xQc Is Stealing Content (and So Are Most Reaction Streamers)
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@LegalEagle It's been a while since you did a "laws broken" episode. Maybe you'd like to tackle "The Truman Show," starring Jim Carrey? I eyeballed false imprisonment, unsafe working enviroment, and unlawful surveillance and wiretapping, and I'm not even a lawyer!
Please Do A JFK 1991 Film Review on it's LAW ACCRUCY? PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Could you please cover the legal aspects of the Illuminaughtii saga and explain the concept of indentured servitude in relation to her treatment of OzMedia? ✌️💕🌻
Yo
maybe a show review?
Literally the phrase "my fans would be bored I talked too much" is indicating that he's using the video that they're watching as entertainment and not fair use.
And he's admitting that he's boring
and still getting money from it
"When I make my own content I make less money, so I have to steal"
It's not just the video, it's watching with the streamer and his chat that makes it fun. The video has nothing to do with it. It's same like watching a movie alone vs. Watching with your friends.
@@santanu5892 Sure, but if you're watching a movie (legally) then you generally paid some money for it in some form of another.
Imagine going to court and the judge ruling that you have no case cause the defendant called you the king of cringe
Your honour the defendant called my client the “king of cringe” and mocked his parkour ability as a result my client suffered severe emotional and mental trauma.
"objection your honor, as we have shown in exhibit F2, my client is definitively based."
These kinds of people really loves to waste the normal working people's tax money for mundane shit like these.
@@xenonnboyobjection hearsay
Either that, or the judges brain malfunctioned due to lack of understanding of what xqc even said
You didn’t have to cast viscous mockery on xqc on calling him a gibbering mouther, but you did, and I applaud you for that.
Vicious mockery ≠ viscous mockery
@@archmage_of_the_aether It was thick with mockery.
Viscous Mockery. Cantrip, Range 5ft
The target takes 1d4 Psychic damage and is Restrained until the end of its next turn, damage increases to 2d4/3d4/4d4 at appropriate level.
You barrage the target with a tirade of point blank insults resulting in them being covered in spittle and being so shocked they cannot move from where they stand.
@@philipdixon9088Thanks, gonna totally homebrew this!
@@philipdixon9088 Sounds more like a Karentrip to me.
Hey, don't compare xQC to your dog, your dog is way more comprehensible and a good boy.
My cats loved to meow back at TV shows. They had great timing for it. It was a lot of fun watching things with them. It was like being on Mystery Science Theater 3000. I'd a cat on either side, quips coming from each of us, and a large collection of B movies.
You're right. That's a good dog, especially compared to that guy.
@@jenniferstine8567 congrats. your cat is more literate and compassionate than XQC
I thought the dog was a good girl not a good boy? Regardless though your point still stands!
"... a problem near and dear to my heart and, more importantly, my wallet."
Yup, he's a lawyer alright.
😅
There was never any doubt if his lawyer profession. At least this lawyer is funny, and mostly helpful.
lmao
@@i-evi-l You missed the joke
@@i-evi-l its a joke bro, this guy clearly appreciates him just as much as us!
Devin: "You can't just describe what you're seeing, and call it commentary."
Sssniperwolf: ...
SURPRISED I'm not seeing more comments about that given JJJackfilms vs SSSniperwolf has been ongoing for a while (not familiar with xQc so idk much about this particular incident) and being transformative is the whole argument Jack is making.
Just put a cardboard cut out of yourself going "dude! Cringe. The drip." Over and over again on a loop
She was the original queen of the "economy of nothing" that the internet is full of now.
Oh, it's worse than that.
Whenever you watch her and she has her glasses on, you can actually see that in the glasses' reflection, she's looking at a white screen and her microphone. The original video isn't even played. She's pretending to react: if XQC is level 0, than hers is -10.
@@chocolatMouse damn, she used to fake play Call of Duty. now she can't even watch tiktoks for the first time
Hasan's defence of "90% percent of content creators don't mind." Just doesn't hold any water. You can't infer consent by an imaginary vote of majority.
Hmmm... a commie living off the work of others, how surprising.
Right? Like, even assuming that pulled-out-of-arse statistic was reflective of reality, that hasn’t really got any bearing on whether or not what he’s doing actually falls within free use or doesn’t. Like, I reckon you could get a whole bunch of people to agree that having to drive the speed limit is a pain and nobody minds speeding in their town, but that doesn’t mean speed limits cease to exist. Never mind that this would still beg the question, what of the 10% that allegedly do mind, then? Even if 90% of people surveyed agreed that it was totally alright to eat Bob’s lunch, that doesn’t mean Bob suddenly has lost the right to his lunch. And thats never mind the fact that I find it quite difficult to believe that 90% of everyone whose work has been used in this way are truly entirely unbothered.
I mean, I know there are certainly still finer points and more subtle considerations to be examined in such cases but it just seems the fellow has got little but some very faulty logic to speak for his actions.
@@drownedharbourI also feel like that 90% statistic was made up on the spot.
People seem to think, "It is better to ask forgiveness than permission."
That is not true in fair use cases.
@drownedharbour it's shambles all the way down too. A voluntary cross platform opt-in revenue sharing mechanism could "easily" be implemented by YT... But that further antagonizes their position in relation to streaming platforms, because they'll want to factor all the viewers, and streaming platforms don't like that. Forcing it would likely result in less exposure of YT by a considerable amount, so they havent done much other than leaving it to creators to take it to court (The music industry is probably laughing right now). Creators on YT are just hostages, unable to move the Issue forward because it's against YT interest. So in reality they're stuck under the repressive rule of "reputation", because big name Creators/Streamers can credibly threaten their chance of success, maliciously, if "small fish" were to complain about react content. The smaller you are, the worse it is. Not to mention youtube already has its own issues with small creators getting claims / struck by shameless reuploaders, or outright 1:1 frame by frame copied by established creators.
Until this gets solved it's eat or be eaten, which love or hate the one in question, really large creators excell at. Crowd pleasing in their bread and butter, and lamborghini.
Even if they do, that doesn't give you the rights to the other 10% lmao
How XQC became this popular will forever remain one of the world's greatest mysteries for me.
Nah not really, his audience are mostly kids
@@TheSilentWalkerz dude, thats even worse.
Obviously from ow days
Overwatch inflicted him upon us
xqc funny momment & overwatch esports
"Chat gets bored if I'm the one producing the content on my stream" he admits he can not maintain an audience on his own
Yeah... I'm not sure that was the brilliant defense xQc thought it was.
Yeah, and like Legal Said, so it every other streamer and reactor, even the popular ones.
I see everyone talking shit. But doubt everyone would apply the complete burden of laws about infringement to some of their favorite UA-camrs also fairly. Technically we could all do better and to be honest I have been waiting for it.
Exactly he is admitting people follow him for the free movies and what not not his content he "adds" lol
Yea, it’s evidence that his viewers are watching the copyrighted content and not his “commentary”. His viewers probably find his reactions to be distracting.
"If I talk, chat gets bored" is the most hilarious self own from the most unhilarous unselfaware guy I've heard in years
Exactly lol, essentially he clearly stated that no one is here for him, just the video
Clueless
I didn't think of it that way at first, but you're totally right
And if someone sues him, they will absolutely use that against him.
He knows hes wrong and plays it off and doesnt care. He knows the copyright laws better than anyone. He has plenty of lawyers and management working for him. Its merely an act hes playing but totally a bad attitude thats unfair to small creators
Hot legal take:
When a livestreamer leaves for a toilet break, they may employ the infamous "pause video" button while they are aware.
For a lunch break, you can pause while you go and prepare your meal and then you can get even more views while eating it on stream because you can add the “muckbang” tag to it 🤔
Especially for people at Twitch, that sounds like perfect moment for an ad break
In British English they would call his leaving it running "taking the piss".
Oh no. Hassan explIned very well. Chat can't handle being left alone. And he can't be expected to just not eat... do you expect him to DIE??
