Naming a line after a person (rather than location) is not standard naming scheme for transit in the GTA. I'm not sure why Metrolinx allowed this. It should've stayed the Hurontario line; it's intuitive and it makes sense
If there's a federal election before then, and proper corruption charges are levied against Trudeau and SNC-Lavalin, plus the mega fines that Crosslinx will incur for the incredible delays (and bless Metrolinx, IO and the Government for not actually telling the public that the consortium is going to be faced with huge financial penalties for the delay), then all you need to do is vote early, vote often, vote wisely, and for the love of everything holy, don't vote Liberal, and keep the faith that Metrolinx is doing the best they can as they're only the owner and project manager, not the builder, designer, maintainer or operator. But if you do get "involved", I wanna know.
I live along the corridor and wish I could be more enthusiastic about it. This line is more about moving people differently than getting people out of their cars and onto transit. For example, is the supposed “interchange” at Cooksville just a stop across the street from the station? In winter, I’d prefer just to drive to the GO station’s parking garage.
It would have been more expensive, but absolutely, below grade interchanges should have been constructed at Dundas Street, Cooksville GO station and Square One where people can transfer seamlessly at the bus terminal there. The proposed loop through the high density area west of Square One should also be underground. Otherwise, this is just a glorified streetcar.
Dundas is happening, they're planning it out right now. I get the impression that Derry is a higher priority than Britannia considering it has 2 go stations and plenty of businesses on it and the area is growing. The Mississauga transitway is still half finished, it was supposed to provide something for the Eglington/Burhamthorpe corridor, but no one is answering my questions about it.
Why are we naming transit lines after politicians? Who asked? At least I know the Hurontario Line is on Hurontario Street. Are we going to rename Ontario Line into the Doug Ford Line next?
@@SkysTrains No, only the catenary pole installation will be finished by July 2025. I am unsure on when the entire line will be done. They haven't finished bridge work on Highway 403 yet.
@@SkysTrains There’s still no tracks between Port Credit and the QEW (as of 2 weeks ago) so I sadly don’t think 2025 is possible 2026 maybe? Hopefully they have LRVs delivered soon as well, don’t think they’ve received any so far
Its own right of way OR elevated guide way. It has its own lanes on city streets and it goes on an elevated guideway when it gets to Hurontario/403 since of course they cant put it on the highway.
@@thecadeaujournals3980Take a look at the Kitchener ION. The entire line has traffic intersection priority and it doesnt share any road with traffic. Its just that in kitchener the trains run kind of slowly so the line still takes longer than driving, but the trains are ALWAYS (and by always i mean every single train) on time and they completely stick to the schedule. The predictability of the trains and the quality of the stations and vehicles honeslty makes having light rail be worth the investment
@andrewisvrycool Being slower than driving isn't good. People will be more inclined to drive if that's the fastest way to get around. This is better than a bus but only marginally.
@@apdjwivjekdif You know... with the speed at which Asian countries have been building their subways, this probably makes more sense than you intended it to. The racist undertone was unnecessary though.
Will the trains carrying ~50 passengers get actual signal priority at intersections or do they have to wait for inefficient left-turning single-occupancy vehicles?
It's not a subway or train. Yes all intersections will have signals, very similar to streetcars, tho at parts it will go by the side of the roadway instead of middle. The transit company will call them "smart" signals, which is a fancy way of saying for certain rush hour periods, signal periods may vary. See Eglinton LRT as it's already set up (tho not live yet).
Did she? I remember her opposing the subway extension and preferring investment in the go train line. She admitted regretting not investing in transit more back in 2009 before this LRT plan started.
@@Mystro256 That's kinda my point at the time GO Transit Trains are all about the park and ride. So supporting GO with a city that size is doing the opposite of supporting transit like LRT/Subways, while still seeming like you do. It's kinda like with the current argument of get the bikes off the only through roads in Toronto...it shows that you "support" bike lanes, just not where they would be most effective and help to create a network. But in the end, it's just a name, I'm just glad it's getting built and progress is being made.
I do wish they would take the extra step to burry the hydro lines so we aren’t stuck with these ginormous hydro poles in the middle of our city streets.
well thank you for mention that public transport also generates jobs, but mention the next time that running the LRV and maintaining them also generates more jobs...
