"We Are Ready To Join ASEAN": José Ramos-Horta, Timor-Leste President | In Conversation
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- Опубліковано 21 гру 2022
- Timor-Leste is a small nation of just 1.3 million people. In its territorial waters lies an untapped gas field worth billions of dollars that bigger countries like China and Australia have their eye on. Recently, Timor-Leste signed four economic deals with Beijing, a move that worries Canberra. A tough choice for Timor-Leste? How has the country progressed since its independence just 20 years ago? And will joining ASEAN really benefit their population? Their President, José Ramos-Horta, tells Lin Xue Ling in In Conversation.
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as Indonesian, I don't understand why they didn't join Oceania and choose ASEAN instead. isn't they are the one who curse or hate ASEAN being backward countries or so during their independence ?
they also said that they want to become like Singapore getting their independence from Malaysia but for Oceania.
ironic when Singapore itself reject TL admission into Asean aside Vietnam and Myanmar.sound fishy,right
They just want money from ASEAN development fund. But, they didn't bring anything to the table. No natural resources, no strategic location, no trade routes, no nothing. So why would ASEAN accept TL? From the beginning, they smugly thinking more like Oceania allies with Australia and others. Ramos horta himself is corrupt just like others. Now they got ignored by Australia and got nowhere to beg.
Just like your ex, running away with another guy she thinks is better financially, only to have the oil and gas robbed blind. Now, she's regretting it.
My thoughts exactly! They should align themselves with their master, Australia, who "supported" their independence in order to extract their petroleum.
They already Happy with 10 members. Small groups much better to focus and communicate. Another additional 1 members can cause disruptive. As we saw just in the past 2 years.
No one, even ASEAN countries belive that Timor-Leste could be free and Independent, but today we are a young and vibrant democratic country, and I'm 100% sure that Timor-Leste will thrive and prosper. It will take time, but you'll see it...!
I wouldn't be so sure about that.
The Philippines have always been though.
No one???? .... 😂😂😂 To all ASEAN COUNTRIES 🇵🇭 Philippines always support Timor Leste even in the worst situations ( like Indonesian ARMY killing christian people)
A vibrant democratic country that were seriously plagued with lack of political regeneration and unwillingess to not repeat the same mistake commited by its neighbours. If i were you i would not say your country is a 'vibrant' democratic country.
@@SABONGPhilippines07 What is this phobia, its christians killing christians. You do know the supporter for timorese integration were catholics in Indonesia (the catholic church, especially its influential member pater beek), even more so Soeharto regime which are supported by catholics as they were the most anti-communists. Like sofyan wanamdi student groups that help in toppling Soekarno. Protestant christian were more supporter of Soekarno, or muslim groups which are oppressed under Soeharto.
Benny moerdani, Maraden panggabean, Dading Kalbuadi all important generals were christian (mostly catholic). Not to mention golkar political party were graduates of Kanisius school, Santamaria network of Pater beek. Soldiers were most often local according to military district, catholics from West Timor. The reasoning of why catholics and the church and even rightwing East Timorese supported Indonesia was so they don't fall to the left wing communist FRETILIN which put timor leste under civil war. As I said Pater Beek was an extreme anti-communist as most catholics in Indonesia were.
my biggest fear this tiny country will become big burden for member of the asean because the disparity such as economic issues with other member of asean
It will
1 no natural resource
2. Small population
3. Small or even non existence tourism
4. What export or economy does TL good at?
@@deidresable ouch 😂
Its greece in NATO, but ASEAN
They just want money from ASEAN development fund. But, they didn't bring anything to the table. Oil reserve is getting low, No natural resources, no industries, no trade routes, no nothing. So why would ASEAN accept TL? From the beginning, they smugly thinking more like Oceania allies with Australia and others. Ramos horta himself is corrupt just like others. Now they got ignored by Australia and got nowhere to beg.
Just like your ex, running away with another man, who she thought was better financially, only to have the oil and gas robbed blind. Now, she's regretting it and looking for another chump.
@@deidresableOil. Plus, building a tourism industry isn’t hard with the right govt incentives (infrastructure). My only worry is it will become a corrupt authocracy like brunei, but the leader doesn’t seems to worry with democracy
The other countries will said NO ❌ 🤷
As a person living in Timor-Leste for almost 5 years. I can say that their government is ready. Yes, there are always a room for improvement but what country does not need one? All country has a room for improvement and it is a never ending battle. There are always a bad fruit in the government but we just need to side the good ones for all things in this world always has a Yin and Yang. 🇵🇭
Time is running out, they don't have much time left for improvement since their leaders were seriously lagging far behind compared with its ever-changing pace of its neighbours.