@@morganseppy5180 yes
That judge did such a thorough and comprehensive job breaking down exactly why some reaction content is absolutely fair use, and why some isn't. Hats off to her, shes an absolute chad.
Yeah I was surprised that this judge seemed very aware of the larger cultural context of reaction content.
@@KafeinBEcultural context? Excuse me, what the actual hell are you talking about?
@@justiceplay3518delusional people make stuff up and it’s hilarious 😂
@@justiceplay3518 I think they meant what people in general think of reaction content, since many judges tend to be out of touch
@@justiceplay3518the context behind reaction content that explains how it stems from, exists within, and influences the larger culture surrounding it (examples in this case would be internet culture, twitch culture, western culture, whatever the hell qualifies as culture that influenced xQc, etc.)
Hope that helps
I love how "the king of cringetube" is actually written in a full on official court document somewhere
There was a robbery Supreme Court of Virginia case that has the phrase "a hoax perpetrated by finger" in it. It makes me laugh every time because of Mike Ehrmantraut. The case is Commonwealth v. Barney.
and a precedent at that lmao
I can't wait to see xQc react to this video and leave it playing for 30 minutes while he's in the toilet. Peak reaction
leave it playing for 30 minutes while he's in the toilet losing the best part of himself for the day.
😂😂😂
He isn’t above that either, he did the same thing for the meat canyon video that mocked him.
Sorry I missed your comment while on the golden throne, hope everyone enjoyed your comment I provided.
Isn't that's what Hassan is doing, though?
I have to applaud the person who wrote the captions for this video for the effort they had to put to translate xQc's uncoherent noises for the rest of us
Are you sure an actual human put "Chad" in place of "chat" that many times?
@@generatoralignmentdevaluexQc calls his chat “Chad” and a few other streamers do as well. It’s a meme.
"incoherent"
Yeah, and that’s why we should give the editors and subtitlers a huge raise while they tried to comprehend the speech of this total degenerate. Never liked XqC, never liked Asmongold and other reactor content creators. Which seems fair, since they A) violate copyright infringement B) make actual profit off of it C) not actually putting the original name(link I mean) in the description/comments, whatever. The reaction content is legit just contaminated wasteland where streamers/UA-camrs land in either desperation or in hopes of getting a rip-off of the original video.
@@justiceplay3518 agreed... but what is 'violate copyright infringement'?
Back when tumblr was more of a thing, I ran a fandom blog for a video game I like and reposted fan artwork on a regular basis.
I asked every single artist for permission to post their work. If I couldn't source the artist, I didn't repost it. If the artist didn't speak fluent English, I looked up some copy/paste scripts and used those to ask (usually including a machine-translated notation of my own that apologized if the wording/grammar sucked).
Out of literal thousands of images I posted to my blog, ONE artist gave me a polite 'no,' and two gave me specific requirements I had to follow in order to repost, which I did of course. 99.999999999% of them, though, were *just happy I gave enough of a crap to ask,* and were more than happy to let me do so, often with a request for a link so they could see it on the blog and even so they could follow it.
Asking permission isn't just ethical and a good idea, it will net you new followers and even make you some long-term friends. It might be one of the best ways of getting to know cool people, at least in my (admittedly small-time) experience.
glad to finally see someone say when tumblr was "more of a thing" and not "back when tumblr existed" because tumblr is in fact alive and well
@@amazingadrien it's alive, sure. Well, though? Ehhhh debatable. At least it's on the upswing anyway.
To be fair, graphic artists are of the most generous kind. If you try the same with musicians or producers... eeeh wll it goes a lil different
A thousand and one red flags went up in my brain as soon as I heard xQc and 'exposure' for vid makers. As someone who has done commissions and work for people in the past, the second I hear "I'll give you exposure for your work" any sympathy or positive thoughts I had about him went completely out the window. 'Exposure' is just a buzzword to avoid having to pay people their due.
Hearing that always reminds me of that article by The Onion titled "Artist paid in, dies from, exposure"
As a musician myself, nothing infuriates me more than people/venues offering an artist or creator "exposure" instead of paying them. So many venues try to pull this shit. Exposure can't pay the bill mf'ers!
You mean you can't eat exposure or pay bills with exposure? Have you asked the IRS if they accept exposure?
It's also a harmful form of exposure. It says "this person works for free, don't ever pay them." -- If you really want to give someone "exposure" then pay them the market rate for their services and let them use you as a wage/employment reference.
Great, the person can get exposure to a variety of people who will also hire them for free as well? What a deal!
Really wasn't expecting a lawyer to drop "gibbering mouther " as an insult. It's a good day.
Kinda makes me want to make an abberation streamer as a villain in a campaign. Probably not a gibbering mouther, but a mindflayer that does non-reaction content of ceremorphosis
Lawyers are savants of the English language so it's not surprising one would use a term like that when it's appropriate.
Because he is... a lot of his fan base would be the same
My guy gave me whiplash from that brutal, tremendously nerdy, burn!
@@Krypto121 It's a creature from D&D.
If you talk to your chat and they get bored, that means you're boring.
I thought the same thing! That was quite the self-own
He literally admitted that he has no cult of personality. Usually streamers like him use the defense “well my audience was excited to see my unscripted reaction to this video I’d never seen before”, but he outright said his viewers are only there to watch the video he’s reacting to and have no interest in xQc himself whatsoever.
Yikes.
Hear hear
EXACTLY my thoughts.
Say it louder for the people in the back!!
On the other hand it is completely frustrating when obvious fair use of copyright material (e.g. fragments of Disney cartoons in an hour long lecture) will resolve in DMCA strikes without any second thought or consideration :(
If/when LegalEagle can do more on Fair Use/Transformative Use (probably on Nebula), he absolutely should cover harmful and potentially fraudulent copyright strikes on popular streaming sites.
That's not a spicy ad revenue generating topic sadly.
@YonMai I think it is though. A lot of YT viewers are aware of how complex and easily exploited DMCA is. We all want better, fairer, content.
From what I've heard, Disney is not one of the entities doing most of the copyright strikes/claims (suprisingly.) It's Warner Bros and Universal.
@CyberneticCupcake2 I think he already did this, or something similar to this.
xQc getting paid millions to sit in his chair and watch videos is the most confusing thing I've ever seen
Really? There's a chinese girl that only pushes her face into slices of bread, and she raking in the money as well.
Not to mention yelling a bunch of barely intelligible things. It's really sad that he's one of the top paid YTers. Hopefully the next generation is smarter.
It's because children have buying power. So advertisers will pay for the most inane shit you've ever seen.
Capitalism is clearly functional and rewards those who work the hardest.
@@MushookieManthat doesn't apply and make zero sense here.
I can't get over the phrase "watching a video TO my viewers". It's so bizarre and reveals a lot about xQc's warped mindset.
Reminds me of Ken in the Barbie movie "playing the guitar at you" 😂 I mean I assume his native language is French so it might be an honest mistake but it sounds exactly like the mindset he is exhibiting.
@@sleepyseraI have not watched any of his content, but with what I have gathered from people talking about it online, this is not a translation error and it is 100% deliberate, he knows exactly what he's doing and he is making a half assed attempt at covering his tracks. He's just forgetting that footprints in the mud is not always the way a tracker will find you, and in fact, a lot of the time trackers will completely ignore footprints in the mud because that's very easy to fake
@@sleepyseraI thought a problem of non native English speakers is being too literal hah
@@Razorally if anyone's coping & seething here...
anyway: keyword is 'react', which obviously doesn't mean sit & watch or leave the room
@@sjs9698have you seen a reaction from xqc where he doesn't say a single word during the video? Didn't think so. So is there a words per minute you have to say to distinguish reacting to something from just watching it?
If I had a nickel for everytime a Felix became the biggest name on a video streaming platform based entirely on an audience of 12 year olds, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot but it's weird it's happened twice.
I never realised this till now.
Whos the second one?
