@@thefreedomguyuk more like the "freedom" guy from Belarus, your videos are Danish but your profile pic is not you? weirdo, combat vet with brain damage i guess
That’s because the Russians don’t retreat. They push and push and push with enormous losses until everything is so weakened that it’s an unplanned rout with everyone running around like headless chickens. They reslly don’t do these small tactical retreats.
@desert_holly Really need drones that shoot and come back. Drones that hide till over run by flanking then do the damage. Tobrok units that wait. A bit like Vietnam.
I recon he means man power wise, it's an impressive feat, a fully automated successful assault but text book says you should still have men sweep in after, to search, clear and hold the ground youv just won but who knows we're seeing a new face of warfare unfold and the Ukrainians might have found a sweet stop where they can assault on all fronts and sweep in after.
I'm a 71 yr old retired vetran. I never concidered donating like this before this war. 2 years and many small donations later, i'm thinking i can keep this up till Russia throws in the towel!
lol....hilarious...Russia throw in a towel? I don't know what cave you live in but Russians are not calling for a ceasefire or to end the war but the US and EU are. Why? It's always the losing side that want to end the war.
There are even more advantages than you have mentioned. 1. Although it is a small vehicle, the gun mounted on it is significantly larger than an assault rifle, so firepower and range are much higher . 2. The vehicle can carry much more ammo compared to a human. 3. Just some light armor mounted to the front will make them unstoppable by fire from assault rifles and maybe even machine guns - which are the primary weapons at Line zero at the moment. 4. Finally drones show no fear. This has significant impact on combat tactics. E.g. you can't hold them down with cover fire when you need to change position etc.. 5. Next step, it is so logical, I am quite sure the UA is already working in it: the ground drone could be directly linked with observation drones. Those could identify the targets and transfer the coordinates directly to the fire control system of the ground drone. Such a Link of an an air born drone and a ground drone will result in a completely new, highly precise and effective weapon category.
#4 has another dimension: The drone will be at 100% accuracy regardless of return fire. Only an actual connection has the ability to reduce operational effectiveness. For humans that is an ability I assume only the most hardened of veterans can achieve. So any human soldier trying to suppress is not doing anything but giving his own position away to the approaching drone.
@@TheXasTube A scene in the first Terminator movie during the Battle of LA demonstrated this very conept. Along with the leadership of John Connor, add in new AI chip Google just put out for pattern recognition of troop movement and tactics analysis, cluster munitions and real time sattelite recon data
@@Analog-to-digital-cotinualyou need them to be autonomus at some point. Jamming will a problem such that the drones will need to finish the terminal phase
Of course, it should be remembered that the first time a tank was used in battle in September of 1916 against entrenched German lines during the Battle of Flers-Courcelette on the Somme, they proved less than impressive. Most broke down or got stuck in the mud before they reached the German lines, but they did prove proof of concept, which the British exploited at Cambai in November of 1917, breaking through German lines and pushing on some distance behind enemy lines. I suspect these ground robot machines are simply doing the same thing.
_Excellent comment. Thank you._ _People who downplay the significance of new technology because it is currently unimpressive don't seem to understand that status only applies to the present._ _Humanity went from sticks and stones to hypersonic missiles._ _We have to start somewhere. This all-drone battle is just the beginning._
probably the Germans said similar things to cope like the Russians today: look at these fools, they must be out of reinforcements if they're so desperate to keep their boys in armoured driving boxes to protect them from harm, hold the line boys... of course the Germans took notes
Ender's War? As an older person, the amount of sci-fi that is starting to become reality is cool... and a bit disturbing in some cases. At least Soylent Green isn't actually made of people - we got that right.
There was a Hugo winning short story in which a new kind of mech used by the enemy has a latency advantage and is unbeatable, and turns out to not be a drone at all- instead, has a human brain built into it.
Imagine being a north korean soldier, bearly knowing what the internet is. Then you see a death robot of doom and death rolling towards you, with a loudspeaker saying:"why are you running"
We should not miss out one important factor: It will be way easier and maybe even more effective to recruit & train new soldiers to become hightech warfare specialists instead of simple infantry soldiers for basic trench-fighting. Having this option, some of the Ukrainian men, who currently spend 100% of their energy to avoid being drafted, might reconsider their stance. Adfitionally, I think that in this type of warfare, civilian skills of many drafted soldiers (engineers, craftsmen, technicians) can provide a much higher contribution to the outcome at the battlefield.
Soldiers operating drones on the battlefield, even as proof of concept, is big. It's like the scene from the movie 'Surrogates' where a drone soldier is taken out in combat and immediately replaced. The ability to immediately replace the fighting part of a soldier while retaining the experienced meat part is a game changer.
with neural link that might become possible. Elon and his team were saying they could put a neural link in an amputee and use a limb from Optimus as the prosthetic and have the patient control the limb via Bluetooth/datalink from the neural link. Similar concept just with a limb. Controlling a whole other robot might be a whole different ball game lol.
Ukrainian drones killin NK units, were flyin around the NK troops who were shooting at the drones and killing by accident their own troops. Win, Win scenario!!
