>Maru kills all of Zanster's army >"It's not THAT bad, he still has great creep spread, money in the bank, and it's not like he traded 13 ultras" >Zanster spreads one creep tumor >"OMG look at his creep spread, it's like I'm watching Scarlett. He still has so much money in the bank, perfect unit combo, what an absolutely perfect game"
NoRegreT is seriously a really great caster. He's so authentic and knowledgeable. I think he's become my favorite after Tastosis. And of course he's siding with Zanster. He is staying in the same house and coaching him. Casters being emotionless robots would be pretty boring.
I respectfully disagree. Of course casters shouldn't be emotionless robots, but they shouldn't be as biased as NoRegret was in this game. It's the caster's job to commentate the game as objectively as possible. I don't mind slip-ups every now and then, but it feels like NoRegret didn't even try to be ojective. I completely agree that he's authentic and knowledgeable and I respect him for that, but it's very difficult to watch him constantly and verbally commentate against the player you're rooting for. I don't think it should be a decision between "being emotionless robots" and being completely biased like NoRegret is being in this game, but it should be a balance between the two. Tastosis is a great example of casters who try their best to be as objective as possible and yet not being completely emotionless robots.
Yea, I get what you mean. I guess you notice it more if it's against the player you're rooting for. Him being an amateur casting a friend's important match probably makes it hard to not be biased. If NoRegreT is going professional though, he definitely should be more objective.
I think NoRegret could have given more of the Terran perspective, but it wasn't a big deal. I don't think he has to be "objective" - that doesn't bother me as long as it isn't overboard. But I did enjoy his casting in any case.
I like NoRegret. He needs to be a substitute every time Tasteless or Artosis is out. There was some other guy who made jokes I didn't like and didn't know much about SC2 that casts sometimes... I don't like that guy's casting
He needs to stop siding with "foreigners" and start commenting objectively. Zanster this, Zanster that, everything is about Zanster. It's like he's supporting Zanster the ally against Maru the enemy.
Damn Zanster just looks so good in game 1. I mean I kinda feel him because, just as he said he's doing not as good on the ladder and suddenly got invited, it must have been some great joy. He's just walking in with no psychological pressure whatsoever and have his share of fun. Also I gotta say I love how logical the European players play. They don't hesitate to throw down spine and spore just for precaution and they go ling bane hydra against the raven ghost just for the sake of the lings being good against ghosts. A lot of time you just see Korean zerg massed and viper broodlords cuz they just can't think of anything (Soo for example)
Really nice work by Zanster, wasn't expecting such a challenge for Maru Noregrets was also decent but talked over Artosis constantly with no filter. A lot of comments were just what a player should or shouldnt do as backseat gaming but for both guys i think it's a matter of experience. Zanster's decision making and strategy failed him but with time he could get to be real scary
Should starcraft 2 games just end with a default lose for zerg after the 15 min mark? What's the point of watching zerg vs carriers and ravens if the zerg race is literally designed to only win 200 food fights with overwhelming resource advantages that would allow them to trade super inefficiently against superior protoss and terran armies?
Can you both please comment more objectively, instead of commenting everything from Zanster's point of view? The Zanster bias is very obvious here, and it's very unprofessional of casters to actively support one player over another - especially casters for an official channel/organisation. Is it because you all identify with Zanster, probably because he is a "foreigner" (and likely of the same race as you)?
Well, probably yes - and so what? Why the fuck you guys always end up with some "races issue" shit? It's totally OK for a non-Korean casters to support a new player, who is making great against one of the best Terrans in the world. Same situation with almost every Korean vs Foreigner match ups, it's natural to support a catching up side.
Maru is pretty heavily favored in this match. It's pretty normal for casters to try and hype up underdogs and be heavy with applause when they do anything noteworthy. If it has anything to with Foreign vs Korean, then it's because foreigners suck in comparison, thus again, an underdog thing and not a race thing.