I’m kinda just interested why every light rail or brt project in North America runs in the median. Why don’t run both tracks down the side of the street separating the rapid transit lines from cars?
I guess so roads that connect to Hurontario can still be open, they just can’t turn left to cross the tracks but if the LRT was on the side of the road, then traffic would have to cross the tracks or they just don’t have a road connection which could be considered as separating the community
Side profiles require extra traffic light phases and configurations due to conflicts with turning motorists. You have Traffic flowing like this: ⬇️⬇️⬇️ ⬆️⬆️⬆️ ⬇️⬆️ Plus turning vehicles, Plus bikes, plus pedestrians. It’s the same reason they built the walkway and bikeway on Highway 7 down the middle of the road where it crosses the 400. Another example is Danforth at the DVP where a high volume of cars turn onto a highway ramp, crossing a high volume cycle track. To make it safer required new lights, new phases, new markings… etc.
Lol at the cafe testimonial at the end. I live here and every time i pass by, the commercial plazas are engulfed in pilons, blocked lanes, caution tape, or driveways blocked. And i really feel sorry for the small businesses along the route. Yes construction workers struggle to keep access open, but as a driver going by, you would never know. Worth it in the long term or not, it decimated the businesses in the area that are not Walmart or Lablaws names.
Brampton is actually shooting themselves so badly in the foot by opposing this line going directly downtown. It’s the most obvious place to stop it with the GO station that’s RIGHT THERE. “Ruining the look of downtown Brampton” is a horrible excuse, especially when you look at how dead the retail scene is with the little foot traffic that’s currently there. Horribly shortsighted for that city.
7,5 during peak time particularly considering LRT aren’t known to be fast it’s bad. Will be even worst during off peak. And it’s not even considering almost all transits get delays. If we want peoples to use transit and drop their cars we need to so much better than that!
In Calgary we have trains about every 2-3 minutes during peak times. It’s honestly amazing watching the downtown corridor during that time and how many people it moves!
@@samuelo5052Toronto Subway might have many issues people can complain about, especially for not being larger for a city of thi size, but it does have very good frequency, runs often every 3-4 mins for much of the day. Rush hour at times they push it as much as 1-3 mins on average. I think Toronto Subway is possibly the highest subway frequency in USA/Canada cities only NYC with a much larger system rivals that frequency. In comparison while Chicago has a large L Subway system that is much larger then Toronto Subway, yet frequency was often 7-10 mins through out most of the day from my experince there. Montreal also has a great subway system that can rival Toronto, however from my experience on multiple trips the frequency is still not as fast as Toronto is. Mississauga not even being in the city of Toronto, being a suburb with lots of sprawl in many parts of Mississauga, getting a LRT with 7.5 mins frequency is pretty good I think. 4:19
@@wadexyzfor a LRT in a suburb of the city being built that isnt even designed to enter the main city but is rather built to connect to another suburb is a rare thing in USA/Canada cities. For a suburb to have a frequency of 7.5 mins sounds pretty good. Chicago Subway (The "L") I recently traveled on had 7-10 mins frequency on some of its main lines in the downtown core.
Metrolinx has zero credibility due to their gross incompetence, upper mgmt should be terminated en masse and replaced with competent private sector professionals to finish the Eglinton LRT, only in govt does one keep their job despite continuous incompetence and not meeting targets, instead of finishing their 1st major project, they're making propaganda videos
A complete boondoggle. @Metrolinx - can you confirm there will actually be any time saved by installing the streetcar vs. the existing busses? This is a lazy attempt at bolstering transit. It should have been a subway to truly provide people with a benefit to leave the car behind. And a needed connection along Dundas to Kipling Station. If you need help planning transit projects. My rates are fair.
Did metrolinx wake up and suddenly decide to be transparent to the public and drop videos every day now lol
i know, this shocked me
only when the Polit bureau says it makes them look good
Yessss 😂😂😂 but let’s not hold our breath there will be some drama around 90% completion just like Eglinton and finch lines WATCH
they're distracting from the eglinton line with the finch west and mcallion, both of which will absolutley get finished first and it will be so funny
@@famitory imo the funniest thing is you believing any of these projects are ever gonna get done, this is all just a scam, part of the Great Reset
Naming a line after a person (rather than location) is not standard naming scheme for transit in the GTA. I'm not sure why Metrolinx allowed this. It should've stayed the Hurontario line; it's intuitive and it makes sense
As I recall Doug Ford had something to do with this.
