All of these expensive sag mechanic tools, but yet you still set the sag wrong!!!! 😂 lmaooooo you need to be wearing all of your gear or your sag is completely incorrect. You can weigh like 15lbs heavier with everything on if not more. You should make another video correctly showing this…
@@emillykkegaard4947considering tech 10 weigh roughly around 9 pounds and a bell moto 10 helmet weighs around 2.5 pounds he’s not far off, not saying you wear those but that’s what i wear and roughly i weigh around 13 pounds heavier with everything on, he’s honestly not far off honestly
@@rykercarlson2131 I have tech 10’s, bell moto 9 flex, knee guard/ braces, chest protector, neck brace, it makes a large difference. More than you realize.
That's BS. First you set race sag, then you check static sag and choose the correct shock spring. Static sag should be between 30-40mm. If it's lower than 30mm your spring is too soft, if it's over 40mm your spring is too firm. Static sag is the outcome of race sag and the spring and only indicates if your shock is sprung for your weight.
@@AndyHack10It could be how you said but, it makes more sense you have that backwards. If the static sag is less than 30 then the spring is too stiff thus holding up the bike below 30mm static sag and a softer rated spring would give you more static sag?
@@Wasatch_Sasquatch It's how i said it. I know it sounds wrong, but that's the way it is. If your spring is too soft for your weight, it takes more turns to get it up to for example 103mm race sag. Once your weight is off the bike the spring is preloaded even more and pushes the ear end up. There are articles on the internet about that. But don't worry about 95% are doing it wrong!
@@AndyHack10 sounds like you have some wires crossed. In what universe does removing load from a system *increase* preload. Load comes off, preload goes down. That’s what pre load is… pre-load… on the spring. The lock rings set the maximum length of the spring, exerting a constant minimum force. Any bumps or downward accelerations, compressions before a jump lip etc increase downward force, creating a correspondingly larger upward restoring force from the spring. Physics 101: Statics F = - k x F is the reactive force of the spring wanting to return to its relaxed state (-) is that the reactive force of the spring is acting in opposition to the force compressing it (in this case a compression spring) K is the spring constant relating to spring wire diameter, spring pitch, and number of turns in the spring, aka the spring characteristic for linear springs And X is the distance the spring has been displaced or compressed, in this case, from its initial position or length. Together the terms K and X describe the force required to displace the spring, and once again the (-) is because in simple spring systems such as this, omitting damping as that is a dynamic mode characteristic and sag is a static consideration, equal and opposite reaction rule applies. But you say removing compressive load on the spring *increases* the preload when it’s just the bike in isolation? Tell me more 👁👄👁 Lots of people write articles on the internet, not all of those people are as smart as they think they are, and the further off the beaten path of first principles science and into the weeds of, for example, the average Motorsport technician, the more muddled the understanding on concepts become as people who think they understand turn around and preach. I’m not claiming to know the way to set sag as handed down from on high but I know how a spring works.
Hilarious how some take issue with drilling a 1/8” hole in the plastic. It’s a fkin dirt bike you princesses 😂😂😂 Same guys who buy new plastics/graphics if they even get scratched I guess 🤦♂️
Right!?! I RIDE my bike! Mechanically I’ll fix anything broken immediately… but It’s got all kinds of scratches on the plastic, and still rides like a beast! Lol
@@thatsallfolks3115so that the suspension preload is set correctly for rider weight. Too little preload and you will have too much suspension movement for a given weight resulting in bottoming. Too much and you will not have eboigh suspension movement causing harsh uncompliant ride qualities. Both conditions also cause issues with handling as the suspension is not working in the nost effective portion of its range creating issues with turning, under and oversteer, inability to stay in a rut etc.
@@theladdiesda8190 thanks buddy, I do very light trail riding and me and my son have only been riding for a couple years and I never knew about the sag.
I cut a slit with a blade i can and use a spirit level with a bolt to alide into the axle perfectly with a built in tape measure works a bloody treat and didnt cost me a thing
Except for KTMs your measurement should somewhat follow the arc of the rear wheel when the shock compresses. In this video it's not even vertical, but tilts backwards 😅
@@ddh2557 I would, no whole correspond to be there (could even happen to be a rebuild, somebody spending money in new parts)... Second, it's not a only-way method the one he takes, furthermore, others, avoid the damage he makes, and the lack of precision by the time of results. So clearly,if you don't see it you don't have the most minimum clue, you don't see Pastrana's fenders wholed up, and those guys, excel for the milimeter (performance-wise), with much better method and result in all senses. Do your homework first, then, come to get involved if you (by minimums) at least so you know what you're talking about. I'm not here to "fight" with you or be better than you, but if I need to mention the obvious, then straight away, I realize it's not worth even saying so, straight up. What point are you trying to make in here pal?