"Who is Chris Hemsworth? I have no idea, We're a bunch of nerds. He must be a football player" 🤣 meanwhile, nerds are watching ALL 8 Thor/Avenger movies, apparently paying no attention to the cast. Chris is legit one the most famous and highest paid actors in the world. 🇦🇺👌🏽
The thing I love about NoRegret is that he's actually brains behind Scarlett and Neeb's success. He may not be one of the best players but he's proven himself to be one of the best coaches. In fact the Scarlett's builds are designed under the tutelage of NoRegret. When Neeb won his premier Korean tournament he stayed at Scarlet and NoRegret's gaming house.
mystirboy i didn t know who he was i just like the balance . Also the fact that a player can learn alot And know better what s going on in the match So i like these two togheter
No, horrible biased commentators. Both of them aren't objective and are commenting from Zanster's point of view - e.g. commenting "Nice move by Zanster", "That sucks for Zanster", instead of the corresponding "This is bad for Maru", "That's good for Maru" for the same situation. There's a lot of Zanster-sympathy from the commentators and not enough credit being given to Maru, when Maru is clearly the better player apart from a few slip-ups.
John Smith lol Of course they r zanster fans N no , they gave maru lots of credit U didn t get it They praised the fact that zanster managed that While maru is maru Lol U didn t get it
Oh Zanster is good, this is good for Zanster, I think Zanster is in good position here, Zanster did that perfectly, that went good for Zanster... I mean cmmon guys. Cant you just play objective?
Agree. It's very unprofessional of casters to support one player over another, be it because he's the underdog, or because he's a "foreigner" (or maybe even because he's of the same race as the casters) in SC2 terms.
If you had objective casters, then this whole thing would be "well, we're just gonna sit here and wait for Maru to win. He's gonna win this unless he falls asleep." Instead, the casters try to hype anything the underdog does that even slightly good. Even in their comments for Zanster there is acknowledgement of Maru's skill when they say things like "Zansters creep spread is really nice especially against Maru who is typically attacking everywhere and destroying people"
Micheal Corser Objective =/= Emotionless. Just look at Tastosis casting, that's a perfect example of casters who are full of emotion and try their best to be objective. I really don't think it's a "cheering for the underdog" thing because you don't see this level of bias from NoRegret in other games like Maru vs Dear. I don't get why people have this idea that you can't be objective and full of emotion at the same time, it's not mutually exclusive.
There's always way more comments about the casters than the actual games themselves. Lmao. And I personally didn't mind them praising Zanster the whole match. I mean, he's up against the defending champ and actually held him well until very late game both times. Great games and good casting.
It's not that Zanster were that good, it was only because Maru's games are all over the place, they can research those for his benefits, while Zanster's games...welp, not so much. Btw, Maru also starts from bottom, hes not immediately this good, I remember when Maru were still a new comer in GSL, back when Flash and Innovation were still reigns over Terran. But I see Maru has adaptive nature that both Flash and Innovation doesn't, probably since he is a new breed and SC Broodwar doesn't affects him much.
Well, I´m no doctor but what the comments are suffering from seems to be bitchy Maru fanboys. NoRegret did a good job casting and I appreciate the technical inside. Also, Zanster played two great games.
Actually, for sure, like, if he hadn't taken all that damage he would be like, legit ahead. But these are fine trades, good trades for sure actually. Actually, for sure.
I hate this dude's casting, he isn't neutral at all, he is constantly complimenting the zerg player and being disappoineted when zanster has something go wrong. either he likes zanster too much or he always roots for zerg. Foolish.
Wait a second, was he wearing a Carhart beanie? No way... Where I'm from Carhart is a way of life... In New England, Carhart is the only clothing that u actually get your moneys worth out of, respect for repping THAT Dear!! P.S. I don't like seeing one caster poop on the other, under any circumstances...
noregret casting (considering he just started doing it here) is million times enjoyable than tasteless - even if cheering 4 zanster - helps to get a feel in his situation - against maru...come on, its fun - also this way artosis is balanced back to focus to actual game, not memories or go total offtopic for a minute as he does with tasteless - for me that was big turn down recently - but all is subjective...have fun! gg & gg!
I find the offtopic stuff really fun and enjoyable. The way I see it, I'd like to have a whole spectrum of "types" of casters/caster duos. It's important to have ultra-technical casters in the community as well as casters who are just fun and spontaneous. Seeing as the majority of casters don't follow the tastosis style, I'm really glad that they exist
nitroyetevn cool, thanks for sharing. Its actually great that all kinds of people can enjoy these from various reasons. And fun fact - just watching one, sOs vs Life, Blizzcon 2015 finals - Tastosis do my kind of cast - being on current point, explaining, no offtopic, no stories - very cool :) anyway, have a nice day!