I remember 10 years ago when I wrote on a forum and UA-cam pages that having an all drone attack force to take positions would be valuable, people called me crazy. They said it was "just a fantasy" because I merely thought about it while playing video games. Man was I right...
Get a effing clue. Ukraine doesn't even do troop rotations. They don't allow withdraws, thereby allowing the Russians to form cauldron pockets where they are fully surrounded. The Ukraines should have retreated to the western side of the Dinipro a year ago. They could have dug in and formed a formidable defensive line that would be very difficult for any further Russian advance. Luckily some Ukraine units have spared themselves an early death by not obeying orders and retreating to a more advantageous position. And dragging men of the streets to fill the ranks isn't a good look. If a cause is just and the citizens believe in it, such extreme measures wouldn't be needed. Unless Nato boots are on the ground, Ukraine is a dead man walking.
Exactly. I don't see this as a negative. Of course Ukraine cannot match Russia soldier for soldier. It makes sense to find other ways of levelling the field. Plus, it preserves human lives, which is what Ukraine values.
@@delanofernandes6471US has to go through a bureaucratic process while Ukraine needs to develop technologies fast in order to get the edge on the battlefield.
BULGARIA, POLAND, and Romania are making the necessary demands for the freedom preparation ammunition! en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/KPV_heavy_machine_gun @@delanofernandes6471
@@delanofernandes6471This seems to be an ignorant and naive comment, probably by design. From what I've seen, efforts to supply these are small scale, local and online-donation based. The US taxpayer likely had little influence, and instead helps supply traditional armaments. The pentagon paying for Starlink there is one exception. Ukraine inherited a lot of expertise and knowledge from its soviet union days and there are a lot of talented people who are forgoing their futures for this.
Nah, humanoid shapes are for movies, but why replicate it? A spider configuration that can get knocked fully onto its back and just reorient its legs so that now its back is its belly would, for instance be far more useful.
Also, something to consider. Even if you completely take out the inherent value of human life..... Drone destroyed in an assault? That's data and experience gained, be it for the drone operators or a future hypothetical AI, that can also be shared and studied. Soldier destroyed in an assault? That's combat experience lost that has to be regained / relearned through further assaults.
Once drones have taken a position, that position can be 'held' simply by remote sensor drones. These can be ground based and simply need acoustic, electromagnetic and vibration sensors linked to a data connection which should be a lot cheaper and easier to maintain in situ than air drones. A remote sensor unit can then relay back to command HQ when it 'sees', 'hears' or even 'feels' the enemy approaching with far more accuracy and durability than a human observer. Combine that with motorised land drones equipped with .50 cal machine guns, small mortars and even light anti-vehicle weapons and the need for humans to be maintained and supported in forward positions is completely eliminated. In theory the drone operators could be in a bunker hundreds of mile behind the front lines, providing comms are secure enough.
Using ground and air drones to take on the most risk, then sending in soldiers afterwards to secure the area/drones is a good strategy. Not about weakness. If anything it reflects strength in innovation and resourcefulness.
Thanks for the info. Please keep it up! May the baby grow up wise, happy, and to more sane times, with international cooperation rather than drone wars.
Yeesh. This is like the old school X-Com games where you could send mini tank drones and hover drones before fielding experienced soldiers. Never would have imagined the Russians would be stand ins for sectoids.
This channel is worth its weight in gold. I am a European civilian without military training or military education. The calm and dignified presentation of very important information here allows me to assess and understand the situation and the fighting in Ukraine much better. I wish you all a peaceful Christmas.
Each drone requires an operator, so no shortage of numbers, but it means that less first hand capable combatants can be used and greater safety. Someone injured or older can now be nearly as effective as a fit frontline fighter
First of all, thank you very much for your videos and also the appeals for donations. I've been transferring money since the beginning, but this is the first time I've heard about the tax refund. It makes things so much easier and more cost-effective for everyone involved :D
It blows my mind to think about. In my 57 years, we've gone from Vietnam era warfare to today's futuristic warfare with drones and GPS guided missiles.
Thanks for your support. It all adds up. I havent donated yet but I definitely will when I get paid early January. I usually donate 30$ or 60$ too but this time might donate a little bit more 👀
What really bothers me, and im not even an american, are the unchallenged swarms of airborne drones in us cities and sensitive area's. The damage they could do...bombs, spreading all kinds of other doom😮
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Poisoning water/land etc. Probably our government but if not insane to not capture and contain them. Disable the electronics and start collecting them.
Indeed weird to say it was out of desperation, when reducing risk to able bodie people is what a military should strive for, very impressive they were able to prove that fully automated mechnaized warfare is closer then we think
How about small robot spiders that scurry across the battlefield at night with night vision and have explosives attached to them. They scurry at night into enemy trenches and as soon as they make contact with a enemy soldier they explode like the flying drones do. And in the day have the flying drones harass them from the sky. They would never feel safe anywhere.
How about small robot spiders that scurry across the battlefield at night with night vision and have explosives attached to them. They scurry at night into enemy trenches and as soon as they make contact with a enemy soldier they explode like the flying drones do.
