Interesting how they all remembered the Doctor Who Van Gogh episode yet forgot the core moment in the episode where they realized that Van Gogh still committed suicide and it was incredibly sad. That was a rough one.
@@Ongomar Don't get me wrong -- I agree. My music brain is trapped in the 60's and 70's and I despise most modern artists. I just find it hilarious how this is the hill Sips is willing to die on.
I grew up around cattle ranchers, cattle prod fights are literally what we did from the age of 5. now of course its more elaborate and we aren't allowed to shock my oldest cosin because of his heart problems but it still happens. lol
Haha we had one in our uni house, ordered it online from a farm supplier. We would shock ourselves with it before a night out and play cattle prod roulette. Hurt like a bitch, but also the pain is so short lived that you forget about it instantly. Works just like they intended it to. Gets a hungover uni student out of bed lickedy split!
I love that Pyrion says albums are dead. While I remember a podcast where his response to sips or lewis saying albums are dead was: what do uyou meaan! everyone is still putting out albums! ;p
I remember this as well. People can change their minds but when Pyrion is so adamant that his opinions are fact and others are wrong, he looks like a fool when he's proven wrong in the end, which happens often 😂
Except Prion is absolutely right. The vast majority of humans are complete uncultured morons who have no interest in fine art even if they have heard of the artist. You only need to look at the viewing figures for reality tv trash compared to actual intelligent programming to see that. And that's just one example out of everything on the tv, on the internet, in print. Society is ruled by the lowest common denominator; and that, particularly in our current entertainment obsessed society, is a knuckle-dragging dipshit. Always remember, the idiots in our society outnumber the smart people by 50 to 1.
Now this is an Avengers level threat, Adele, an amazing singer and songwriter vs Sips, a middle aged dad who lives in Jeresy and plays video games in his garage, it will be a battle for the ages
@@ryanyates6761 she literally writes all her songs herself, she’s credited as the sole lyric writer and only has one co-writer which is usually the producer. She’s got plenty SOLELY written songs one of them being her debut single Hometown glory. She plays multiple instruments on her albums. Just say you’re a hater and you can’t access Google and leave
I’m actually pretty sure the Dr Who episode where they show Van Gogh his own exhibition still ends with Vincent killing himself (off-screen). I might be remembering wrong but I think he comes in, sees his exhibition, is overcome with emotion, Matt Smith slaps him on the back and sends him back to 18whatever Holland, and then they have another pass at the exhibition and Amy Pond notices a brochure or something that still mentions that he killed himself about 9 months after they bumped into him. It’s sort of implied that maybe it’s the jolt and disbelief and shock from the experience he has of seeing the future that destabilises him
Pretty sure he was already unstable and giving up. They just have him hope. But nine months is a long time, and they never came back and his situation didn’t improve. Pretty sure it’s just that it takes more than a week to cure mental illness.
I don't think that was implied at all... The clear message is that mental health is serious and all you can do sometimes is to add to other people's "good" memories pile.
Same. Then he lumped them into the nu metal genre like, half a minute later and I quickly realized that Pyrion has no clue what he's talking about when it comes to this lol.
"What if the Wutang Clan opened for Adele", tbh it would be incredible to go to; even just for the juxtaposition of it all xD But I'm with Pyrion, I'm not a big fan of Adele, but hell she can sing!
It's not looking good for bald guys in the 25th century. Look at Picard. Some guy comes to the medical bay, "Doc, I got radiation cancer in my balls!" Doc pulls up a medical tool, "Zing Beep Boop!" There you go ensign, cured. Picard is like, "Doc.. this is embarrasing, but anything you can do about my lack of hair?" "Captain, we do medicine here, not miracles!"
Maybe they just accepted there's nothing wrong with being bald. After all, Voyager's EMH could have given himself more hair at any time, but he never bothered. And he was probably the most vain person on the ship.
Lewlew is such a odd bag. I mom did listen to Queen when I was a kid and I ended up loving it, not hating it as it was something my mother listened to.
Funny how Gene Roddenberry, the supposed anti-capitalist, was also quite happy to rip off the composer by writing fake lyrics just so he could take a cut out of the royalties, and had a personal lawyer to thug around scripts he didn't like until he got his way. Anti-semetism isn't all that surprising.