This series could've been epic. Instead, it became a shit show due to Artosis and Noregret being biased as hell. Everytime there is a foreigner I'm just gonna tune in to the Korean stream
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I love how Maru immediately adjusted to Zanster's play-style at game 2. This just proves that he's a very exceptional Terran player.
5:25 The translation is wrong. He said he wants to be reborn as "Won Bin", a famous Korean actor, not Chris Hemsworth.
>Maru kills all of Zanster's army
>"It's not THAT bad, he still has great creep spread, money in the bank, and it's not like he traded 13 ultras"
>Zanster spreads one creep tumor
>"OMG look at his creep spread, it's like I'm watching Scarlett. He still has so much money in the bank, perfect unit combo, what an absolutely perfect game"
always in love with gsl songs... the dj should have a list or make a list from the music he uses in gsl
first game 8:13
matt blanke so nice!
Smells like spice, hopefully the ladies will lick his dice
MAN game one was so good!!
NoRegreT is seriously a really great caster. He's so authentic and knowledgeable. I think he's become my favorite after Tastosis. And of course he's siding with Zanster. He is staying in the same house and coaching him. Casters being emotionless robots would be pretty boring.
I respectfully disagree. Of course casters shouldn't be emotionless robots, but they shouldn't be as biased as NoRegret was in this game. It's the caster's job to commentate the game as objectively as possible. I don't mind slip-ups every now and then, but it feels like NoRegret didn't even try to be ojective.
I completely agree that he's authentic and knowledgeable and I respect him for that, but it's very difficult to watch him constantly and verbally commentate against the player you're rooting for.
I don't think it should be a decision between "being emotionless robots" and being completely biased like NoRegret is being in this game, but it should be a balance between the two. Tastosis is a great example of casters who try their best to be as objective as possible and yet not being completely emotionless robots.
Yea, I get what you mean. I guess you notice it more if it's against the player you're rooting for. Him being an amateur casting a friend's important match probably makes it hard to not be biased. If NoRegreT is going professional though, he definitely should be more objective.
I think NoRegret could have given more of the Terran perspective, but it wasn't a big deal. I don't think he has to be "objective" - that doesn't bother me as long as it isn't overboard. But I did enjoy his casting in any case.
NorHkn wut you smoking bro
^ ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
These games didn't feel the same without the og tastosis combo
We didn’t get to see the bbq in the second game :(
I like NoRegret. He needs to be a substitute every time Tasteless or Artosis is out. There was some other guy who made jokes I didn't like and didn't know much about SC2 that casts sometimes... I don't like that guy's casting
He needs to stop siding with "foreigners" and start commenting objectively. Zanster this, Zanster that, everything is about Zanster. It's like he's supporting Zanster the ally against Maru the enemy.
I think you're thinking of rapid? That dude drove me nuts.
NoRegret is awesome for not actually being a full time caster. People don't seem to understand this fact.
잔스터 인터뷰 재밋는데
Why did he not just make brood lords and corruptors with infestor support. would that not have been an easy win?
Damn Zanster just looks so good in game 1. I mean I kinda feel him because, just as he said he's doing not as good on the ladder and suddenly got invited, it must have been some great joy. He's just walking in with no psychological pressure whatsoever and have his share of fun.
Also I gotta say I love how logical the European players play. They don't hesitate to throw down spine and spore just for precaution and they go ling bane hydra against the raven ghost just for the sake of the lings being good against ghosts. A lot of time you just see Korean zerg massed and viper broodlords cuz they just can't think of anything (Soo for example)
Really nice work by Zanster, wasn't expecting such a challenge for Maru
Noregrets was also decent but talked over Artosis constantly with no filter. A lot of comments were just what a player should or shouldnt do as backseat gaming but for both guys i think it's a matter of experience.
Zanster's decision making and strategy failed him but with time he could get to be real scary
Attack move is protoss strategy too
oh jake? why are he there?
A guess after Blizzcon - Special is the best Terran right now!
Should starcraft 2 games just end with a default lose for zerg after the 15 min mark? What's the point of watching zerg vs carriers and ravens if the zerg race is literally designed to only win 200 food fights with overwhelming resource advantages that would allow them to trade super inefficiently against superior protoss and terran armies?
