Great video showing the advantages and disadvantages with the two ive been looking at both mechines and the tipping point and lift capability is a big factor thanks for the video
Good video thanks. You said you would take CAT over ASV. But it looked like the ASV was more powerful when mulching the log head to head. You mention the balance on the ASV was a problem. If you put some rear weights on the ASV, would you still prefer the CAT? Reasons? Thanks for any help!
ASV has subpar build quality in comparison with Cat. I’ve got both myself. I’d also take the Cat any day over the ASV. The cab and ride of the Cat is unbeatable. The vertical lift of the 299 vs the radial lift arms on the 120 is a definite advantage as well. I just wish Cat would up the power and pressures to match or exceed the ASV. The dealer support with Caterpillar far exceeds the minuscule ASV dealer network.Btw... just put a 5’ head on the 299 and problem solved with the power : )
@jkgpr honestly I think that comment alone just cleared up like 4 months of agonizing between a Cat 299, ASV RT-120, and a Tak 12!!! Look like its gonna be a Cat - and I love that ASV on a test drive but you make all valid points, looks like the smart money goes with the lower power smoother runner. But yea, definitely could use a true 110-120hp with a hi flow that doesnt max out at like 40!!
I would get rid of the asv and get a bigger wheel loader style mulcher like a barko 930. If I had to buy another skid steer mulcher. It would be a cat 299 all day
I run a terex pt 110 forestry with a fecon head and a 60 inch diamond and it will handle them no problem what did thay change on the new asv rt120 to make it so tipsy been looking at the new asv as an upgrade any thoughts would be helpful Thank's xtreme mulching land clearing.
could the ASV be more unstable solely because it has a larger engine? centrifigul force and all that? I am sure design has a lot to do with it but to me it seems to make a lot of sense
what i see is the guy on the ASV is always raising his mulcher too high when he moves forward and backward so it is definitely the operator, the guy on the Cat does not raise the mulcher so high so he takes longer and ASV has more clearance as well.
Ha ha I wouldn't pay them to operate for me lol, In saying that I am so sick of spending the time and money training people and they leave for so called greener pastures . Thinking I might as well sell most of it and keep just enough for myself employed
Stability Problem? Operator needs to be more subtle on sticks, Mulching head is nearly stalling as it plows into log, wasting a lot of time pushing into fallen tree from side and not mulching it. Yeah he got the job done but it wasn't pretty. 5/10
@@NakedDave100 no but you’ve clearly never trained an operator to mulch, it is very time consuming and honestly quite a headache but it is just in time
@@NakedDave100 what ever you wanna say. That's my opinion you said yours. U like cat I like cat but asv is way superior forestry machine . Not wallet talk .
Great video showing the advantages and disadvantages with the two ive been looking at both mechines and the tipping point and lift capability is a big factor thanks for the video
Thanks, that was helpful
Good videos. Don't listen to the negative comments, those people dont matter. Keep up the nice content!
That ASV's an absolute weapon
As an ASV owner I agree, it’s like riding a bull if the attachment is too heavy.
Someone that actually knows what they’re talking about
Good video thanks. You said you would take CAT over ASV. But it looked like the ASV was more powerful when mulching the log head to head. You mention the balance on the ASV was a problem. If you put some rear weights on the ASV, would you still prefer the CAT? Reasons?
Thanks for any help!
ASV has subpar build quality in comparison with Cat. I’ve got both myself. I’d also take the Cat any day over the ASV. The cab and ride of the Cat is unbeatable. The vertical lift of the 299 vs the radial lift arms on the 120 is a definite advantage as well. I just wish Cat would up the power and pressures to match or exceed the ASV. The dealer support with Caterpillar far exceeds the minuscule ASV dealer network.Btw... just put a 5’ head on the 299 and problem solved with the power : )
@jkgpr honestly I think that comment alone just cleared up like 4 months of agonizing between a Cat 299, ASV RT-120, and a Tak 12!!! Look like its gonna be a Cat - and I love that ASV on a test drive but you make all valid points, looks like the smart money goes with the lower power smoother runner. But yea, definitely could use a true 110-120hp with a hi flow that doesnt max out at like 40!!
