Say what you will about proxies or cheese, but it really shows how good Maru's marine micro is. It's reminiscent of when Byun was making reapers look OP with sick micro
Hey man, people following a sport like to make their observations about players, in this case, comparing Reynor to a more experienced player. He's not trying to see he could, or even be mean about it.
Well I mean yea, Zerg has free units that can take out heavy cost units. I’m not even talking about energy units like infestors. Broodlord/swarmhost”lokus ”, then you get your corrosive biles too. Toss and Terran can complain about that I guess. Personally for me, I just hate the look of Zerg and will refuse to play it lols.
I've seen the best tier terrans lose to a zerg player with very little tournament experience in these past tournaments. Even protoss has a tough time too from what I've seen in these tournaments. It seems Terrans have to get everything just right in terms of unit micro(libs+tanks siege, marine stim+splitting+dropping and everything else) while Zerg is just make a lot of units and attack, remax, throw some random ling counter attack run by's, and win game. Am I right? What do you guys think?
To all people who cry in here in comments about a balance. First game: Maru does poor engagements and does not look at his depo wall. Second game: Blind build counter by Reynor, but STILL loses to Maru. Are you blind? Or you just see what you want to see?
Think of this example: Send 4 helions to a mineral line and send 16 lings to a mineral line. (both being undefended) Draw your own conclusions. In regard to you considering sniping to be stupid: the ghost only shoots if undamaged while aiming. Have you ever considered how "stupid" would be to have a flying unit that can pull massive units with its tonge?
Until blizzard nerf terran to the ground. Most of the large amt of builds that terran originally had been killed while barely giving another way to work with.
since 2016, only 2 zergs won GSL events, Rogue in 2017 (supertournament 2) and Serral in GSL vs. World. This is 2 out of 12 over the last three years, how is it broken???
Honestly, these games don't really show anything. First game was simply poorly played by Maru, nothing more to say. Second game was a botched proxy, and it was only Maru's beyond amazing skills that brought it back. The only problem in TvZ right now is the very late game where Ravens are too weak and/or Battlecruisers are simply really expensive harass units and nothing more, not a real power unit like Broods and Carriers. T simply has no way to make use of the gas income late game with really impactful units. That causes Terrans to not try to go for the supreme late game, and puts pressure to finish the game before Z can. Mech could also use a minor buff - not the tanks and thors, but the later game cyclones and hellbats.
Damn, why did I think there was time between Maru's first match and this one? I didn't think it would be same day. EDIT: I bet on Maru to beat Neeb and would've bet on him to beat Reynor if I knew the game was being held right after his match vs Neeb.
I suck at this game, but i still reached diamond as zerg because I just turtle up til 3 bases and max out by 8-9 min mark on average like how serral does it. It's sooo strong
cheese is not a crime, you can do whatever you can in order to win the game ,respect the result, the little kid just need more training, and he deserved to lose.
kingmo412 yea that and the zerglings counter. Zerglings are too cheap yet upgraded zerglings counter can be almost game ending in a matter of seconds. Marines with steam dont kill workers as fast as zerglings in the mineral line. Its just imba. Worst thing is zerglings are that much easier to micro compared to marines. For being so cheap, its so fast, hardy, does dmg at a crazy dps and has a small surface area. To make matters worse, you just have to drag select, move click and A click. Compare that to marines harrass with medivac. You lose it, ur medivac is gone, you suffer a huge loss. You lose zerglings in the mid game to late game, thats no problem
If maru's mouse/computer was working he would killed Raynor game 1. So no ZvT isn't broken, Maru simply couldn't micro his marines due to faulty computer
Of course no it's not his own computer, it's GSL's computer. And Maru did a pause they fixed the problem. Fucking terran fanboys need to cry all the time, now it's computer's fault lmao. You guys never fail to impress me at crying, even when you win a game that was unwinnable as in game 2 where Maru totally failed cheese doing 0 dmg and still wins the game, which doesn't happen with any other race. Like please stop already.
Im simply saying Maru lost ALL his marines and wasn't even able to micro due to whatever malfunction it was. Maru is god level marine micro. He would've killed lots of those zerglings and picked up and got out of there. Little things like that could determine a game. If maru won game 1, we would not be talking about balance. Is all Im saying. You're the one getting butthurt. So stop please.