Di masyadong maganda ang ekonomiya nila lalo na ngayon eh nauubusan na sila ng langis. Puede pero huwag muna ngayon sumali ahora mismo kasi lugi tayo
Nah, your government just want some part of the ASEAN fund. Your country has nothing to offer to ASEAN. Now go ask Australia who were your "best friend" From the beginning
Australian need your oil 🤣
Tanks
No Way. ❌ Not too soon.
But ASEAN is not yet ready for TL.
What can TL offer to the group?
TL merdeka yg menikmati berputar2 pada elite2 ini saja. Kasihan rakyatnya saja
kasian juga rayat mu disana. lebi lebi kamu.😂
South East Asia? Not Oceania any more?
Why would someone want to build factory to Timor Leste?
1. Timor Leste have small population, small domestic market
2. Timor Leste have few natural resources, such as minerals, water , oil , coal , food , arable land, etc
3.If the factory designed for export
It's location is very very far away
Very far from Sydney & Canberra
Very far from Java
Ramos Horta, in an interview with CNN, 1999:
"For generations, East Timorese will not want to hear anything about Indonesia. And joining ASEAN is very far [down] my list of priorities."
7:51 Do you believe it? We admitted that he's true the best politician and diplomatic but for me I'm not sure whether he will be able to bring the next 5 year for better living of people of TL in spite of his vast experience if we see what he has done to Alfredo Alves Reinado.
We FILIPINOS giving you our 100% support vamos viva timor leste viva filipinas
In 2003 He said Timor Leste is not part of Southeast Asian, ASEAN, Timor Leste is part of Oceanian. 🤷 Wt
Hoping for the best for our Timorese neighbors
3:02 - Timor-Leste has zero loans from China
4:04 - Timor-Leste only has economic deals with China, no need Defense deals
4:37 - Timor-Leste has a responsibility towards its neighboring countries
6:34 - Tolerant country
14:14 - Nation-building process in Timor-Leste
20:52 - Timor-Leste is an investor
Investor?? Yea right, an investor but yet it seriously did not able to build its own country to the point where NTT now easily stand above TL mainly on living standards.
Not sure as an investor
I hope Timor Leste on all points.. but investor? That's not true.
Preett...
Saya berharap Timur Leste bisa menjadi member di ASEAN, Mungkin Akan Banyak Rintangan yang Akan Dihadapi Timur Leste Kedepannya Tapi Setidaknya Rintangan Tersebut Bisa Membuat Timur Leste Menjadi Lebih Kuat/Kreatif dalam Memecahkan Masalah yang akan Dihadapi Kedepannya.
Dan Saya Ingin Meminta Maaf Jika Ada Masyarakat Timur Leste, karena saya membaca komentar dari pihak Indonesia ada beberapa yang kurang baik dan tidak untuk ditiru. Terimakasih
I am happy Timor Leste 🇹🇱 is progressing ....... greetings from Indonesia 🇮🇩
Bukti Generasi timor leste masih tertinggal. Pemimpin negara di 2023 saja masih mengandalkan generasi tua 2002. Semoga generasi muda Timor bisa bangkit
Anggapannya gini aja sih. Kita Indonesia merdeka 1945, tapi soekarno masih jadi presiden ampe 1965/1966. 20 tahun setelah merdeka masih dia presiden nya, timor leste juga kurleb 20 tahunan merdeka. Jadi sama ae sih. Mereka masih negara muda jadi wajar
@@andreasnagamas6292 contoh yang buruk sejarah kita tuh. Jangan dibuat sebagai bahan benchmark.
@@andreasnagamas6292 jangan samain sama soekarno coy. Itu jaman perang belanda dan perang Dunia. Ukuran TL cuma seiprit dibanding soekarno yang mesti ngurus negara luas. Plus pemberontakan sana sini. Soekarno lagi siapkan ahmad yani sebelumnya
@@lucky889s9 ya bisa lah disamai. Toh mereka juga habis perang sama Indonesia (aneksasi/perang kemerdekaan mereka), dan mereka baru merdeka ya juga butuh bangun militer mereka. Dikira di Timor Leste gak ada pemberontakan? Negara awal merdeka dari penjajahan itu sama. Sama" rentan pemberontakan. Intinya Indonesia zaman awal kemerdekaan itu memang masih mengandalkan generasi tua bukan? Seperti soekarno dll, padahal sudah 20 tahunan merdeka? Ya sama seperti Timor Leste. Karena Generasi tua itu dianggap simbol kemerdekaan mereka, simbol perjuangan mereka. Itu mindset negara" awal merdeka seperti Indonesia juga begitu dulu.