5’ head is what you recommend? I’m about to purchase one of these. Thank you!
JKgpr its all good buddy, you're the smart buyer the others are talking with their wallets!!
This price on these things is staggering. But very impressive.
Good personality
I would wager a couple inches longer wheelebase on the ASV would go a long way towards stability
Could you add a extra counterweight on the asv?
What about the stumps leaving them,, now the'll be hard to find covered up with mulch , guess customer dosent care,, A S V needs longer track frame
The asv speed is insane and track is better to my understanding but CAT is a huge company and got good things too but for forestry I wouls go with ASV
So if you had to pick one; what would it be? Would you buy either one again or go with something else? Thanks, appreciate the video.
I would get rid of the asv and get a bigger wheel loader style mulcher like a barko 930. If I had to buy another skid steer mulcher. It would be a cat 299 all day
@@winscolandclearing awesome, appreciate the input. Take care, have a great day man!
I run a terex pt 110 forestry with a fecon head and a 60 inch diamond and it will handle them no problem what did thay change on the new asv rt120 to make it so tipsy been looking at the new asv as an upgrade any thoughts would be helpful Thank's xtreme mulching land clearing.
could the ASV be more unstable solely because it has a larger engine? centrifigul force and all that? I am sure design has a lot to do with it but to me it seems to make a lot of sense
its the tracks
What happened to the lamtrac? Did you like it?
@Winsco Land Clearing LLC thanks for the videos! I'm curious about the Lamtrac also? Do you still have it? How did it compare to the CAT and ASV?
what i see is the guy on the ASV is always raising his mulcher too high when he moves forward and backward so it is definitely the operator, the guy on the Cat does not raise the mulcher so high so he takes longer and ASV has more clearance as well.
Is your new 299d3 more comparable to asv 120 or same as D2 ?
Basically the same as the old D2 same HP etc
@@winscolandclearing does asv have more noticiable power ?
Ha ha I wouldn't pay them to operate for me lol, In saying that I am so sick of spending the time and money training people and they leave for so called greener pastures . Thinking I might as well sell most of it and keep just enough for myself employed
The ASV was on the top end the Cat was on the trunk end. Unfair comparison
drive sprocket parts on the asv, 500, drive sprocket parts on the cat, 1
i wonder if a diamond mower might be a better match for the cat, assuming you dont get into too large of timber for the mower.
The Cat just needs a 5’ head instead of the 6’. ASV is the only factory machine that truly runs a 6’ head efficiently.
Stability Problem? Operator needs to be more subtle on sticks, Mulching head is nearly stalling as it plows into log, wasting a lot of time pushing into fallen tree from side and not mulching it. Yeah he got the job done but it wasn't pretty. 5/10
ASV RT 120
Cat going to work
Having seen countless times what can be thrown in front and behind the machine, it just makes me nervous how close you’re getting to the debris.
Right😁😁
Bad mouthing the viewers might not be a good idea....just saying.
In experience operators don’t help either I run a 299 everyday mulching and these guys would give me a fuckin headache
I take it you were born an experienced operator???
@@NakedDave100 no but you’ve clearly never trained an operator to mulch, it is very time consuming and honestly quite a headache but it is just in time
Are they wearing the same teeth?
Yes same knives on both. From romec
@@winscolandclearing I see, Rowmec the brand.
That's no shit about getting sea sick in the ASV ran one for about 30min ruined the rest of my day
slow down bud
The CAT looks "broken" when compared with the ASV.
@rustytr Whats wrong with brand loyalty, you have your opinion on superior machines, ASV is not mine for sure!!
I personally have an asv and it’s weight and hp is far superior than cat 299 I rented several times before buying
@rustytr Your opinion!!
Another wallet talking!!
@@NakedDave100 what ever you wanna say. That's my opinion you said yours.
U like cat I like cat but asv is way superior forestry machine .
Not wallet talk .
Asv cant keep its ass on the ground