The Lord of The Rings (2003) | First Time Watching | Movie Commentary Part 1
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I'm glad you recognized how brilliant John Noble's performance was as Denethor. A lot of reactors just hate on the character without recognizing the craft that evoked those feelings!
The movies don't explain well, but Denethor has been driven mad with despair by Sauron through one of the seeing stones similar to Pippin when he stole it from Gandalf.
Mithrandir is an elven nickname that was given to Gandalf when he was Gandalf the Grey. It means "grey wanderer." The soldiers of Gondor are calling Gandalf by this elven nickname. In a way it both shows respect and familiarity.
It is the same actually as "Gandalf", which is "grey pilgrim" in Old Norse.
Also everyone in Gondor speaks Grey-elvish.
Mith significa gris-plateado. Se ve este elemento en "mithril" tambien.
@@samswords9993 Yes, that is correct.
@@Colindo I thought Gandalf meant "staff-elf" in old norse, at least i believe that is the direct translation?
@@TheKrislaf I think you’re right, basically. “Wand Elf.”
The hair doesn’t have to look perfect. The fact that you put this much effort into it makes the fandom super happy. Also it’s appropriate seeing how you get jealous on behalf of Arwen 😂
This scene 13:40 was hilarious because of her mood towards Eowen
During the intro I agreed that the top braids did look nice but felt bad for thinking that the full hairstyle made her look like a male elf. Once Legolas showed up I realised why
10:43 Oh, boy, Legolas is *definitely* familiar with alcohol. It's actually a plot point in The Hobbit book that the Elven King of Mirkwood (Legolas's father) imports a particular wine from the land of Dorwinion that is much more potent than ordinary booze. The King's steward and captain of the guard decide to sample it and it's so strong that it puts them to sleep. So... Legolas's level of alcohol tolerance is really not surprising at all!
Yeah, he was playing Gimli at his own game!
The easy thing to miss about Éowyn wanting to go to war with the rest of the Riders is that in doing so she is leaving the remaining Rohirrim (the civilians) essentially leaderless. With both Théoden the King and Éomer his heir riding to war, who is left to rule? Who would lead the Rohirrim should the two of them fall in battle? Éowyn.
It's made much more explicit in the books that her obsession with achieving glory in battle was partly due to the poisonous words of Wormtongue. There are many, many more ways to find honor than dying in battle, but by this point Éowyn didn't see them anymore. She fell victim to despair.
Her reasons to ride with the Rohirim were rather selfish for sure. She clearly had to learn that for the rulers it is not about what they want but what the people need. But since she is being appointed Theoden's successor, maybe it is good she made her name on the battle field at least once. Her becoming a respected and experienced leader might help her prevent wars in the future. It does not seem like she enjoyed fighting enough to make it her occupation.
@@PrimeCircuit No. In the books is made very clear. A good leader for security is NOT a warrior, but a healer. Aragorn is recognised not for his deeds in battle but because he went in disguise to heal the wounded after the battle. "The hands of a king are the hands of a healer."
She needed not to fight. That is why I love SO much Eowyn and Faramir's characters. In them is the essence of Tolkien's philosofy of war.
@@LadyOndyne What I meant is that seeing the actual horror of the battle (which she wanted to claim as a "right to fight" rather than the duty it is for the men), served as a deterrent to rid her of that notion of glory in battle. I like Eomer's stance on this, the province of men it is not because they want it, but because they have the responsibility to defend. He does not enjoy it, he is merely good at it. Eowyn defied her King's orders, thought caring for those left behind was beneath her and was frustrated for herself, while she did not care how young boys were put on the frontline against their will. She went in because she wanted to make a name for herself and I certainly hope she came out sobered.
Little side note: In "The Two Towers" Gollum calls his Smagol side "Murderer"...and now you know why - Gollum did not exist when Smeagol murdered his friend (and cousin) Deagol - he arose later on, after Smeagol was exiled.
'I give Hope to men. I keep none for myself." -- the mother of Aragorn. One of his names is Hope.
"Hola Legi, hola Viggo"
Gimli: e hola
I think, unfair though it might seem to her. That Aragorn sees her more as a kid, due to their vast age difference. Also, he didn't touch her. He literally tucked her in like a kid, and soothed her fear when she woke up from a bad dream.
But I do understand this was all done to keep romance driven ppl like you on their toes ;D
I loved John Noble's performance as Denethor, I'm glad you recognized that too
You asked why sometimes they call Gandalf "Mithrandir." Gandalf is what northern Men call him, but Elves call him Mithrandir, which means the Grey Pilgrim or Grey Wanderer in Sindarin, one of the Elvish languages. Men of Numenor, such as Aragorn, and the Men of Gondor, often speak Sindarin or even Quenya, the "Elvish Latin," because of their millennia-long association with the Elves.
