+CammyCakes Gaming you and cool guy are the only ones that seem to get how fun wrecking shop with a fusion is ^^ hope you both keep up the great work^^
Love the video man, great numbers and well explained. Can't wait to try it out. I was only a little disappointed that you didn't talk about telesto as its my favourite fusion rifle but I'm still a little unsure of how the damage numbers with the initial impact of the projectiles and the explosion damage of them. I seem to land my one hit kill but the opponent has time to shotgun rush me before they die from the explosion. @coolguy
+coolguy also I know not that many people nowadays will have it but how does glass half full work on the praetorian foil? As I've always found that an interesting perk and it's the only fusion rifle in the game with it. Does it work per shot with the bolts increasing or does it work like normal in the lower end of the mag?
This video was just amazing. It's nice to see someone who actually understands how the range stat works with fusion rifles. I hated what they did to fusion rifles in 2.1, mainly because it really reduced the effectiveness and variety of fusion rifles overall. Now, it feels great being able to use ANY fusion rifle I want without having to be dependent on stability perks for the most success. Darkblade's Spite is actually my favorite legendary fusion rifle. I was lucky enough to get mine to drop with rifled barrel (the main perk that I look for in medium, to high damage fusion rifles), hotswap, and surrounded (don't care for this) after WEEKS of grinding for it. It is just absolutely AMAZING! Granted, I do feel that the perks that someone looks for in a fusion rifle will depend on their style. I personally prefer to really push their ranges, so high impact models with high range are my preferred options. Also, most seasoned fusion rifle users have used the charge>ADS trick for a while. Previously however, many would ADS first, and then switch to hipfire since fusion rifles used to have incredible hipfire stability and accuracy. I will be sharing your video around. :)
+Valakrie2040 Truth, what to look for is up to the user and playstyle. Range is big stat. I didn't cover it, it plays to the accuracy stat of the weapon as well ( big plus, seems to get a little better grouping, hard to confirm so I left it out ) and things like crouching can help as well. Again, dependent on the user and what they find value in. Thanks for the nice reply!
I'm a day one player and right here is the best video you can find to explain the functionality of fusions. Save it for later or put it on your list if you wanna master this class of weapon... KUDOS SIR
I'm just going through more tips and stuff for fusions because they're so fun to use. You definitely deserve more recognition for your work CoolGuy. Great in-depth number crunching and good gameplay examples. Keep it up.
Can't believe I didn't stumble into this until now. I've always been a fusion proponent from the very beginning and even converted some clan mates into using them over shotties. I thought I knew all there was to know about them, but man you've shown me a few new things here. I know Destiny is getting dry, but I really like your content man, keep it up!
watching this video from beginning to end was definitely worth it, no youtuber has gone this in depth into fusion rifles before you in my opinion at least. despite how often you put out content its always high quality, keep it up man, I'll definitely get me a darkblade's spite for that 4 shot bolt
+Jorge González-Páramo I appreciate that Jorge, means a lot. I didn't go into them as much as I wanted to. The goal was to get the shooting technique out. Would have been much longer, and wanted to keep it reasonable time wise
That's perhaps the best thing about the video. I mean, most of us grasp the basics of a FR like the effective ranges, the time to charge... however few of us know how the real differenes between archetypes or how to shoot it effectively. And that includes me! i use the shoot-from-the-feet a lot but I had never thought about using the thumbstick to tighten the spread. I'll give give it a (hehe) shot!
Wow, I've been waiting so long for this, and as always, you didn't disappointed me! I can't wait to try it out, this technique looks awesome! Thank you so much for the incredible video, it seems like it was so hard to make...
+Marco Bessa Hey Marco, when I made this video, I would hope that you would be here :) I remember your last comment. Just like I told Bro2Jns, Go try it on patrol first. Shoot a couple while just aiming down sights, then try to control it. Some of them you have to "slam" down the right stick a bit to compensate them.
Honestly thank you for a video like this! I just started using them and I'm glad I found this video. after watching this, I practiced and had 25 kill with my fusion rifle the game after
Great great tips man. Great explanation and demonstration too. I think I still prefer a good amount of stability for only pushing slightly down on the stick, but this explains it all perfectly and gives everyone options.
The wall test has always been huge for me. I found out that my Party Crasher has some weird secret shot package type perk built into it. No other shot gun has the tight spread that my PC has. Your vid confirms what I've seen with Fusions. I've shot every version into a wall and they all seems consistent with spread regardless of stats. Your tip to control that spread makes a lot of sense. I'll be giving it a shot.
another awesome video! I've always aimed at the knees and let the rifle do the work but I hate doing that because I take that extra time to aim downward so I'm gonna try this for sure, thanks for the tip!