As someone who specifically flew to Bristol to see The Longest Johns, I'm always very happy when they get mentioned on the podcast and my interests cross over
As a younger listener, 90s music and especially rap is NOT considered boomer music. It’s more like “OG” music. And of course there are certain classics just like in Rock that EVERYONE knows and a lot of people are still fans of the genre even if they don’t listen to it regularly. Like I have a 90s playlist but I don’t listen to it as much as the rappers I grew up with.
I've never seen a real cattle prod let alone been tazed, but at my mate's sixteenth we got drunk on cheap bourbon and he made a shock wand out of an electric fly swat; like a tennis racquet thing but with metal wires and supplied with an electric current from either side. He just broke the swatter off and drove a screw into each side of the handle where the wires were, and all night when whoever had to take a leak came back into the room we would shock them on the arm as they pushed the door open. Yeah it hurt, but no one ever thought to be careful opening doors the whole night. Slightly less related, when I was younger still I went to change a bulb in the reading light over my bed since it had been dead for ages and I was sick of using a torch. The switch for the light happened to be a push-button with no visual indication whether it was on or off, but I was it didn't matter since it would of course be off, and either way it didn't matter since the new bulb would light up as I put it in and I could just pull it back out and switch it off. What did matter is that I already removed the dead bulb then forgot about it, so I plunged my hand in expecting to meet resistance but instead drove my fingers straight into the terminals of the bayonet fixture. It felt more like an explosion than a shock and the last thing I remember is surprised confusion at the force with which my arm was being driven back even as I realised (far too slowly) what was happening. I must have passed out from sheer (genuinely no pun intended) shock, because next thing I knew I was flat on my back; by dumb luck only falling as far as the mattress I was standing on.
29:20 Hat Films are looking around sheepishly and whistling at this statement lol. Co-incidentally though, while their geography is quite terrible (or was before geoguessr) the boiks pay much more attention to famous historical artists and writers than I ever have.
And the Klingons. I think the idea was that the problems weren't due to their races, they were due to leadership and past tradition. For both races, it just took a few good people obtaining power to begin revolutionizing their societies. Dang, I knew race was a huge theme for DS9, but I'm now realizing how many different angles they addressed it from. It's such an underrated series.
I've never been able to get into spotify or the like. Whether it's a big playlist of favorites or a great album I still curate the music I'm listening to.
The gag is Adele’s shows are HILARIOUS in between songs she is a literal stand up comedian even haters adore her. Also Adele’s set lists are pretty great with the balance of ballads, mid and uptempo songs.
The van gogh exhibit is neat but there's one part that sucks where they project starry night on all screens and simultaneously have all of them panning downwards simultaneously. Sudden motion weariness is not what i expected going to an art exhibit
Nu metal is characteised by riffs which are somewhere between zero quality and rubbish. RATM had riffs. Them and bands like Prong may have influenced it but certainly weren't it.
The thing about Star Trek aliens being humanoid makes sense in multiple ways. Firstly, they aren't all humanoid. There's plenty of episodes across all the Star Trek series where they encounter aliens who are very much not humanoid. It's just that there's not likely to be many points of commonality between humans and a giant space whale, or whatever, so that isn't made the focus of the show. It would be pretty boring if the plot had gone 'We met an amorphous blob today. It might have been intelligent but we couldn't communicate with it so we just left. End of Captain's Log.' Furthermore, the species that are focussed on in the series tend to be ones that not only can the Federation communicate with, but actually interact with, i.e. oxygen-nitrogen breathing bipeds from relatively Earth-like worlds. There are other species out there but again, it wouldn't make for much of a story. Lastly, and related to the second point, the humanoid body plan just makes sense, particularly for species from similar planets. Humans didn't evolve the way we did by chance; we are the way we are because that gives us the most advantages, honed by millions of years of evolution. We walk upright because it allows us to keep our hands free to carry things or perform other tasks. We have 2 front-facing eyes because it improves our vision. We have our brains and sensory organs in our heads because it's more efficient to have them all close together like that. We have hair because it's a very effective way to protect us from certain elements of our environment. The list goes on. It makes sense that species from other similar planets would evolve in much the same way we have. Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.