@@kayuulin5287 ya intinya sama saja. Mindset penduduk awal kemerdekaan ya gitu, menanggap founding fathers itu sebagai acuan dan simbol perjuangan
Hoping the best for Timor Leste for the next 10-20 years
Nation-building is a never-ending endeavor, the questions sound degrading and the Pres. is very patience
As a filipino, i'd like for timor-leste to join. ASEAN can bring great benefits but it may also bring problems due to costly investments, either way, if they think this will help their country, why stop them? The more the merrier. We should help each other cause we're all neighbors. Good luck to you guys :D
Don’t be naive, all they can be is just a deadweight… they don’t seek trade or mutual exchange, they want pity and donation from ASEAN… truly disgusting
Very very powerful and candid interview. Well respected leader.
I'm very Love my own Timor-Leste🇹🇱😘😘😘
Hope next 5 years,, I can see a lot improvement
Ok,.
Salah satu hal yang membuat saya bangga dengan negara saya adalah negara saya (Timor-Leste) adalah negara yang toleran (tidak ada kekerasan berbasis etnis, tidak ada kekerasan berbasis agama, tidak ada sentimen anti-Cina, anti-Barat, anti-Muslim, dan tidak ada radikalisme agama).
*masa sih? tapi kenapa negara kamu sangat miskin, fasilitas pendidikannya buruk, barang2 serba mahal?* 👈😏
@@johantan5305 Belajar sopan santun dulu dek, baru main sosmed, dengan komen kek gitu kamu merasa berkontribusi untuk negara ?, kerja cuma tidur-tiduran sok sokan ngomongin negara lain miskin.
@@johantan5305 Negara kami baru merdeka tahun 2002. Kami tidak bisa melakukan keajaiban dan melakukan semuanya dalam satu tahun, dua tahun, atau 20 tahun. Tapi kami merasa kami (bisa) berpartisipasi dalam proses membangun negara kami ini. Indonesia tidak dibangun dalam 10, 20 tahun. Eropa tidak dibangun dalam 10, 20 tahun. Ya, 40 persen rakyat kami miskin. Kami tidak bisa, seperti keajaiban, berkata, 'Tidak lagi!' Kami mengurangi. Lima puluh persen, 20 persen, 10 persen, sampai kami bisa mensejahterakan semua orang. Di negara baru, untuk mulai berkembang, kami harus memiliki infrastruktur dasar. Infrastruktur dasar yang dimaksud adalah listrik, jalan, air, telekomunikasi. Kami tidak dapat melakukan semuanya sekaligus. Selangkah demi selangkah.
Mengenai biaya hidup, memang semuanya mahal karena kami menggunakan dolar AS sebagai mata uang kami. Jadi, barang2 serba mahal di negara kami.
@@johantan5305 masa sih?tapi kenapa kamu sangat goblok
@@uiop1801 betul bos orang aneh
21 years for nothing just building images.
Not full membership yet but always try to dictate/lecture the ASEAN. 🤷
When you have lot of oil reserve, you giving money to Australia, but when you run out money, you came to ASEAN.
Dont get me wrong, i loved TL people, and work with them for several project, but we didnt believe with your government. Im agree with Singapore, TL need to fix their domestic problem first before joining ASEAN. greetings from Indonesia.
Indonesia pengen timor gabung ke asean biar beban Indonesia sbg tetangga dibagi ke negara2 asean.. negara asean lain sbnrnya menolak keras krn udah tau bakalan jadi negara beban.. 😂😂😂
TLE joining ASEAN would lower the ASEAN statistics on every parameter of progress and prosperity, as well as giving TLE people greater freedom to work and travel within ASEAN. Of course the more developed countries like MY and SG would refuse to do so. 😅
I agree that Indonesia's move to support TLE joining ASEAN is to benefit Indonesia while disadvantaging their fellow ASEAN members. 🤭
5:48 Wait, what? Violent occupation by indonesia? Seriously u guys think that indonesia all this time tried to occupied that small island? What about australia? They rob a lot of Timor Leste natural resource
They tought that australia is a saint while portugal is their saviour. They forgot to look at the mirror to realise that the hands they were loathing at is the ones that were always gave them all their daily needs to survive in this modern world.