You say the drones can't hold the line. That doesn't matter. The drones clear the line, then the soldiers move in AT NO RISK to hold the cleared line, then use the drones to clear the next line, etc, etc. Advancing without human loss is a major game changer.
Nvidia sells $200 AI accelerators, all that separates Ukraine from a solution to their manpower issues and build a robot army, is enough good training data and model training time so their AI soldier fits onto that Nvidia board…
Damn, having to face those things has to be a real nightmare. Imagine having something like that coming your way. Like how do you even handle that thing? How do you destroy it? You would need grenades or a rocket launcher or something to do it, doesn't look like bullets would be of much help against that thing. And it fires 50 cal on top of it? Pure nightmare fuel. No wonder they cleared the whole trench. Edit: I said it was no wonder 'they' cleared the whole trench, but a single one of those ground drones actually cleared an entire trench a couple months back, all by itself? Crazy stuff. That thing just went in there and took out the entire trench by itself, without anybody being able to stop it? The guy steering it must've felt like playing a rail shooter. I wonder what kind of counter the Russians will be coming up with.
I remember even before the invasion there were instances when a ukrainian hand-made turrel with a PKM on top and remote control was holding the position in Donbass. In one such instance russians could not do anything to it for two whole weeks no matter how many mortar shells/snipers fire etc they were sending. In the russian networks they were completely puzzled, wondering what a brave guy was sitting there :)
1:46 I just watched a video showing a crew of three operating one drine at a time. You still have to have people operating drones, its just that the dronesvare doing their fighting for them. WORK SMARTER NOT HARDER
Somehow it's a worrying sign they literally won with no casualties according to the author? If you can do it with just drones, just use drones, of course. "Machines break down." Holy shit, wait until this author hears about all the things that can go wrong with human beings, especially in the winter. It's top tier critical thinking that I've come to expect from a forbes contributor.
@@jenifferschmitz8618 I would argue that you can't eliminate the human cost and that automation will have no impact on whether or not war breaks out anywhere. Greed is why war breaks out. But that's a long argument to make and I'm not gonna spend time to make it on youtube.
War offensive weapons give rise to war defensive weapons or to the next offensive adaptation. What will it be EMP devices to neutralize drones? Don't know. But IMO if war makers are excited about something new.. the rest of the world should be afraid. .. ... .. Maybe it will be a factor in a getting a better peace settlement for Ukraine that most people hope comes sooner rather than later.
This is the first time in history military *ground* robots have caused direct casualties. That’s the real significance here. Did what the US military was afraid to do with a fighting force a fraction of the size. Put a gun on a ground drone and actually used it to eliminate infantry. Americans are too bound by ethics to use armed UGVs on the frontline specifically in urban combat areas despite having no issue with reapers dropping hellfires and 500lb bombs.
@ No actual combat footage of their UGVs exists so highly unlikely. Just like the SWORDS units deployed to Iraq in 2007 anytime an armed ground robot shows up in available video it’s almost always for a show of force or capability showcase. Same thing with the Russian Uran-9s deployed to Syria. They were there sure but there aren’t any recorded engagements. Of course there could be all sorts of covert operations of THeMIS rolling in and shredding entire squads to pieces but until now nothing that’s been documented.
What interesting times we are in, like the old Priest song: We've taken too much for granted And all the time it had grown From techno seeds we first planted Evolved a mind of its own Marching in the streets Dragging iron feet Laser beaming hearts Ripping men apart
The Ukraine Russia war has changed the way wars will be fought going forward. Not sure what the dogs do, but all the Ariel drones will make human ground troops almost obsolete. They will be needed to hold an area, but not take it!
I think you're right about "proof of concept" Seems to me Ukraine knows the direness of their situation, they're lacking equipment and personnel, worrying about future support etc. Hence they're "experimenting". Test ideas that seem most logical or harder to beat
This is exactly that, a prove of concept that was confirmed to give positive results. Give it a year and we may see a lot of those assaults done by drones alone. We already got fpv drones with smart anti jammer signals, so ground drones could use the same. Drones can clear a position, wait a little bit for soldiers to reach them and help hold the line and then retreat to be repair, restock and use in the next assault. As companies compete with each others to achieve lucrative contracts we'll see an improvement in this new area (similar to how fast aerial drones have improve in the last two years)
there at a point where drones are single use or build them so cheap with consumers parts or even plywood that there not even worth fixing heres a new one the economics are out the window it make no sense to invest tanks fighter aircraft disposable systems and factories to pump them out is where the dollars should go
Plus, the ground assault drone operators *survive* even if their robots are destroyed, which means they can learn from their mistakes and apply those lessons to the next drone. Plus as technology develops and designs and doctrine both are enhanced by feedback, operations are going to get better, smoother, and more dynamic. We'll see a lot more application as this gets perfected. And you can bet your boots that folks like DARPA are going to be neck-deep in this too.
I agree with your analysis. Currently, this is a PoC just to determine viability and learn vulnerabilities and shortfalls. Then they can go back and make improvements. This is all new. Tactics need to be developed. I see this as more of a force multiplier by sending several of these around to the enemy's flank to misdirect and confuse. I don't see the use of robots as a huge force multiplier right away, but in a few years, they may be. No doubt they can be used in urban warfare to assist in clearing areas among other duties.
