It kicks pretty good when you first start it. Im sure with a lot of use Id learn to compensate for it. The SKIL is more controllable and easier to use out of the box. Thanks for watching!
That was a common comment in the last vid and a failure on my part. Should have been in this demo. I'll try and remember when we revisit this with pneumatic palm nailers. Thanks for watching!!
Mike, I'm so old, I hadn't seen a cordless palm nailer before this video. If I were still in business, I could see myself being interested. Hate the ads, by the way. BTW, holding the nail with your hand to start is much more manly. I'm sure those complaining were the, "makers," who surfaced during COVID and now have all the answers. Hey, why not put it in an index card to start off? Then, you can just rip the card out from underneath...gag me.
We're up in the Wisconsin Dells (famous Midwestern family tourist trap) and I'm jammed in an indoor water park with about 10K annoyed looking parents watching my 6 yr old run around like a wild animal. This comment made ma laugh so loud a bunch of ppl turned around and looked at me like I was crazy! LOL.....makers......🤣
@@ProjectsForAllReviews I'm glad your kids are having fun just being kids. As for the annoyed parents, you can guess what I think. Mike, keep doing the great work and parenting.
Yep. I'll admit it is easier to use with pliers but I far too lazy to go back to the tool box for them. Im a make it work kinda guy. Thanks for watching Louis!!
I purchased the Skill auto hammer. It works great I've even used it to knock out ATV ball joints, A Arm bushings, even used it on my trucks wheel studs
Seems like if you took the hammer and shroud off the Milwaukee palm nailer and slapped it on the Skil autohammer, it'd be the perfect tool. Might even be enough to get me using nails again - been using decking screws, lag bolts, and drywall screws for so long I almost forget how to swing a hammer. Stay awesome, Mike. Keep them reviews coming!
I agree about the shroud. The Milwaukee is much better as a framing tool for that reason. Im with you on the nail thing too. Unless your framing or need the shear strength for hanging stair stringers or similar, Id take decking/wood screws any day. Last time a bought and used nails was for stringer hangers when I replaced the stair case on the front of my house about four years ago. Thanks for always watching Jeff!!
I can tell you from personal experience they are a little more powerful and the more you spend on the air one the better they get. I've had botich hf and senco cheap is cheap for a reason. In the end do you wanna deag a hose around?
I bought mine on Amazon about 6 months ago for $60 with battery and charger. It is great for tight areas I have just about all of skil 12v line and 4 or 5 20v tools from them.
I paid $45 for the Skil kit a couple months ago on super sale. The price is always different on Amazon and if you're patient you can get a sweet deal on this one. Thanks for watching!!
That palm nailer is way too big for tight spot, I'll go for Skil auto hammer, since I already nail guns. It's only useful in a tight spot or doing joist hanger nails.
The Milwaukee is pretty big, I'll give you that. I think the thing to do is order a bunch of pneumatic palm nailers and do this vid again in a tight spot scenario. This is a popular topic so very good chance well do it soon. Thanks for watching Tom!!
It seems to me that they could all benefit from a better design to hold the nails initially. I'm going to need something like this when I install some smaller replacement windows into existing larger openings. I like the fact that the Skil requires less space above the nail. I don't like that the Skil would require yet another battery platform, but at least it's inexpensive!
Mike I’m a little disappointed you didn’t review the reverse function of these hammers! How do they do at getting the nails out? lol. Great video as always!
I own both. I use Skil for smaller projects and tight spaces. I use the Milwaukee if I must go through hundreds of nails daily. If speed is not a concern use the Skil, your hand will thank you after a hard work day.
Fyi the skill has more power in the straight head configuration 20% or more. Like stated in the other video the skill is the better for me. Ive had both and the size of the m12 is crazy and I found it much less controllable. Thanks as I suggested using the 4ah it really wakes it up. For thoes wondering metal romex staples is part of what I use it for. I also use it for smaller cut nails and it does fine (nice barn spikes there). Historic houses ussaly require us to match the fasteners and you guessed it cut nails! In the end size controllable and all thoes other factors even ticos (joist hammer nails) skill will actually fit 😆 makes it the winner for me. I have many air ones too and I can't do the hose anymore such a trip hazard and it's smaller but not worth the setup. Thanks for the update video letting reassuring me of my experience as well.