@@B1g_B0sssss both PewDiePie and xqc real names are felix
Your editor somehow found the 1 clip of us NOT talking over dialogue and blabbing which is so often what we’re ridiculed for XD. Great insightful video about fair use. I hope it’s okay if I give some context in regard to how we go about reactions:
In the clip of us at 2:10 we’re reacting to the fan-made Dragonball Z Abridged series. The series itself is one that has often battled copyright fair use issues with Toei animation. The creators of DBZA, TeamFourStar, have expressed that they enjoy watching reactions to their fan-made parodies. Our reaction videos to them are 4 years old and none of them are monetized.
We do our best to abide by all four tenants of fair use that was discussed in this video. We are often ridiculed for not showing the entire content piece or speaking our commentary over the dialogue of the videos we watch. We never show the full content of what we watch unless given express permission like from Rooster Teeth for RWBY, or public fan-made series like DBZA. It is VERY important to us that everyone supports the official releases and not use our reactions as a substitute for the real video.
Our “uncut” watchalong offerings on Patreon do not include a full repurposing of the episodes we watch but rather a countdown timer for our viewers to sync their own copy to react along with us.
Hope this sheds some light or gives nuance to other UA-cam reactors similar to us. There’s definitely a proper way to go about reactions and it’s a thing called ‘editing’ that most people just seem to not care to do.
it was unfair of them to include your clip. i checked out your channel and saw the one peice video, most of it is just you guys talking and discussing about it after showing a small portion of the original content for context. 100% approved and imo transformative content. cheers mate!
another playlist from youtube is the "thats cringe" series by cody ko and noel miller, they did similar stuff, showed bits and peices of og video for context and rest was comedy, in your case it was comments and discussion, once again good on yall for being ethical and cheers!
Reacting videos are in general not "transformative" you're legit leeching of the original work because you're not putting a spin on it, you're just putting your face and adding 20s-30s commentary.
@@Yeff365It’s not 20-30 second commentary though for those that are attempting to do right by fair use. It’s several minutes sometimes hours of commentary.
Of all the clips he found, the one with silence
@@Yeff365says who? You? Crazy you say that when the people who actually create the films and shows they react to think it is and embrace them wholeheartedly.
I do love the idea that some people think "there's no way I can do this, or at least do this profitably, without it being illegal" is a defense for illegal conduct 😂😂
I mean, it's the reason small businesses often short wages to their employees, and why we won't raise min wage.
Wage theft is the biggest form of theft in america
@@LoveOverwhelming The worst part is that it's not just culturally accepted, but culturally promoted. Look at the backlash to the strikes that have been going on, it's insane that so many people are so willing to argue against what would be beneficial for them. That and really all of the work culture with the myth that working hard leads to anything is so wild to me.
@@Alexander_Grant agreed
Yeah he did bring up Linus at the end who basically said "I lie about products because it'd cost money to tell the truth."
@@Alexander_GrantI don’t believe people are against the reason for strikes at least I’m not I personally disagree with how they do strikes like I get not going into work because of union strikes but when they block roads and get in the way of public areas and get shops and schools and doctors closed like normal people are being affected and can’t access services because the people that promised to serve us aren’t getting paid enough there’s better ways to strike than stopping everyone else from doing what they need to survive
Hearing him reffer to xqc as a "gibbering mouther" was the most perfect thing i've heard in my life and the poor d&d monster didn't deserve it XD
I literally read your comment as he said that. My head glitched lol.
I'm writing him into a D&D campaign as kind of vampire.
It's just a shame he mispronounced "gibbering" 😆
@@NoriMori1992 the way most people mispronounce "gif" ;)
Did we just learn that he plays DnD!?
What really bothers me about this is that tons of creators do things that really should be considered fair use but get dinged because UA-cam is so overly aggressive about DMCA.
Don't forget about UA-cam's incredibly "efficient" DMCA bans which allow even week-old accounts to report videos that they can claim violate the DMCA.
Not about DMCA, about rightholders.
The whole point of having accord with rightholders to participate in ContentID is to bypass DMCA entirely, by having complaints fed into a system that favors rightholders and the platform at the expense of the creators.
Except when it's their golden babies like Sssniperwolf
It's better to err on the side of caution as a platform. The alternative is theft on a grand scale.
Copyright lawyer covering copyright law? Hell yeah
Careful people might randomly start saying he's not a copyright lawyer. Also, Hell yeah!
@@Valsorayulol what?
@@Valsorayuhe’s not though? He’s probably done a lot of copyright law and is an expert, but he was a business lawyer iirc, not a lawyer specializing in copyright.
@@bradenculver7457 Basically this? I swear there have been videos where LegalEagle has explicitly said he isn't a copyright lawyer. I'm sure he knows his stuff, and it doesn't take a scholar in the field to see xQc is infringing on copyrights, though.
@@Joe90h maybe you’re confusing him with Leonard French from lawful masses who is explicitly a copyright lawyer. I’m fairly confident legal eagle was a corporate lawyer, which inevitably delves into copyright law, but is not limited to it.
I'm so glad I managed to get through the first 26 years of my life without knowing this xQc person existed.
You have lived a more fulfilling life than some, that's for sure.
I played Overwatch and in the early days I watched a lot of guide and gameplay videos. xQc was always being mentioned and his clips shown........ and he was just as annoying then. But at least he was less obnoxious since he wasn't as big then. Never surprises me what fame can do to an idiot.
Same here. This is the first time I've ever heard of the guy. Kinda wish I never had, but Devin's content is worth watching.
I cant grasp how he is so popular.
@@wizarddragon because kids, and others without fully developed brains, find that kind of obnoxious cringe entertaining.
"you can't describe what you see and call it commentary"
SSSniperwolf is sweating rn
I would love to see Legal Eagle comment on Jacksfilms' current crusade against SssniperWolf
"Bro has a bag !"
*blank screen intensifies*
she’s not even seeing it. She reads a script and the video is added in post. It’s hilarious how dumb people are to watch something that fake and cant tell
This is how they be making the sidewalks
As a french canadian from Quebec. I always find it funny that "xQc" is so big, since adding "Qc" at the end of an online nickname is basically a Quebec meme of a 13yo wanting to tell other people from Quebec that they are from Quebec, combining with "x" makes it the epitome of cringe 13yo nickname. I also wondered how well his spoken english was and since I don't really watched him, I assumed it was pretty good, but seems like I was wrong haha So I really don't get it, I wish I could root for my homeboy, but I really can't.
deconstructed the nick is really just the cringy 13 yo name. The one all of us did when we were young because we thought it sounded cool. Most people move away from that at some point, but it seems like some are forever immature.
@@HappyBeezerStudiosHe does have a brand around it, so I think he might get a pass
He hasn't matured passed that of an obnoxious 13 year old. So it is kind of fitting.
Oh man, if you knew.... His english is actually much better than his french 😂
@@HappyBeezerStudios That's just a matter of his branding being successful. If he had never took off, he'd have begun his maturity journey. Basically, the people play a part in his 13 yr old mindset. There's nothing we can do about these people because they are just the result of a very low standard upbringing. But xQc can just keep taking legal blows and the laws can update so people like him can't just steal content.
I wonder how many people realize that Weird Al, the king of music parody actially asks permission for every parody he does. He probably doesnt have to, because he could probably defend all his work as fair use, but he makes the call anyway because its the polite thing to do and it saves him potential headaches down the road.
Better still, some artists actually ask him to take the piss out of them. That's respect.
Your correct that he dosnt have to. Al has always preferred to ask though
I've heard a slightly different argument: the ones that comment directly on the original song (like "You're Pitiful" instead of "You're Beautiful") are probably okay, but the ones that are the same song with different, silly lyrics (Like "The Rye or the Kaiser" instead of "The Eye of the Tiger") are probably not fair use.
But you're correct that, either way, he does get permission, which is good on him.
@@andrewphilosOr, as Vihart put it once, "in the United States, we have the constitutional right to make fun of people".