In 1911 troops were hampered by communication systems that required a physical wire lain back to the command post. In 2030 troops will be hampered with comms systems that require the same as radio no longer works due to the sheer volume of EM radiation in the air to jam connection to drone systems.
It probably exists, but it seems to me that the best strategy would be to develop som ground drones that are equipped with some fairly large range grenades that could go up to the edges of the bunkers or trenches and drop it in there under cover from assault troops and snipers supported by some heavy machine gun drones.
Larger vehicles could be DRONE-by-Wire (fibre) laid out from the operators main hub (the operator is hidden nearby via modulated local frequencies to prevent EW at shortest ranges or fall-back optical. EW storms are going to be commonplace to scramble comms. wire in that environment reminds me of WW1 style trench warfare.
OK I do not have the benefit of your experience Paul, but it seems to me that a machine gunner in an assault situation has back up in the form of people resupplying his ammo. The robot/drone with a mounted machine gun must return to base or at least fall back to where it can be reloaded by a human when it runs out.
Your right. That reporter is either seeing it wrong, or putin is telling him what to say. NOT wasting human soldiers is genius. The drone operators get better and better the longer they are alive right? Drones are cheap compared to skilled soldiers.
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Why ? Russia is not our enemy !
(I'm a combat veteran too, just one with open eyes)
Infantry are obsolete
@@thefreedomguyuk more like the "freedom" guy from Belarus, your videos are Danish but your profile pic is not you? weirdo, combat vet with brain damage i guess
Now THAT, is cool >:)
What assurance do we have that the money donated will be going to the Ukrainian's and not your pocket???
Valuing the lives of your soldiers is never desperation.
It would appear that way to russia, who measure their success in coffins.
😂😂😂,but when Russians save lives,it's called a retreat
That’s because the Russians don’t retreat. They push and push and push with enormous losses until everything is so weakened that it’s an unplanned rout with everyone running around like headless chickens. They reslly don’t do these small tactical retreats.
@@ShadowBlack-vh5ed no retreat for RU. They shoot their own for that.
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Russia never saved lives, if they wanted to save lives, they wouldn't have invaded Ukraine in the first place.
Out of desperation? Man, they cleaned a trench without losses, that's impressive.
Very impressive
@desert_holly
Really need drones that shoot and come back.
Drones that hide till over run by flanking then do the damage.
Tobrok units that wait.
A bit like Vietnam.
Indeed, human losses
Indeed! The Forbes analyst is an idiot
I recon he means man power wise, it's an impressive feat, a fully automated successful assault but text book says you should still have men sweep in after, to search, clear and hold the ground youv just won but who knows we're seeing a new face of warfare unfold and the Ukrainians might have found a sweet stop where they can assault on all fronts and sweep in after.
I'm a 71 yr old retired vetran. I never concidered donating like this before this war. 2 years and many small donations later, i'm thinking i can keep this up till Russia throws in the towel!
71 years old and your gonna see that region collapse 2 times!
Ukraine is collapsing. Th8s robot have already Russians.
All you donations do is get people killed.
Do you even understand why the war started?
thank you for your support
lol....hilarious...Russia throw in a towel? I don't know what cave you live in but Russians are not calling for a ceasefire or to end the war but the US and EU are. Why? It's always the losing side that want to end the war.
There are even more advantages than you have mentioned.
1. Although it is a small vehicle, the gun mounted on it is significantly larger than an assault rifle, so firepower and range are much higher .
2. The vehicle can carry much more ammo compared to a human.
3. Just some light armor mounted to the front will make them unstoppable by fire from assault rifles and maybe even machine guns - which are the primary weapons at Line zero at the moment.
4. Finally drones show no fear. This has significant impact on combat tactics. E.g. you can't hold them down with cover fire when you need to change position etc..
5. Next step, it is so logical, I am quite sure the UA is already working in it: the ground drone could be directly linked with observation drones. Those could identify the targets and transfer the coordinates directly to the fire control system of the ground drone. Such a Link of an an air born drone and a ground drone will result in a completely new, highly precise and effective weapon category.
@@Lampenschlepper this exactly.
#4 is particularly terrifying.
And you can use your best operators all over the place.
#4 has another dimension:
The drone will be at 100% accuracy regardless of return fire. Only an actual connection has the ability to reduce operational effectiveness.
For humans that is an ability I assume only the most hardened of veterans can achieve.
So any human soldier trying to suppress is not doing anything but giving his own position away to the approaching drone.
@@TheXasTube A scene in the first Terminator movie during the Battle of LA demonstrated this very conept.
Along with the leadership of John Connor, add in new AI chip Google just put out for pattern recognition of troop movement and tactics analysis, cluster munitions and real time sattelite recon data
Hunter killers in the air and now terminators on the ground. Crazy times.
Just don't make them autonomous , right?..........
Not really. They're essentially like tanks planes and helicopters with remote cockpits instead of onboard ones.