They don't know shame. The only reason why they want to join Asean is because their oil will dry and their country will bankrupt. So they want Asean to help them in that's fxck up situation.
Well, if they can't join asean, they must be try to blame Indonesia and ask for help to Indonesia alone. So better they join asean, Indonesia will not carrying they alone.
Learn the true history of the ilegal occupation of your country first, otherwise you just comment rubbish here. Your country destroyed the civilization that Portugal has tried to establish during 450 years. Only 24 years you destroyed everything and brought in uncivilization.
Jangan denial. Timor leste dari awal juga bukan bagian dari indonesia, terus sama pak harto dianeksasi dengan kekuatan militer. Walaupun banyak diberitakan kalo pak harto banyak bikin infrastruktur, dll disana, tetap aja gak menghilangkan fakta bahwa banyak rakyat timor yang meninggal akibat rezim represifnya pak harto.
@@faiq026 terus yang minta gabung itu siapa? Kenyataannya mereka itu perang saudara dan kirim pengungsi ke Timor Barat dan mengganggu stabilitas keamanan Indonesia.
I'm happy that there country is blessed with petroleum.kudos!!!
Congratulation Timor east 🇹🇱
Mid size country Pakistan, population : 230 million people.
15:45 im sorry but this is impossible, timor just doesnt have anything to offer for foreign factory, no resource, no market with that small population, geography location is also not strategic
Oil
Salute comunication
Avo Horta
Avo Nana
Marry Alkatiry
3:00 woah let the president speak
Timor Leste should replace Myanmar if the military still defies & continues rebelling.
Why TL not joint oceania???????? 🤭
Negara termiskin di dunia menurut bank dunia,,,
What can u contribute to us?
I'm Indonesian. It's disheartening to see some of my people commenting very pessimistic and backwards things regarding East Timor. Please don't heed any of them. We caused each other pain in the past, but in the end, we're brothers. We wish you the best and we hope you'll join ASEAN in the near future. Let's grow strong together despite our differences.
it's realpolitik. ASEAN is not a school club where anyone can join, they need to bring something into the table.
@@125discipline2 that's true, but there's absolutely no reason to be pessimistic about the future and throwing insults. That's such low class behaviour.
@@rinjinnoko Those garbage can on TL are the ones who throw tons of racial insults to Indonesia eventough they would die without Indonesia's mercy. And its fully legitimate if Indonesian in kind responding back to those insults
Penjilat aussie
I'm waiting for someone to comment in Portuguese here. Is that language really used in that country, or even still using Indonesian in education and other important events?
They mainly use indonesian and they need to, because indonesia provided TL for every goods and services that they want to import
No one in lusophone countries cares about TL
Tetum is the main language in general and Indonesia is the main working language
@@ignatiusryd2031 disagree, there are still signs in Portugal calling to help TL
@@osheridan And does it has been implemented by Portugal?? Even to this date TL were heavily relies on Indonesia's grace to gave them food, fuel, investments, and even to gave TL extra leverages in regional + global diplomatic stage while Portugal to this date still struggle hard to get out from the status as EU's economic pariah after struck down by 2008 economic crisis
East Timor will join later, not under Horta, Xanana and other Old generation.
Its horta though take everything he says with a pinch of salt.
True. He is the one who said Timor leste will become the next Dubai. Lol.
Welcome Timor Leste, i hope the best for your people :D
Why you not join aukus ? You left Indonesia and right now you want join our community Asian ?😅
why does this woman insist on ‘chinese, chinese’ card bs?
This is western media branch. What do you expect?
China phobia
@@donhsi chinazi
as usual,SG is Aussie-proxy in asia
Not join Australia? 🤣
Join Asean? I thought East-Timor is more a Polynesian/Melanesian country(like Maluku,Papua,Samoa,Fiji,countries in the Pacific, etc.)), not an asian country. But maybe i'm wrong..
join with your ausie buddy
Why east Timor not joint oceania Look like your brother? 😂😂
in Timor Leste there are more bad politicians than statesmen so the facts of the life of the people seem luxurious even though they have been lied to by politicians it turns out that it is full of poverty and backwardness but unfortunately the people are aware
No, they all not aware. The fact that they gave RH another chance to lead the country after one term without any significant development has say alot about their political awareness.
I'm from Timor and Ami hadomi Timor Leste❤
As an Indonesian, I just wish this will truly work out. But to put it bluntly, I'm not very confident about this. I can just imagine how dissatisfied Singapore rn.