Thanks for the insight! I failed again to demo the Skil with the head in different positions 🤦♂️ Pretty sure were going to do this again with some pneumatic nailers in some tight spots and Ill try and remember to show it. We'll get some different hardware too. Thanks for watching Matt!
Don't forget too you can fit anything the right diameter down the center of it and make it a air chisel or body hammer. You can even take sds max bits grind the shafts down to fit in. Ive used one to drive grounding rods in tight spaces before under a overhang with a bottle of water.
Great comparison! But, I just don’t;t know if the average homeowner needs these. Now days, unless you are doing framing it usually screws! I have been in our home for 20 years and have done all kinds of projects from flooring, kitchen remodel, building raised garden beds and the amount of time I have used a hammer and nails have been slim. Yes, brad nailers many times, and an actual hammer and small nail in a picture hanger that too. But that’s about it.
@@militarymann8456 Well you are correct about that. But for most home projects (like putting up cabinets) you are going to use screws and for trim work a brad nailer. For my raised beds I used large hex bolts and construction brackets. One interesting thing: If you have ever seen the contractor guy on HGTV shows from Canada (Mike Holmes - Make It Right), years ago he did some project for an Oprah thing here in Southern California and when he was framing he didn’t understand why we used nails instead of screws (maybe that’s wha it’s used in Canada?). Of course the reason is California homes need to “flex” in earthquakes and screws would not allow that.
Seems like the skill has adequate power, control and a decent price. The Milwaukee is a “BEAST” lotta power, less control and a heftier price, but would probably have a longer life than the Skil. Which was more comfortable to repeatedly use MIKE? Great showdown!⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Good summary! Based solely on comfort in the hand, Skil wins for sure. They serve the same function overall but I thought they were different enough that it made an interesting comparison. Thanks for always watching!
Just looking at these, the skill got the design right. If you’re using it in tight spots, it’s gotta be small. I have had to nail by hammering a flat bar that is on a nail head to get it in since there was so little room. That Milwaukee wouldn’t fit in most areas that feature would be useful.
This was a common comment in the last vid and I should have shown a demo in this one. Good chance we're going to do another comparison and throw in some pneumatic palm nailers. I'll try and remember for the next one. Thanks for watching Andrew!
Yup....I teased that one and got slammed with a bunch of cool stuff sent over from various companies. Ill make it a priority and well do it in the next few weeks. Thanks for watching!
I think one last vid with these with some pneumatic palm nailers and a tight space demo would be a good idea. Ill try and slot it into next months schedule. Thanks for watching Franks!
148 bare tool vs 119 with a battery I’d still pick the m18 but the m12 batteries do suck that’s why it has a strap if you drop that battery the clips will brake off
I don't doubt its happened but Ive dropped every M12 tool I own off a ladder more times than I could count. No broken clips on the batteries yet for me. Thanks for watching!!
Really? Who the hell complains about holding a nail with your fingers? I drive 8D nails home in 2 hits, and I guarantee my first hit is harder than either of those tools will do. That said, if I was using one of those it would be in close quarters where I couldn't swing a hammer. In that case it looks like the Skil will fit better in small spaces. I still use my pneumatic palm nailer in those scenarios, and I'm pretty sure it will fit in spaces where neither of those won't. If I ever decided to go battery operated I'd get the Skil for the lower profile.
I thought they were surprisingly different both in form factor and operation but technically you could use either as long as they physically fit in the space your working in. Thanks for watching!
This is the first long form video not edited 100% by me. I usually edit a little tighter and remove that stuff to keep the vid moving but time constraints (I'm on vacation) didn't allow for move revisions, so I let it ride this time. Maybe I should leave some of this stuff in, what do you guys think?
You should have practiced first, that alone makes the review biased IMO. You could not drive one straight nail, after all, no one buys a tool like this without a specific use case and some level of expertise, if not initially, then in a prolonged used case, like an older home renovation where studs/ framing can get tight. This review seems like the worst case scenario for all the wrong reasons. You really need to do better IMO. All the best, take care.
