (I live inland so this will be river and Great Loop travel when I retire) this gives me a few ideas. There are some marinas down on the Ohio River I can check out.
32' - 38' is a lot of footage with no prior experience. Definitely see if there's any small boat racing clubs in your area!
@@CodeSquares Unfortunately there is not a lot out there at a shorter length with A) The required headroom, and B) A bathroom with a shower. Even the shower is optional as a wet head is acceptable if it is one without all the nooks and crannies I see around many of the vac-flush toilet systems.
I will accept suggestions for any cabin cruisers that would be suitable. Right now the best option seems to be a Carver Mariner (mid 80s to 2000-ish). Not too expensive in case I have an "oops".
@@Bigrignohio I bought a Nordic 44 sailboat for my first boat. You are going to learn how to handle a boat, and the learning curve is steep. Ideally, you would learn on a small boat and work your way up, but don't fret if you want to buy your last boat first! You can do it, it is going to be a learning experience with a 24 ft boat, or a 44 ft boat!
@@gymcoachdon I mean, I would HOPE a powered boat would be a little better on the learning curve. And honestly if I was going to get anything over 38' I would immediately get bow/stern thrusters installed. Basically I want to experience liveaboard locally. On the Ohio River. That way I can make a better decision on how or if I want to retire on a boat (sail or powered). Figure if I can survive a few winters on the Ohio then I can survive anywhere :)
@@BigrignohioI would guess that they pull boats out of the water for winter there even if the river moves enough to not freeze, everything inside the boat would freeze.
I lived on my boat twice and both times when December came I got an apartment. The key is to always keep the air moving. Fiberglass has no insulation so you would want to add some foam or something to insulate. Otherwise you will be sleeping on a wet mattress from condensation on the walls and under the mattress and sometimes dripping from above. One of my friends had a radiator that didn’t circulate air and he was miserable with mold and mildew. I had a space heater and a vented diesel heater and a dehumidifier and I took showers in the marina instead of the boat. A portable propane heater will fog up all the windows in minutes which is why you want a vented one.
Also the marina usually shuts off the water when it will be below freezing, so you need to keep your water warm enough to not freeze, or drain it until it gets warmer
I have known how to sail Sunfish and small Hobies all my life. And I always thought that someday, I would like to live aboard a sailboat.
From a very young age, I've been involved in motorsports of all types. It is very natural to me to think that "if you want to get really good at something, compete." When I retired from motocross and offroad racing about 2012, I joined the crew of a J/105 on a local lake.
Today, I have more than 500 race starts, mostly windward-leeward, but with some good offshore miles. I've sailed in two J/105 North Americans. Twice the Newport to Bermuda, once on a J/42 and once on a J/105. Twice, Chicago-Mac on J/105 each time.
I just got off the Harvest Moon Regatta last weekend. That was a practice race our Pacific Cup crew for next July. (San Fran to Hawaii)
I am in mid 50s now. I feel pretty prepared to own an ocean crossing sailboat. The countdown is getting short.
wow Sailor,
🙂 I have to laugh, being an older guy, I hate social media. UA-cam is about the only thing I can stand, and I can barely stand that, but you've given a few work arounds that is a good idea. Let's face it, these days we don't trust the internet and we hate being badgered.
i bought a catalina 22 and also started racing. Eventually i want to graduate to a larger boat. but i know i need a lot more experience.
Just a Texas desert dweller which never misses an episode dreaming of a sailors life that will probably never be, but living vicariously through all you lucky bastards who have the option of doing so.
Always great information. I haven’t looked at all of your past videos. I had an interesting question or thought for a video. What are the large downturns to sailing as one get older? You have been sailing for a while already and what things have you noticed or have talked with other sailers that become less appealing as you get older in regards to maintenance, sailing, cautions to plan for.
I know just bobbing up and down in the Caribbean is going to be a pleasure but what do you see as alignments that make sailing less appealing and what are good work arounds for the older population of sailers.
I’m thinking of heavy seas and the different items to health to keep the soreness down as one ages.
Did you produce this episode just for me? I just returned Saturday from a week on the water chartered a boat an got my ASA 101 N 104 certification🎉
salty dogs also has a lot of crew options…. good knowledge and rallies as well.
You are right about Facebook due to privacy concerns and violations plus selling our data to advertisers so I will never join. Although I am grateful for your crewfinder site and will definitely join that 🙏Ty for that
Joined FB under a different name and joined your group.
Would love to see a video that talks about the market and if your seeing boat prices return to normal
Long ago when I lived in California latitude 38 was great for crew finding. I don't know if they still are. I live in Florida now and there's no crew finders here that I'm aware of.
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Hi Tim, thanks for the info! I will check out your FB group... Any advice for sailing/learning while on vacation down south over the winter?
As someone who's son has just become an adult and who's daughter is turning 18 next Feb, and is looking at getting a boat and heading out with the family to explore this beautiful blue ball we call earth, this video and your others btw, have been very helpful.
One thing I felt that could of been touched on, is there a good professional sailing school for someone like me to learn all the important stuff needed like navigation or basic laws of the sea? The idea of the racing team seems like a fantastic one as well.
What would your thoughts be on "hiring" a captain, to take the boat out and instruct us on how to use the boat that I end up purchasing, how long would something like that take to get the hang of?
Thoughts on a Hunter 460 3 cabin for general cruising in the Caribbean and maybe an occasional run to Hawaii or the Med, or would I need a 'proper' bluewater boat for something like that?
hi.