WHERE'S TASTELESSSSS
Hugo Wong-Berard beating his own meat
I hope he never come back. NoRegret made a great comentary
Can you both please comment more objectively, instead of commenting everything from Zanster's point of view? The Zanster bias is very obvious here, and it's very unprofessional of casters to actively support one player over another - especially casters for an official channel/organisation. Is it because you all identify with Zanster, probably because he is a "foreigner" (and likely of the same race as you)?
Well, probably yes - and so what? Why the fuck you guys always end up with some "races issue" shit? It's totally OK for a non-Korean casters to support a new player, who is making great against one of the best Terrans in the world. Same situation with almost every Korean vs Foreigner match ups, it's natural to support a catching up side.
The casters are supposed to, you know, just CAST. There's no need for them to take sides, especially when they're casting through an organization.
Maru is pretty heavily favored in this match. It's pretty normal for casters to try and hype up underdogs and be heavy with applause when they do anything noteworthy. If it has anything to with Foreign vs Korean, then it's because foreigners suck in comparison, thus again, an underdog thing and not a race thing.
Because obviously maru is favored. It would be hype if zanster could scratch a game off him :/
Chris Hemsworth is Thor from The Avengers and other Marvel movies.
Dude this guys voice is so bad. "Actually" "For sure"
와 첫경기 진짜 피튀기게 싸우내여
"Who is Chris Hemsworth? I have no idea, We're a bunch of nerds. He must be a football player"
🤣 meanwhile, nerds are watching ALL 8 Thor/Avenger movies, apparently paying no attention to the cast.
Chris is legit one the most famous and highest paid actors in the world. 🇦🇺👌🏽
Best commentators combo
The other guy is very good cuz he is tehnical about it
The thing I love about NoRegret is that he's actually brains behind Scarlett and Neeb's success. He may not be one of the best players but he's proven himself to be one of the best coaches. In fact the Scarlett's builds are designed under the tutelage of NoRegret. When Neeb won his premier Korean tournament he stayed at Scarlet and NoRegret's gaming house.
mystirboy i didn t know who he was i just like the balance .
Also the fact that a player can learn alot
And know better what s going on in the match
So i like these two togheter
mystirboy didn t know that btw
Very nice
Seems like a good coach
No, horrible biased commentators. Both of them aren't objective and are commenting from Zanster's point of view - e.g. commenting "Nice move by Zanster", "That sucks for Zanster", instead of the corresponding "This is bad for Maru", "That's good for Maru" for the same situation. There's a lot of Zanster-sympathy from the commentators and not enough credit being given to Maru, when Maru is clearly the better player apart from a few slip-ups.
John Smith lol
Of course they r zanster fans
N no , they gave maru lots of credit
U didn t get it
They praised the fact that zanster managed that
While maru is maru
Lol
U didn t get it
Oh Zanster is good, this is good for Zanster, I think Zanster is in good position here, Zanster did that perfectly, that went good for Zanster... I mean cmmon guys. Cant you just play objective?
Agree. It's very unprofessional of casters to support one player over another, be it because he's the underdog, or because he's a "foreigner" (or maybe even because he's of the same race as the casters) in SC2 terms.
Pretty funny when Zanster was getting his butt kicked and they were still praising him.
If you had objective casters, then this whole thing would be "well, we're just gonna sit here and wait for Maru to win. He's gonna win this unless he falls asleep." Instead, the casters try to hype anything the underdog does that even slightly good. Even in their comments for Zanster there is acknowledgement of Maru's skill when they say things like "Zansters creep spread is really nice especially against Maru who is typically attacking everywhere and destroying people"
Micheal Corser Objective =/= Emotionless.
Just look at Tastosis casting, that's a perfect example of casters who are full of emotion and try their best to be objective. I really don't think it's a "cheering for the underdog" thing because you don't see this level of bias from NoRegret in other games like Maru vs Dear.
