I love mine. Had it 6yrs now and has been flawless. Starts everytime in 1 to 2 pulls. I've modded the muffler and come other small things and it's cut a semi truck load of full length logs every year since I bought it.
Those tools sure did come in handy... Thanks Doug. I like the line removal and the coil gap tool. Mine is a non strato version too, excited to see where you go with the Jackal! But one minor correction to be made. The Jackal will have to settle for world's 2nd fastest 170 ;) Man can't wait to see all these running! Great stuff man
Dude, if mine is running like I think it's gonna...your saw will be lightning! I look forward to being beaten! Seriously though, I think next year will be a lot different. Other folks will be coming in hot with super fast and dialed in saws. It'll be nasty nasty!
Can u please show a video about how u modded the muffler and adjusted the carb. That Ms 170 runs better than my 4510 from Echo. Please any thing w help God bless u brother
You let the cat out of the bag with the nos Wild Thing this year, so you know everyone’s gonna be doing that at Saw Fest now😆 hope you have some more cats to bring🐈⬛
@@novicelumberjack Thanks! I have the CS400 but never used a MS170. I DON"T like Stihl stupid choke/switch, but then I have always been an Echo guy anyways!! Love the video and keep them coming!!!
Good Ole jack peeks just a good small business owned and operated by a even better family both my parents are from the area and grew up with the peeks and always been good to me when I've done business there
A few older people in the village have such small stihl chainsaws. Some are satisfied and some are not. I think it is a good saw for short jobs and quality oil in the mixture. Whoever is a bully and saves on oil for the mixture should avoid these products.
U need to learn the trick to get flywheels off. A little pressure from underneath and a light but firm whop on the end of the shaft. Works most times, no heat needed. And for complainers, i learned this from a briggs and straton service manual. Obviously, be careful and youll be fine.
Good to know that there are still two versions of MS170 in existence. It looks that they did not switch MS-170 to 2-Mix engines everywhere. Here in Europe they sell MS170 Made in China and those are definitely stratocharged. Cylinder P/N is 1130 020 1212, carburetor e.g. C1Q-S237C (1130 120 0610). Made in America version (1130) must be still non-strato and the cylinder P/N is 1130 020 1207, carburetor e.g. C1Q-S57A (1130 120 0603). It would be interesting to see if the muffler has a CAT inside... PS I had a look at the EPA and CARB databases and it looks like USA MS170 has no CAT: AfterTreatment Device = NO, Non-AfterTreatmentDevice = Engine Design Modification. For comparison Dolkita 32 cc with CAT has significantly lower certification emission values than MS170 and AfterTreatment Device = Yes. So Stihl didn't have to use a 2-Mix engine or a catalytic converter in this case to be certified in the USA, California included.
Ok so strato saw pumps fresh air in above the normal charge to evacuate the previous charge. !! There are a few diffrent ways they are accomplishing this task but everyone that I’ve ever seen has two or three holes at the intake somewhere wether it be in the cylinder or a block between the carb and cylinder or sometimes threw the carb itself. I was waiting for you to show the carb and weird plastic things you took off. Hope this explanation helps. Love the Timberwolf plastics ❤️🔥🦾🧬
This version (Made in America) is not stratocharged. It looks they still sell at least two different versions all over the world depending on the country. Here in Europe the current MS170 is made in China with a stratocharged cylinder and obviously a different carburetor. The muffler and the coil must be different too.
@@elpolaco7654 emission Control.!! I call it weakness 🤣😂🤣 I am kind of interested in getting into the 592 to see why it runs so much better then the rest. My guess is less air up top but I haven’t been in one.
Guess I've been lucky, have a bernzomatic mapp gas torch that's been attached to the same bottle for almost 2 years, just used it 2 days ago! Crap... just talked about it, now it's bound to leak😳
Never had my hands on a ms170/180 probably will sooner than later! I like to refer to the husqvarna 120/240 as slightly more refined, glorified wild things😅
He do because the 170 Is a "junk" plastic saw Just like the homeowner cheap Poulans at the end of the day, but fanboys say is a professional saw🤣, nothing against cheap saws, they are fine but the brand means nothing nowadays, you have to know about the product youre buying
This video is a wast of time. Your camera is on the wrong side of the saw, you seem to have a problem finding your tools, and not explaining what you are trying to do makes this video useless.
I have really been enjoying the "cheap" saw builds. Can't wait to see how the Jackal turns out. Great name for it too!
I love mine. Had it 6yrs now and has been flawless. Starts everytime in 1 to 2 pulls. I've modded the muffler and come other small things and it's cut a semi truck load of full length logs every year since I bought it.