Boom! Dropping a knowledge bomb on us again. Great video! I'm always getting trashed by fusions, but when I try them, they're no good. Hopefully this helps!
thanks for the help man I have been using fusion rifles for a while now but can't semester to get the hang of the low stability ones, this video helped me alot
nice, i didn't know there was other ways of using a fusion I've always assumed stability is a must and i kinda started shooting downwards after discovering i could control the spread by accident but i didnt know how impact or range really worked on fusions. thanx for the vid and ill make sure to share it, Ive got a few friends who have tried to fusion but can't really get it so this should really help
+Michael Armatage Thank you for saying that. Sorry they take a bit long to get out, but most of them time I need specific gameplay to show with what I am talking about. That takes a long time, and editing with the commentary takes like half a day lol.
+CoolGuy Take your time man. Your videos are high quality because you don't rush them. Your statements and commentary are very well thought out and you have the evidence to back them up. Above all, your suggestions are actually helpful, especially when you break down the techniques in ways that the average player can both understand and practice.
I've had a lot of success with the "aim at the knees" method while using Plan C (that exotic perk comes in clutch in pvp sometimes). Definitely going to give this a try soon.
Brilliant video! I love using my Darkblade - it has braced frame, hot swap and danger close and it melts! But hopefully after watching this video it will be even better!
+DixieChumps Fusions are on the up and that is a good thing. Vanilla ones were so accurate and brutal. All you had to do really was just shoot them. Now, they have some patterns to them and you can do really well with them.
Hey CG, wonderful vid as always, incredibly informative. There's currently controversy over whether the Rangefinder perk actually has any impact on Fusions at all. Enthusiast seem equally divided about it. Has your research led you to any conclusions about it? Thanks again for your time and effort getting content like this to us. We appreciate it!
+BWM135 well it's common sense fusions kick up in a relatively straight vertical line and visually you can tell the bolts are coming out in quick succession rather than all at once so my first instinct would be to pull down to stay on my target.
+MixedInterests I think you grossly overestimate the knowledge level of the majority of the gaming public ("Filthy casuals" I think is the term). On the most basic level the guns are different than anything else. Instead of putting the sight on the enemy's head, you aim for their junk, or feet, depending on where they are. We take it for granted because we understand the game (Well, mostly lol). A new player coming from Halo? I doubt it. I don't know what the truth is, neither do you or anyone else. I do think it's in poor taste to passive aggressively go after a content creator because you didn't personally learn anything from his work. Maybe this is common knowledge, maybe it's not. Insinuating the creator made a worthless video and having a "Like duh" session in the comments doesn't do anything to help anyone, or inspire the next generation of blueberries to try the game and become pubstomp fodder for you. If this is amateur hour, seek out content that's more in depth. Unless you already know it all, in which case I don't know what to tell you.
Hey CoolGuy I wanted to thank you for the series. I'm a takentot having come to Destiny in March and haven't gone hard on a console FPS since modwar1 and competitive Halo1 before that. the series has been very enjoyable for a stale console player coming to a new game that is quite far along in the meta with an educated and experienced player base. that all I said I'm curious if you intend to continue the series. I keep stubbing my toe on something you mention several times in the earlier videos especially: what kind of player you are playing to your strengths. perhaps because my game knowledge is still growing and my map knowledge isn't where I want it to be yet but I've been struggling identifying what type of Destiny player i am. could you address this? does class and subclass have an effect? what about primary secondary combinations? in previous fps i play as a midfielder when I am with my team, anchoring the team engaging from long medium range and making most of the callouts for the team and I play as an outflanker when I solo but in Destiny I can't seem to achieve success attempting to do either. i really pick up what you're putting down in these videos. it reminds me of the class sessions I'd host for my halo lan team back in the day. this time I'm the student and id value any input you may have. thanks, stay cool
You and cammy are the only two youtubers that know how to use a fusion rifle lol great video coolguy :) ps if you know the stats for Panta Rhei that would be awesome thanks!
Can't speak for CG, but Panta is really good. Best recoil stat of any fusion (Bolts go straight up). Good charge rate. Kills in 5/7. Vendor roll is good if you like range, a Braced roll is easier to use for potatoes like me. A keeper with a decent roll. Just MHO of course.