I dunno, it’s interesting. Sometimes he comes of snooty, sometimes I think he’s pretty realistic. He’s not always on a high horse, he’s pretty matter of fact half the time. He’s not wrong. A lot of people couldn’t give two shits about Van Gogh, and he’s even kind of saying that’s fine. People just want to live their lives and be in the moment and that’s fine
I think it might just be their island dwelling nature. I wish they just stuck to talking about jugging and has been celebrities. Uneducated opinions of 40 something year old man babies can be triggering sometimes. Same goes for hat films podcast.
There's definitely racism in Star Trek. Picard just wouldn't put up with most of it. Even Worf was racist in some ways, and it completely ruined his relationship with his son. There was something like racism against Data. There was definitely a lot less in TNG, though. DS9 was practically 100% about racism. I'd bet that most people wouldn't recognize every piece of art Vincent Van Gogh painted, but if you asked people to name one thing he painted, I'm sure most people could. And yes, people would throw tantrums if some of his work was painted over. Remember how many people were devastated a few years ago that Notre Dame will be *different* now? Here in the US, I'm sure most people had never been there and will never go, but they were still incredibly sad. I mean, it's obviously always sad to lose a piece of history, but it certainly isn't the first time Notre Dame has changed. The reconstruction will just be a part of its history now. But Van Gogh's paintings were definitely meant to never change. Imagine how many more people would be in an uproar. I think it would be all over social media for more than a week, which is forever in social media. Experts in painting restoration would suddenly be hugely popular. People would be listening to every word they said, and before long, it would seem like everyone considered themselves to be experts because they'd watched six videos about it. There would be relationship-ending fights between people who were angry and people who brushed it off because "it's just a painting." It would intensify complaints about artwork being "just another tax loophole." This is exactly the kind of thing people love to be enraged about.
Of course the cattle prod is cruel. Imagine if it were you. Why is it so hard to wrap your head around this? Also, farmers are cruel to their animals fundamentally as standard practise (written in laws what they need to do/what passes as welfare). CosmicSkeptic's animal rights speech touches on this. He was a massive meat eater by the way.
Interesting how they all remembered the Doctor Who Van Gogh episode yet forgot the core moment in the episode where they realized that Van Gogh still committed suicide and it was incredibly sad. That was a rough one.
Sips really isn't going to let this one rest.
Nor should he! Adele is freaking awful
@@Ongomar Don't get me wrong -- I agree. My music brain is trapped in the 60's and 70's and I despise most modern artists. I just find it hilarious how this is the hill Sips is willing to die on.
I grew up around cattle ranchers, cattle prod fights are literally what we did from the age of 5. now of course its more elaborate and we aren't allowed to shock my oldest cosin because of his heart problems but it still happens. lol
Haha we did the same thing! It’s a legit thing to do as a ranch kid I swear!
Haha we had one in our uni house, ordered it online from a farm supplier. We would shock ourselves with it before a night out and play cattle prod roulette. Hurt like a bitch, but also the pain is so short lived that you forget about it instantly. Works just like they intended it to. Gets a hungover uni student out of bed lickedy split!
I love that Pyrion says albums are dead. While I remember a podcast where his response to sips or lewis saying albums are dead was: what do uyou meaan! everyone is still putting out albums!
;p
I remember this as well. People can change their minds but when Pyrion is so adamant that his opinions are fact and others are wrong, he looks like a fool when he's proven wrong in the end, which happens often 😂
@@mr.j4696 I'm okay with adamant opinions changing, the problem is when he doesn't remember he used to hold the opposing view lol
there's always a common theme with these podcasts. There's always one person with a completely insane opinion. This time it was Pyrion on Van Gogh
Except Prion is absolutely right. The vast majority of humans are complete uncultured morons who have no interest in fine art even if they have heard of the artist. You only need to look at the viewing figures for reality tv trash compared to actual intelligent programming to see that. And that's just one example out of everything on the tv, on the internet, in print.
Society is ruled by the lowest common denominator; and that, particularly in our current entertainment obsessed society, is a knuckle-dragging dipshit. Always remember, the idiots in our society outnumber the smart people by 50 to 1.