All I can say to the East Timorese is, your country better actually develops quickly in five years, develop enough to actually bring something to table, it's for your own good. If things didn't get better internationally and a war broke out (as people already danced around this Fcken topic for a while now), East Timor won't be able to use China as a threat and leverage on other ASEAN countries. I'm afraid if push comes to shove, while a war was raging outside and you guys still didn't have anything meaningful to offer, Indonesia might just take you back under its reign. Think again, if a war really broke out in a worldwide scale, no one would care enough about a small country getting annexed back. At that time, no China could be used to threaten ASEAN.
This is a hard time. A storm is brewing under the surface. We never know when will NATO would suddenly declare war and make it a worldwide problem. We never know it. This isn't a threat. I sincerely wish for East Timor to actually improve and get out of poverty after your wealth was stolen by Australia, it hurt seeing East Timor got betrayed like that for me. But seeing it from a larger perspective. ASEAN being forced to take ET in just because of China makes it kinda uncomfortable.
Improve. Improve. Improve. Become better. I don't really want to see when we have to choose to hurt a brother or to be vulnerable. If possible, look for the right leaders to actually build your country at this moment.
as an indonesians maybe the country owe them reparations for invading and stalling their progress for decades....
@@l.337 for what? i mean after their indepentent from portugal they only have 1 km of road and 3 schools cmiiw. Indonesia build them, yes there are bad things happen new order is new order all part of Indonesia suffer. but we dont exploited their recources they dont have any at that time oil only discovered in late 90s. And just look/read about their independent, there are 3 faction at that time 1. wants to join with Indonesia 2. wants became outside territory of portugal 3. wants independent. Indonesia happen to assisted the the 1st faction and idk why president soeharto doest that and invaded them. No benefit at all, all we got is sanctions from international community. Soeharto is wrong i know but why again we owe them reparations? in my opinion its us who should ask for reparation for build the infrastructures just like the dutch when we nationalize "their" company and infrastructure.
@@l.337 We don't owe them any reparations. In fact they are the ones who should repay 2 decades of Indonesian taxpayer money that were used to build their sad place!
@@ignatiusryd2031 yall sound like white people bragging about colonialism lol.
@@l.337 For more than 20 years, 75 percent of Indonesian taxpayer money and incomes generated by provinces outside TL were chanelled to that place by Soeharto simply to make that place able to catching up its living standards with other provinces to the point where TL students at that time had a super special priviledges to study in Java without have to spent a dime for their Uni tutition. So why now Indonesia should grant them repatriation?? Come on, answer it!
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Timorese
Timor will be better to be close relationship with ASEAN than close relationship with China
😅😊
Timor should follow the way of Singapore...
Geography didn't bless the timorese unlike singapore
Unfortunately, Singaporean is smart and diligent so i don't think they can 😂
Timor leste is really desperate to join ASEAN when they are not qualified to be a members there are so many requirements that they need to do before joining ASEAN. This is not a good sign if we let them just because we threaten us by timor leste joining china.
What are those requirements?
@@ideensamalle597 Its own currency is one of the requirement. TL also need to be in par with Cambodia in terms of development and Human Resources quality, and also TL need to had a sufficient number of Diplomatic staff to cater the overwhelmingly busy ASEAN. Those four requirements were still unable to be fullfilled by TL to this day.
@@ignatiusryd2031good explanation
Why someone still believe with horta's venomous tounge??
Because there's so much stupid people there 😂
Wkwkw Horta and Timor Leste haters detected everywhere 🤣🤣🤣very happy to see haters like this rat one🤣🤣
I really don't like Ramos Horta.
He usually had wonderful things to say, but seemed to ignore reality, like in a fairy tale.
In fact, Timor Leste's 90% reliance on oil as a source of revenue
Timor Leste has a poor score in the HDI, coming in at position 133 (0.436). indicates how poorly developed the country is.
The unemployment rate is 20%, and 52.9% of people live on less than $1.25 USD a day.
Literacy rates in Timor Leste are at 50%. In the entire world, Timor Leste has one of the lowest rates of urbanization (27%).
You can dream and have optimistic thoughts, but you also need to get up and do something right.
Because at this moment, the future of Timor Leste is still unclear.
I agreed with Jose Ramos Horta. Sometimes the numbers are just numbers, you can have GDP biggest in ASEAN as long as your people do not live properly that just non sense. Properly means refers to the standard of living like Australia, New Zealand and Singapore.
In 2002 many people doubts about Timor Leste and look at it today, very much different with the condition in 2002, that is progress how small it is, it still a progress.