@@Analog-to-digital-cotinualyou need them to be autonomus at some point. Jamming will a problem such that the drones will need to finish the terminal phase
They will need to be because of jamming@@Analog-to-digital-cotinual
@@Analog-to-digital-cotinual already are
Wow
Ukraine tries to save its soldiers lives
It's a hell of a concept
Because they don’t have any soldiers left.
Putin is scratching his head and wondering and saying,
"I don't get it. Such a strange idea to think that soldiers lives have value".
@@sageoldmann5157 They have plenty, but not as much as russia. They actually care about their soldiers.
@@sageoldmann5157you are putler’s liar and a serf.
This is great. Human lives are not replaceable, but machines are.
forever winter becomes slowly a reality
@@Sir_Sway Why 500K? Why not 500 trillion? Lol
Human lives are replaceable... I mean.
@@Sir_Swayyawn 🥱
Human lives are replacable, it just takes 18 years
Of course, it should be remembered that the first time a tank was used in battle in September of 1916 against entrenched German lines during the Battle of Flers-Courcelette on the Somme, they proved less than impressive. Most broke down or got stuck in the mud before they reached the German lines, but they did prove proof of concept, which the British exploited at Cambai in November of 1917, breaking through German lines and pushing on some distance behind enemy lines. I suspect these ground robot machines are simply doing the same thing.
_Excellent comment. Thank you._
_People who downplay the significance of new technology because it is currently unimpressive don't seem to understand that status only applies to the present._
_Humanity went from sticks and stones to hypersonic missiles._
_We have to start somewhere. This all-drone battle is just the beginning._
probably the Germans said similar things to cope like the Russians today: look at these fools, they must be out of reinforcements if they're so desperate to keep their boys in armoured driving boxes to protect them from harm, hold the line boys... of course the Germans took notes
When I was in grade school, I remember reading a story were an entire battle was conducted by robots and drones. It was Sci-Fi. Not so much now.
Ender's War? As an older person, the amount of sci-fi that is starting to become reality is cool... and a bit disturbing in some cases. At least Soylent Green isn't actually made of people - we got that right.
@@jaywhy3178 I'm an old guy too. So much of it has come to pass. As for Soylent Green we don't know yet. 😐
@@spadog63Russian meat waves..,subtle differences?
There was a Hugo winning short story in which a new kind of mech used by the enemy has a latency advantage and is unbeatable, and turns out to not be a drone at all- instead, has a human brain built into it.
@@PxThucydides Was the name of the story "Robot Dreams" or " The Bicentennial Man" ?
Imagine being a north korean soldier, bearly knowing what the internet is. Then you see a death robot of doom and death rolling towards you, with a loudspeaker saying:"why are you running"
We should not miss out one important factor:
It will be way easier and maybe even more effective to recruit & train new soldiers to become hightech warfare specialists instead of simple infantry soldiers for basic trench-fighting.
Having this option, some of the Ukrainian men, who currently spend 100% of their energy to avoid being drafted, might reconsider their stance.
Adfitionally, I think that in this type of warfare, civilian skills of many drafted soldiers (engineers, craftsmen, technicians) can provide a much higher contribution to the outcome at the battlefield.
“This is the largest droid army in the history of the republic.”
I love democracy...
Unlimited powerrrrrrr!
Begun, the Drone Wars have.
Soldiers operating drones on the battlefield, even as proof of concept, is big. It's like the scene from the movie 'Surrogates' where a drone soldier is taken out in combat and immediately replaced. The ability to immediately replace the fighting part of a soldier while retaining the experienced meat part is a game changer.
Terminator..
with neural link that might become possible. Elon and his team were saying they could put a neural link in an amputee and use a limb from Optimus as the prosthetic and have the patient control the limb via Bluetooth/datalink from the neural link. Similar concept just with a limb. Controlling a whole other robot might be a whole different ball game lol.
@@Likeaworm They could use a set of "waldos" - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remote_manipulator
Close air support just got closer. When your ground force is all drones you can risk closer support.
Ukrainian drones killin NK units, were flyin around the NK troops who were shooting at the drones and killing by accident their own troops. Win, Win scenario!!
I remember 10 years ago when I wrote on a forum and UA-cam pages that having an all drone attack force to take positions would be valuable, people called me crazy. They said it was "just a fantasy" because I merely thought about it while playing video games.
Man was I right...
Ukraine leading the way!
Or running out of soldiers
@@keatonjorgensen8793 cant both be true? :)
@@keatonjorgensen8793 russia will soon be using mobility scooters for it pensioner soldiers it now recruits.
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Course it is, some
People are
Just haters though.
@@terryharris1291 yeah Ukraine is flattened so they will be able to make a roller skating rink or amusement park out if it by the time Russia is done
That was a cheap shot, saying it was about Ukraine's lack of men. The Ukrainians value every single soldiers life.
😅🤣
Trying to make a demonstration of strength look like weakness.