+ahmemj0406 Me too bud. The content I get out, I try to make is good. I try to show every part of it. Getting the gameplay takes a good amount of time. I could do things like Xur videos, but I have decided to stay away from them. A lot of content creators do them, and do them well. Way better than I could, so I just kind of stick to my thing. With work, and family, the window I have to make them is small. In between I am recording and playing with friends. I am at work now, and work 3 straight 12 hour days, I got this video up a little after midnight I believe. Thank you for watching the video! I am trying to set up a content schedule, to get more out
Dude you're a genius! I can definitely feel the difference. It takes a little bit to get the charge and how much pressure you need to put on the stick, but It's great!
Still relevant for RoI expansion. DIdn't know how to alter to projectile spread till now. Went from being a shotgun warrior to being apart of the Voopnation. Kills are that much more satisfying with a fusion vs a shotgun.
good to find another cool guy that can slay with fusion rifles... ever given the vortex a spin? very quick chargetime! get rangefinder perk and you can one shot consistently from mid range easy!!!!
I got an "Ahravens" had it for awhile with hip fire, Icarus, and small bore. Pretty good now because they buffed Icarus...but I dismantles it. Got a dark Blades spires with great perks
From my experience, the thesan with accelerated recoil and the sussano have provided the best use in terms of overall performance of fusion rifles. however i terms of faster charging fusions like split shifter pro, although they charge fast, it is hard to consistently one shot opponents because you have to be close...
Wait...people DON'T do this? It's called controlling the recoil. It's pretty much a necessity for every gun in Destiny aside from maybe low rof snipers and the shotguns. You should NEVER try to just let the gun's recoil control the gun, you need to control it yourself, and stability just helps you do that easier. Seriously, are there actually people who thought that they should just let the recoil sort itself out and hope for a kill? I see comments like "great advice" and stuff like that so apparently so and all I have to say is, "what is wrong with you people?" Do you just let an auto rifle recoil up into the sky, NO! Why should that be any different on a fusion rifle? This was a very well made video, I'll give it that, but I had no idea that there were actually people who needed this advice. How did you guys not think to do this? The whole point is to land as much of the burst as possible, and they don't all shoot out at once like a shotgun, so why not try and force them together? Did this really not occur to any of you?
+David Bruder We get it dweeb. How many times are you going to repeat yourself? Its like you dont know you are repeating yourself. Yet there you go repeating yourself. Seriously, just stop repeating yourself.
+David Bruder Thanks for the reply David. I have been doing this for a while now as well. I wondered, why hasn't anyone talked about it? I go on forums and I see players say " X fusion needs at least 60% stability to be viable" Or the " fast charging fusions need at least 90% stability to be consistent" Which I have never found true. Its what you do with the fusion rifle. Every time I read (or watch) someone talk about fusions, I never really saw anyone talk about this. I thought, the best way, is to show visually.Destiny pulls in a diverse crowd. A lot of players don't play first person shooters very much ( and Destiny may be their first). Some players don't know about this, and that is OK. Bottom line, we all want to get better at the games we love. We all want to do well with them, and that is the best part of being a gaming community.
Yes, because people coming from COD and other games have so much experience with Fusion Rifles. And with the *hidden* recoil direction stat knowing *how* to compensate is so easy! Good Lord, some people...
+BWM135 Recoil direction isn't a remote issue with fusion rifles. It's all about keeping it at center mass. I've never missed a fusion rifle shot because the recoil went to the side. That's a problem for primary weapons and high RoF snipers. Also, while I agree with the annoying issue of hidden stats, it simply doesn't apply to this argument at all. Just because CoD was MADE to be an easy game(look it up. It was made to be inclusive to players of all skill levels) doesn't mean Destiny needs to be as well. I have to go, so I can't say much more, so just trust me that this isn't meant to be a mean comment. I wish I could elaborate on my ideas.
I feel like the down push on the thumb stick to control the burst is starting to feel really natural. some shots are just ridiculous when I time it right.
+Maxwell Ihrie I am glad you see it. It is something you have to try yourself. My hope was to explain it well enough for players to be able to go out and do it. To know what they are looking for, and to know that they have done it right. I still play around with my fusions, change the sight to see if the recoil pattern changes, change between low and high stability to see what I can get away with when using it. Kinda lame, but that type is stuff is fun for me when I get a fresh new weapon. Have you tried it in PvP or PvE yet?
I feel rescue mag just doesn't activate as often on my PC+1. Yes, I know the mag no longer fills while on my back but even when holding it I feel like it just never activates.
+Alessandro Marcandoro 1,000 times yes. I didn't cover it, but the range stat has different attributes that make it up. Accuracy, assistance etc. I would use it. Again, stability perks do make them better, but it really doesn't matter to me if there is a stability perk or not.