I had been in other countries for so many years, and while looking at the date weather it is with the improvements of infrastructure, education I can testify that this country has improved so so much that where I had been before. Many other times data can be shown but not all datas were taken in most of the rural areas. 20 years ago you see a lot of people using grass to cover the house but today even in rural areas the houses are way better, houses are all with blocks given the fact that it is way expensive to build a house in rural areas.
NO MATTER HOW Difficult THE SITUATION FACED BY EAST TIMOR, STILL TIMOR IS STRONG AND POTENTIALLY BECOME WEALTH COUNTRY IN THE FUTURE. THIS IS BECAUSE TIMOR IS WELL MANAGING ITS RESOURCES AND GO ALL OUT TO FIGHT POVERTY AND OTHER OBSTACLES AND CHALLENGES...
NOT LIKE INDONESIA THAT LOOKS BIG AND STRONG AND INDONESIANS ARE OFTEN SO ARROGANT ABOUT SELF CLAIMED TO THE RICHEST COUNTRY IN SOUTH EAST ASIA.....BUT IN REALITY....INDONESIA STILL EXIST BECAUSE THEY ARE CUNNINGLY INVADE AND COLONIZED ACEH AND WEST PAPUA AND CONTINUOUSLY STEALING THOSE TWO REGIONS NATURAL RESOURCES.
BUT ITS ALL ABOUT TO COME TO AN END BECAUSE ACEH AND WEST PAPUANS ARE FIGHT BRAVELY AND IN CONTINUOUSLY MANNER.
SO ITS JUST A MATER OF TIME FOR THIS SO CALL AS FAKE COUNTRY INDONESIA TO BE FUCKED UP AND TOTALLY DESTROYED...
Indonesia IS THE BIGGEST COLONIALIST AND ISLAMIC TERRORIST IN THIS MODERN ERA!!! 😡😡👿😈💀🤮🤮🤮🤯🤯🖕🖕🖕
@@satriaadil505 Potentially rich?? No. It would not. Too far from global trade routes, few resources, and lack human resources/manpower. Its a perfect recipe for a huge disaster in waiting.
I for one welcome Timor Leste into ASEAN 🇵🇭👍
Let them join.
One Word "Preett..."
Hi!Mr.President. i admire you what your answer, no ehthnic,no religion,no anti west,east china. all of CNN killing field question,you wisely answer. Hebat sangat. i am from same Noble prize winner country in asia. I born there and now in m'sia. wish you a good health n can steer your country on world map. terima kasih Mr President danCNN
ASEAN doesn't want Timor Leste to be her member because TL people describes herself as Portuguese people, not as Asian people 😁
You don't know anything about our country, so don't judge , because you never go there you not live there you don't know anything.
Who are you that you speak for over one million people. Timor Leste people are in Asia
@@viosantos1039 If your country did not define itself as Portuguese then why your country decide to join CPLP first before tried to join ASEAN?? Why your country use Portuguese as your national language rather than use Tetun?? What a total joke.
@@GoogleUser-wp6sg When the left Indonesia they define themselves as part of Oceania/Melanesians to the point where their country also joins the Melanesian Spearhead Group (MSG) with the most ironic fact is they were the sole MSG member that using portuguese as its national language and embrace portuguese culture as part of its main cultures, but then after saw the MSG buckle under its own internal disputes and saw ASEAN managed to steer clear away from they all in sudden change their definition into "Asian"
@@GoogleUser-wp6sgBut your leader seems 100% percent white people😅
People that hundred years ago occupied and colonized ASEAN 😅.
For some people, it just another neo-colonialism😅
Salut dengan perjuangan beliau untuk Tanah airnya Timor-Leste 🇹🇱
Kata Xanana Gusmao kalau timor leste tidak merdeka dia hanya akan jadi penjual ikan di Jakarta. Jadi tujuan minta merdeka kenyataannya hanya untuk kepentingan keturunan penjajah portugis ini karena kalau masih gabung Indonesia mereka bukan siapa siapa walaupun berdarah Eropa.
Mau join cuma mau bantuan duit kan. Negara gak punya apa kok apa yang ditawarkan ke ASEAN? Gak ada. Makanya mereka juga ogah Terima kau. Minta sama Australia sana
@@lucky889s9 LOL. Pemimpin dan pemerintah negaramu lebih bijaksana dari kamu.