Get a effing clue. Ukraine doesn't even do troop rotations. They don't allow withdraws, thereby allowing the Russians to form cauldron pockets where they are fully surrounded. The Ukraines should have retreated to the western side of the Dinipro a year ago. They could have dug in and formed a formidable defensive line that would be very difficult for any further Russian advance. Luckily some Ukraine units have spared themselves an early death by not obeying orders and retreating to a more advantageous position. And dragging men of the streets to fill the ranks isn't a good look. If a cause is just and the citizens believe in it, such extreme measures wouldn't be needed. Unless Nato boots are on the ground, Ukraine is a dead man walking.
@@josephkoval8275hold on, yea it’s just an opinion on ur part buddy
Exactly. I don't see this as a negative. Of course Ukraine cannot match Russia soldier for soldier. It makes sense to find other ways of levelling the field. Plus, it preserves human lives, which is what Ukraine values.
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Like us all … Even a Drone wants to shoot a 50 cal …
wonder how they get the funding to make those before US
@@delanofernandes6471US has to go through a bureaucratic process while Ukraine needs to develop technologies fast in order to get the edge on the battlefield.
@@delanofernandes6471 everything they develop will be shared with their allies
BULGARIA, POLAND, and Romania are making the necessary demands for the freedom preparation ammunition!
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/KPV_heavy_machine_gun
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@@delanofernandes6471This seems to be an ignorant and naive comment, probably by design.
From what I've seen, efforts to supply these are small scale, local and online-donation based.
The US taxpayer likely had little influence, and instead helps supply traditional armaments. The pentagon paying for Starlink there is one exception.
Ukraine inherited a lot of expertise and knowledge from its soviet union days and there are a lot of talented people who are forgoing their futures for this.
Thanks for your support Paul! Good work!
Skynet is getting closer. Humanoid war drones in 15 years ?
Arnold would be proud.
Nah, humanoid shapes are for movies, but why replicate it? A spider configuration that can get knocked fully onto its back and just reorient its legs so that now its back is its belly would, for instance be far more useful.
Humanoid would be useless in wars , drones are superior
@@george6252 You say that like Arnold is dead
Also, something to consider. Even if you completely take out the inherent value of human life..... Drone destroyed in an assault? That's data and experience gained, be it for the drone operators or a future hypothetical AI, that can also be shared and studied. Soldier destroyed in an assault? That's combat experience lost that has to be regained / relearned through further assaults.
just like cylons that truely is scary sci fi has become reality
Very valid point
This is truly historic.
OH DUUDE DAMN imagine being the first dude fighting against literal terminators 💀
Even worse, North Koreans do not even know what terminator is... they are so far behind it must be actual alien experience for some of them
Imagine being the LAST!
Great video as always. No filler.
Once drones have taken a position, that position can be 'held' simply by remote sensor drones. These can be ground based and simply need acoustic, electromagnetic and vibration sensors linked to a data connection which should be a lot cheaper and easier to maintain in situ than air drones.
A remote sensor unit can then relay back to command HQ when it 'sees', 'hears' or even 'feels' the enemy approaching with far more accuracy and durability than a human observer. Combine that with motorised land drones equipped with .50 cal machine guns, small mortars and even light anti-vehicle weapons and the need for humans to be maintained and supported in forward positions is completely eliminated. In theory the drone operators could be in a bunker hundreds of mile behind the front lines, providing comms are secure enough.
@@ianhigh4354 exactly,
Thanks!
Using ground and air drones to take on the most risk, then sending in soldiers afterwards to secure the area/drones is a good strategy. Not about weakness. If anything it reflects strength in innovation and resourcefulness.
Thanks for the info. Please keep it up! May the baby grow up wise, happy, and to more sane times, with international cooperation rather than drone wars.
The world just changed. So much just changed.
Yeesh. This is like the old school X-Com games where you could send mini tank drones and hover drones before fielding experienced soldiers. Never would have imagined the Russians would be stand ins for sectoids.
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Each drone requires an operator, so no shortage of numbers, but it means that less first hand capable combatants can be used and greater safety. Someone injured or older can now be nearly as effective as a fit frontline fighter
I wonder how long it will take before these drones are given AI and learn how to seek and destroy autonomously.
It's already being done. Chinese AI control software and code custom written by chat gpt.
I would hope never but if it were to be a reality I’d say not within the entirety of the war since they are not facing a drone pilot shortage
@@Dave-zq8wxpeople should watch the Terminator movie to see what can happen.
It would make sense there already is cus u can’t jam AI not like a drone with a pilot if u thank about it
@@66時空66 there are currently ones where AI takes over if it's signal is jammed.
Necessity is the mother of invention!way to go Ukraine!
First of all, thank you very much for your videos and also the appeals for donations. I've been transferring money since the beginning, but this is the first time I've heard about the tax refund. It makes things so much easier and more cost-effective for everyone involved :D
Great explanation of the use of drones!
Bless you Paul for your hard work presenting these informative blogs.
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I went to Chernobyl in 2019 and tried to get to the front lines.
It blows my mind to think about. In my 57 years, we've gone from Vietnam era warfare to today's futuristic warfare with drones and GPS guided missiles.
gps is becomeing obsolete
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Thanks for your support. It all adds up. I havent donated yet but I definitely will when I get paid early January. I usually donate 30$ or 60$ too but this time might donate a little bit more 👀
Great analysis Paul!