I don't get why people have this idea that you can't be objective and full of emotion at the same time, it's not mutually exclusive.
hi: every time maru plays, blizzard nerfs Terran. Fuck you Bilzzerdard
There's always way more comments about the casters than the actual games themselves. Lmao. And I personally didn't mind them praising Zanster the whole match. I mean, he's up against the defending champ and actually held him well until very late game both times. Great games and good casting.
who is Chris Hemsworth haha "we're a couple of nerds"... not marvel nerds i gather XD fkn love the casting of this game
no regret was great hope to see more of him
Really good game
It's not that Zanster were that good, it was only because Maru's games are all over the place, they can research those for his benefits, while Zanster's games...welp, not so much. Btw, Maru also starts from bottom, hes not immediately this good, I remember when Maru were still a new comer in GSL, back when Flash and Innovation were still reigns over Terran. But I see Maru has adaptive nature that both Flash and Innovation doesn't, probably since he is a new breed and SC Broodwar doesn't affects him much.
저그 진짜 완벽하게 잘한다 라고 생각하면서 봤는데 왜 저그가 지는거냐.. 어떻게 저걸 뚫지? 저그가 할수있는걸 베스트로 다해도 조성주가 실수하지않으면 못이긴다.. 땅굴을 활용하면 더 좋을것같긴했다.
Bob Ross perm sighted
nice job noregret good caster fire tasteless (jk)
This is the highest level of commentary I have seen in gsl. Change tasteless for someone who actually knows the game and what happens...
Well, I´m no doctor but what the comments are suffering from seems to be bitchy Maru fanboys. NoRegret did a good job casting and I appreciate the technical inside. Also, Zanster played two great games.
Zanster still a BEGINNER.
After the game, his face looks VERY DESPERATE.
next time, dont look down on Asian. Hehe
Man commentary and game observer suck 53:26 zerg begins to lose workers from 5 to 15 but they didn't care
/shrugs mistakes happen. Although this was a little surprising
actually this dude needs to stop saying actually
ackualely
Yeah that actually reminds me of youtube's comment section.
Jo Han and like
Actually, for sure, like, if he hadn't taken all that damage he would be like, legit ahead. But these are fine trades, good trades for sure actually. Actually, for sure.
Minuschicken middle school called, they want their caster back lol
Lol Bunny wants to be born as Chris Hemsworth XD
i ejoyed this series. good job NoRegret
I hate the dudes voice who isn't artosis.
근데 나는 진균이 다시 속박으로 버프되야 한다고 보는게
도저히 뭉쳐있는 밤까,유령을 뚫어낼 방법이 없음
대치 반대쪽으로 병력 돌린다치면 행요 하나씩 버티고 있고
I hate this dude's casting, he isn't neutral at all, he is constantly complimenting the zerg player and being disappoineted when zanster has something go wrong. either he likes zanster too much or he always roots for zerg. Foolish.
Wait a second, was he wearing a Carhart beanie? No way... Where I'm from Carhart is a way of life... In New England, Carhart is the only clothing that u actually get your moneys worth out of, respect for repping THAT Dear!!
P.S. I don't like seeing one caster poop on the other, under any circumstances...
GG NO RE
noregret casting (considering he just started doing it here) is million times enjoyable than tasteless - even if cheering 4 zanster - helps to get a feel in his situation - against maru...come on, its fun - also this way artosis is balanced back to focus to actual game, not memories or go total offtopic for a minute as he does with tasteless - for me that was big turn down recently - but all is subjective...have fun!
gg & gg!
I find the offtopic stuff really fun and enjoyable. The way I see it, I'd like to have a whole spectrum of "types" of casters/caster duos. It's important to have ultra-technical casters in the community as well as casters who are just fun and spontaneous. Seeing as the majority of casters don't follow the tastosis style, I'm really glad that they exist
nitroyetevn cool, thanks for sharing. Its actually great that all kinds of people can enjoy these from various reasons. And fun fact - just watching one, sOs vs Life, Blizzcon 2015 finals - Tastosis do my kind of cast - being on current point, explaining, no offtopic, no stories - very cool :) anyway, have a nice day!
ZANSTER PLAY GREAT,BUT T OP
maru op, not T
Terran OP!
편파 오지네 ㅉㅉ 듣기 불편할 정도다
terran impossible to kill, only need 3 bases lol.
This series could've been epic. Instead, it became a shit show due to Artosis and Noregret being biased as hell. Everytime there is a foreigner I'm just gonna tune in to the Korean stream