Well, usually saves him headaches, looking at YOU Coolio…
I'll give it a shot at predicting xQc's reaction;
"He (LegalEagle) is just a hater"
"He is envious of my success"
"He does it too!"
"He just stole _my_ content, by making this video"
"He doesn't understand copyright law"
"He just cherrypicked some of my videos"
"I boost the content creators by watching their videos"
" _[rambling incoherent gibberish]_ "
Did I miss any?
He leaves to go to the toilet mid “reaction”.
I doubt it. Unless his team went full brain rot like his chat, he should shut up and ignore this one.
Making this any bigger of a drama will potentially have long lasting consequences on his career.
Just like Asmong who is also a reaction streamer for the most part, he said sometimes you just need to shut up and let it go.
Could've just skipped to the last one. I don't think I've ever understood a single word this manlet has uttered
Ignore the video and make an indirect comment or tweet about "haters"
Loud obnoxious eating.
"He's suing me."
Gotta say even remotely comparing @TheNormies to xQc is one thing that would get your case thrown out of court.
They are talking all the time, giving commentary, doing really impressively filmed skits and mostly their videos reflect as such. You found one clip, outta context (from YEARS AGO), and compared them to bullsh*t streamers like xQc, which they are not.
In fairness, this a great video over all and I'm sure The Normies would actually agree with nearly all of it, but whoever edited that is completely full of sh*t and should be held in contempt. @LegalEagle
Yeah considering he's a lawyer, it's kind of a joke that he's included them in this and tried to claim they do something they definitely don't
The reaction video used in the LE montage was also from a creator who doesn't object to reactors using the videos so it could be argued the footage used by The Normies was with permission.
well said
Well said Sean 🤘🏽
common Sean W
Hasan is lying his sorry arse when he says 90% don't mind
They do, in fact mind very much, but as history showed, if they ever tried to defend themselves, they would get hate from fans of popular streamers, it's genuinely appalling, getting robbed while you can't do much about it.
You should really watch DarkViperAu's "Why react content harms everyone" series, it's very well made and covers some areas I wouldn't think as issues if I never watched him.
This is an issue I have personally dealt with from both sides of the perspective for many years. The foundation of my channel is built on a balance of adding nuanced and contextual information to videos that I did not create. Fair use has been a major aspect of my channel from the very beginning, and my team and I have worked very hard to ensure that all parties are respected and acknowledged. Tracking someone down to obtain their permission to use their content is often the most difficult part of making a video for my channel, so it would be nice if others could pay the same respect to the content we create. Thank you for making a video on this topic. It was very educational and top notch as always!
Pog
Not the channel I was expecting to see here. Keep up the awesome work!
Love your videos ATA!
A channel that xQc has reacted to even.
I love your videos ATA and your strides to keep law enforcement accountable
Damn, the Normies got thrown into this. That example feels so odd since almost all their videos are filled with "reactions" - so much so their audience ATTACKS them for talking too much during their reactions. It's so bad their audience accuses them of missing content from the video they're reacting to.
I was thinking the same thing. Their type of reaction content is completely different from "react streamers." They have always been carful about fair use, edit down everything, and spend more time discussing/reviewing than the content they're reacting to.
Yeah I found that odd. Personally I LIKE the normies because they talk too much so using them as an example feels like a lack of research.
And they always have a post discussion about what they just watched. If feels transformative enough to where it isn't hours of silent watching for money.
To be fair... the never ending stream of BS that usually flows out of their mouths often adds just as much as them saying nothing would have.
Yeah I don't think people like The Normies or Blind Wave should count. They cut the episodes/movies down to a shorter amount and they spent the end of each video discussing/reviewing what they just watched. XQC's trash
xqc is literally the kid that just copied the answer to a math homework, and got pissed when the teacher asks to show the process
The teacher hasn't, though. It's like if every other kid in the class reported the rich kid in class for stealing another kid's homework, but the teacher decided to ignore it to avoid their wages taking a hit if the kid got expelled.
Nah, he is more like the kid who copies your homework and get better grades than you
@@pyrokinetikrlz More like the rich kid who copies homework by just taking it from the poor kids and writing his name over it.
and was upset that he failed the tests that followed
"But I got the answer right, I don't need to show my work!"
The prototype for the "reaction channel" was Mystery Science Theather 3000, and even they paid royalties to the obscure Sci-Fi films they commentated on.
That was a little different. MST3K was a proper television show that provided commentary on the unabridged versions of the movies they made fun of. Toho’s pretty chill when it comes to licensing Godzilla & they know the benefit of exposure better than anyone, but I reckon why they’d want a cut when Joel & the Robots decided it was time to spend two hours making fun of & dissecting the artistic genius of “All Monsters Attack.” It definitely was a win-win, though. 🙂
The only reason they get away with this is because the streamer's massive audience will cause problems for them if they make a stink about it. LEMMiNO must've spent months on that amazingly produced video for some cracked out fool to steal the entire video.
Lemmino doesn't care why would u?
Lemmino hasn't said a single word about this whole drama
It's mafia
@@blank1990 we want others to be justified.
@@blank1990 are you just making shit up to defend xqc?
As a copyright professor and litigator myself, I’ve been dying for someone to produce a video (a) on this subject (b) of this caliber. xQc’s position was always laughable, but SCOTUS made it all the more so after this year’s Warhol v. Goldsmith decision, which was the first time the court iterated on the 2 Live Crew case in three decades. Sotomayor stated that if a defendant’s use is commercial and serves the same (or a highly similar) purpose as the original, it’s presumptively not transformative absent a further justification (such as colorable criticism, commentary, or parody). qXc’s reactions are posted for commercial gain and supplant a clear market opportunity for the original videos (since the experience of watching either is equivalent), meaning his lack of sufficient commentary is fatal to a transformativeness defense. Given that the first and fourth fair use factors are generally considered the most important, he’s already roasted, but (as you note) he also flubs the remaining factors by reacting to creative videos closer to the core of intended copyright protection while using the entire works without a proportionate need. If one of the victims of his IP theft walked into my office, I’d take their case in a heartbeat.
I don't understand how UA-cam allows it... the Content ID system should be triggered and either allow the original owner to strike the other channel or claim profits from it.
Look at what reactors have to do to content from a Disney show. They of course cut out portions. But also mirror it, make it smaller, overlay themselves over a portion of it, mute/transform the audio, remove music, all sorts of stuff. I've seen reactors noting they've had to reupload 6-10 times to not get claimed. Even people doing breakdowns which don't play large portions of the original work get claimed.
There also seems to be a bias for some channels. Newer channels often try to copy what they see larger channels do. Cutting at the same points and all the other tricks. But they get claimed when the larger channels don't.
It's been suggested that some channels have gotten "whitelisted" and only get manually triggered claims.
So how are videos natively uploaded to UA-cam not having the same level of scrutiny? Because they're not Billion dollar companies?
@@BallisticTechthe white-listing argument makes a lot of sense. UA-cam makes the most money off of creators with large audiences, so they’re going to get bespoke, light handed review. Everyone else gets a robot than demonitizes your video if it thinks it hears the word “Hitler”.
It's very subjective. Why not sue the platforms?
Have you seen darkviperau's video on the topic, he has made series of video on this topic
@@BallisticTech ContentID is a walled garden. Only certain copyright holders have access to it. Maria Schneider filed a lawsuit over that issue a couple years back, but dismissed it on the eve of trial after having been denied certification of the class action she was trying to lead. I also wouldn’t be at all surprised if UA-cam calibrates the system’s leniency based on how established a channel is. Although ContentID was primarily instituted to placate copyright holders in the wake of the seminal Viacom v. UA-cam litigation, there’s a dearth of case law stating they *need* to have the system in place to be protected by the DMCA, so they have leeway to play around with it and avoid jeopardizing their safe harbor protection - at least for now.
I find that many live streamer's defenses come down do "Do you know how hard this job would be if we actually did it the right way?"
Moneymakers often use this to try to excuse breaking the law. Remember when phone companies said it would be too much effort to actually enumerate all the charges they were billing their customers for?