29:01 I think more people were pissed/distressed by the destruction of Palmyra than the plight of Syria.
Now this is an Avengers level threat, Adele, an amazing singer and songwriter vs Sips, a middle aged dad who lives in Jeresy and plays video games in his garage, it will be a battle for the ages
Sips Has that dad strength tho. I reckon it would be a blood bath
songwriter is pushing it a bit
Eeepa it's gonna be tense!
@@ryanyates6761 she literally writes all her songs herself, she’s credited as the sole lyric writer and only has one co-writer which is usually the producer. She’s got plenty SOLELY written songs one of them being her debut single Hometown glory. She plays multiple instruments on her albums. Just say you’re a hater and you can’t access Google and leave
I’m actually pretty sure the Dr Who episode where they show Van Gogh his own exhibition still ends with Vincent killing himself (off-screen). I might be remembering wrong but I think he comes in, sees his exhibition, is overcome with emotion, Matt Smith slaps him on the back and sends him back to 18whatever Holland, and then they have another pass at the exhibition and Amy Pond notices a brochure or something that still mentions that he killed himself about 9 months after they bumped into him. It’s sort of implied that maybe it’s the jolt and disbelief and shock from the experience he has of seeing the future that destabilises him
Pretty sure he was already unstable and giving up. They just have him hope. But nine months is a long time, and they never came back and his situation didn’t improve. Pretty sure it’s just that it takes more than a week to cure mental illness.
I don't think that was implied at all... The clear message is that mental health is serious and all you can do sometimes is to add to other people's "good" memories pile.
i audibly gasped when pyrion said the offspring were shit
Same. Then he lumped them into the nu metal genre like, half a minute later and I quickly realized that Pyrion has no clue what he's talking about when it comes to this lol.
"What if the Wutang Clan opened for Adele", tbh it would be incredible to go to; even just for the juxtaposition of it all xD But I'm with Pyrion, I'm not a big fan of Adele, but hell she can sing!
I cannot believe lewis said the thing about knowing people who look like aliens to pyrion
You know it's gonna be a good one, when the name of the episode give you a hardy chuckle
Totally true haha. "Vietnam, smiley face, lol" was one of my favorites
It's not looking good for bald guys in the 25th century. Look at Picard. Some guy comes to the medical bay, "Doc, I got radiation cancer in my balls!" Doc pulls up a medical tool, "Zing Beep Boop!" There you go ensign, cured. Picard is like, "Doc.. this is embarrasing, but anything you can do about my lack of hair?" "Captain, we do medicine here, not miracles!"
Maybe they just accepted there's nothing wrong with being bald. After all, Voyager's EMH could have given himself more hair at any time, but he never bothered. And he was probably the most vain person on the ship.
I recall an old YoGPoD episode called LHC and Politics and this episode reminded me of that for a spell
Cattle prods are usually only used when your trying to get them moved through pens. Usually when we are branding them.
My favourite time of the week! Two and a half Dads
Pyrion I really starting to dislike his view point. Feel sorry for his partner and his offspring... Getting a ear full of that all the time.
Red Hot Chili Peppers and The Offspring nu metal?! You take that back!
Lewlew is such a odd bag. I mom did listen to Queen when I was a kid and I ended up loving it, not hating it as it was something my mother listened to.
The Ferengi were the most blatant Jewish caricatures, but they really did become the best Trek species over the course of DS9
"They're greedy capitalists so they must be jewish caricatures."
Projecting much?
@@ze_rubenator That is a known trope in movies books to have the greedy race/monster to represent Jewish people. It is not racist to point that out.
Funny how Gene Roddenberry, the supposed anti-capitalist, was also quite happy to rip off the composer by writing fake lyrics just so he could take a cut out of the royalties, and had a personal lawyer to thug around scripts he didn't like until he got his way. Anti-semetism isn't all that surprising.
As someone who specifically flew to Bristol to see The Longest Johns, I'm always very happy when they get mentioned on the podcast and my interests cross over
Did you catch the stream they did together?
@@TehMillionkill I did! It's still a great source of serotonin
I heard the words "Fuck Kate Bush" and immediately bounced. Not having that.