@@timorleste9831 itu fakta, akui sajalah. mau join ASEAN untuk dapat dana bantuan dan fasilitas? Tapi kau tidak bawa apa apa buat ASEAN. Semua tahu itu, cuma gak mau ucap saja. Kenapa kau dibuang sama Australia atau Oceania? Kenapa rela dirampok Australia lalu dibuang?
@@timorleste9831 your sea rich in oil's right, or just Australian slave?
What will happen to TL when the oil run out and TL got weaker? China will do what the soviet did to TL an Cuba, we'll see how the Aukus response
País onde falam português ? Apenas dois: Portugal e Brasil. Nas ilhas africanas e em Angola, o creolo predomina. Em Moçambique, só 10% assumem o português como língua materna; em Guiné-Bissau, apenas 15% conseguem se comunicar no idioma luso. Em Timor Leste, pior ainda: o português não é entendido por quase ninguém da população !!!
As a Filipino, I am so hyped for Timor-Leste to join ASEAN. I've always seen them as long-lost cousins due to the fact that only The Philippines and Timor-Leste are the only culturally Ibero-Asiatic nationsin Asia. Spain in The Philippines and Portugal in Timor-Leste.
Why r u so proud of ur former colonial ruler?
Sorry mate, no slave mentality among the rest of Asean countries.
Se habla Espanol?
How can someone identify themselves proudly as Ibero-asiatic? That's so embarrassing. U guys are lucky Asia is far from Europe. Look at Latin America, Portuguese and Spanish destroyed their homeland, culture, language, even their genetic, Latin American have this identity crisis because they're mixed with God know what.
Filipino and east timorese are lucky they're still austronesian and not heavily mixed, and still have their language and (most) of their culture.
If I was flip I would want Timor to join too. Would make you guys more asian by comparison
Had they did not share the same cultural background and religion its obvious you pinoys would play blind
@@daddycool1940 Philippines is the only country in south east asia that were proud of their colonialism heritage. Like where's the indigenous Philippines? The malays and the Han and others? It mind boggling they were so proud of the Iberian heritage who wipe out every natives in the country they conquered.
Timor Leste you could rush your money just on ASEAN meeting only.
I hope Australia and New Zealand your brother always there to loan you money.
Nambah satu beban lagi ASEAN
Welcome new ASEAN brothers and sisters. Congratulation on being part of ASEAN. Australia should worry about its own problems rather than whatever deals China and East Timor strike on bc it's quite frankly NONE of Kangaroo land's business.
I’m sure Timor Leste will grow well ^^ much love from Cambodia 🇰🇭 do your best.
They'll perished once their oil were depleted
Welcome Timor Leste 👍✨
Beban
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As an Australian I really hope you all do well . I know our government in the last 70 years has not been very nice .
Your white goverment can go to the deepest part of hell and have a long date with lucifer.
You because you all stealing their oil
What are you talking about aren't Australia "liberated" East Timor from Indonesia ?😅
@@pan2aja yeah, they liberated timor leste from its own oil lol
@@pan2ajaJust like the "weapon of mass destruction" as the reason for usa to take middle eastern oil😅
You should join with Aussie and Oceanic country. Why you back to Asia ??
The time is coming
Kita harus segera membangun Tembok tinggi dan Pagar berduri di sepanjang perbatasan Timor barat! ✊🇮🇩
Ini situasi Buruk Bagi Indonesia!
Watakmu seperti US ke Mexico,tembok Berlin di WW2 atau Israel ke Palestina.
Itu sesuatu yang jahat dari sudut pandang manapun.
@@kenarok9596 Tidaklah merupakan hal jahat jika tujuan utamanya baik dalam artian menghadang para pelaku kriminal dan pelintas ilegal masuk.
Iya betul mereka sering menyelundupkan Narkoba ke Timor Barat.
Keturunan NICA tidak boleh dianggap remeh, mereka lebih beringas daripada Belanda itu sendiri.
Wkwk Donald Trump
gw kaget ama komentar buzzer2 🇮🇩, segitu ngga ada harga dirinyakah kalian cuma bisa ngerendahin negara lain, segitu takutkah kalian liat negara2 sekitar pada mengalami kemajuan,, the real pecundang beban negara
21:04 You mean gambling? That's people's money not yours.
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stop the corruption first
The only country want east timor join asean is Indonesia so sad
Timor Leste yes
Ramos Horta is too ambitious to join ASEAN. He used china as a bargaining card to threaten ASEAN countries to accept Timor Leste to join ASEAN as soon as possible. It seems ASEAN feel threatened and be intimidated by Ramos Horta statement . So there is no way for ASEAN to do, they must act and accept Timor Leste to be a member of ASEAN even some criteria which was set up by ASEAN is not yet fulfilled by Timor Leste.