CoolGuy so what do you think is the best perks? I got one with rangefinder and rifled barrel and I can kill on really long range but on close it's really hard... so I kinda prefer the new one from trials:) I really like using fusions my favorite weapon
It is the real deal. Only fusion with glass. Only fusion with reactive reload. When they proc together, it does something silly like 75 per projectile. You pretty much just have to aim in their general direction. It is really good
+CoolGuy do you have a discord or discussion site I'd love to talk about and discuss things in destiny with you, you definitely know what you are talking about
Cheers, great work guardian! Now I'm curious, what's your favorite fusion rifle? And which one is the easiest to learn? PS: What do you think about the FWC Vortex? According to Mecules spreadsheet it's the fastest charging fusion that kills in 5 Bolts. (source: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GtrNjOBJddXWzXh3rf45eED31XoyfYFUX71JU32tg2E/edit#gid=1859082078)
The only fusion rifle vid in destiny that is done right. Great job man, as usual.
+CammyCakes Gaming the fusion king is here hahahahah
+CammyCakes Gaming Thank you Cammy, You the real MVP
+CammyCakes Gaming you and cool guy are the only ones that seem to get how fun wrecking shop with a fusion is ^^ hope you both keep up the great work^^
+CoolGuy Both of you are... :)
Thank you guys for stopping by and watching my video!
your welcome
Thank you so much for this video dude I love fusion rifles and I had no idea you could do this XD great work
very good video
Love the video man, great numbers and well explained. Can't wait to try it out. I was only a little disappointed that you didn't talk about telesto as its my favourite fusion rifle but I'm still a little unsure of how the damage numbers with the initial impact of the projectiles and the explosion damage of them. I seem to land my one hit kill but the opponent has time to shotgun rush me before they die from the explosion. @coolguy
+coolguy also I know not that many people nowadays will have it but how does glass half full work on the praetorian foil? As I've always found that an interesting perk and it's the only fusion rifle in the game with it. Does it work per shot with the bolts increasing or does it work like normal in the lower end of the mag?
This video was just amazing. It's nice to see someone who actually understands how the range stat works with fusion rifles. I hated what they did to fusion rifles in 2.1, mainly because it really reduced the effectiveness and variety of fusion rifles overall.
Now, it feels great being able to use ANY fusion rifle I want without having to be dependent on stability perks for the most success. Darkblade's Spite is actually my favorite legendary fusion rifle. I was lucky enough to get mine to drop with rifled barrel (the main perk that I look for in medium, to high damage fusion rifles), hotswap, and surrounded (don't care for this) after WEEKS of grinding for it. It is just absolutely AMAZING!
Granted, I do feel that the perks that someone looks for in a fusion rifle will depend on their style. I personally prefer to really push their ranges, so high impact models with high range are my preferred options. Also, most seasoned fusion rifle users have used the charge>ADS trick for a while. Previously however, many would ADS first, and then switch to hipfire since fusion rifles used to have incredible hipfire stability and accuracy.
I will be sharing your video around. :)
+Valakrie2040 Truth, what to look for is up to the user and playstyle. Range is big stat. I didn't cover it, it plays to the accuracy stat of the weapon as well ( big plus, seems to get a little better grouping, hard to confirm so I left it out ) and things like crouching can help as well. Again, dependent on the user and what they find value in. Thanks for the nice reply!
This is by far the best video on Fusion Rifles I've ever seen. Great job man.
I'm a day one player and right here is the best video you can find to explain the functionality of fusions. Save it for later or put it on your list if you wanna master this class of weapon... KUDOS SIR
I'm just going through more tips and stuff for fusions because they're so fun to use. You definitely deserve more recognition for your work CoolGuy. Great in-depth number crunching and good gameplay examples. Keep it up.
This video is a work of brilliance. I feel way more smarter about fusions now. Thank you so much for putting this together. Awesome job, dude.
As a fellow Destiny addict I love your vids, you're one of the few youtubers where I really learn new stuff...
Can't believe I didn't stumble into this until now. I've always been a fusion proponent from the very beginning and even converted some clan mates into using them over shotties. I thought I knew all there was to know about them, but man you've shown me a few new things here. I know Destiny is getting dry, but I really like your content man, keep it up!
watching this video from beginning to end was definitely worth it, no youtuber has gone this in depth into fusion rifles before you in my opinion at least. despite how often you put out content its always high quality, keep it up man, I'll definitely get me a darkblade's spite for that 4 shot bolt
the best video on fusions by far
This is probably the most informative video on FR´s ive ever seen. Well done CoolGuy!