@@ddh2557 and yes I would, regardless the size, if you're eye cannot detect wholes in flat surfaces, you've got more problems than your job quality requirements, yeah?
@@manuelmorenolavado698 you would only notice the hole if you were examining the bike up close. Nobody from the stands is going to see that tiny ass hole. It doesn't matter if you can get quicker/better results, I already stated what point I was trying to make, he's doing it correctly.
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To set the sag on a dirt bike is to measure the distance it drops/travels when someone gets on it and it matters a lot for racing and how the bike feels/rides
You’re joking right? At no point during the decision to drill holes in the fender, did anyone think, maybe we can just wrap it around the whole fender and use a stick on literally anything to secure it from sliding? Maybe just use some type of soft jaw clamp? Or literally any clamp with a rag stuffed in the jaw? This does seem cool but if I bring my bike in for a shock adjustment and it comes back with a hole drilled in the fender then I’d be pissed. (If the customer knew beforehand and agreed then that’s totally fine but there’s still less intrusive ways to use the exact same tool) (also, yes I understand that tiny hole isn’t going to effect anything whatsoever, idc what type of motorized vehicle it is either, drilling a hole in a body panel/fender is ugly and pointless unless you’re permanently putting something there)
There is NO EXPLANATION ! here just a dopey vid of a guy doing some things...a new rider has no idea what you are doing here...did this occur to you ???
All of these expensive sag mechanic tools, but yet you still set the sag wrong!!!! 😂 lmaooooo you need to be wearing all of your gear or your sag is completely incorrect. You can weigh like 15lbs heavier with everything on if not more. You should make another video correctly showing this…
Il fait du cross bitume 😂😂😂😂😂
Why tf would you wear 15 lbs
Of gear
@@rykercarlson2131bro goes to war on his dirtbike 💀
@@emillykkegaard4947considering tech 10 weigh roughly around 9 pounds and a bell moto 10 helmet weighs around 2.5 pounds he’s not far off, not saying you wear those but that’s what i wear and roughly i weigh around 13 pounds heavier with everything on, he’s honestly not far off honestly
@@rykercarlson2131 I have tech 10’s, bell moto 9 flex, knee guard/ braces, chest protector, neck brace, it makes a large difference. More than you realize.
You have to set static sag first, Then you check race sag with full gear and adjust accordingly with the right Spring for the riders weight.
That's BS. First you set race sag, then you check static sag and choose the correct shock spring. Static sag should be between 30-40mm. If it's lower than 30mm your spring is too soft, if it's over 40mm your spring is too firm. Static sag is the outcome of race sag and the spring and only indicates if your shock is sprung for your weight.
@@AndyHack10It could be how you said but, it makes more sense you have that backwards. If the static sag is less than 30 then the spring is too stiff thus holding up the bike below 30mm static sag and a softer rated spring would give you more static sag?
@@Wasatch_Sasquatch It's how i said it. I know it sounds wrong, but that's the way it is. If your spring is too soft for your weight, it takes more turns to get it up to for example 103mm race sag. Once your weight is off the bike the spring is preloaded even more and pushes the ear end up. There are articles on the internet about that. But don't worry about 95% are doing it wrong!
@@AndyHack10 sounds like you have some wires crossed. In what universe does removing load from a system *increase* preload. Load comes off, preload goes down. That’s what pre load is… pre-load… on the spring.
The lock rings set the maximum length of the spring, exerting a constant minimum force. Any bumps or downward accelerations, compressions before a jump lip etc increase downward force, creating a correspondingly larger upward restoring force from the spring.
Physics 101: Statics
F = - k x
F is the reactive force of the spring wanting to return to its relaxed state
(-) is that the reactive force of the spring is acting in opposition to the force compressing it (in this case a compression spring)
K is the spring constant relating to spring wire diameter, spring pitch, and number of turns in the spring, aka the spring characteristic for linear springs
And X is the distance the spring has been displaced or compressed, in this case, from its initial position or length.
Together the terms K and X describe the force required to displace the spring, and once again the (-) is because in simple spring systems such as this, omitting damping as that is a dynamic mode characteristic and sag is a static consideration, equal and opposite reaction rule applies.