49:14 I think sips might be on to something because as a kid I watched WWE and listen to limp bizkit 😂
As a younger listener, 90s music and especially rap is NOT considered boomer music. It’s more like “OG” music. And of course there are certain classics just like in Rock that EVERYONE knows and a lot of people are still fans of the genre even if they don’t listen to it regularly. Like I have a 90s playlist but I don’t listen to it as much as the rappers I grew up with.
Figures. I finally find the e-mail for the podcast and they don't do a mailbag.... -.-
Nobody cared about the Ecce Homo until it was restored badly and that was 2012 anger which was tamer than what people can whip up these day.
"human nature is to avoid conflict" riiiiight, sure
Thanks for the Sam Fender recommend 🎶🎶
oh god not more star trek conversation
Why am I not surprised with the title of this pod
I've never seen a real cattle prod let alone been tazed, but at my mate's sixteenth we got drunk on cheap bourbon and he made a shock wand out of an electric fly swat; like a tennis racquet thing but with metal wires and supplied with an electric current from either side. He just broke the swatter off and drove a screw into each side of the handle where the wires were, and all night when whoever had to take a leak came back into the room we would shock them on the arm as they pushed the door open. Yeah it hurt, but no one ever thought to be careful opening doors the whole night.
Slightly less related, when I was younger still I went to change a bulb in the reading light over my bed since it had been dead for ages and I was sick of using a torch. The switch for the light happened to be a push-button with no visual indication whether it was on or off, but I was it didn't matter since it would of course be off, and either way it didn't matter since the new bulb would light up as I put it in and I could just pull it back out and switch it off. What did matter is that I already removed the dead bulb then forgot about it, so I plunged my hand in expecting to meet resistance but instead drove my fingers straight into the terminals of the bayonet fixture. It felt more like an explosion than a shock and the last thing I remember is surprised confusion at the force with which my arm was being driven back even as I realised (far too slowly) what was happening. I must have passed out from sheer (genuinely no pun intended) shock, because next thing I knew I was flat on my back; by dumb luck only falling as far as the mattress I was standing on.
29:20 Hat Films are looking around sheepishly and whistling at this statement lol. Co-incidentally though, while their geography is quite terrible (or was before geoguessr) the boiks pay much more attention to famous historical artists and writers than I ever have.
C’mon, Pyrion, you’re just now figuring out Lewis doesn’t like bush?
To be fair, the Ferengi start moving in a better direction societally towards the end of DS9.
And the Klingons. I think the idea was that the problems weren't due to their races, they were due to leadership and past tradition. For both races, it just took a few good people obtaining power to begin revolutionizing their societies.
Dang, I knew race was a huge theme for DS9, but I'm now realizing how many different angles they addressed it from. It's such an underrated series.
I've never been able to get into spotify or the like. Whether it's a big playlist of favorites or a great album I still curate the music I'm listening to.
The gag is Adele’s shows are HILARIOUS in between songs she is a literal stand up comedian even haters adore her. Also Adele’s set lists are pretty great with the balance of ballads, mid and uptempo songs.
I like it better when you have fun and do comedy, spending 30 minutes calling people you disagree with stupid isn't very fun to listen to.
"Can't even name another famous artist." Fucking Leonardo DaVinci? Cmon guys he's the most famous visual artist that ever lived, van goh ain't shit.
The van gogh exhibit is neat but there's one part that sucks where they project starry night on all screens and simultaneously have all of them panning downwards simultaneously. Sudden motion weariness is not what i expected going to an art exhibit
BUT but but, that episode had Frank Gorshen
Was about to be very disappointed in this with the new metal take, until sips came in with the RATM
Nu metal is characteised by riffs which are somewhere between zero quality and rubbish. RATM had riffs. Them and bands like Prong may have influenced it but certainly weren't it.
Pyrion seems very pissed off in this episode
What a title
The thing about Star Trek aliens being humanoid makes sense in multiple ways.