When Elrond delivers the sword, you can see Aragorn's last doubts about his inheritance. But the sentence in elvish is a quote from Aragorn's mother. I think this sentence was the last spark to convince Aragorn. Here is the background knowledge from the books: Aragorn was raised in Rivendell, as all Chieftains of the Dunedain, the line of the kings of Arthedain and the last descendants of Isildur, were, ever since the end of the North Kingdom of Arnor. His given name was Estel, which means "hope" in Quenya. It was said that his mother, Gilraen, knew some of his destiny, as she had the gift of foresight. When Elrond revealed his true name and lineage to him, Aragorn was to set out into the world to fight Sauron's evil for many decades. When he came to bid farewell to his mother, her last words to him were the same words they spoke now :
Onen i-estel Edain. U-chebin estel anim.
"I give hope (Estel, her son) to men. I keep none for myself."
4:05 "Give us"
I don't think Smeagol had developed the Gollum personality at that point in time, also there are dialects in British English that sometimes use 'us' instead of 'me'.
"Give us a hand", "Do us a favour".
I'm really enjoying watching your reactions to LOTR trilogy 🙂
Andy Serkis is a real multi talent. Not even did they use his likeness for Gollum, his animations are made by Andy himself via Motion Capturing.
Tolkien was a devout Christian and many of the themes in this story reflect that -- resurrection, repentance and salvation, sacrifice, a hidden king returning. He was influential in the conversion of CS Lewis and the two of them were members of a writers group called The Inklings that met in an Oxford pub, The Eagle and the Child, that is still there. You can sit at their table and have a pint since you are no so far away. They would read passages from LOTR and Narnia to each other.
Arwens people can kind of peer through time. So when she saw her son and their eyes met, they were actually looking at each other through time and he was kind of like just beckoning her not to go. And stay with aragorn.
The beacon scene could be inspired by the real life usage of these beacons by the English, which they used on the south coast of England to warn the coming of the Spanish Armada. When they were spotted, these beacons were lit along the coast, and those in charge were warned that the Armada had come.
I love how ROTK starts with Gollum's backstory, because it shows what's at stake for Frodo. For Middle Earth, we know that if the ring is not destroyed, the lands will be conquered, evil wins, apocalypse so on and so forth. But for Frodo, his personal fear is becoming Gollum. So witnessing Smeagol becoming Gollum is to see Frodo's fear of what he might become, that's why he keeps wanting to believe Smeagol/Gollum is good.
That Andy Serkis gets to show his actual face is a bonus. I think he's playing Alfred in the new Batman movie, right? That and the new Jim Gordon are the two things I look forward to.
"Is he dead? Is he dead? Aragorn looks so good in red...". Brutal.🤣
Oh no you had a Roose Bolton moment hahaha
"Aragorn and Arwen send their regards"
Gandalf meeting up with the riders is one of my favorite shots in all cinema
Sparing Gollum's life out of pity was never about Gollum but about Bilbo. Smeagol killed his best friend to get the Ring, Bilbo spared a stranger who was a threat. Therefor it was easier for Bilbo to hand it over to Frodo, even though he never forgot.
Siiiiiii, haha it's finally here, so excited! Poor you, for having to edit these several times. I hope you can still enjoy them with us!
SETTRA DOES NOT SERVE.
I'm so sorry you had to go through so much to get your reaction videos posted. Thank you so very much for going to all the effort! I look forward to watching them!
Theoden is one of the characters who has the most character development after pippin :)
Yes, Narsil was Elendil's sword, which Isildur his son took after Sauron broke it, and kept as an heirloom after the battle.
I always thought that instead of having Aragorn use an ordinary Ranger sword for most of the trilogy, Peter Jackson should have let Aragorn use Orcrist, the goblin cleaver, the sword of Thorin, until he gets Narsil, reforged as Anduril at the end. It's not like Thorin needed it.
27:05 Gandalf is VERY old and has been around for quite some time (we're talking several thousand years) so he's known by many names:
-He's known as Gandalf by the NorthMen of Middle Earth (meaning "elf with a staff")
- Mithrandir is the name used by the Elves and the Men of Gondor (meaning "The Grey Pilgrim")
-Tharkûn is the name used by the Dwarves (meaning "Staffed Man")
- Incánus is the name used by the Men of the South (meaning unknown)
-Olórin is the name he used in his youth in Valinòr, the mithical land where the Maia and Vala resides, where the elves go back to when they leave middle earth (meaning "the one who suggest dreams" or "The Dreamer")
Nice I didn't know about Tharkûn and Incánus.