But you say removing compressive load on the spring *increases* the preload when it’s just the bike in isolation?
Tell me more 👁👄👁
Lots of people write articles on the internet, not all of those people are as smart as they think they are, and the further off the beaten path of first principles science and into the weeds of, for example, the average Motorsport technician, the more muddled the understanding on concepts become as people who think they understand turn around and preach.
I’m not claiming to know the way to set sag as handed down from on high but I know how a spring works.
Welp I weigh 307 n my kx 250 rides like a dream with me n my girl on it n she’s 210 problem solved guys stop the back n forth 😂😂
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Nothing a sticker can’t fix
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Not good..new fender time, $50 dollar hole.😂
would this work without drilling the rear plastics by using a binder clip?
Yes if you put it in the same place everytime. You're just adjusting the height or spa e between two points. ALWAYS to and from the same place
I would just make the hole, I have one in my bike and you don’t ever really notice it
Weight reduction 😂
Sharpie dot.
The sag tool does come with stick on tabs with a hook as well.
Hilarious how some take issue with drilling a 1/8” hole in the plastic. It’s a fkin dirt bike you princesses 😂😂😂
Same guys who buy new plastics/graphics if they even get scratched I guess 🤦♂️
Right!?! I RIDE my bike! Mechanically I’ll fix anything broken immediately… but It’s got all kinds of scratches on the plastic, and still rides like a beast! Lol
30 thousand dollar race bike and you drill a hole in the fender to set the sag ?? I’d be pissed if you did that to my dual sport. 😂😂😂😂😂.
Bro knows what he was doing with that drill😭🙏
That’s what you’re meant to do. It cleans the whole up.😂😂😂
Lol you would be the 1 to know 😂😂😂
Я думал что только у нас припопощи молотка,отвёртки и какой то матери с матом их крутят 😂
Según tengo entendido esto se hace con el piloto con todo su equipo de protección como si estaría en pista🤷🏻♂️
I love a fresh pair of dunlops
That’s a great video, Except!
You only get the correct numbers if you’re fully geared up. Water, tool and etc.
I was just about to say it: shouldn't he be wearing all his gear? Especially the heavy stuff like boots and helmet.
Unless his aim was 105 and he offset based on his experience of gear weight
What’s the purpose of this?
@@thatsallfolks3115so that the suspension preload is set correctly for rider weight.
Too little preload and you will have too much suspension movement for a given weight resulting in bottoming.
Too much and you will not have eboigh suspension movement causing harsh uncompliant ride qualities.
Both conditions also cause issues with handling as the suspension is not working in the nost effective portion of its range creating issues with turning, under and oversteer, inability to stay in a rut etc.
@@theladdiesda8190 thanks buddy, I do very light trail riding and me and my son have only been riding for a couple years and I never knew about the sag.
Even as a suspension shop owner I still love these video's From good ol Uncle Jay. 🦾🔨🪛💨
Glad you like them! Thanks for the support.
Me parece contradictorio regular con precisión milimetrica para terminar dándole golpes de martillo para ajustar...
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I don’t need the expensive tools my boy the bike tells you everything. Everything
Or do what we've been doing for generations now, use a tape measure
The guy doesn't have the full gears on him. What's your opinion?
He is a heavier guy maybe he just mechanic rider is smaller guy my guess
Nvm I see him test at end smaller guy no gear
Judging by where he sits on the bike this guy obviously isn’t to fast so I don’t think the extra 5 lbs of gears is gonna do much
I cut a slit with a blade i can and use a spirit level with a bolt to alide into the axle perfectly with a built in tape measure works a bloody treat and didnt cost me a thing
Jays vid are the best !
Did you have to make a hole? There are different ways to attach a hook without damaging the hopper.
Except for KTMs your measurement should somewhat follow the arc of the rear wheel when the shock compresses. In this video it's not even vertical, but tilts backwards 😅
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If you drill my fender and set it wrongly as you did...man, youd be having a serious problem today
Yup
You probably wouldn't even notice that tiny hole in your fender. Also he set it correctly so idk what you're on about 😂
@@ddh2557 I would, no whole correspond to be there (could even happen to be a rebuild, somebody spending money in new parts)...
Second, it's not a only-way method the one he takes, furthermore, others, avoid the damage he makes, and the lack of precision by the time of results.
So clearly,if you don't see it you don't have the most minimum clue, you don't see Pastrana's fenders wholed up, and those guys, excel for the milimeter (performance-wise), with much better method and result in all senses.