Because Druggie Dougie said so!
I cannot wait to see this line opens in 2138!!!❤🎉
If line 5 isn't finish by April I will have to get involved
By all means, why wait. Get involved right now :)
If there's a federal election before then, and proper corruption charges are levied against Trudeau and SNC-Lavalin, plus the mega fines that Crosslinx will incur for the incredible delays (and bless Metrolinx, IO and the Government for not actually telling the public that the consortium is going to be faced with huge financial penalties for the delay), then all you need to do is vote early, vote often, vote wisely, and for the love of everything holy, don't vote Liberal, and keep the faith that Metrolinx is doing the best they can as they're only the owner and project manager, not the builder, designer, maintainer or operator.
But if you do get "involved", I wanna know.
Naming this line after the very person who detailed transit in the city for 40 years is wild. Not to mention violates Metrolinx’s own naming rules.
I agree. However, as I recall Doug Ford made the final decision on this, or at least his Government was involved in the naming.
I live along the corridor and wish I could be more enthusiastic about it. This line is more about moving people differently than getting people out of their cars and onto transit. For example, is the supposed “interchange” at Cooksville just a stop across the street from the station? In winter, I’d prefer just to drive to the GO station’s parking garage.
Not everyone drives though. Although I agree, it would be nice if the Cooksville stop somehow could connect with the GO platforms directly.
It would have been more expensive, but absolutely, below grade interchanges should have been constructed at Dundas Street, Cooksville GO station and Square One where people can transfer seamlessly at the bus terminal there. The proposed loop through the high density area west of Square One should also be underground. Otherwise, this is just a glorified streetcar.
@@perllyngrenn2100 I agree that either underground, or elevated, portions of the line would likely help.
will there be enhanced east-west rapid bus routes that will feed the line. Like along Britannia, and Eglington, Burhamthorpe, and Dundas?
Dundas is happening, they're planning it out right now. I get the impression that Derry is a higher priority than Britannia considering it has 2 go stations and plenty of businesses on it and the area is growing. The Mississauga transitway is still half finished, it was supposed to provide something for the Eglington/Burhamthorpe corridor, but no one is answering my questions about it.
They're planning to increase service on Eglinton in Mississauga.
These updates are great! 🎉 Keep them coming
Why are we naming transit lines after politicians? Who asked?
At least I know the Hurontario Line is on Hurontario Street.
Are we going to rename Ontario Line into the Doug Ford Line next?
i think he'd be open to that
This practice has to stop. Have we learned nothing?
@@glassowaterfulIf Doug Ford died before Ontario Line's opening that could happen.
@@vincentng2392 It might take his death for it to happen.
Fantastic work even if its a bit behind schedule.
I only wish folks here in Hamilton would take notice and get on our own LRT project.
Please more projects across the entire GTA. 🙏
0:10 Yay! The proper pronunciation of the word kilometers!
I just saw them install Overhead Catenaries at Hurontario and Eglinton.
The paper they gave us said that it's to be finished by July 2025.
with how fast this has seemed to go i think 2025 is possible but i wouldnt get too excited
@@SkysTrains No, only the catenary pole installation will be finished by July 2025. I am unsure on when the entire line will be done.
They haven't finished bridge work on Highway 403 yet.
@@SkysTrains
There’s still no tracks between Port Credit and the QEW (as of 2 weeks ago) so I sadly don’t think 2025 is possible
2026 maybe? Hopefully they have LRVs delivered soon as well, don’t think they’ve received any so far
They said it was in its own right of way with its own elevated guideway, then proceed to show tracks in the middle of the road intersection.
It has its own right-of-way but it still has to cross intersections.
Yeah that Courtney Pk - Burnhamthorpe stretch is gonna be dead slow unless they provide some sort of priority signaling.
Its own right of way OR elevated guide way. It has its own lanes on city streets and it goes on an elevated guideway when it gets to Hurontario/403 since of course they cant put it on the highway.