U forget that in the east, he never goes to the east.
Don't see much trivia yet, so I'll go: at 29:18 when Pippin starts to sing, that is an actual song from the books, but it had no melody. So the actor of Pippin, Billy Boyd, created the melody and has co-writing credit for the song.
Oh, and technically Arwen and Aragorn are VERY long distance cousins. Lord Elrond's brother (Elros) is forefather of the Dunedain, of which Aragorn is a descendant. That is why he is able to live to 200 in the books.
Considering how much you love Scotland, maybe you would want to watch Braveheart next?
Actor Andy Serkis was Gollum. He was the face model for conceptual art, modeled for the computer character, and did location and model capture performances. Oh, yeah, he also did the voices, mouth movements of which were used in animating Gollum's mouth. Best. Leo.
He is also Caesar in the new planet of the apes movies. A truly underrated actor imho
"The city of Kings?" Many different kings over many generations. Best. Leo.
Minas Tirith wasn't shot in any real life location! It was all done with miniatures and artificial setpieces, with people and stuff added with CGI. But I'm sure that the folks at WETA Workshop appreciate how realistic you considered their work. :)
I seen some interview saying that Le-Mont-Saint-Michel in France inspired the composition of the city
Dato curioso: cuando Saruman es acuchillado el director Peter Jackson queria que gritara de dolor, como en cualquier peli ,a lo que el actor Christopher Lee (veterano de la segunda guerra) lo corrigio en el set y le dijo que cuando alguien es acuchillado por la espalda hace ese sonido (el que quedo en la peli) porque se les va el aire y ni pueden gritar.
M encantan tus subtítulos!
"No la cagués"
"Please, stop it!"
Lol
Qué genial que tu generación esté apreciando semejante triunfo de la cinematografía.
vale muchísimo la pena.
Me encantan tus reacciones!
The dead army who swore allegiance to isildur, at the stone of erech but when the time came when Gondor needed more people in the second age and everyone was dying they fled isildur banished them into the darkness of the dimholt mountain as per their punishment
26:14 Agreed! John Noble (Denethor) is one of my fellow Australians to feature in this trilogy, along with Hugo Weaving (Elrond), Miranda Otto (Éowyn), David Wenham (Faramir) and Cate Blanchett (Galadriel).
“I’m gonna cry if Eowyn ends up with Aragorn.”
Oh, we have it on good authority you’ll cry regardless 😂
Yes. This was...not the best movie to have worn makeup to watch.
Arwen is 1/4 human. She chose to give up her afterlife in the undying lands so she can share the mortal fate of Aragorn. She gave up her elven grace to save Frodo at Weathertop. With no supernatural force behind her, her fate is tied to Middle Earth. If things are saved, she can live out her *very* long life but die a mortal death in peace, like any human.
at 27:00 you ask why are they calling him "Mithrandir". Gandalf is wandering the middle earth and guiding people. Helping them against Sauron. So communities call him many names. Like "Olórin, Mithrandir, Incánus, Tharkûn, Greyhame, Old Greybeard, The Grey Pilgrim, Stormcrow, White Rider, Láthspell, Gandalf the Wandering Wizard".
Some backstory about Denethor and how he became the man we see in the films:
His beloved wife, Finduilas, died young. Quotes from the Appendices:
"After [Finduilas'] death Denethor became more grim and silent than before, and would sit long alone in his tower deep in thought, foreseeing that the assault of Mordor would come in his time. It was afterwards believed that needing knowledge, but being proud, and trusting in his own strength of will, he dared to look in the palantír of the White Tower."
"In this way Denethor gained his great knowledge of things that passed in his realm, and far beyond his borders, at which men marvelled; but he bought the knowledge dearly, being aged before his time by his contest with the will of Sauron. Thus pride increased in Denethor together with despair, until he saw in all the deeds of that time only a single combat between the Lord of the White Tower and the Lord of the Barad-dûr, and mistrusted all others who resisted Sauron, unless they served himself alone."
So Denethor actually "wrestled with Sauron in thought" night after night over the course of many years. You see in the film how even Aragorn is hardly able to use the Seeing Stone for a few seconds. Denethor sadly was manipulated by Sauron into seeing only things that made the situation seem hopeless. Sauron seeded a narrative of despair in Denethor, and when Boromir died, and the Ring had been forfeited, his hopelessness was complete and his mind broke. Denethor is indeed a "noble man" as Boromir first describes him which makes his fall even more tragic.
Commenting because i want her to see this.