"Chat gets bored when I talk" isn't the defense he thinks it is.
If xQc posts a garbage reaction to this, please sue him.
That would be a very interesting court case that I would absolutely follow
Might break his brain
too late he already did. But he did put a lot of effort into reactin this time
@@RafiYagamiHe know to not temp fate and mess with the lawyer.
He can’t sue him 😂😂😂
"The chat wants me to not commentate" = The chat wants to watch the original video, so the stream displaces the market for the original. The chat wants you to commit copyright infringement.
You stole that content from the prosecutors Exhibit A. But I have found that it is Fair Use.
I think it's fair to say that nobody decent wants Felix to comment on anything.
"The chat wants" is not a legal defense, funnily enough.
Pretty much what the chat wants is just a watch party which isn't the same as them just wanting to watch the video by themselves. Obv this doesn't make it better or anything It's just an interesting issue.
literal self report
It isn't hard to ask. I asked LegalEagle for permission to use a video clip for a class on rulemaking. He responded promptly, and he was fine with my proposed use.
I believe most countries actually have exceptions for using IP without permission in educational settings, specifically so that teachers don't have to go to the effort of trying to contact all their sources. It is still nice to ask though.
I saw some fantastic art in a comic that I thought my daughter would love, and I loved. I contacted the artist and requested permission to make two t-shirts, one time, in two sizes, so my daughter and I could each have a shirt with that comic on it.
The artist was thankful I asked and within my very specific limitations, provided their permission.
@@floofzykitty5072 When I was the instructor at police academy, I tried explaining that to the leadership. They wanted permission, and it was kind of ingrained in me.
@@craenor aww, that's nice!
glad the artist was okay with it!!
No one would have cared if you used it without asking i promise
Shoutout to DarkViper for first raising the awareness of how harmful react content is for the original content creators.
I don't watch that guy, but I agree that he did the right thing.
I've been following this ever since Jay Exci did a video about it and got into some hot water with Hassan Abi over it. Love to see Leagle Eagle taking part
Jacksfilms was on this topic YEARS earlier
@@WoFDarkNewton Did Jack actually ever talk about legal implications and how this stuff affects the platform? He did call out individuals, but he never put a spotlight on general reaction content. I might be wrong tho
@@thebigsam Talking about legal implications isn’t necessarily Jack’s strong suit 😂 he prefers to address things with sarcasm and sass, which he certainly did. He definitely highlighted certain individuals, but I think it was more about the general problem. Someone covered the legal aspect in much more detail at the time, but I don’t recall who
xQc being referred to as a "gibbering mouther" just made my day.
When I heard Devin make a D&D reference, I busted out laughing.
SAME. Only came here to comment about the D&D Monster. haha@@queenannsrevenge100
Made the same comment. 😂
Time stamp?
@@Moon_Viber6:17
Jacksfilms is currently on a crusade against one reactor sssniperwolf basically the UA-cam equivalent of xqc
Bro watching SSSniperswolf makes the video unwatchable for me, with xqc most of them time chat carries the reaction content, while xqc just stares, eat and go away from the video.
@@Jaxv3r"bro is delivering a package"
@@zachava oh hell naw this crusty musty comment, bro said ohhhh noooooo
Gotta say, SSSniperWolf somehow manages to be worse than XQC. At least sometimes the guy sometimes cracks jokes and stuff, meanwhile sniperwolf just repeats what's on screen and even sometimes just cuts out the original punchline so she can say it herself.
@@Select2Playher videos are scripted, she’s not even watching anything
I'd love to see xQc try to react to this video and see LegalEagle sue the shit out of him.
he will react, just wait till he wakes up
I can't wait to see asmongold react seeing as Legal Eagle grouped him in with xQc by showing a snippet of his stream when talking about streamers that steal content. Asmon gold doesnt steal content at least for the stuff that gets posted to his youtube. as for the other stuff he reacts to on stream I really cant say. Fillian would have been a much better streamer to show in Asmons place considering most of her content is just her laughing at other people videos
he won't for sure, 27 min. lil bro not gonna watch allat
@@flame5391 well jokes on you he's watching it
@@73delgadoso AsmonGold always gets permission for every single reaction he posts to UA-cam? Because if not, then he is committing copyright infringement
Jacksfilms has been going after SSSniperWolf for pretty much the exact same thing xQc is doing for a couple of months now, and he's doing it to highlight how bad the problem is. Fair use essentially involves crediting the original creators and providing transformative commentary or additional original content to the original work and people like Felix and Lia never seem to do anything like that. The craziest thing is that UA-cam seems to be promoting this type of behavior because they realize these people make UA-cam a ton of money. When you think about it, people like Felix and Lia are pulling users from Tiktok, one of UA-cam's direct competitors, and they are watching content initially created and hosted on Tiktok, but Tiktok is essentially seeing none of the revenue from it. It's a double win for them; they get paid and their competitor gets hurt. And because we're still in a sort of "wild west" when it comes to enforcing fair use, these companies basically get off without any repercussions.
I think TikTok should sue
I don't see TikTok going after them because their content actually is being promoted by SSSniperwolf. Individual creators are likely to be hurt as she rarely credits the original creator, and the experience of their entire video is being replaced. The platform, on the other hand, gets its name plastered all over a competitor's website and that will drive some traffic to them, likely far more than they lose by people watching non-reactive content. It's going to have to be creators who do it.
I dislike Sniperwolf and find her style…loud and grating…but she gives a lot more commentary and criticism than xQc, probably enough that she would stand a decent chance in court.
@@craigspaulding9711 In rare cases, sure, but a lot of her work is unambiguously theft. Her reactions range from literally just reading out the tiktok captions to in some cases literally not having her face in at all and just repuploading someone else's content. Actual transformative insight being added to the video is rare. It's a lot of "bro that's so crazy".
@@craigspaulding9711describing what's happening is not meaningful commentary, as was pointed out in this video
Don't forget, He has the option of pausing and skipping parts of the video. Even on a livestream the streamer can pause playback while taking care of personal needs off camera.
Arguing that they had to take breaks for food and bathroom stuff is a moot point because the technology exists to halt the pre-prepared video in a single moment until the streamer returns
It's called pausing
You can also neo it while making commentary so the video doesn't get ahead of you
xQc said that "my stream would get bored and leave!" for this kind of thing. Really dumb excuse.
I mean it's telling that all of xQc's 'defenses' basically relate to the fact that it would hurt his bottom line, so it's fine if he doesn't do it. As Devin said many times it's a moot point anyway because the act of streaming the video live could well invalidate any sort of fair use defense.
Well put! It's what everyone else does...! It makes sense to put a BRB screen up, because he's literally NOT THERE.
Could also switch to his own content when he's gone. Such as him doing the worm on loop
xQcs
sorry that's a bit mangled, but it's the best I can do right now 😅
xqc coming for Ethan and Hila about fair use when they have literally set the legal precedent is just. embarrassing
💯 XQC wouldn't have a job if it were not for Ethan's legal battles...
"And to prove you are wrong about my actions, I will use **flips through notes** uuuhhh.... your actions in the past as my... defense. Wait."
He's Canadian, so U.S. precedent isn't controlling except as it violates the ToS of the platform he's using. He's also _French_ Canadian and might very well have a hard time understanding the nuances of the legal decisions since English is his second language. Yes, (most) French Canadians grow up speaking both languages and can be considered fluent, but xQc is obviously not one of them. And let's face it, many people aren't actually fluent enough in their _first_ language to understand law.
He thinks he won that debate too
@@Bacteriophagebs he lives in the us so he is culpable for us laws. plus I think he’s just stupid or huffing copium
I'll take it as a badge of honour that I've never heard of xQc
This was also the first time I had heard of Kick.
@@laurencebrown3822 I wouldn't have a clue about these streaming platforms either. I obviously know the reaction video genre exists. The odd time I might go on UA-cam to watch a trailer for a big movie and irritatingly you can't actually find the original trailer from all the stupid reaction videos. But this is way more insideous. Rich, talentless assholes trawling the Internet for popular videos (made by people with actual talent) that they can steal revenue from. From what I saw it's pretty indefensible.