The terminators are here now.........
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@lnfskate6083 They will not stop, They have no feelings......LOL
Excellent interpretation. Thank you Paul, this is your USP
They’re making the best of a bad strategic situation, if you don’t have men, use robots.
Thanks for the video.
Got to keep those American dollars coming in... 💀
What really bothers me, and im not even an american, are the unchallenged swarms of airborne drones in us cities and sensitive area's. The damage they could do...bombs, spreading all kinds of other doom😮
Poisoning water/land etc. Probably our government but if not insane to not capture and contain them. Disable the electronics and start collecting them.
Indeed weird to say it was out of desperation, when reducing risk to able bodie people is what a military should strive for, very impressive they were able to prove that fully automated mechnaized warfare is closer then we think
Thanks, Paul
Robotics coming at you would be terrorizing realizing you just can’t instill fear in a machine, so personal actions won’t intimidate a drone.
How about small robot spiders that scurry across the battlefield at night with night vision and have explosives attached to them. They scurry at night into enemy trenches and as soon as they make contact with a enemy soldier they explode like the flying drones do. And in the day have the flying drones harass them from the sky. They would never feel safe anywhere.
You can't supress them.
Thanks, Paul.
Wow , imagine night time conflicts, a head pops up, bang it's gone, problem is, in a couple of months the enemy has it.
Merry Christmas, Paul! (in Sweden we start celebrating on the 24th)
10 years ago who would have thought Ukraine would be leading the future in warfare
ROBOT DOGS!! FRICKIN ROBOT DOGS
How about small robot spiders that scurry across the battlefield at night with night vision and have explosives attached to them. They scurry at night into enemy trenches and as soon as they make contact with a enemy soldier they explode like the flying drones do.
Boston Dynamics robots with chainsaws.
@@crossroads8370 greasy
The dog robots are being used by UK now. They drop them in theatre's with the Vampire drones!
You say the drones can't hold the line. That doesn't matter. The drones clear the line, then the soldiers move in AT NO RISK to hold the cleared line, then use the drones to clear the next line, etc, etc. Advancing without human loss is a major game changer.
That video was crazy, no way you can see those drones rolling through that high grass. AND THEY DROP MINES!!! Its getting crazy out there.
Nvidia sells $200 AI accelerators, all that separates Ukraine from a solution to their manpower issues and build a robot army, is enough good training data and model training time so their AI soldier fits onto that Nvidia board…
THE only Drone that made history is Lancet ---- the lone Drone that stopped NATO'S COUNTER offensive
That was one of the the most polite smack downs i have every seen. gj ("not a complete assessment")
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Damn, having to face those things has to be a real nightmare. Imagine having something like that coming your way. Like how do you even handle that thing? How do you destroy it? You would need grenades or a rocket launcher or something to do it, doesn't look like bullets would be of much help against that thing. And it fires 50 cal on top of it? Pure nightmare fuel. No wonder they cleared the whole trench.
Edit: I said it was no wonder 'they' cleared the whole trench, but a single one of those ground drones actually cleared an entire trench a couple months back, all by itself? Crazy stuff. That thing just went in there and took out the entire trench by itself, without anybody being able to stop it? The guy steering it must've felt like playing a rail shooter. I wonder what kind of counter the Russians will be coming up with.
I remember even before the invasion there were instances when a ukrainian hand-made turrel with a PKM on top and remote control was holding the position in Donbass. In one such instance russians could not do anything to it for two whole weeks no matter how many mortar shells/snipers fire etc they were sending. In the russian networks they were completely puzzled, wondering what a brave guy was sitting there :)
1:46 I just watched a video showing a crew of three operating one drine at a time. You still have to have people operating drones, its just that the dronesvare doing their fighting for them.
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It is like Star Wars. Only it is: The attack of the Drones.
Great vid, shorter and to the point. More of this please.
Somehow it's a worrying sign they literally won with no casualties according to the author? If you can do it with just drones, just use drones, of course. "Machines break down." Holy shit, wait until this author hears about all the things that can go wrong with human beings, especially in the winter. It's top tier critical thinking that I've come to expect from a forbes contributor.
there is no human cost in lives to war it makes war more likley
@@jenifferschmitz8618 I would argue that you can't eliminate the human cost and that automation will have no impact on whether or not war breaks out anywhere. Greed is why war breaks out. But that's a long argument to make and I'm not gonna spend time to make it on youtube.
War offensive weapons give rise to war defensive weapons or to the next offensive adaptation. What will it be EMP devices to neutralize drones? Don't know. But IMO if war makers are excited about something new.. the rest of the world should be afraid. .. ... .. Maybe it will be a factor in a getting a better peace settlement for Ukraine that most people hope comes sooner rather than later.
This is the first time in history military *ground* robots have caused direct casualties. That’s the real significance here. Did what the US military was afraid to do with a fighting force a fraction of the size. Put a gun on a ground drone and actually used it to eliminate infantry. Americans are too bound by ethics to use armed UGVs on the frontline specifically in urban combat areas despite having no issue with reapers dropping hellfires and 500lb bombs.