12:54 Frodo knows what happening to himself, and knows he end up like Smeagal, and doesn't like how Sam treats him. he wants Sam to try understand that it wasn't Smeagals fault.
I...love watching these first reactions. It brings me back to when I first watched...even though, when the movies came out, I, my parents, and the siblings old enough to go (most of my siblings were way too young for this in theaters), could pretty much quote the books word-for-word, so there were really no spoilers for us. We knew all the plot points. We just all wanted to make sure they got them right in the movie!
10:20 "ahh it's a drinking game!" *grabs cup* "Im in!" 😄 just don't try to out drink Legolas 🤣
i love this movie so much! Ahh some scenes here are different in the books but it's still amazing! I love Eowyn so much
Pilar, you pronounced Isildur's perfectly.
In the book Frodo never lost faith in Sam, I see why they did it for the movie but still.......
Frodo necesita creer que Smeagol puede salvarse, porque eso le da esperanza de que puede cumplir su misión y no rendirse ante el poder de Sauron. Cada vez que Sam le dice que Gollum es pura maldad y no tiene salvación, Frodo entra en negación, y es por eso que prefiere alejar a Sam. :(
Frodo no sirve para nada ,todo lo hizo sam
@@jordancalderon5025 1: No. Bueno, en las películas, casi.
2: No viene al caso lo que dices con mi comentario.
Judging from MIranda's (Eowyn) comments about VIggo in the special features, those goo-goo eyes she was making at Aragorn might not have been entirely acted ;-)
Hi there! I really like the passion with wich you watch these films! :)
Because you said you were interested in the lore I will try to add something:
The true tragedy of Arwen's decision lies in the different natures of Humankind and Elves. The latter are bound to the world Ea, the plain which contains Middle Earth. When they die or get weary of the world they travel to the Halls of the Dead with the (kind of) gods, but the spirits of humans leave the world, and the Elves and maybe even said gods don't know where they go. So Arwen staying and choosing mortality means that even after her death she won't see her father ever again, which of course is a devastating thought for Elrond.
Lmao I really enjoy how hard you went in the "Leave Aragorn alone, Eowyn" direction these last two movies.
Mithrandir is a Sindarin (elf language) phrase meaning Grey Pilgrim or Wanderer
Pippin's Song moved me to tears when I first heard it.
Sounds to me like you actually pronounced Isildur literally perfectly lol.
Yeah, I thought so too
@@pilarslittlestudio Oh yes, in fact I've always thought a Spanish accent lends itself really well to Tolkien's elvish languages.
13:33 I have to make a separate post about this scene. I remember watching the Extended Editions with my younger sister, when this scene came up she suddenly laughed. I asked her why, and with a grin she said "Do you know why this is in the fantasy genre? Its not the magic, its not the monsters or the big battles. Its the fact that after a party, a gal can just sleep out in the open in a building full of drunk men and nothing bad happens to her!"
Obviously this was in the innocent days before 'Game of Thrones' became popular, hah!
At last our friend has returned
I've watched dozens of LOTR reactions, and yours are among the best. Thank you for watching them! I loved taking this journey with you! 😁
been so excited for this:))) thank you pilar! and i hope you enjoyed the trilogy! 💗
You'll have to read the book if you don't want Saruman to die yet! I was glad we at least got to see the scouring of the Shire (very briefly) in Galadriel's mirror...
Nunca antes había esperado una video reacción con tanta emoción.
Looking like a fair elf maiden up in here
Legolas si conoce el alcohol, de hecho en el hobbit cuando bilbo planea la huida de Mirkwood (de donde es Legolas) aprovecha que los elfos estan ebrios (se tomaron un monton de vino) para robarles las llaves y liberar a los enanos :D
Red colour is the symbol of courage
A mucha gente le sucede; el no sentir simpatía por el Rey Théoden en _Las Dos Torres,_ pero sí en _El Retorno del Rey._
Mithrandir es el nombre élfico de Gandalf, así le conocen en Gondor.
“I have no idea what I said here”
Boy... is that relatable.
Funfact:
Tolkien actually planned at some point that Aragorn ends up with eowyn ...
I don't think he did. Did he write about it in his letters?
@@Tom_McMurtry honestly I don't know. It was obviously changed... I guess because of tinuviel and beren. It's been a while I read some of the background stories :)
Mithrandir significa peregrino gris y es como lo llamaban en Gondor. Lo único que te voy a decir es que aunque veas que en la película el rey brujo rompe la vara de Gandalf, en el libro el único que podría vencerle era Sauron. Lo incluyeron en la peli solo para darle más drama.
amén hermano
Mithrandir es como lo llamaban los elfos Gandalf es el nombre que le dan entre los hombres, lee sobre los Istari en esta pelicula solo salen dos de los cinco, Saruman el Blanco que era el de mayor rango y Gandalf el Gris que ya aquí paso a ser Blanco cuando revivió.