This match is a perfect example of how broken Starcraft is. Maru is by far one of the top 3 best Terran players in the world with a ton of pro match experience and game experience in general. He barely wins game 2 because of few very lucky engagements and has to cheese game 3 against some 16 year old kid with very little pro tournament experience. After barely winning game 2 Maru had no choice but cheese, knowing he would most likely loose playing regular opener. Again one of the best Terrans has to cheese to win against some kid. If this doesn’t show you how weak Terran is and how OP Zerg is I don’t know what will.
I disagree. Maru can execute any build he wants. According to Tastosis, Maru believes Neeb and Reynor to be the weakest in the round of 16. I think it was a strategy to constantly proxy to hide his preferred builds for the later rounds. I think the nerf to Ravens, which Maru loved to use in late game, has changed the meta for TvZ. I think the matchup is in a process of finding a new meta for terrans. Zerg players might have the advantage now but its only temporary. Blizzard still might choose to change some things to balance it but I think its still too early to say for sure.
At this level cheese is not really cheese anymore. It's a legit pro strategy. If only the opposing player scouts and finds the cheese, pretty much instant win right? But then again if they go scout for cheeses, the lose mining time and lose in resources.
Disgusting. Terrans can totally fail a cheese and recover from it with mules, moving command centers and mediboost. Maru cheesing as always, thx for reminding me while I stopped playing this game long ago.
Maru can play any game at the highest level. Micro top, macro top, early game top, late game top, proxy top. What is there not to like, because he keeps winning?
Michael Hsu Cheese though, I barely see Maru do some crazy cheesy stuff. As fun and admirable the way he plays, nothing is really more entertaining then watching Has or sOs cheese and mind game their opponents. Those two just bring freshness into an already "established meta". Maru is very fun to watch but it can get repetitive.
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Maru just went god mode in game 2 and saved the day. Reynor did very well, though.
He got lucky that Reynor didn't counter like in game 2.
Reynor did counter. Zerglings got block by double e-bay. And got roasted by hellions.
李智勇Justin Bairan indeed! Maru put in place a great timely - and in some way lucky - response. Then played like the excellent player he is.
Federico Lizzi , those 2 lucky marines (accidentally scouts the zerglings) lol.
李智勇Justin Bairan yup! If they didn't, Reynor will be in the Ro8. Such a shame for this young fella
These GSL players have balls of steel. I get panic attacks just playing on ladder.
Best break ever! ^^ I've watch and listen you more than from scrap station till now.
Reynor with that smug look on his face after game 1. Premature young one.
So funny coming back to these old VODs, TERRAN IMBA! Guy won all 3 GSL in the same year. He's just godlike.
Say what you will about proxies or cheese, but it really shows how good Maru's marine micro is. It's reminiscent of when Byun was making reapers look OP with sick micro
That was a great series. I thought Reynor was going to win, Maru pulls off the amazing comback. Reynor has a bright future.
not enough experience, the second game overwhelming advantage was not realized
Doom Day yep, you could have realized it
Hey man, people following a sport like to make their observations about players, in this case, comparing Reynor to a more experienced player. He's not trying to see he could, or even be mean about it.
Reynor gives the middle finger to the camera at 27:50
Kaze hahah.just posted that also
He was cracking his finger
he is so proud
reynor is so proud
Because of this gesture he got game 3. :)
Man.. Tastosis are such an amazing duo. There is always something to laugh about. Thanks for all the entertaining casting so far
Maru...the legend of micro and 2 rax. Mindblowing micro under highest possible pressure.
at 27:49 reynor sticks up middle finger
He's like "f u maru" xd
artosis missed T when he said abc's backwards
He missed I, too.
start @ 2:45
continue @ 24:17
LOL the finger skateboard I totally forgot about kids that did those!
here is suggestion tastosis cam on every game just have them in a little corner of the screen would give another dimension to the commentary
I love that the letter that Artosis missed is T.
HOW Maru did this??? It is just INSANE!!!
"reynor starts bucking *neigh* and puts down a pool"
So many people whining about balance.... you can just play zerg then
eh.. but Humans..... bugs, humans, bugs, HUMAAAAANS!
Well I mean yea, Zerg has free units that can take out heavy cost units. I’m not even talking about energy units like infestors. Broodlord/swarmhost”lokus ”, then you get your corrosive biles too. Toss and Terran can complain about that I guess. Personally for me, I just hate the look of Zerg and will refuse to play it lols.
go maru!!! back to back to back!!!
I've seen the best tier terrans lose to a zerg player with very little tournament experience in these past tournaments. Even protoss has a tough time too from what I've seen in these tournaments. It seems Terrans have to get everything just right in terms of unit micro(libs+tanks siege, marine stim+splitting+dropping and everything else) while Zerg is just make a lot of units and attack, remax, throw some random ling counter attack run by's, and win game. Am I right? What do you guys think?
