From a strait technical point of view, the NES version looks rally really impressive for the hardware. And at some later levels I think the SNES shows some of the best graphics, its just not arcade faithful. However of the faithful ports the Dos one is by far the better if your computer could run the extended modes in 1991
I used to see this in the magazines as an advert for the SNES version and remember loving the colourful graphics. All the versions have a lot of differences between them but one I always go back to the SNES even though these days we have the option to play the Arcade version directly. That said it's worth a play whatever console you have I think they did well to port the game according to the strengths of the platform they ported it to.
Another case where all the ports have something about them that makes them decent. The Mega Drive, PC/DOS and Amiga versions are fairly close to the original arcade version (with the Mega Drive version's music getting nicely arranged by the prolific Matt Furniss of Krysalis Software), the SNES version has some extra playable sections and a map, the NES version boasts parallax scrolling, and the Game Boy version is one of the first games on the handheld to use DPCM samples to emulate voices (a feature hardly ever used in Game Boy games, having only been heard in a handful of other games like Taz-Mania 2 and Pokémon Yellow).
Oh yes, I waited for a video about this video game and it's ports. :) There is a compalition for Steam/GoG where you can play the arcade version of Joe & Mac.
@@joshi_6887 Really, you say something logical that I should use a separate emulator to run arcade games. But there are so many Mame game Roms on the Internet that it’s pretty hard for me to pick well.
@@csikocska well... ummm.... i don't have a specific recommendation, but MAME is standardized. How is it standardized you might ask??? well roms for mame have specific names, that are very short : example for donkey kong, japanese set : dkongj. Sure, there are many different roms of the same game, because there are different versions for each region (called sets) and revisions for each region... it gets confusing, but when you open your mame, look for the game you want, find its name accordingly, and search that name along with some other keyword such as "rom", "download" or something else. Just make sure to go on safe sites or known good rom sites. I don't know if you already knew all of this or I'm learning you something, but i found it interesting to mention it here.
Opinions: Arcade: It's impressive for the time, and it's sounds could beat the SNES any day (Unless you count Plok) DOS: It has good graphics, and the dino actually wakes up in this port. Unfortunately, it sounds like Joe's club hit the sound drivers. SNES: It's anything but arcade perfect, but on the plus side, arcade players playing this version will get something new out of Joe and Mac. Amiga: The sounds are impressive for 1990's home computer standards, but the most of the graphics make it look like an NES port. NES: The intro takes very long, but the graphics are rather impressive for NES standards, and it uses voice samples. But the level layouts are different, and the 1st boss is smaller than the 1st boss from other ports. GB: At least you can take NES Joe and Mac on the go, and it uses voice samples, and the boss is the same as other ports. Genesis: It's arcade-perfect, aside from the sounds, and the dino not waking up. It also uses voice samples.
The SNES version looked fantastic in later levels. Really clean and colorful. It just had some of the mature content somewhat trimmed lol. Dos version with its higher resolution looked amazing though if the computer could run it.
I'm biased since I had the SNES version growing up. But I figured I would check this out to see the other versions. After watching this, though I'm confident the SNES was the better option. It does lose out on the charge shot from what I can see. However it looks like it was the version that brought in the boomerang and fire shots. The world map option, music renditions as well as sound effects on everything were more varied, unique and better quality. I will say though that the Genesis version's colors seemed to pop a bit more at least on the intro screen.
Hola amigo muchas gracias, gracias a este video he quedado encantado en saber como se ve cada version aunque no se cual quedarme si con la de arcade, Mega Drive , o SNES cual me recomiendas. a por cierto la de SNES esta en español
The Gameboy is incredibly impressive and thorough given the limitations. Beautiful parallax on the NES. The Amiga is almost good but killed by the low frame rate.
DOS port is outstanding for 1991. However it required high-end hardware from that time. In 1991 most developers targeted 286 with EGA cards and even single layered background with smooth scrolling was impressive. For this game you needed at least fast 386 PC which wasn't cheap in 1991 and game still was a bit sluggish. 486 was needed for full speed, but in that time getting real arcade cabinet should cost less. Amiga port is very good for an arcade game. It even has cloud parallax and a bit of COPPER gradient with sky. It could be better, but compared to mostly awful arcade ports Amiga got it's quite good.
@@Leeki85 Yeah, agree. Amiga port is not bad, just some inadequacies are clearly visible in comparison to DOS and arcade. With some more Copper involvement, Amiga can display 100 or more colours, so it could have been better.
The arcade version, while not well-recieved at first, remains a classic. The Genesis port, along with the DOS version (with it's mediocre Adlib music), remains very close to the arcade game and so far it's one of the only ways to bring the arcade game home. That alongside the SNES version, which is longer and was considered to be the best version of the arcade game so far.