Do your homework first, then, come to get involved if you (by minimums) at least so you know what you're talking about. I'm not here to "fight" with you or be better than you, but if I need to mention the obvious, then straight away, I realize it's not worth even saying so, straight up.
What point are you trying to make in here pal?
@@ddh2557 and yes I would, regardless the size, if you're eye cannot detect wholes in flat surfaces, you've got more problems than your job quality requirements, yeah?
@@manuelmorenolavado698 you would only notice the hole if you were examining the bike up close. Nobody from the stands is going to see that tiny ass hole. It doesn't matter if you can get quicker/better results, I already stated what point I was trying to make, he's doing it correctly.
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A traditional sag scale is just as easy.
A traditional tape measure is just as easy.
Wow so beautiful Kross 💛❤
When you’ve lied on every résumé, but somehow still made it
It's easy when you know how
Perfect 👏👏
Did you just learn how to clap 👏 or maybe you just got a dose of it. Go swimming make friends with a seal 🦭hang out clap 👏 but be careful 🦈 ..
Now repeat after me
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Wow😮😮😮
When a tape measure is just to hard 😂
that isn’t what he’s measuring
Hey some tapes have 32 lines on em. Thats a lot of notches to count! Lol
Could of used a 3m hook drilling a hole into a new flare 😮
lol I do the same with my full suspension e bike. I loosen it all the way right before it loose enough for the washer to fall off.
Можно было и двухсторонним скотчем 3м воспользоваться
Can someone explain what Is to sag a dirt bike please?? Thx
To set the sag on a dirt bike is to measure the distance it drops/travels when someone gets on it and it matters a lot for racing and how the bike feels/rides
was that drilling really necessary?
You’re joking right? At no point during the decision to drill holes in the fender, did anyone think, maybe we can just wrap it around the whole fender and use a stick on literally anything to secure it from sliding? Maybe just use some type of soft jaw clamp? Or literally any clamp with a rag stuffed in the jaw? This does seem cool but if I bring my bike in for a shock adjustment and it comes back with a hole drilled in the fender then I’d be pissed. (If the customer knew beforehand and agreed then that’s totally fine but there’s still less intrusive ways to use the exact same tool) (also, yes I understand that tiny hole isn’t going to effect anything whatsoever, idc what type of motorized vehicle it is either, drilling a hole in a body panel/fender is ugly and pointless unless you’re permanently putting something there)
Gotta love rear pre load adjustment 😭
Never get the bike off of the stand with the rear plastique, there is deformation
Is necessary drill your bike for this??
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Precisava furar a carenagem da moto? 😂
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Im new to durt bike what exactly are they trying to achieve??
Just like how I adjusted mine
What’s the purpose of sagging a bike?
What’s the benefits in doing this ?
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Sir
What exactly was the reason for marking the nut?
Ternyata ga di indo aja main Betel, di asalnya sana juga sama 😂
😊 yah wali bike mere ko bhi chahie ek
Atope el canelo que disfrute verlo en acción
Hell no u ain’t drilling any holes in my fenders
Name,of,bike
I’m 105kg or 231 pounds, What’s best position for me? (Yzf450)
Best positions for you- it is position number 69 with you brother 🎉
Honestly i just adjust it by feel and how the bike handles
I'm not drilling a hole in my mud gaurd. Give a blap what it's for.
Rate of dirt bike 🏍️
TY!!
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Зачем было сверлить???
Now, do it with gear on.
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Valla bizde ya en yukarıda ya en aşağıda 😂😂
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Now redo this with full gear on 😏
I’ll just stick to eyeballing it
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Да уж, чтобы понять удобно тебе или нет, нужно динамометр подключать
Pickin the ass end of the bike by the end of the fender 🤔
Thats the place to grab…
calling this portion of a bike a fender 🤔
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Класс
Price kitna hai
They forgot about that
Use a sharpie and a tape measure. Wipes right of like it was never even there
Что то на богатом
मला पाह जे ही गाडी
You don't need to drill a hole in your guard, or need that fancy (expensive) computerised bullshit to set sag or ride height.
2 раза пересмотрел и один хер низвезды не понял)))
There is NO EXPLANATION ! here just a dopey vid of a guy doing some things...a new rider has no idea what you are doing here...did this occur to you ???
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Anstatt es einfach mit nem tape zu befestigen🫡
E so ter braço que tudo se ajeita a você
Still dont understand
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Y no se pudo hacer con un imán?
barbarians, that's why you made a hole
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