+Jorge González-Páramo I appreciate that Jorge, means a lot. I didn't go into them as much as I wanted to. The goal was to get the shooting technique out. Would have been much longer, and wanted to keep it reasonable time wise
That's perhaps the best thing about the video. I mean, most of us grasp the basics of a FR like the effective ranges, the time to charge... however few of us know how the real differenes between archetypes or how to shoot it effectively. And that includes me! i use the shoot-from-the-feet a lot but I had never thought about using the thumbstick to tighten the spread. I'll give give it a (hehe) shot!
Great video! You're so intelligent and you can explain everything so clearly. By far my favorite UA-camr if I'm looking for tips
Wow, I've been waiting so long for this, and as always, you didn't disappointed me!
I can't wait to try it out, this technique looks awesome!
Thank you so much for the incredible video, it seems like it was so hard to make...
+Marco Bessa Hey Marco, when I made this video, I would hope that you would be here :) I remember your last comment. Just like I told Bro2Jns, Go try it on patrol first. Shoot a couple while just aiming down sights, then try to control it. Some of them you have to "slam" down the right stick a bit to compensate them.
So glad CG is back. This video just proves it. Great video.
Honestly thank you for a video like this! I just started using them and I'm glad I found this video. after watching this, I practiced and had 25 kill with my fusion rifle the game after
Great great tips man. Great explanation and demonstration too. I think I still prefer a good amount of stability for only pushing slightly down on the stick, but this explains it all perfectly and gives everyone options.
The wall test has always been huge for me. I found out that my Party Crasher has some weird secret shot package type perk built into it. No other shot gun has the tight spread that my PC has. Your vid confirms what I've seen with Fusions. I've shot every version into a wall and they all seems consistent with spread regardless of stats. Your tip to control that spread makes a lot of sense. I'll be giving it a shot.
+Jason Hazel Fantastic, come back and tell me how it worked for you!
Dude.. never knew how to do this. After seeing some 'tubers and streamers mapping people, this vid explained it all. Thank you! Subbed as well 👊
This video is the love child of Destiny, and the scientific method.
Awesome video, CoolGuy.
Liked, subscribed and, obviously, commented. :)
another awesome video! I've always aimed at the knees and let the rifle do the work but I hate doing that because I take that extra time to aim downward so I'm gonna try this for sure, thanks for the tip!
Amazing video mate! Best tip I have ever seen in a destiny youtube video! Good on you mate!
Boom! Dropping a knowledge bomb on us again. Great video! I'm always getting trashed by fusions, but when I try them, they're no good. Hopefully this helps!
Awesome video. Very useful and informative. Thank you for the hard work and dedication guardian.
+XblackheartedX Thank you
thanks CG, I took your advice on aiming at the feet from a previous video and now my Darkblades spite is effective!
Yes! Coolguy back with the knowledge dropping videos! Let's go!
thanks for the help man I have been using fusion rifles for a while now but can't semester to get the hang of the low stability ones, this video helped me alot
+Isaiah B Come back and tell me how it works for you!
+CoolGuy will do
Thank you for the help. I have already been doing most of this but I didn't know what the number where so thank you.
You persuaded me to subscribe to your channel after this vid. Outstanding job, keep it up man.
So stoked to train with this method.
Great video. Thanks. I've been doing the aim low technique, but I'll work on adding the others to my bag of tricks.
great video bro. love me some fusion rifle love :)
nice, i didn't know there was other ways of using a fusion I've always assumed stability is a must and i kinda started shooting downwards after discovering i could control the spread by accident but i didnt know how impact or range really worked on fusions. thanx for the vid and ill make sure to share it, Ive got a few friends who have tried to fusion but can't really get it so this should really help
+anime3806 Awesome man, thank you for watching
Very nice video. Your guides are always spot on brother!
+Michael Armatage Thank you for saying that. Sorry they take a bit long to get out, but most of them time I need specific gameplay to show with what I am talking about. That takes a long time, and editing with the commentary takes like half a day lol.
+CoolGuy Take your time man. Your videos are high quality because you don't rush them. Your statements and commentary are very well thought out and you have the evidence to back them up. Above all, your suggestions are actually helpful, especially when you break down the techniques in ways that the average player can both understand and practice.
I've had a lot of success with the "aim at the knees" method while using Plan C (that exotic perk comes in clutch in pvp sometimes). Definitely going to give this a try soon.