These videos are a "first look" type of review, not an "I'm an expert with this tool" review. As he said, these tools are designed for very different uses. The Milwaukee is a professional tool that will drive nails fast every day and the Skil is a "consumer" level tool which probably would not last in a heavy use scenario. There was no bias in this video.If you think there was, you clearly don't understand the meaning of the word.
I have them Milwaukee, there’s definitely a learning curve to that thing. I used it like 6 times, and I’ve had it for about 6 years.
It kicks pretty good when you first start it. Im sure with a lot of use Id learn to compensate for it. The SKIL is more controllable and easier to use out of the box. Thanks for watching!
I like the skil form factor and the different positions I can move the head into, If you did the skil strait instead of at a 90 it has more power.
That was a common comment in the last vid and a failure on my part. Should have been in this demo. I'll try and remember when we revisit this with pneumatic palm nailers. Thanks for watching!!
Mike, I'm so old, I hadn't seen a cordless palm nailer before this video. If I were still in business, I could see myself being interested. Hate the ads, by the way. BTW, holding the nail with your hand to start is much more manly. I'm sure those complaining were the, "makers," who surfaced during COVID and now have all the answers. Hey, why not put it in an index card to start off? Then, you can just rip the card out from underneath...gag me.
We're up in the Wisconsin Dells (famous Midwestern family tourist trap) and I'm jammed in an indoor water park with about 10K annoyed looking parents watching my 6 yr old run around like a wild animal. This comment made ma laugh so loud a bunch of ppl turned around and looked at me like I was crazy! LOL.....makers......🤣
@@ProjectsForAllReviews I'm glad your kids are having fun just being kids. As for the annoyed parents, you can guess what I think. Mike, keep doing the great work and parenting.
Great video Mike. As for me, I also use my fingers instead of pliers when using smaller fasteners.
Yep. I'll admit it is easier to use with pliers but I far too lazy to go back to the tool box for them. Im a make it work kinda guy. Thanks for watching Louis!!
@@ProjectsForAllReviews Any time Mike, I love your videos!
Glad to see this… I have humored getting the skil. Curious to see how it works out.
I purchased the Skill auto hammer. It works great I've even used it to knock out ATV ball joints, A Arm bushings, even used it on my trucks wheel studs
I’ll remember that. I’ve got a Polaris 250 that needs a ton of work. Thanks for watching!
@@ProjectsForAllReviews I did two short videos using it on wheel studs, check em out
Seems like if you took the hammer and shroud off the Milwaukee palm nailer and slapped it on the Skil autohammer, it'd be the perfect tool. Might even be enough to get me using nails again - been using decking screws, lag bolts, and drywall screws for so long I almost forget how to swing a hammer. Stay awesome, Mike. Keep them reviews coming!
I agree about the shroud. The Milwaukee is much better as a framing tool for that reason. Im with you on the nail thing too. Unless your framing or need the shear strength for hanging stair stringers or similar, Id take decking/wood screws any day. Last time a bought and used nails was for stringer hangers when I replaced the stair case on the front of my house about four years ago. Thanks for always watching Jeff!!
Would these nailer work on concrete as well??
I wish we had that air palm nailer comparison
I can tell you from personal experience they are a little more powerful and the more you spend on the air one the better they get. I've had botich hf and senco cheap is cheap for a reason. In the end do you wanna deag a hose around?
Well do it for sure. Will prob be over a month as we've got a pile of cool stuff sitting in the shop for review. Thanks for watching!
Which one is gonna produce the better bruised thumb? Inquiring minds want to know.
I bought mine on Amazon about 6 months ago for $60 with battery and charger. It is great for tight areas I have just about all of skil 12v line and 4 or 5 20v tools from them.
I paid $45 for the Skil kit a couple months ago on super sale. The price is always different on Amazon and if you're patient you can get a sweet deal on this one. Thanks for watching!!
That palm nailer is way too big for tight spot, I'll go for Skil auto hammer, since I already nail guns. It's only useful in a tight spot or doing joist hanger nails.
Exactly skill actually fits. Not all of us want to get a positive placement gun especially since the lack of cordless options obscure brands.