Last time I heard of anything like that was when ninja went exclusively to mixer. A platform that shut down less than a year later.
Same! Never heard of him, and based on what I saw here I definitely won't be watching anything from him in the future either.
I've watched some reaction videos though, but I'm quite picky on what I find worth my time. Musicians, vocal coaches or producers reacting to music is something I regularly watch, but only if they pause often and go deep enough in their explanations. I need to learn something new from them, notice things I don't notice on my own.
Another type of reaction videos I watch is Americans reacting to videos about life in other countries. From those I rarely learn anything new anymore, but I enjoy watching others learn too. I will only follow the ones with an open mind though, people who can accept that USA is just one country in a big world, and not the best in soooo many ways.
Knowing who he is will somehow make your life both better and worse.
If I knew I coulda filmed myself watching the internet during my meth use days and became a millionaire, I'd be xQc right now
You'd be a billionaire, that would be wild. 😂
The thing is, xQc doesn't really care. He gets paid a lot and his audience generally tolerates him stealing. He has nothing to add so he makes noises so at the minimum, he just doesn't want to get banned. He doesn't care if he's stealing unless it hurts his bottom line. His sympathetic (to a point) audience makes it easy for him to brush off criticism because unless something drastic, or legal, happen, he'll keep trucking.
He'll start caring when people drag him to court.
Luckily someone can sue. Don't they say $250000 per infringement?
He´ll start to care once someone that can match his wallet for legal fee´s sue him. He has no case, it will only be a fight of attrition until he can´t push it more.
@@jdk7278 and he said he will gladly pay however much the creators feel that he stole from them, as long as they reach out to him. is it scummy still, yes, but suing him won't even dent his pockets.
@@blurry7672actually it will, as co-defendants will include the platforms, and its upto $250k per offense, each individual view counts as 1 offense potentially and the platforms don't want that liability so rather than risk going to court and fighting it, they'll drop him and leave him with all the liability. Other platforms pay attention and go "sure he may have a large audience and we might get that, but he is also likely to get us sued, and we can't afford that risk". The reason no platform has dared take a large scale "fair use" case to court yet is the liability that happens when they lose would be insane and there is a very large chance they could lose since fair use is not a solid concept in the law (and some countries don't have it at all).
The fact that he wanted stream himself watching the Dark Knight is probably all you need to know about how much the guy cares about this stuff.
Imagine being a grown adult and watching XQC
Or just anyone with enough maturity.
Watching him eat and or his empty chair
Well if you want to look at an empty chair, you can also watch a Hasan stream
his among us streams were hilarious
Imagine being a grown adult, and judging other people for their choice of entertainment and escapism.
There's suddenly an unexpected demand for a follow-up, potentially including side-topics like doxing.
23:25 - 😂 LegalEagle going for the throat with this one. You made me spit out my water
Mean while youtubers almost having to show no video or sound to stop being copywrite strike at. 100 percent just reaction.
@@loganshaw4527or getting other issues due to content, ie almost anyone that tries to discuss All Quiet on the Western Front.
also when he siad "apparantly kick thinks this garbage is worth 100MIL" i spilt some coffee lmfaoo
@@aryanram02 the trick there is that Kick is affiliated with a gambling platform. So its bad in multiple ways, and XQC's fecklessness serves them well.
@@TheStrangeBloke Stop accusing xQc. People are saying this is fair use to react properly and not steal content... but.. did you ever wonder why Mr.Beast(king of yt) said it himself that "react to my vids, i will take free views", these reactions actually profits the vids.
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"...and accused his critics of being envious of his success."
Never followed or watched xqc but this one sentence combined with shifting blame to his fans in the chat to his editors uploading the video in question on UA-cam really tells me what kind of personality this dude has.
It's like Sssniperwolf saying "because I'm a woman". It doesn't address the criticisms being made, deflects the blame and, detracts from women that actually are facing sexist attacks.
If you truly believe you're in the right, it shouldn't be hard to articulate why. Right?
I really whish someone would actually take xQc to court over this.
My guess is in cases where it appeared the original creator had the resources or appetite for litigation, he quietly paid a retroactive licensing fee and a continued license or royalty agreement to make it go away. Because if one case against him succeeds, all his content is endangered.
And every other streamer and reactor.
I'm curious what happens if xQc tries to do a null reaction to this video...
@@luissuazo3684
No. If he doesn't have an argument some deals might be made with the lawyers to get a portion of the revenue instead of a standard fee. He probably paid the moment he gets a notification.
Imagine a class action :)
I recall hearing something about famous people being frozen at the maturity level of when they first became famous. Explaining fair-use to XQC is like explaining to a 2yr old why they're not allowed to eat the whole box of cookies. That said, I suppose one way to approach the push-back is let the 2yr old eat the whole box then live with the consequences while rubbing it in their face.
Also explains Michael Jackson's behavior much better than the accusation he was doing those things to lure in underage victims .
I wouldn't put the Normies on the same level as others. They get yelled at by comments for talking too much sometimes
So does xqc 😪
@@iwantcake7703 That's why I watch neither. But Normies' format is way different (and way better) than xqc. xQc reactions are just group viewing sessions where he might talk. Normies reactions designed specifically for commentary.
@@theshlauf can't disagree but content isnt "good" or "bad" as it appeals to specific audiences
Quite literally the same argument as xQc's lmao
@@theshlauf Well the format is always going to be better on react specifiic content vs a variety streamer. Theres tons of react content for a reason, because its not all the same.
LOOOOOL "GIbbering Mouther" That's amazing. When LegalEagle goes into insult territory you know it's bad.
Calling him a straight up DND monster makes me like Mr Eagle more, hope we get to see him delving dungeons at some point!
I'm glad I'm not the only one that caught and loved that.
Makes me wonder if LegalEagle is a rules lawyer... :)
You know it's bad when a Lawyer gets so mad he insults someone instead of stating facts that make them look bad
I hope xQc "reacts" to this video so LegalEagle can wipe the legal floor with him
he will, and legal won't do anything.
💯
That would be a huge financial loss for Legal, lawyering is expensive, there'd be minimum payout and not enough to cover the first weeks of discovery, let alone if the case went all the way to trial in.. 2 years time.
It might be worth it just to set precedence which will make it harder for people to do videos like that and get away with it
@@battle_toastwhile you're right it's also funny to imagine.
Another way I've seen some streamers approach it is to tell their viewers to go watch the video themselves on a different browser window, then their own stream is just their reactions without any of the other party's content.
That's another legal way, though I wonder if Oracle v. Google negated that when Google Android's main use of Oracle Java was to tell every Android developer to go get the original in order to do anything!
2:09 Don't come for The Normies, they always put a 10 minute timer on copyrighted material and they're one of the most lively and interesting reaction channels out there. Love their content
I mean they are way worse then xqc 😂
@@bnbmike4731how on earth do you figure that? They edit down their videos, talk through most of it, and if you want to watch it in full you have to match it up with your own copy. How is that worse than a dude watching an entire 90 minute video live while doing nothing?
@@bnbmike4731 how? the usually even use less than that out of a 40 minute show and the discussion and skits are usually like 4x longer than the reaction itself lmao
@@bnbmike4731worse in terms of copyright infringement, or worse in terms of how much you like/dislike their content?
Would that hold in court though?
Cant wait for xqc to react to this and have his only reactions be 'whaaaaaat' and 'come on dude' while his chat fights ghosts in their heads😂
Don't forget the "How bout dat" and "LILERLY GAMERS DO IT TOO" and, of course "No, bro.."
Except xqc actually reacts to videos like this and would pause constantly to give his opinion.
Chat would actually get mad and tell him to stop yapping
@@user-bn3yy8qf5g That argument won't sail in court.
Pausing the video is not gonna save him, nor is blaming it on chat.