Great video. Thanks for sharing your knowledge 👏🏿
Brilliant video! I love using my Darkblade - it has braced frame, hot swap and danger close and it melts! But hopefully after watching this video it will be even better!
+el_rooneyo Come back and let me know
Thanks to this video I'm gonna give fusion rifles a try.
Dope man been looking forward to a good fusion video
+DixieChumps Fusions are on the up and that is a good thing. Vanilla ones were so accurate and brutal. All you had to do really was just shoot them. Now, they have some patterns to them and you can do really well with them.
excellent video. content was well said, given extremely well and I'm interested in using the weapon now.
Great vid, definitely worth the wait
+UnscrewedSMOKE12 Awesome
that's really good advice. combined with Saladin's vigil (and max range) it's so deadly! :)
omg. thx 4 this video. I am loving my fusions now.
Great video even a year later 👍🏼 Well done.
awesome vid man. you're fugn wizard with the fusion.
I have an almost perfect Darkblade's Spite from the first month of TTK with Rangefinder, HLS, and Hidden Hand. It's a beauty
Hey CG, wonderful vid as always, incredibly informative. There's currently controversy over whether the Rangefinder perk actually has any impact on Fusions at all. Enthusiast seem equally divided about it. Has your research led you to any conclusions about it?
Thanks again for your time and effort getting content like this to us. We appreciate it!
yoy analysis and advice is just amazing ! thanks and subscribed
I thought everyone knew this but great video very informative!
Fusions are the most non intuitive weapon type in the game. How would everyone that doesn't read Playbook (Most people) know this stuff?
+BWM135 well it's common sense fusions kick up in a relatively straight vertical line and visually you can tell the bolts are coming out in quick succession rather than all at once so my first instinct would be to pull down to stay on my target.
+MixedInterests I think you grossly overestimate the knowledge level of the majority of the gaming public ("Filthy casuals" I think is the term). On the most basic level the guns are different than anything else. Instead of putting the sight on the enemy's head, you aim for their junk, or feet, depending on where they are. We take it for granted because we understand the game (Well, mostly lol). A new player coming from Halo? I doubt it.
I don't know what the truth is, neither do you or anyone else. I do think it's in poor taste to passive aggressively go after a content creator because you didn't personally learn anything from his work. Maybe this is common knowledge, maybe it's not. Insinuating the creator made a worthless video and having a "Like duh" session in the comments doesn't do anything to help anyone, or inspire the next generation of blueberries to try the game and become pubstomp fodder for you. If this is amateur hour, seek out content that's more in depth. Unless you already know it all, in which case I don't know what to tell you.
Hey CoolGuy I wanted to thank you for the series. I'm a takentot having come to Destiny in March and haven't gone hard on a console FPS since modwar1 and competitive Halo1 before that. the series has been very enjoyable for a stale console player coming to a new game that is quite far along in the meta with an educated and experienced player base. that all I said I'm curious if you intend to continue the series. I keep stubbing my toe on something you mention several times in the earlier videos especially: what kind of player you are playing to your strengths. perhaps because my game knowledge is still growing and my map knowledge isn't where I want it to be yet but I've been struggling identifying what type of Destiny player i am. could you address this? does class and subclass have an effect? what about primary secondary combinations? in previous fps i play as a midfielder when I am with my team, anchoring the team engaging from long medium range and making most of the callouts for the team and I play as an outflanker when I solo but in Destiny I can't seem to achieve success attempting to do either. i really pick up what you're putting down in these videos. it reminds me of the class sessions I'd host for my halo lan team back in the day. this time I'm the student and id value any input you may have. thanks, stay cool
You and cammy are the only two youtubers that know how to use a fusion rifle lol great video coolguy :) ps if you know the stats for Panta Rhei that would be awesome thanks!
+Chris X We are thinking about forming the anit meta team. Playing with things like telesto and legendary hand cannons lol
that sounds awesome!!!!!! you should totally do it! :)
Can't speak for CG, but Panta is really good. Best recoil stat of any fusion (Bolts go straight up). Good charge rate. Kills in 5/7. Vendor roll is good if you like range, a Braced roll is easier to use for potatoes like me. A keeper with a decent roll. Just MHO of course.
I only wish you could post more frequently. great video btw.
+ahmemj0406 Me too bud. The content I get out, I try to make is good. I try to show every part of it. Getting the gameplay takes a good amount of time. I could do things like Xur videos, but I have decided to stay away from them. A lot of content creators do them, and do them well. Way better than I could, so I just kind of stick to my thing. With work, and family, the window I have to make them is small. In between I am recording and playing with friends. I am at work now, and work 3 straight 12 hour days, I got this video up a little after midnight I believe. Thank you for watching the video! I am trying to set up a content schedule, to get more out
Great vid
Definitely going to try this out tomorrow.