@@thecadeaujournals3980Take a look at the Kitchener ION. The entire line has traffic intersection priority and it doesnt share any road with traffic. Its just that in kitchener the trains run kind of slowly so the line still takes longer than driving, but the trains are ALWAYS (and by always i mean every single train) on time and they completely stick to the schedule. The predictability of the trains and the quality of the stations and vehicles honeslty makes having light rail be worth the investment
@andrewisvrycool Being slower than driving isn't good. People will be more inclined to drive if that's the fastest way to get around. This is better than a bus but only marginally.
It will be opened in only 200 years. You're welcome.🤗
1:30 Thats actually Brampton GO highlighted instead of Brampton Gateway
Good to see surprising transparency from metrolinx on these projects I believe Markham also deserves an LRT line
A lot of Chinese residents in Markham, they are more than capable of building it themselves.
@@apdjwivjekdif You know... with the speed at which Asian countries have been building their subways, this probably makes more sense than you intended it to. The racist undertone was unnecessary though.
So basically this will open up by 2050 realistically
And still open before the Eglinton cross town.
Those prices at that cafe are crazy
Not really. Standard prices for small coffee shop.
This will be epic! I love subways.
Will the trains carrying ~50 passengers get actual signal priority at intersections or do they have to wait for inefficient left-turning single-occupancy vehicles?
It's not a subway or train. Yes all intersections will have signals, very similar to streetcars, tho at parts it will go by the side of the roadway instead of middle. The transit company will call them "smart" signals, which is a fancy way of saying for certain rush hour periods, signal periods may vary. See Eglinton LRT as it's already set up (tho not live yet).
I’d change the name. You (Doug Ford through Metrolinx) wants to name a transit line after the “Queen of Sprawl”
I hope the name changes. The line shouldn't be named after someone who opposed it for their entire political career.
Did she? I remember her opposing the subway extension and preferring investment in the go train line. She admitted regretting not investing in transit more back in 2009 before this LRT plan started.
@@Mystro256 That's kinda my point at the time GO Transit Trains are all about the park and ride. So supporting GO with a city that size is doing the opposite of supporting transit like LRT/Subways, while still seeming like you do. It's kinda like with the current argument of get the bikes off the only through roads in Toronto...it shows that you "support" bike lanes, just not where they would be most effective and help to create a network.
But in the end, it's just a name, I'm just glad it's getting built and progress is being made.
The bus line should be named after her: bus stations in the middle of nowhere, and Hazel chose the route.
@@Qaaxxx she didn’t oppose the LRT line. She opposed a subway extension
Should be named the Wendat Line, refering to the Huron-Wendat people honouring the Indigenous group historically connected to the region
Rapid transit between Missauaga and Vaughan?
It WILL feature 19 stops, when it opens. Talking about it in the present tense doesn't mean it's finished.
Seems to be a very expensive undertaking. So far none of the LRT projects in Ontario has done particularly well.
Seeing that this is being built by Metrolinx, can we expect an opening date of November 2 2070.
So this is more reliable than buses? Doesn't TTC have so many issues on the King Street Car lines?
Cries in Scarborough
And the Eglinton Crosstown lrt is not open.
What about the Eglinton line?
I do wish they would take the extra step to burry the hydro lines so we aren’t stuck with these ginormous hydro poles in the middle of our city streets.
THERe delays due to intersection accidents plus there is a low curb along the route which vehicles can jump after an accident
I thought Kenosha, Wisconsin naming its bus and streetcar terminal after Joe McCarthy was bad.
加油！
Dissapointed that Brampton rejected the idea of making the line all the way into downtown.
Now all the wonderful people in Brampton will make Mississauga just as wonderful......
well thank you for mention that public transport also generates jobs, but mention the next time that running the LRV and maintaining them also generates more jobs...
I’m kinda just interested why every light rail or brt project in North America runs in the median. Why don’t run both tracks down the side of the street separating the rapid transit lines from cars?
cheaper and less disruptive is my guess
I guess so roads that connect to Hurontario can still be open, they just can’t turn left to cross the tracks but if the LRT was on the side of the road, then traffic would have to cross the tracks or they just don’t have a road connection which could be considered as separating the community
Side profiles require extra traffic light phases and configurations due to conflicts with turning motorists. You have Traffic flowing like this:
⬇️⬇️⬇️ ⬆️⬆️⬆️ ⬇️⬆️
Plus turning vehicles, Plus bikes, plus pedestrians.