Where can I get the music that was used for this vedio?
What is the theme that plays in the beginning? From 00:00 to 00:10
My God Maru the beast!
That Dj soundtrack is amazing man
To all people who cry in here in comments about a balance.
First game: Maru does poor engagements and does not look at his depo wall.
Second game: Blind build counter by Reynor, but STILL loses to Maru.
Are you blind? Or you just see what you want to see?
Think of this example: Send 4 helions to a mineral line and send 16 lings to a mineral line. (both being undefended) Draw your own conclusions. In regard to you considering sniping to be stupid: the ghost only shoots if undamaged while aiming. Have you ever considered how "stupid" would be to have a flying unit that can pull massive units with its tonge?
anyone know who does that linkin park cover?
ZvT is broken. Zerg is too strong against Terran. The fact Maru can pull off wins against Zerg is a testament to how insanely good he is
Until blizzard nerf terran to the ground. Most of the large amt of builds that terran originally had been killed while barely giving another way to work with.
since 2016, only 2 zergs won GSL events, Rogue in 2017 (supertournament 2) and Serral in GSL vs. World. This is 2 out of 12 over the last three years, how is it broken???
plz shame on you... it is that reynor is just BEYOND on ALL OF ZERG PLAYERS...
SHUT UP BRONZE LEAGUER
Honestly, these games don't really show anything. First game was simply poorly played by Maru, nothing more to say. Second game was a botched proxy, and it was only Maru's beyond amazing skills that brought it back.
The only problem in TvZ right now is the very late game where Ravens are too weak and/or Battlecruisers are simply really expensive harass units and nothing more, not a real power unit like Broods and Carriers. T simply has no way to make use of the gas income late game with really impactful units. That causes Terrans to not try to go for the supreme late game, and puts pressure to finish the game before Z can. Mech could also use a minor buff - not the tanks and thors, but the later game cyclones and hellbats.
I loved the bunker micro
Playmond we all did
Guys, what a song name, start at 0:40?
片源傳錯了? 少第三場
27:49 That finger was a long time coming revenge though LOL XD
Damn, why did I think there was time between Maru's first match and this one? I didn't think it would be same day.
EDIT: I bet on Maru to beat Neeb and would've bet on him to beat Reynor if I knew the game was being held right after his match vs Neeb.
27:49.reynor giving the good old mindle finger happy flip.
Artosis 😂 alphabet backwards made me laugh so hard. He just went for it
Final game almost gave me a heard attack... so much suspense
Awesome match, Maru is simply amazing!
Jajaja this is my favorite anime: "Foreign Zerg"
And this is why the Italian Spaghett seeking to be a commentator. When you can't play, talk…
I suck at this game, but i still reached diamond as zerg because I just turtle up til 3 bases and max out by 8-9 min mark on average like how serral does it. It's sooo strong
cheese is not a crime, you can do whatever you can in order to win the game ,respect the result, the little kid just need more training, and he deserved to lose.
It doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile. A win is a win.
That game 2 HOW THE HELL. My GOD.
I came to watch the awkward exchange of tasteosis during downtime :D
Rly Well played Rayner!
El ultimo juego no me gustó, yo queria ver un juego mas amplio
Artosis had funny voice often in this cast.
Proxy 2 rax in decider against a hatch gas pool into third... against Maru that's a risk you can't take.
When saying the alphabet backwards he forgot the "I"
Wah wah zerg imba wah wah nerf zerg wah wah
jucy tears of a salty zerg player
lol Ive never seen tastosis so uncomfortable
johnny roe me too, Tasteless seemed genuinely upset
I think they dont like the producer or something
For the pause of 8:00, the game continues on 24:13
the amount of crying about balance in the coments is making my computer wet, l2p noobs.
To win a match in blizzard game you have to have 80% of skill, 19% of luck and 1% of op units ;) The most balanced game ever
Reynor could have won game two, if he didn't go for late game hydras. ... glass cannons.
Casters are so fun!