A spent very good time on the Amiga version of this game. A very nice surprise compared to lot of other arcade conversions on Western computers. You can even play using a Megadrive controller with a second button to jump. Game offers 50fps scrolling, almost all the content of the original arcade despite some parts missing near the end of the game, sadly because of lack of time in development I suppose. Graphics are a bit rubbish and some more tests in terms of gameplay would have been grateful. But in the end, lot of good time despite these flaws.
Weird ports, the most faithful version is the DOS Version (which is weird because the most faithful would usually be found on the consoles), the worst is the nes version. But the SNES version blows everything out of the water (it’s not just a port, it’s a different game altogether with new levels, and expended gameplay).
As the taking the compete to Toki aka Juju Legend, How DECO/Data East porting Caveman Ninja into home ports (renamed to Joe & Mac globally) with arcade-accurate, however NES & Game Boy version is the least-accurate because nothing comparison and SFC/SNES version is the only extra.
Seems that the SNES version is the most complete as a game. I didn’t know the SNES version was so different, but I’m glad it was because there is great level design in that game, not just a ton of enemies that don’t pose a threat.
The game perfectly works on any Amiga with at least 1Mb RAM, whether it's only ChipRAM or 512Kb ChipRAM + additional FastRAM. Yes, there is a sticker on the box that indicates that the game works on A500+ and A600... but not only. The objective was to reassure the owners of these machines. Indeed, many games did not work on it because they only had ChipRAM or because of a compatibility problem with Kickstart 2.0. At the time I had an A600 and this is that sticker that decided me to buy the game 😉 But I made a test on an A500 with just a 512Kb expansion board and it works well.
SEGA Mega Drive/Genesis = 9 bit RGB of colour = Max colours on Screen is 64 = Total colour palette is 512. Super Nintendo Entertainment System = 15 bit RGB of colour = Max colours on Screen is 256 = Total colour palette is 32,768.
@@MagisterHamid indeed, even the SEGA Game Gear (an 8-bit handheld) has more colour (12 bit RGB of colour) than the mega drive. Now that's somewhat embarrassing.
@@noaht2005 yeah me too until I did my research and began to understand why Sega Mega Drive was so much darker down Super Nintendo in various games. Though there are some games on the SEGA Mega Drive that has high contrast and better saturation than the SNES because of the dark colours it has and this game just isn't one of them.
From a strait technical point of view, the NES version looks rally really impressive for the hardware. And at some later levels I think the SNES shows some of the best graphics, its just not arcade faithful. However of the faithful ports the Dos one is by far the better if your computer could run the extended modes in 1991
@Diskun It has been almost that long since I ran it, but I think it can support vesa modes at 8 bit color.
@Diskun It doesn't support CGA, that's for sure lmao
@Diskun vga is the highest res and color mode but it does support basic sound blaster and most importantly roland mt32 and compatibles
I used to see this in the magazines as an advert for the SNES version and remember loving the colourful graphics.
All the versions have a lot of differences between them but one I always go back to the SNES even though these days we have the option to play the Arcade version directly.
That said it's worth a play whatever console you have I think they did well to port the game according to the strengths of the platform they ported it to.
8:57 mario 16
Arcade and Genesis
Genesis
La versión de snes es probablemente un "bonus port", por que no se juega igual que el resto de los ports de consola
igual que el Toki del Sega Genesis
I wish they released a port on the GBA too
why didn’t they?
Me encanta tu canal, muy buena producción de vídeo. Las comparativas, buenísimas. ¡Ánimo y saludos desde Barcelona!
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Las versiones de dos, game boy y sobretodo la de génesis son las mejores…
Another case where all the ports have something about them that makes them decent. The Mega Drive, PC/DOS and Amiga versions are fairly close to the original arcade version (with the Mega Drive version's music getting nicely arranged by the prolific Matt Furniss of Krysalis Software), the SNES version has some extra playable sections and a map, the NES version boasts parallax scrolling, and the Game Boy version is one of the first games on the handheld to use DPCM samples to emulate voices (a feature hardly ever used in Game Boy games, having only been heard in a handful of other games like Taz-Mania 2 and Pokémon Yellow).
Oh yes, I waited for a video about this video game and it's ports. :)
There is a compalition for Steam/GoG where you can play the arcade version of Joe & Mac.
I’d rather use MAME if your steam version is just emulation!
@@joshi_6887
Really, you say something logical that I should use a separate emulator to run arcade games.
But there are so many Mame game Roms on the Internet that it’s pretty hard for me to pick well.
@@csikocska well... ummm.... i don't have a specific recommendation, but MAME is standardized. How is it standardized you might ask??? well roms for mame have specific names, that are very short : example for donkey kong, japanese set : dkongj.