My questions are:
1) is it Timor Leste economy getting better if joining ASEAN?
2) is ASEAN ready to take moral responsibility in term of economy and financial to help Timor Leste if Timor Leste economy collapsed? As We know together that Timor Leste economy is heavily relying on oil and gas industry. No other revenue Timor Leste can make except selling oil and gas. The problem is in 2025 to 2030 the major developed countries in Europe, America and Asia will not buy and use oil and gas anymore to run their industry, transportation etc . They will rely on renewable energy like sun, battery , Hydrogen fuel, wind turbine and water . Where will Timor Leste sell its oil and gas meanwhile those industrial countries no longer buy oil and gas ?
3) is Timor Leste ready to leave US Dollar and accept ASEAN policy if ASEAN choose to use single currency as their formal transection in the future ?
4) Is Timor Leste ready to leave or scrap its official language from its constitution (Tetun and Portuguese) if Asean choose Melayu as their official language? Because this issue has been echoed by Malaysia and Indonesia so far .
5) is it Asean countries willing to invest in Timor Leste and accept all risks and consequences in the future if their investment is failed. As we know together that Timor Leste infrastructure like airport , Electricity and telecommunications are the worst in the world . Electric goes off more often for hour and hour .Telecommunication or internet is running very slow and too expensive. International airport Nicolau Lobato in Dili is very small and can't accommodate big planes . New port in Dili is very expensive in term of tax collection. If a company establishes its factory there they will face four obstacles.
1) power (electricity)
2) internet
3) Marketing and
4) taxation.
Mate, ASEAN isnt EU where everything is one unitary system.
Haters
@@harukrentz435 he is just Pro Indonesian propagandanist..
Shamelessness Look at MYANmar... a country with full fledge membership of ASEAN.. what responsability.. they are more unstable then Timor leste.
Lmao ASEAn is not EU this guys is retarded singaporean who want to turn ASEAN into like EU..
Its good to see timor leste enter asean. Maybe asean should invite 1 more countries to make it 12. Country like taiwan. Just for business.
Bringing Taiwan to join ASEAN would put the SEA region in direct opposition to China. Taiwan is also not a member of the UN.
Taking Taiwan will start world war with China, what kind of business is that? Seeing your history comments talking China building military bases in East Timor or Singapore building military bases, you have no clue what you're talking about business, economy, nation welfare
australia puppet
Yeah but that china card is slowly burning up in flames so perhaps it isnt a great idea.
All the best to TimorLeste. Congratulations and Well Done on all your progress.
This president seems more smart than mine🤣
Of course he is.
But bet he's not smarter than my 1st rank of class in my highschool
🤣🤣🤣of course Ramos Horta is
Its all sweet talk...
Really..? Smart..? So what the result..? what he done with his country..? timor leste bigger than Indonesia..? Lets talk about economies, poverty and education, is they good enough than Indonesia have..?
As a 90s kids Indonesian, I support Timor Leste joining ASEAN. Our past is intertwined, let us align our futures too. Hopefully, we can move forward together and bury the pains of the past. Let the water flow under the bridge. ASEAN’s policy of non-intervention should be upheld, lest we disintegrate.
Saya salah satu orang yg percaya bhw 100 tahun lagipun Timor Leste ga akan pernah maju. Minim SDA gitu mau jadi satu negara..Hancurlah..
Good luck timor leste to become the next singapore! ❤️ From 🇮🇩
Indonesia have to invest big in timor leste to
Why should we? They choose to independent, then they must be independent.
@@shittyweaboo1590 well do you mind to have chinese base near indonesia?, and also dutch and japan also invest big in indonesia
@@starfromakihabara4896 instead of opportunity, they use threats. What a prospectus country...
@@starfromakihabara4896 I don't mind with that base. In fact i would be so happy to see it built on TL since it would gave two messages to the world. First of all is about how weak TL is and the second message is china has make Indonesia drifting back to the US military sphere.
They already invest, and help go enjoy your democrat system while hungry
As Indonesian, the country that always get called as "invader" from timor leste, I always support timor leste to become one of the newest member of ASEAN
I hope all ASEAN member will glad to accept timor leste as their family and start our cooporation and collaboration to develop a stronger and advanced south east asia region
I hope ASEAN emerging countries can build security and development circle that will boost every member of ASEAN
I also wait for cultural exchange from timor leste that will add more diversity and unity in ASEAN