+TooTrue Come back and let me know If you see and feel the difference
Dude you're a genius! I can definitely feel the difference. It takes a little bit to get the charge and how much pressure you need to put on the stick, but It's great!
Still relevant for RoI expansion. DIdn't know how to alter to projectile spread till now. Went from being a shotgun warrior to being apart of the Voopnation. Kills are that much more satisfying with a fusion vs a shotgun.
superflyvc yes. getting a multi kill with a fusion against a team of matador weilding thrall is one of the most satisfyingly things in pvp.
Clay Jones oh yes. My fav is getting hate messages saying that Saladin's Vigil is broken hahah
great tips, loved the video :)
love vids like this. Thanks dude!
+Chris D Love comments like this. Thanks dude!
nice video man,really appreciate that
Glad to know i was using them right :D, i tend to miss more with the higher stability fusion rifles :S
good to find another cool guy that can slay with fusion rifles... ever given the vortex a spin? very quick chargetime! get rangefinder perk and you can one shot consistently from mid range easy!!!!
great vid!
Boss video! Gonna try this out for myself :)
I got an "Ahravens" had it for awhile with hip fire, Icarus, and small bore. Pretty good now because they buffed Icarus...but I dismantles it.
Got a dark Blades spires with great perks
COOLGUY IS BAAAAAAAACKKKK!!!!!!!!!!
ive found crouching also helps with accuracy as well. same with max fire rate auto rifles, just crouch and notice the control you obtain.
From my experience, the thesan with accelerated recoil and the sussano have provided the best use in terms of overall performance of fusion rifles. however i terms of faster charging fusions like split shifter pro, although they charge fast, it is hard to consistently one shot opponents because you have to be close...
Thanks heaps CoolGuy, great vid.
+881Gino Welcome, come back after you try it!
Wait...people DON'T do this? It's called controlling the recoil. It's pretty much a necessity for every gun in Destiny aside from maybe low rof snipers and the shotguns. You should NEVER try to just let the gun's recoil control the gun, you need to control it yourself, and stability just helps you do that easier. Seriously, are there actually people who thought that they should just let the recoil sort itself out and hope for a kill? I see comments like "great advice" and stuff like that so apparently so and all I have to say is, "what is wrong with you people?" Do you just let an auto rifle recoil up into the sky, NO! Why should that be any different on a fusion rifle? This was a very well made video, I'll give it that, but I had no idea that there were actually people who needed this advice. How did you guys not think to do this? The whole point is to land as much of the burst as possible, and they don't all shoot out at once like a shotgun, so why not try and force them together? Did this really not occur to any of you?
+David Bruder We get it dweeb. How many times are you going to repeat yourself? Its like you dont know you are repeating yourself. Yet there you go repeating yourself. Seriously, just stop repeating yourself.
+David Bruder Thanks for the reply David. I have been doing this for a while now as well. I wondered, why hasn't anyone talked about it? I go on forums and I see players say " X fusion needs at least 60% stability to be viable" Or the " fast charging fusions need at least 90% stability to be consistent" Which I have never found true. Its what you do with the fusion rifle. Every time I read (or watch) someone talk about fusions, I never really saw anyone talk about this. I thought, the best way, is to show visually.Destiny pulls in a diverse crowd. A lot of players don't play first person shooters very much ( and Destiny may be their first). Some players don't know about this, and that is OK. Bottom line, we all want to get better at the games we love. We all want to do well with them, and that is the best part of being a gaming community.
Yes, because people coming from COD and other games have so much experience with Fusion Rifles. And with the *hidden* recoil direction stat knowing *how* to compensate is so easy! Good Lord, some people...
+BWM135 Recoil direction isn't a remote issue with fusion rifles. It's all about keeping it at center mass. I've never missed a fusion rifle shot because the recoil went to the side. That's a problem for primary weapons and high RoF snipers. Also, while I agree with the annoying issue of hidden stats, it simply doesn't apply to this argument at all. Just because CoD was MADE to be an easy game(look it up. It was made to be inclusive to players of all skill levels) doesn't mean Destiny needs to be as well. I have to go, so I can't say much more, so just trust me that this isn't meant to be a mean comment. I wish I could elaborate on my ideas.
Subbed. Fantastic video.
Great video
Before the April update, this is what I did. Once you get a feel for it, it's really easy.