Firstly, they aren't all humanoid. There's plenty of episodes across all the Star Trek series where they encounter aliens who are very much not humanoid. It's just that there's not likely to be many points of commonality between humans and a giant space whale, or whatever, so that isn't made the focus of the show. It would be pretty boring if the plot had gone 'We met an amorphous blob today. It might have been intelligent but we couldn't communicate with it so we just left. End of Captain's Log.'
Furthermore, the species that are focussed on in the series tend to be ones that not only can the Federation communicate with, but actually interact with, i.e. oxygen-nitrogen breathing bipeds from relatively Earth-like worlds. There are other species out there but again, it wouldn't make for much of a story.
Lastly, and related to the second point, the humanoid body plan just makes sense, particularly for species from similar planets. Humans didn't evolve the way we did by chance; we are the way we are because that gives us the most advantages, honed by millions of years of evolution. We walk upright because it allows us to keep our hands free to carry things or perform other tasks. We have 2 front-facing eyes because it improves our vision. We have our brains and sensory organs in our heads because it's more efficient to have them all close together like that. We have hair because it's a very effective way to protect us from certain elements of our environment. The list goes on. It makes sense that species from other similar planets would evolve in much the same way we have.
Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.
I like to imagine Adele is watching this
I love you guys but sometimes pyrion needs to be slapped
Very good
I would say jive
Lmao these dudes on "the album is dead"
The chi peps
I'm pretty sure Adele would beat sips in a fight
WOOO!
Sips has no idea what he is talking about with the next gen and most topics. At least it's entertaining.
pflax at 20:15
Opening with some really questionable opinions vis a vis animal rights there.
Dunno mate, Germany? Hahahaha
#hello its me#
I have lost almost all respect for Lewis after hearing him dismiss Kate Bush like that.
Lewis' pronunciation of Van Gogh is excruciating, it's even worse than how he says centaur!
Pyrion’s destain of the intelligence of average people is actually quite gross and snooty
He's right though.
I dunno, it’s interesting. Sometimes he comes of snooty, sometimes I think he’s pretty realistic. He’s not always on a high horse, he’s pretty matter of fact half the time. He’s not wrong. A lot of people couldn’t give two shits about Van Gogh, and he’s even kind of saying that’s fine. People just want to live their lives and be in the moment and that’s fine
I think it might just be their island dwelling nature. I wish they just stuck to talking about jugging and has been celebrities. Uneducated opinions of 40 something year old man babies can be triggering sometimes. Same goes for hat films podcast.
sips is so right about adele tho
Lewis is right on Kate bush
There's definitely racism in Star Trek. Picard just wouldn't put up with most of it. Even Worf was racist in some ways, and it completely ruined his relationship with his son. There was something like racism against Data. There was definitely a lot less in TNG, though. DS9 was practically 100% about racism.
I'd bet that most people wouldn't recognize every piece of art Vincent Van Gogh painted, but if you asked people to name one thing he painted, I'm sure most people could. And yes, people would throw tantrums if some of his work was painted over.
Remember how many people were devastated a few years ago that Notre Dame will be *different* now? Here in the US, I'm sure most people had never been there and will never go, but they were still incredibly sad. I mean, it's obviously always sad to lose a piece of history, but it certainly isn't the first time Notre Dame has changed. The reconstruction will just be a part of its history now. But Van Gogh's paintings were definitely meant to never change. Imagine how many more people would be in an uproar.
I think it would be all over social media for more than a week, which is forever in social media. Experts in painting restoration would suddenly be hugely popular. People would be listening to every word they said, and before long, it would seem like everyone considered themselves to be experts because they'd watched six videos about it. There would be relationship-ending fights between people who were angry and people who brushed it off because "it's just a painting." It would intensify complaints about artwork being "just another tax loophole." This is exactly the kind of thing people love to be enraged about.
Wideo time
Ninja was bigger than Van Gogh
Was? What happened :/
@@tarnyowl6068 he died of ligma :/
@@Watam8o whats ligma balls?
Wow I got to this 46 seconds after it was posted LMAO🤣
Of course the cattle prod is cruel. Imagine if it were you. Why is it so hard to wrap your head around this?
Also, farmers are cruel to their animals fundamentally as standard practise (written in laws what they need to do/what passes as welfare). CosmicSkeptic's animal rights speech touches on this. He was a massive meat eater by the way.