Sure, there are many different roms of the same game, because there are different versions for each region (called sets) and revisions for each region... it gets confusing, but when you open your mame, look for the game you want, find its name accordingly, and search that name along with some other keyword such as "rom", "download" or something else. Just make sure to go on safe sites or known good rom sites. I don't know if you already knew all of this or I'm learning you something, but i found it interesting to mention it here.
I like how the PC-DOS, Genesis, & Gameboy versions kept the intro
The NES and Genesis versions move so smoothly.
Mario 16
Opinions:
Arcade: It's impressive for the time, and it's sounds could beat the SNES any day (Unless you count Plok)
DOS: It has good graphics, and the dino actually wakes up in this port. Unfortunately, it sounds like Joe's club hit the sound drivers.
SNES: It's anything but arcade perfect, but on the plus side, arcade players playing this version will get something new out of Joe and Mac.
Amiga: The sounds are impressive for 1990's home computer standards, but the most of the graphics make it look like an NES port.
NES: The intro takes very long, but the graphics are rather impressive for NES standards, and it uses voice samples. But the level layouts are different, and the 1st boss is smaller than the 1st boss from other ports.
GB: At least you can take NES Joe and Mac on the go, and it uses voice samples, and the boss is the same as other ports.
Genesis: It's arcade-perfect, aside from the sounds, and the dino not waking up. It also uses voice samples.
Try doing the James Pond 2 ports pls!!
@mrelasticband well yes.
the game creeps me out for no reason
Had the SNES and PC DOS ports back in the day and imo the PC DOS is the best.
The SNES version looked fantastic in later levels. Really clean and colorful. It just had some of the mature content somewhat trimmed lol. Dos version with its higher resolution looked amazing though if the computer could run it.
@@wishusknight3009 DOS port needed at least 1 MB of RAM to run if I remember...
@@davidfernandezsabio3844 could you be thinking of the Amiga port (version) it needed a Mb or MB of RAM?
@@jasonlee7816 I am talking about the DOS port.No idea about the Amiga.
To this day my phone alarm is the SNES boss encounter theme. Such a classic.
Genesis and MS-DOS versions are pretty much faithful for the arcade version than the SNES and NES versions
10:48 that face is the stuff of nightmares
I'm biased since I had the SNES version growing up. But I figured I would check this out to see the other versions. After watching this, though I'm confident the SNES was the better option. It does lose out on the charge shot from what I can see. However it looks like it was the version that brought in the boomerang and fire shots. The world map option, music renditions as well as sound effects on everything were more varied, unique and better quality. I will say though that the Genesis version's colors seemed to pop a bit more at least on the intro screen.
Hola amigo muchas gracias, gracias a este video he quedado encantado en saber como se ve cada version aunque no se cual quedarme si con la de arcade, Mega Drive , o SNES cual me recomiendas. a por cierto la de SNES esta en español
Wow this is nostalgic:c
The gameboy version was a more accurate depiction than the NES.
You missed the Zeebo port from 2010 by the spanish from Onan Games...
Love these comparison videos. Great video :)
A versão do Mega Drive é o melhor port no videogame caseiro, a do SNES parece até outro game.
Sim, a de mega e arcade são as melhores!!
e ms dos tambem
The Gameboy is incredibly impressive and thorough given the limitations. Beautiful parallax on the NES. The Amiga is almost good but killed by the low frame rate.
The Amiga version perfecly works in 60hz, making it faster, smoother and in vertical fullscreen 😉
Fact: European version of caveman ninja snes start with Elite system logo
They made for sure the Amiga version, could have distributed the other versions in Europe as well.
What I want is a version that has both final bosses (lizard man and devil), with the SNES palette, but the Genesis gameplay.
Amigo yo puedo hacer una :)
Low colour count on Amiga is clearly visible here, in comparison to DOS and arcade. Also, missing the mountains parallax layer.
DOS port is outstanding for 1991. However it required high-end hardware from that time. In 1991 most developers targeted 286 with EGA cards and even single layered background with smooth scrolling was impressive. For this game you needed at least fast 386 PC which wasn't cheap in 1991 and game still was a bit sluggish. 486 was needed for full speed, but in that time getting real arcade cabinet should cost less.
Amiga port is very good for an arcade game. It even has cloud parallax and a bit of COPPER gradient with sky. It could be better, but compared to mostly awful arcade ports Amiga got it's quite good.
@@Leeki85 Yeah, agree. Amiga port is not bad, just some inadequacies are clearly visible in comparison to DOS and arcade. With some more Copper involvement, Amiga can display 100 or more colours, so it could have been better.