It’s the same reason they built the walkway and bikeway on Highway 7 down the middle of the road where it crosses the 400.
Another example is Danforth at the DVP where a high volume of cars turn onto a highway ramp, crossing a high volume cycle track. To make it safer required new lights, new phases, new markings… etc.
Profound
Metrolinx: Happening never stops happening
they need signal priority as well
did line 5 became nonexistent now
Lol at the cafe testimonial at the end. I live here and every time i pass by, the commercial plazas are engulfed in pilons, blocked lanes, caution tape, or driveways blocked. And i really feel sorry for the small businesses along the route. Yes construction workers struggle to keep access open, but as a driver going by, you would never know. Worth it in the long term or not, it decimated the businesses in the area that are not Walmart or Lablaws names.
Am I the only one who has never once heard of this thing until now?
Also only *7 and a half minutes at peak?!?!?* you call that rapid transit???
Brampton is actually shooting themselves so badly in the foot by opposing this line going directly downtown. It’s the most obvious place to stop it with the GO station that’s RIGHT THERE. “Ruining the look of downtown Brampton” is a horrible excuse, especially when you look at how dead the retail scene is with the little foot traffic that’s currently there. Horribly shortsighted for that city.
7.5 minutes seems excessive. Streetcars are even more frequent.
We will be lucky they get it ready for us by fall 2026? Embarrassing.
This time don't build the station in the middle of a river.
Another line with very low frequency. Most Ontario’s projects are disappointing.
You mean every 7.5 mins is low? For an LRT, I would say that's pretty decent service.
7,5 during peak time particularly considering LRT aren’t known to be fast it’s bad. Will be even worst during off peak. And it’s not even considering almost all transits get delays. If we want peoples to use transit and drop their cars we need to so much better than that!
In Calgary we have trains about every 2-3 minutes during peak times. It’s honestly amazing watching the downtown corridor during that time and how many people it moves!
@@samuelo5052Toronto Subway might have many issues people can complain about, especially for not being larger for a city of thi size, but it does have very good frequency, runs often every 3-4 mins for much of the day. Rush hour at times they push it as much as 1-3 mins on average. I think Toronto Subway is possibly the highest subway frequency in USA/Canada cities only NYC with a much larger system rivals that frequency. In comparison while Chicago has a large L Subway system that is much larger then Toronto Subway, yet frequency was often 7-10 mins through out most of the day from my experince there. Montreal also has a great subway system that can rival Toronto, however from my experience on multiple trips the frequency is still not as fast as Toronto is.
Mississauga not even being in the city of Toronto, being a suburb with lots of sprawl in many parts of Mississauga, getting a LRT with 7.5 mins frequency is pretty good I think. 4:19
@@wadexyzfor a LRT in a suburb of the city being built that isnt even designed to enter the main city but is rather built to connect to another suburb is a rare thing in USA/Canada cities. For a suburb to have a frequency of 7.5 mins sounds pretty good.
Chicago Subway (The "L") I recently traveled on had 7-10 mins frequency on some of its main lines in the downtown core.
i'm sorry you're calling this rapid transit when there's 55 intersections (points of conflict) across an 18km line?? What a disaster in the making
Just admit you'll never build the one in Hamilton
When metrolinx isnt doing upgrades: What a waste of money
When metrolinx is doing upgrade: what a waste money its not even open yet
Opening 2026
A failure of imagination, design process and execution. Ontario pays a very high price for mediocrity.
Metrolinx has zero credibility due to their gross incompetence, upper mgmt should be terminated en masse and replaced with competent private sector professionals to finish the Eglinton LRT, only in govt does one keep their job despite continuous incompetence and not meeting targets, instead of finishing their 1st major project, they're making propaganda videos
A complete boondoggle. @Metrolinx - can you confirm there will actually be any time saved by installing the streetcar vs. the existing busses?
This is a lazy attempt at bolstering transit. It should have been a subway to truly provide people with a benefit to leave the car behind. And a needed connection along Dundas to Kipling Station.
If you need help planning transit projects. My rates are fair.