"Let's say the alphabet backwards"
I miss siege tank drops in siege mode.
henry tep I missed that era, I’m bummed, that I never was able to use that
1% the dream
Banelings are just imba. Specialy vs T
kingmo412 yea that and the zerglings counter. Zerglings are too cheap yet upgraded zerglings counter can be almost game ending in a matter of seconds. Marines with steam dont kill workers as fast as zerglings in the mineral line. Its just imba. Worst thing is zerglings are that much easier to micro compared to marines. For being so cheap, its so fast, hardy, does dmg at a crazy dps and has a small surface area. To make matters worse, you just have to drag select, move click and A click. Compare that to marines harrass with medivac. You lose it, ur medivac is gone, you suffer a huge loss. You lose zerglings in the mid game to late game, thats no problem
always funny to see a big terran defence just to get rekt by a-move banes
True. Zergling and bane are very good to against terran.
as funny as marines only destroy all zerg bases and units
24:16 first match
sooo many noob peenoise here crying balance
that was rough
If maru's mouse/computer was working he would killed Raynor game 1. So no ZvT isn't broken, Maru simply couldn't micro his marines due to faulty computer
that was is own computer. Is own fault.
Of course no it's not his own computer, it's GSL's computer. And Maru did a pause they fixed the problem. Fucking terran fanboys need to cry all the time, now it's computer's fault lmao. You guys never fail to impress me at crying, even when you win a game that was unwinnable as in game 2 where Maru totally failed cheese doing 0 dmg and still wins the game, which doesn't happen with any other race. Like please stop already.
Im simply saying Maru lost ALL his marines and wasn't even able to micro due to whatever malfunction it was. Maru is god level marine micro. He would've killed lots of those zerglings and picked up and got out of there. Little things like that could determine a game. If maru won game 1, we would not be talking about balance. Is all Im saying. You're the one getting butthurt. So stop please.
wow maru was scared of reynor,
Reynor has greatness in his future
Maru win, go asian
These kids never shake hands after the game... I don't respect them as sportsmen, they give no good example anyway
LMFAO Tech Decks!!
This match is a perfect example of how broken Starcraft is. Maru is by far one of the top 3 best Terran players in the world with a ton of pro match experience and game experience in general. He barely wins game 2 because of few very lucky engagements and has to cheese game 3 against some 16 year old kid with very little pro tournament experience. After barely winning game 2 Maru had no choice but cheese, knowing he would most likely loose playing regular opener. Again one of the best Terrans has to cheese to win against some kid. If this doesn’t show you how weak Terran is and how OP Zerg is I don’t know what will.
ayasinsk you're saying this after maru dominating 2 gsls as TERRAN
Maru is an exceptional pro player. Look at which races play in the finals and win tournaments, vast majority are zerg and protos.
I disagree. Maru can execute any build he wants. According to Tastosis, Maru believes Neeb and Reynor to be the weakest in the round of 16. I think it was a strategy to constantly proxy to hide his preferred builds for the later rounds.
I think the nerf to Ravens, which Maru loved to use in late game, has changed the meta for TvZ. I think the matchup is in a process of finding a new meta for terrans. Zerg players might have the advantage now but its only temporary. Blizzard still might choose to change some things to balance it but I think its still too early to say for sure.
At this level cheese is not really cheese anymore. It's a legit pro strategy. If only the opposing player scouts and finds the cheese, pretty much instant win right? But then again if they go scout for cheeses, the lose mining time and lose in resources.
But somehow he destroy Protos like they are garbage player.
You're right Artosis, BvS was one of the worst movies ever made.
well, maru is still op
Disgusting. Terrans can totally fail a cheese and recover from it with mules, moving command centers and mediboost. Maru cheesing as always, thx for reminding me while I stopped playing this game long ago.
wow wow zerg is so overpower and thats why the zerg keep losing and terran always dominate the 1st ranking
3경기 마린컨 실하냐 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Starcraft so imba
zerg is too strong
Wtf reynor gave up too early in game 3
uhhh what else could he do? Wait till tanks come and raze his ass?
he may have made a mistake cancelling 3rd base after going for it without scouting but when 2nd base dies it's time to pull the plug
Kris Deng go play ball bro
Hows luol deng doing lately
27:50 .|. xD
The baneling health need nerf and remove that no skill que injects its so dum
You can que injects? That removes quite a bit from the game especially on the professional level
never really liked Maru's playstyle. He's really, really good but it's boring and cheap.
Insane macro and micro is boring ok lol
You rather watch zerg A-move constantly with no micro?
Maru can play any game at the highest level. Micro top, macro top, early game top, late game top, proxy top. What is there not to like, because he keeps winning?
Michael Hsu Cheese though, I barely see Maru do some crazy cheesy stuff. As fun and admirable the way he plays, nothing is really more entertaining then watching Has or sOs cheese and mind game their opponents. Those two just bring freshness into an already "established meta". Maru is very fun to watch but it can get repetitive.
Lol you have bad taste then how do you call this S++ terran boring and cheap