The Milwaukee is pretty big, I'll give you that. I think the thing to do is order a bunch of pneumatic palm nailers and do this vid again in a tight spot scenario. This is a popular topic so very good chance well do it soon. Thanks for watching Tom!!
In my experience bostitch senco and a cheap hf one are the ones that represent the gambit of price ranges and quality if your looking for suggestions.
@@ProjectsForAllReviewsI've used the skil auto hammer to take apart ball joints, wonderful tool.
It seems to me that they could all benefit from a better design to hold the nails initially. I'm going to need something like this when I install some smaller replacement windows into existing larger openings. I like the fact that the Skil requires less space above the nail. I don't like that the Skil would require yet another battery platform, but at least it's inexpensive!
I have a 9V Craftsman version of that Skil. It's pretty much exactly the same except its 12V.
Mike I’m a little disappointed you didn’t review the reverse function of these hammers! How do they do at getting the nails out? lol. Great video as always!
I own both. I use Skil for smaller projects and tight spaces. I use the Milwaukee if I must go through hundreds of nails daily. If speed is not a concern use the Skil, your hand will thank you after a hard work day.
I assume you do framing? As someone who has done just home projects for 20 years it is rare I even pick up my hammer unless I’m hanging a picture!
Fyi the skill has more power in the straight head configuration 20% or more. Like stated in the other video the skill is the better for me. Ive had both and the size of the m12 is crazy and I found it much less controllable. Thanks as I suggested using the 4ah it really wakes it up. For thoes wondering metal romex staples is part of what I use it for. I also use it for smaller cut nails and it does fine (nice barn spikes there). Historic houses ussaly require us to match the fasteners and you guessed it cut nails! In the end size controllable and all thoes other factors even ticos (joist hammer nails) skill will actually fit 😆 makes it the winner for me. I have many air ones too and I can't do the hose anymore such a trip hazard and it's smaller but not worth the setup. Thanks for the update video letting reassuring me of my experience as well.
Thanks for the insight! I failed again to demo the Skil with the head in different positions 🤦♂️ Pretty sure were going to do this again with some pneumatic nailers in some tight spots and Ill try and remember to show it. We'll get some different hardware too. Thanks for watching Matt!
Don't forget too you can fit anything the right diameter down the center of it and make it a air chisel or body hammer. You can even take sds max bits grind the shafts down to fit in. Ive used one to drive grounding rods in tight spaces before under a overhang with a bottle of water.
I've used my Skil for romex staples also. Beats a hammer for me
Great comparison! But, I just don’t;t know if the average homeowner needs these. Now days, unless you are doing framing it usually screws! I have been in our home for 20 years and have done all kinds of projects from flooring, kitchen remodel, building raised garden beds and the amount of time I have used a hammer and nails have been slim. Yes, brad nailers many times, and an actual hammer and small nail in a picture hanger that too. But that’s about it.
@@militarymann8456 Well you are correct about that. But for most home projects (like putting up cabinets) you are going to use screws and for trim work a brad nailer. For my raised beds I used large hex bolts and construction brackets.
One interesting thing: If you have ever seen the contractor guy on HGTV shows from Canada (Mike Holmes - Make It Right), years ago he did some project for an Oprah thing here in Southern California and when he was framing he didn’t understand why we used nails instead of screws (maybe that’s wha it’s used in Canada?). Of course the reason is California homes need to “flex” in earthquakes and screws would not allow that.
Seems like the skill has adequate power, control and a decent price. The Milwaukee is a “BEAST” lotta power, less control and a heftier price, but would probably have a longer life than the Skil. Which was more comfortable to repeatedly use MIKE?
Great showdown!⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Good summary! Based solely on comfort in the hand, Skil wins for sure. They serve the same function overall but I thought they were different enough that it made an interesting comparison. Thanks for always watching!
@@ProjectsForAllReviews FANTASTIC! Thank you MIKE!🙏💙🙏
Just looking at these, the skill got the design right. If you’re using it in tight spots, it’s gotta be small. I have had to nail by hammering a flat bar that is on a nail head to get it in since there was so little room. That Milwaukee wouldn’t fit in most areas that feature would be useful.