Hasn’t Israel deployed armed ground drones against Hamas? I feel like I remember seeing combat footage of one in a tunnel.
@ No actual combat footage of their UGVs exists so highly unlikely. Just like the SWORDS units deployed to Iraq in 2007 anytime an armed ground robot shows up in available video it’s almost always for a show of force or capability showcase. Same thing with the Russian Uran-9s deployed to Syria. They were there sure but there aren’t any recorded engagements. Of course there could be all sorts of covert operations of THeMIS rolling in and shredding entire squads to pieces but until now nothing that’s been documented.
What interesting times we are in, like the old Priest song:
We've taken too much for granted
And all the time it had grown
From techno seeds we first planted
Evolved a mind of its own
Marching in the streets
Dragging iron feet
Laser beaming hearts
Ripping men apart
The Ukraine Russia war has changed the way wars will be fought going forward.
Not sure what the dogs do, but all the Ariel drones will make human ground troops almost obsolete.
They will be needed to hold an area, but not take it!
I think you're right about "proof of concept"
Seems to me Ukraine knows the direness of their situation, they're lacking equipment and personnel, worrying about future support etc. Hence they're "experimenting". Test ideas that seem most logical or harder to beat
Shared map/target information....
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That is an attack without friendly casualties. We like our soldiers, and they aren't just numbers to us. I doubt the Russians understand that concept.
This is exactly that, a prove of concept that was confirmed to give positive results. Give it a year and we may see a lot of those assaults done by drones alone. We already got fpv drones with smart anti jammer signals, so ground drones could use the same. Drones can clear a position, wait a little bit for soldiers to reach them and help hold the line and then retreat to be repair, restock and use in the next assault. As companies compete with each others to achieve lucrative contracts we'll see an improvement in this new area (similar to how fast aerial drones have improve in the last two years)
ukraine has all the data there in the box seat
"machines break down" she says. Soldiers get shot. "maintenance intensive" - still less cost that "human maintenance" (i.e. hospitals)
there at a point where drones are single use or build them so cheap with consumers parts or even plywood that there not even worth fixing heres a new one the economics are out the window it make no sense to invest tanks fighter aircraft disposable systems and factories to pump them out is where the dollars should go
Plus, the ground assault drone operators *survive* even if their robots are destroyed, which means they can learn from their mistakes and apply those lessons to the next drone. Plus as technology develops and designs and doctrine both are enhanced by feedback, operations are going to get better, smoother, and more dynamic. We'll see a lot more application as this gets perfected. And you can bet your boots that folks like DARPA are going to be neck-deep in this too.
I agree with your analysis. Currently, this is a PoC just to determine viability and learn vulnerabilities and shortfalls. Then they can go back and make improvements.
This is all new. Tactics need to be developed. I see this as more of a force multiplier by sending several of these around to the enemy's flank to misdirect and confuse. I don't see the use of robots as a huge force multiplier right away, but in a few years, they may be. No doubt they can be used in urban warfare to assist in clearing areas among other duties.
Historic indeed. Odd that the author of the article missed the enormity of the achievement.
Yah exactly. SMH 🤦♀️ NO WAR! Stop it! 😢
Thank you
From Roombas with claymores to this
2:00 this was proof of concept, and trying to figure out potential problems to overcome.
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In 1911 troops were hampered by communication systems that required a physical wire lain back to the command post. In 2030 troops will be hampered with comms systems that require the same as radio no longer works due to the sheer volume of EM radiation in the air to jam connection to drone systems.
Except that Ukrainians have been getting surrounded by Russians in Donbas due to poor decision making by the command
I think that Forbe might be trying to align with Trump... maybe, more pro-Russian.
Nice to hear an English speaker use "fewer" appropriately instead of "less" inappropriately.
Fascinating! Let’s hope they can scale it up!
Reminds me of the first times they used tanks.
In a similar kind of stalemate war and what happened next?
It probably exists, but it seems to me that the best strategy would be to develop som ground drones that are equipped with some fairly large range grenades that could go up to the edges of the bunkers or trenches and drop it in there under cover from assault troops and snipers supported by some heavy machine gun drones.
Larger vehicles could be DRONE-by-Wire (fibre) laid out from the operators main hub (the operator is hidden nearby via modulated local frequencies to prevent EW at shortest ranges or fall-back optical. EW storms are going to be commonplace to scramble comms. wire in that environment reminds me of WW1 style trench warfare.
OK I do not have the benefit of your experience Paul, but it seems to me that a machine gunner in an assault situation has back up in the form of people resupplying his ammo. The robot/drone with a mounted machine gun must return to base or at least fall back to where it can be reloaded by a human when it runs out.
Automatic lanch & reload/recharge...
Does not unnecesarliy rewheel operator position...
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Your right. That reporter is either seeing it wrong, or putin is telling him what to say. NOT wasting human soldiers is genius. The drone operators get better and better the longer they are alive right? Drones are cheap compared to skilled soldiers.
Thanks for your analysis. But please turn off the auto exposure on your camera. Cheers!
Came to comment this, glad I wasn't the only one, because I couldn't decide if it was that or if my monitor was messed up, haha!