PC is the only version where the sleeping TRex wakes up.. Lol. (Eye opens)
The arcade version, while not well-recieved at first, remains a classic.
The Genesis port, along with the DOS version (with it's mediocre Adlib music), remains very close to the arcade game and so far it's one of the only ways to bring the arcade game home. That alongside the SNES version, which is longer and was considered to be the best version of the arcade game so far.
Too bad the dos one supports roland mt32
A spent very good time on the Amiga version of this game. A very nice surprise compared to lot of other arcade conversions on Western computers. You can even play using a Megadrive controller with a second button to jump. Game offers 50fps scrolling, almost all the content of the original arcade despite some parts missing near the end of the game, sadly because of lack of time in development I suppose. Graphics are a bit rubbish and some more tests in terms of gameplay would have been grateful. But in the end, lot of good time despite these flaws.
este juego en particular TODAS...Saludos
A versão do Mega Drive ficou muito boa
The DOS port looks decent on the gameplay part, but the sound. O_o Also, you can collect a little Chelnov for points in that version?
La verdad es que la primera aparición no fue en 1991 fue en 1988 de patinetas ya que mi papá jugaba eso con fichas
My favorite version is Joe and Mac snes
El arcade ¡soberbio! y el port de SNES, muy bueno.
Fun fact: the genesis port has got a darker palette
Arcade, obvio, y luego la de DOS y megadrive.
8:57 How Mario 16 is born
Mi versión favorita de Joe y Mac es el del Super Nintendo
Weird ports, the most faithful version is the DOS Version (which is weird because the most faithful would usually be found on the consoles), the worst is the nes version. But the SNES version blows everything out of the water (it’s not just a port, it’s a different game altogether with new levels, and expended gameplay).
As the taking the compete to Toki aka Juju Legend, How DECO/Data East porting Caveman Ninja into home ports (renamed to Joe & Mac globally) with arcade-accurate, however NES & Game Boy version is the least-accurate because nothing comparison and SFC/SNES version is the only extra.
2:57 Regular show
Seems that the SNES version is the most complete as a game. I didn’t know the SNES version was so different, but I’m glad it was because there is great level design in that game, not just a ton of enemies that don’t pose a threat.
Este juego era muy divertido. Lo único que me molestaba era que tenías que estar tragando todo el rato para que no se te bajara la vida.
Amiga Joe & Mac needs a Mb or MB of RAM and it only works with A500 plus or A600
The game perfectly works on any Amiga with at least 1Mb RAM, whether it's only ChipRAM or 512Kb ChipRAM + additional FastRAM. Yes, there is a sticker on the box that indicates that the game works on A500+ and A600... but not only. The objective was to reassure the owners of these machines. Indeed, many games did not work on it because they only had ChipRAM or because of a compatibility problem with Kickstart 2.0. At the time I had an A600 and this is that sticker that decided me to buy the game 😉 But I made a test on an A500 with just a 512Kb expansion board and it works well.
La mejor versión de todas es el ultimo remake 2022. 👍🏻
The game
Boy vershion isso my faivorite
A versão do genesis e fiel ao arcade!
SNES version even though it has less animations. I prefer it because of the boss music, and unique final boss.
Boss music is better in Arcade
SNES version takes it all.
And Where is Joe & Mac 2?
Too bad there’s no Atari ST port for amiga.
Mega drives lack of colours really shows here
SEGA Mega Drive/Genesis = 9 bit RGB of colour = Max colours on Screen is 64 = Total colour palette is 512.
Super Nintendo Entertainment System = 15 bit RGB of colour = Max colours on Screen is 256 = Total colour palette is 32,768.
@@blackgreece2702 yeah and it shows
@@MagisterHamid indeed, even the SEGA Game Gear (an 8-bit handheld) has more colour (12 bit RGB of colour) than the mega drive. Now that's somewhat embarrassing.
@@blackgreece2702 I never realised it was that bad
@@noaht2005 yeah me too until I did my research and began to understand why Sega Mega Drive was so much darker down Super Nintendo in various games. Though there are some games on the SEGA Mega Drive that has high contrast and better saturation than the SNES because of the dark colours it has and this game just isn't one of them.
The Amiga version is probably the worst looking among the 16 bit ones, yet compared to other arcade conversions to the Amiga it is quite good..
@Diskun yes, one of the rare Amiga games with more than one button. Eventho the option screen for selecting it looks like ass!
@Diskun it might be that the option is there but the convoluted menu doesn't make it clear
Super nes win.
have a zeebo version too xddd
Remake for 2022 un switch
That opening sequence with the women being kidnapped aged terribly. Truly prehistoric.
Mega Drive it's more close gameplay.
SNES Sucks!!!!, Arcade Is The Best!!!