Like you said it’s obvious which one is for the Pro and for the DIYer…lol!
Milwaukee jumps when starting seems difficult to control for fine accuracy . slipping so much from the head and hitting wood
Not ideal but the skil has a little more juice if you have the head strain and not at a 90
This was a common comment in the last vid and I should have shown a demo in this one. Good chance we're going to do another comparison and throw in some pneumatic palm nailers. I'll try and remember for the next one. Thanks for watching Andrew!
Hercules Miter saw coming soon............!!!
Yup....I teased that one and got slammed with a bunch of cool stuff sent over from various companies. Ill make it a priority and well do it in the next few weeks. Thanks for watching!
it take time to work out the bugs. time go they improve it.
I just can’t see a use for these things. As far as tight spaces are concerned, I’m unsure how either work…
I think one last vid with these with some pneumatic palm nailers and a tight space demo would be a good idea. Ill try and slot it into next months schedule. Thanks for watching Franks!
@@ProjectsForAllReviews - sweet
You are definatley supposed to pre drill for the forged nail.
Skil for the price and size💯
Thanks for watching Dustin!
Great video!
Thank you and thanks for watching!
That Milwaukee is way faster then that skil
148 bare tool vs 119 with a battery I’d still pick the m18 but the m12 batteries do suck that’s why it has a strap if you drop that battery the clips will brake off
I don't doubt its happened but Ive dropped every M12 tool I own off a ladder more times than I could count. No broken clips on the batteries yet for me. Thanks for watching!!
@@ProjectsForAllReviews it’s happened more then once but maybe the new ones are made better
Really? Who the hell complains about holding a nail with your fingers? I drive 8D nails home in 2 hits, and I guarantee my first hit is harder than either of those tools will do.
That said, if I was using one of those it would be in close quarters where I couldn't swing a hammer. In that case it looks like the Skil will fit better in small spaces. I still use my pneumatic palm nailer in those scenarios, and I'm pretty sure it will fit in spaces where neither of those won't. If I ever decided to go battery operated I'd get the Skil for the lower profile.
Air palm nailer much much faster better and much more compact. I would never buy certain bulky non affective cordless tools that are awkward.
When i was a young man i coukd bury a nail like that with 2 swings.
If you think these make hammers obsolete then you have no idea what a hammer is.
bad marketing for both, now -1 for neither
Pretty much comparable in my opinion. The price difference is not justified.
Use them both every day in your daily construction job and you would see why the price is justified.
I thought they were surprisingly different both in form factor and operation but technically you could use either as long as they physically fit in the space your working in. Thanks for watching!
6:52… everything is a hammer…
You forgot 10:03, which I thought was even funnier.
@@MAGAMAN- hahaha, yeah. The Skil microadjuster
This is the first long form video not edited 100% by me. I usually edit a little tighter and remove that stuff to keep the vid moving but time constraints (I'm on vacation) didn't allow for move revisions, so I let it ride this time. Maybe I should leave some of this stuff in, what do you guys think?
@@ProjectsForAllReviews - I thought it was funny lol
I rarely use nails on a job. I have a hammer but it gets used to move wood into alignment. Screws go in to hold the wood or metal.
companies really know how to produce stuff to take americans money from them 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Sketchy dudes wear Breitling...If you know,,you know.
Wish I could afford to be that sketchy…..look again. Thanks for watching!
Milwaukee was way faster
Ridgid pneumatic all day.
You should have practiced first, that alone makes the review biased IMO. You could not drive one straight nail, after all, no one buys a tool like this without a specific use case and some level of expertise, if not initially, then in a prolonged used case, like an older home renovation where studs/ framing can get tight. This review seems like the worst case scenario for all the wrong reasons. You really need to do better IMO. All the best, take care.
These videos are a "first look" type of review, not an "I'm an expert with this tool" review. As he said, these tools are designed for very different uses. The Milwaukee is a professional tool that will drive nails fast every day and the Skil is a "consumer" level tool which probably would not last in a heavy use scenario. There was no bias in this video.If you think there was, you clearly don't understand the meaning of the word.
I show you the tools so you can make the best informed buying decision. Straight nails or not, I hope the vid helped. Thanks for watching