@@slizz376 the problem is when he or his editor reuploads it to youtube, and usually before reuploading the editor asks permission from the original creator.
@@flame5391 funny thing is xqc never showed proof as far as im aware that he ever asked permission while h3h3 was able to show proof that xqc didnt infact ask for permission. Believing what someone says at facevalue without applying any critical thinking is not a very productive way of going about this discourse....
We had the right idea in 2016 running these “reactors” off the platform. The fact they’re even tolerated, let alone being accepted and paid millions now feels fundamentally messed up
I started watching UA-cam for music when it was just starting. Now I do history content. At no point did I ever go, "man I want to watch somebody sit in a chair and talk about somebody else's video." (Except a fellow history channel who did a react, to an awful react, to another history channel.)
I get vibes a lot of these reactors are the same glazed over bullies a lot of us nerds had in high school.
@thecreweofthefancy reacting to historic takes is brilliant because it often generates a back and forth between the two creators (even if heated) so it helps both. Clippers similarly help streamers by acting as advertisers. But reactors just make money off other people's content.
Honestly it’s was the rise of twitch. Streamers were getting contracted to stream for so many hours so they turn to react streams and double dip by re uploading the reactions to UA-cam
@@rossanderson5815 I don't mind "actual" reacting, especially when it's a fellow scholar doing it. It leads to excellent discussion. Miniminuteman has done a few and had his own reacted to by an expert in the specific topic. I love that stuff.
The ones I don't like are when folks just sit there and stare and if they do speak, it's to make smart remarks about topics they know nothing about and don't even seem to learning about.
YT needs to deplatform Lia instead of putting her on the front page. She used to be a gamer but is now just barely reacting and adding nothing to the videos she reacts to.
Kinda like how JacksFilms has been criticizing Sssniperwolf for just sitting there like a muppet in her reaction videos and giving no credit to the creator. What's really wild is she doxed him by showing up to his house and posting it.
The fact someone like xQc is popular/rich makes my head melt.
I’m glad someone said it. It’s bewildering.
it blows my mind, it makes me lose faith in the intelligence of society
i have tried to see what's so good about his content and its just... so... painful
@@QueenOfTheNorth65it’s not hard to believe he has charisma, I know you guys don’t know what that is because this is your brain --> 🪨
@@isaiahvaz3933 Good example of the how following xqc can damage your brain.
It's at least *partially* an early adopter thing. As mentioned, he's been doing this for most of a decade and he didn't have as much competition early on. Because of the nature of the para-social relationships built by livestreaming, you're more likely to gain fans over time than lose them (and large viewer/follower counts make you more visible). If he started today, he'd probably blend in with the background noise.
Watching xQc get absolutely rinsed by Ethan Kline and then turn into a pouting baby was both amazing and took years off my life. Dude came away looking like a child.
But Ethen Ratein have this exactly same content, he watches people's videos and roast them. They are absolutely the same type of person, why do you hate one and love the other? NPC Brain holy shit.
@@lucasljs1545roasting is actually criticism, and falls under fair use. But just streaming other ppls work should mean that they should license it or otherwise compensate the creator. The difference is very clear. Go back to clapping like a seal for that conman.
@@lucasljs1545the video explains the difference, if you don’t understand it then you should rewatch it until you do. You have to transform the content in some way with your reaction, and roasting the content is considered transformational as it adds something to it, where as just sitting there not saying anything is not.
@@lucasljs1545 so you just parroting the NPC term exactly like an NPC, whenever you can, without understanding if your argument actually make sense or not. okay NPC
@@Thomas-4222you can find videos on UA-cam of Ethan not saying a single word while reacting to videos and stealing content the same way xqc is accused of in this video. One is not better than the other because they it less, it's either fine that both do it, or it's wrong that both do it at all
Cinema Therapy do a really good job of reacting to movies. They show a scene, sometimes talk over it while it's playing, and then they break down what they just watched from very specific points of view in order to communicate mental health concepts and filmmaking concepts to the audience. Can recommend.
There are some truly fantastic and transformative reaction channels on UA-cam. They are not the norm, but they do exist.
I mean that's similar to Directors Commentary which is a pretty normal thing in regards to movies/TV shows. 🍿
@@carpelunam Sort of, but not really. I can't explain it well, but find any video of theirs about a movie and watch it and you'll see what I mean.
@@carpelunam Director (and actor, writer, etc.) commentaries don't have to worry about copyright infringement because they're literally being paid by the copyright holders to make the commentary (obviously they can't just sit there in silence the whole time, but they don't have to worry about the whole thing being transformative).
Additionally it's generally done as an alternative audio track, so they can't pause to go into more detail - something that's pretty common among good reaction youtubers.
Director commentaries are not similar in anyway because they are literally the owners of the movie lol@@carpelunam
I want to meet a reaction streamer in the wild, when they're not in camera, just to see how empty of a person they are
Watch out, they'd record you and silently make faces to it between bathroom breaks
Corporations to its employees: We can't afford to pay you, we don't make enough money. Maybe you should work harder.
Corporations to gibbering idiot Twitch streamers: Here's a dump truck full of money, sell our crap to a few million children.
I imagine is because they see xQc as an unique asset with a lot of proven value (it's like paying for an exclusivity contract and a publicity campaign) unlike the employees that are, in their opinion, more "replaceable".
Think of all the money the banks spends on those stupid flyers that they send out to people, trying to get them to get credit cards. Just for the flyers to end up in landfills. And they're that glossy paper too, so throw in some extra chemicals seeping into the surrounding environment.
I like Judge Klein's take: *"Does it replace it's original market product?".* It's a clear identification of the potential problem and iterates the spirit of copyright law in one short, clear sentence.
In that case I think something like "A classic song" and "An expert opinion on said classic song" are 2 different market products. If I'm having a party, I'm not playing "Vocal coach reacts to Bohemian Rhapsody"
xqc uses the same thumbnail and same title so yes, in a way it does replace the original product, especially when you search for the original video and you get his reaction as the first result. thats why he copies the thumb and title, to leech
@@jerm_he asks for permission when posting reactions on youtube your point is null
Nah, LE talks about why that's not sufficient. Certainly as a court test it isn't- not including the other elements would make it a lot harder to justify certain edge cases.
@@alejammibut he livestreams without permission.
Imagine a TV station broadcasting content without permission
Many UA-camrs forget that fair use is an exception to copyright law, not the default.
Pretty sure 99% of UA-camrs knows this as second nature, it's typically the streamers that primarily use other much more enforcement lax platforms that haven't a clue how copyright functions.
@@4473021 I don't even think the streamers genuinely think what they're doing is good, but it makes them money.
It's like how the manager of The Rolling Stones initially said "Yeah, sure, you can sample that song for Bittersweet Symphony," and then later when he realized it was probably gonna be very successful he said "Nope. Copyright infringement. You gotta give The Rolling Stones royalties for the song."
You might say "Oh, well, maybe..." but don't argue in good faith for him because when the agreements were signed he was quoted as smiling and saying "I did a very bad thing today."
"No it's cool I'll put up this fair use timer and when it runs out I'll just start it again cuz no one is paying attention anyway"
I actually had at one point had to step in and shatter a echo chamber that kept creating this air that all reaction based content should not fly because not every youtuber deserves ungodly amounts of hate over doing it. I feel as though some people get on reaction content way to hard to the point it can actually backfire because of the blatant stereotyping making the person making the accusations come off as way to aggressive. When the actual reactor that adds to the content tends to be what I often see and I do like there take on it, xQc/Sssniperwolf is more akin to the actual freebooters that youtubers who are hard on it, those kinds tend to fall with what they actually complain about that often only say what is going on or just don't add to it and use the medium as a excuse to take from it.
Thus when someone says they hate reaction content I almost always have to counter with ya need to be more specific on what you hate about it and if it boils into general then we are gonna disagree cause general reasons are often gonna fall under copium fueled stereotyping against a fact that reactions count as a valid medium weather they like it or not. But if it boils into the aspects like using the medium as a means to freeboot and steal content by "reacting" and not doing or adding anything with it then we can start agreeing that its blatant abuse of fair use that they are doing.