Pilar you are so perceptive! I've seen no other reactor at the start of this film (and I've watched dozens) pick that it's Gollum before Deagol refers to Smeagol by name.
Mithrandir is a nickname the Elves gave Gandalf, it means Grey Pilgrim.
mithrandir is gandalf's name in sindarin (elven language).. it means "grey wanderer/pilgrim"
Las he disfrutado como si las viese casi por primera vez! Adorables tus reacciones 🙌🏻🙌🏻
Smeagol and Deagol were related. Cousins, I believe. They were an offshoot of Hobbits called Stoors who lived near the Gladden Fields. Best. Leo.
Not so much offshoots as the forefathers of the Stoors.
All 3 parts at once? Wow is it Feliz Navidad already?
So happy.
Movies like this and times like those really make me miss the old days, I'm glad you get to see that masterpiece.
honestly yours have been the best lotr reactions that I have watched
Finally here!!! All 3 parts at once? You're amazing and I think your hair looks really cute! Can't wait to see how you like the last one :)
Thanks for the video. I enjoyed it.
Lol at 3:06 "Rated 12 for drug use, foul language"
Even though there's neither of those things
13:55 Esa mi amiga la tóxica 😆
cuando Theoden Rey de Rohan, dice: porque ayuda a aquellos que no nos ayudaron?- el tiene razon, gondor en parte de la guerra de los ayudaron y por eso no queria ayudarlos, pero despues el Theoden como buen rey que es los ayudo y si tenian que morir ayudando lo harian. si queres saber mas lee los libros
22:09 Que gracia me hace cuando se asusta viendo al Nazgul o su bestia Alada jajajajajajajaja 🤣
Le llaman Mithrandir porque es como le llaman los elfos, significa "el peregrino gris"
Gandalf has been around for many generations (500 generations he said in the movie, 2000 years according to books) and traveled quite a lot and helped people and kingdoms. They all gave him a unique name, that is why some people call him Gandalf or Mithrandir (Grey Pilgrim in elvish), etc. His real malar name is Olórin.
You sure have some funny reactions regarding Aragorn 😄 I'm happy you could solve the upload issue, can't wait to watch all 3 episodes and practice my spanish with your help (:
Tolkien's original intention was for Aragorn and Eowyn to marry. Arwen was a very late addition to the story.
8:25 empújalo dale no sé qué
Ni 20 segundos después
8:40 no por favor que alguien lo salve 😂😂😂😂😂
@@pilarslittlestudio Jajaja sí sí
Por cierto Gollum está muy infravalorado pero si no es por él el anillo nunca se hubiera destruido
The song of pippin the Best Scene
Awesome reaction as always. All us LOTR nerds love someone who's totally invested. Great job! :)
You had me waiting like for a fedex package. Thank you pilar.
Fun fact: some character are called in different names for example Gandalf is called Mithrandir by the elves
And Aragorn is called Elessar for elvish people.
I had so much fun watching my favorite story with you. I found you by accident and ended up watching all of your LOTR reaction. It is interesting seeing another react to this 'world', that's been with me almost my entire life, and for the first time, it was an amazing experience indeed. Thank you for letting me come along, it was like watching with my daughter or rather granddaughter! Good luck with your endeavors, wishing you the best in life, I had such a great time. Subscribed.
@@steve.57 thanks so much! I’m so happy you enjoyed 🫶🏻
@@pilarslittlestudio Very much so.
"Don't tell me he's gonna turn around and make an evil face" LMAO
I'm here! I'm so excited! Let's go!
what had me shooketh was the scene where frodo tells sam to go home, their parts were filmed a year apart. So amazing/
Buenas Pilar!! Llaman Mithrandir a Gandalf porque tiene varios nombres segun la cultura que hay en la tierra media, los elfos le llaman mithrandir que es peregrino gris si no me equivoco, los hombres es gandalf y las demas culturas tambien le conocen por distintos nombres. Disfrute tu reaccion!!! Gracias por compartir tu experiencia con la comunidad LOTR❤️
I recommend reacting to the Hobbit trilogy next! It might not be as good as these movies but it’s still really engaging with its characters
And you look fantastic!
Thanks for working so hard to get this video up!
Por fin la espera llegó a su fin y puedo disfrutar estas reacciones tan esperadas este mes!!! Gracias por tenernos paciencia y tomarte el trabajo de una nueva edición para esta tercer película!!!
Siiiiii!!! I was waiting for it :))
Great all around and music