Amazing guide,
outstanding vid
+Eris Jolley Thank you
wow this is amazing
I feel like the down push on the thumb stick to control the burst is starting to feel really natural. some shots are just ridiculous when I time it right.
You deserve a sub.
Wow. A little hard to get used to but it's like night and day. Turns it into a sniper.
+Maxwell Ihrie I am glad you see it. It is something you have to try yourself. My hope was to explain it well enough for players to be able to go out and do it. To know what they are looking for, and to know that they have done it right. I still play around with my fusions, change the sight to see if the recoil pattern changes, change between low and high stability to see what I can get away with when using it. Kinda lame, but that type is stuff is fun for me when I get a fresh new weapon. Have you tried it in PvP or PvE yet?
great tips
You just got a sub buddy, thumbs up
awesome man, now I should be able to use my hitchhiker better!
I feel rescue mag just doesn't activate as often on my PC+1. Yes, I know the mag no longer fills while on my back but even when holding it I feel like it just never activates.
i ve a darkblade spite which i obtained last month with rangefinder rifled barrel and underdog.I should keep it?p.s fantastic video:)
+Alessandro Marcandoro 1,000 times yes. I didn't cover it, but the range stat has different attributes that make it up. Accuracy, assistance etc. I would use it. Again, stability perks do make them better, but it really doesn't matter to me if there is a stability perk or not.
ok so i've a god roll? hahahahah
So what do you think about Saladins Vigil? is it better then the darkblade one? And is rangefinder worth it on a fusion?
yes and yes. Vigil is the top legendary fusion right now
CoolGuy so what do you think is the best perks? I got one with rangefinder and rifled barrel and I can kill on really long range but on close it's really hard... so I kinda prefer the new one from trials:) I really like using fusions my favorite weapon
also am i right to assume accelerated coils reduces the damage per projectile, cause i never noticed that at all
+anime3806 Yes they do get reduced damage
Avoid AC on any 4 bolt rifle, or lower impact 5 bolt (Long Far Gone, Vortex, Perun's, Frenzy, etc.)
Avoid AC on any 4 bolt rifle, or lower impact 5 bolt (Long Far Gone, Vortex, Perun's, Frenzy, etc.)
Works well with a Thesan. You still need 5 Bolts to kill but get a much faster charge rate.
you could also do this with the messenger
Damnnnnnn. I just dismantled my dark blades spite
Oh I literally just got another one lol
So what does rangefinder do to a fusion rifle?
It increases the range bud :)
+MizZoo Considering that the range stat is actually a projectile speed stat I figured that perk would do something different.
I've been grinding vog hm oracles for that praetorian foil ;)
It is the real deal. Only fusion with glass. Only fusion with reactive reload. When they proc together, it does something silly like 75 per projectile. You pretty much just have to aim in their general direction. It is really good
+CoolGuy oh yeah it's a beast but sadly they nerfed all the year 1 perks on it ;( I wish send it was as good as it used to be
+CoolGuy what are your thoughts on the redonkulous nerfs to year one perks?
+CoolGuy do you have a discord or discussion site I'd love to talk about and discuss things in destiny with you, you definitely know what you are talking about
"does this work with vex too?"
telesto is great because it's fast charge and a 4 bolt kill
Yea but it's slow you'll lose the gunfight against a plan c because it will kill before the explosive damage from telesto
Did you know that if you shooting someone from midair with a fusion rifle the projectiles land better from the hip
We've gotta talk fusions sometime CoolGuy. Crates and I would love to play with you sometime.
TrueVanguard v. Cool guy w/fusions?
+Christian Felux TV would whoop me up and down twilight gap lol
+CoolGuy I'd still love to see that matchup! Great vid, too. Fusion school! :)
I suck with fusions, which do you use?
Specifically the one at 1:20
+2 Kipp Gaming _ Ashravens Flight. Iron Banner fusion
1:22 Fucking savage, he never saw it coming.
And come to think of it, how did you?
+Hawkmoona Matata He just ended up there lol. I saw him coming and timed it right I guess. ( I would have been so mad lol)
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Yup
Cheers, great work guardian!
Now I'm curious, what's your favorite fusion rifle?
And which one is the easiest to learn?
PS: What do you think about the FWC Vortex?
According to Mecules spreadsheet it's the fastest charging fusion that kills in 5 Bolts.
(source: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GtrNjOBJddXWzXh3rf45eED31XoyfYFUX71JU32tg2E/edit#gid=1859082078)
been 131 days since the last weapon balance smh
I love your vids and your advice but your name is just killing me LOL LOL :-)