TL:DR I ask people to separate actual fair use abusing freebooters and genuine reactors that add to the content and to avoid stigmatizing it in the general scope over anger on the former which can hurt the ladder.
@@videogamerNattie98 I hate reaction content because it leads to weird parasocial relationships where the viewer actually thinks of the reactors as their friends instead of going out and making friends to watch movies with. It's unhealthy and I hate how much reactors encourage it. They don't know you. You really don't know them. Make some friends
Why do people even watch xQc at all? I'd generally prefer my content free of some random blonde dude just staring at a monitor in the corner.
"I think my dog could offer about the same level of incisive levels of commentary as qxc"
The level of savagery in this video towards QXC is unmatched
I remember a while back Devin's dog just suddenly interrupted one of his videos. It was the cutest thing ever.
I would love more doggy content on LE (maybe call it Legal Beagle or something)
As someone who has been thoroughly involved in the situation, this was a great rundown and explanation. Great video! ❤️
when XQC inevitably watches this video without any commentary. Simply sue him with your legal powers, and take him to the cleaners. If you get there first you'll get all his money before the next guy's case resolves and there is no blood left in the stone
suing him for the exact amount of his kick contract and win it all would be metal AF
Just copyright strike him, that's what copyright striking was made for. It would be funny to see him post about how illegal it is when it is against a literal video essay detailing the legality of his copyright infringement
Lol, I've tried explaining fair use once in a reaction channel comment section. Got torpedoed by fanboys of that channel telling I didn't know I was talking about. Even the owners of that channel liked comments that said that nonsense to me. Now they are one of the clips being used as an example in this video. Amazingly poetic for me.
This video itself is a great example of when it is 100% fair use. Mr. Eagle is showing us clips and commentary.
he's also not reacting so wtf are you talking about
@@austinsmith9890 And this relates to the OP how?
This video isn’t about reaction videos. It’s about using other content creators content. And when it’s legal or illegal. So he’s correct. This is a great example of exactly what he was explaining.
@Craigthetexan even if this video is "about" reaction videos it still literally is commentary on XQC's clips
Also with Meat Canyon, it can't be copyright violation to watch your own content, since xQc's not reaction basically qualifies him streaming the original footage without change
I know garbage entertainment has always existed, but this guy is one giant leap closer to Idiocracy. And he's getting insanely wealthy doing it.
Yeah he’s got a devoted fan base of dribblers
@@paul995 Really sad what passes for celebrity these days. I thought worshipping the Kardashians was rock bottom for our society. Twitch said 'hold my beer'.
But... reaction videos have electrolytes. they gots electrolytes.
@@Crowald😂
idiocracy was about rich people - smart, poor people - dumb so every reference to that movie is in favour of xqc since he is very rich
Wow, seeing DarkViper's efforts succeed in inspiring you to make this make me tear up a little. May there be justice one day.
Don’t forget how Sssniperwolf has been freebooting for ages. Jacksfilms is working hard on calling her out. She’s a thief and should be booted from UA-cam.
As a Canadian, this xqc guy is embarrassing. 🤦♂️
@@ryansreaction lol me too
average quebecoise
@@ryansreactionFrench Canadian
@@julie91295so is GSP he doesn’t sound like that
As a Quebecois/French Canadian, I highly despise xQc for being such a vile streamer while having our provincial acronym (is that the right word?) composing 2/3 of his name. He truely is embarrassing to me.
I have started selecting "Do not recommend channel" on all those creators who upload lame reaction videos that, in reality, are just stealing content. I've seen some of these prominent "creators" reacting to a video the day after the original CREATOR uploaded it. So disappointing to see this behavior.
I do this...but I still get the same stuff suggested over and over. Sigh.
@@snaxicakesI file a report for spam every time... not that it'll change anything but it makes my day a little better. Lol
FINALLY someone is addressing this issue. I'd expect nothing less from LegalEagle.
Haha what do you mean finally? Lots of people have talked about this my man.
Yes, for example @DarkViperAU he has a very good series about this topic, well explained and very interesting.
I've been railing about this for a while now. It always bothers me when I see a video someone spent hours to make get stolen by someone "reacting" to it by just sitting there staring off to the side and saying nothing.
and it's not like it's difficult to react. There is a big amount of content creators that, when reacting, add their insights and their opinions, pausing the video a lot. Hell, Legal Eagle himself does this
What's the point of reaction if you're not even reacting
@@sergiogimenez3923A good reaction also requires a lot of research. Legal Eagle probably spends a few hours researching case law before each of the reaction videos. That's actual content. It's sort of like the difference between a content creator/entertainer and an "influencer".
Actually, it's legal As Long as you are actually commenting, and not just playing the video. Fair Use...
@@thescoringcompany165 yes, absolutely! although sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't. For a legal critique of "Legally Blonde", you may need to do research, but, to put an example, "Uncle Roger" regularly reacts to chefs even though he is not a profesional cook, but he still knows enough from experience to make comedy out of the videos. Research certainly adds, but just knowing something extra, or adding a bit of stuff on the subject goes a long way already! Just add anything, not like... this guy
Streamer: "Your honor, I had to take a piss."
Judge: "Sounds like a you problem. Still copyright infringement though."
Cool motive. Still copyright infringement.
This was such a bizarre defence - he can just pause the video while he's gone.
You know he's a real lawyer when he says he cares more about his wallet than his heart. That's enough proof for me.
Note: Not actually hating on him. Just making a joke.
I mean you can't blame him really. We need to stop looking at many channels and personalities as honest and real people. It's not... a bad thing to make content for profit. People need to make money. Blogging is different than content creation. And people watch content more than bloggers.
@@hansmcfinklestein7640 but if you make it about money then it doesn't sound like a relationship anymore. That's what most people are in for, really.
@@DanielFerreira-ez8qdsource? Where did you see that most people watch content creators not for the content but for a "relationship"?
@@hansmcfinklestein7640 Wait, since when is blogging not content creation? What distinction are you making here?
At least he's honest about it, right?
i wish we could just walk into shops, grab stuff, walk out and say "i'm doing a reaction to the taste of this one month worth of foostuff" and then just nothing happens because it's a smaller store an they would have to file a report through a private third party that also profits from my theft.
I think another great example of a decent job done with reaction content is CinemaTherapy. Obviously, not the whole movie or show is being reuploaded, and they pause frequently to express their insights and experiences. Love those guys.
Definitely a great example!
Yup and 74 gear, Ryan Was, Mama Doctor Jones etc. It's a whole industry
I've recent found a channel that does Star Trek Voyager reviews with some tongue in cheek humor and pedantry. What is shown are still frames and full voiceover. Absolutely fair use.
CinemaTherapy is a good example also because the guys know enough about what they're reacting to to expand on it. I watch them for their takes and to learn something new, even when I'm not at all interested in the content they're reacting to. I've often seen a movie first and then watched the CT episode to get a better insight on it, but it's worked the other way too, first seeing their reaction and then having to seek out the movie to get the whole experience.
Of course there's also times when I've not seen the movie and don't watch it afterwards either, but even then they're not stealing potential audience, since I wasn't going to watch it anyways. In those cases I watch the CT episodes just because of the therapy angle of whatever they've chosen to highlight.
Thing is, Cinema Therapy is NOT a reaction channel/content.
It's pre-scripted and they are not watching it for the first time at that exact moment.
It's more of a commentary/review channel, not a react one.
The Normies? WTF!
Can’t believe we got through this whole video without mentioning Sssniperwolf and the Jacksfilms battle against her
It’s adjacent at least.. and awesome lol
@@luissuazo3684 it's actually extremely relevant - but i suspect you don't even know what it is, and that's why you said this
THIS
I think most of what you said was English but I don't understand what you said
@@keyworksurferto expect somebody to know what this is is extremely unreasonable