Those tools sure did come in handy... Thanks Doug. I like the line removal and the coil gap tool.
Mine is a non strato version too, excited to see where you go with the Jackal! But one minor correction to be made. The Jackal will have to settle for world's 2nd fastest 170 ;)
Man can't wait to see all these running! Great stuff man
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Dude, if mine is running like I think it's gonna...your saw will be lightning! I look forward to being beaten! Seriously though, I think next year will be a lot different. Other folks will be coming in hot with super fast and dialed in saws. It'll be nasty nasty!
@@novicelumberjack exactly the bar gets set higher every year🤦🏻♂️ I’m wanting to run all Dolmar next year.
You definitely aren't wasting any time getting at that MS170 👍👍👍 it's gonna be an awesome saw I can just feel it 😎
What happened to this saw
Can u please show a video about how u modded the muffler and adjusted the carb. That Ms 170 runs better than my 4510 from Echo. Please any thing w help God bless u brother
Will you all be doing a video on resembling that sthil 170 that would be very helpful, thanks😊appreciate it 👍
Great video and good teardown. Can't wait to see the finished product.
Good morning Boedy. I wonder if the Sawfest powers that be would let me build a ms180 instead. I think its the same topend. I have two of those!
Nope. The 180 has one extra mm bare and stroke.
@@novicelumberjack gotcha! I just gave away a ms170 just before Sawfest.
First time ever seeing a stihl taken apart
Can't wait to see how the Ms170 Chihuahua works out.
You let the cat out of the bag with the nos Wild Thing this year, so you know everyone’s gonna be doing that at Saw Fest now😆 hope you have some more cats to bring🐈⬛
Tiiiny little turbo chargers? Backpack blower supercharger? Wet shots? Oh the possibilities.
@@mattfleming86
Naaa. It’s going to be magic unicorns on cocaine
@@EcSsAwS Blow wont make the saw faster, but it'll make the sawyer twice as fast.
Probably one of the most reliable saws I have ever owned, after I took care of the spark mesh thing....
Can't wait to see the finished product.
Where do you rank the Echo CS400 compared to the MS170/180?
The 400 is far better than the 170 or 180. But it has a terrible catalytic muffler. It needs opened up.
@@novicelumberjack Thanks! I have the CS400 but never used a MS170. I DON"T like Stihl stupid choke/switch, but then I have always been an Echo guy anyways!! Love the video and keep them coming!!!
Nitrometh reed saw? Great looking plastics for the custom give away saw.
Great job buddy!!
35:34 Does anyone know what brand is the red-brown gasket sealant on the clamshell bottom? Just curious. I have only used gray Motoseal. Thanks.
Dirko is what Stihl uses
@@Doc-Cole_Trickle-of-Chainsaws thanks
@@Doc-Cole_Trickle-of-Chainsaws Stihl used to use Dirko HT but changed to Pactan 6075
I want to see him put it back together😂
Dude I hate tearing down the 170. There's like 3 screws and the rest rubber holding them togather
You notice the junk crank bearings
Thanks!
I had to look away a few times, worrying you were gonna put that screwdriver through your hand. 😂
Tells us more about the brew in the corner.
Good Ole jack peeks just a good small business owned and operated by a even better family both my parents are from the area and grew up with the peeks and always been good to me when I've done business there
A few older people in the village have such small stihl chainsaws. Some are satisfied and some are not. I think it is a good saw for short jobs and quality oil in the mixture. Whoever is a bully and saves on oil for the mixture should avoid these products.
U need to learn the trick to get flywheels off. A little pressure from underneath and a light but firm whop on the end of the shaft. Works most times, no heat needed. And for complainers, i learned this from a briggs and straton service manual. Obviously, be careful and youll be fine.
Boedy, where is sawfest being held this year, because I honestly don’t know. If it’s close enough then maybe the CFO (wife) will “let” me attend!😅
Good to know that there are still two versions of MS170 in existence. It looks that they did not switch MS-170 to 2-Mix engines everywhere. Here in Europe they sell MS170 Made in China and those are definitely stratocharged. Cylinder P/N is 1130 020 1212, carburetor e.g. C1Q-S237C (1130 120 0610). Made in America version (1130) must be still non-strato and the cylinder P/N is 1130 020 1207, carburetor e.g. C1Q-S57A (1130 120 0603).
It would be interesting to see if the muffler has a CAT inside...
PS
I had a look at the EPA and CARB databases and it looks like USA MS170 has no CAT: AfterTreatment Device = NO, Non-AfterTreatmentDevice = Engine Design Modification. For comparison Dolkita 32 cc with CAT has significantly lower certification emission values than MS170 and AfterTreatment Device = Yes. So Stihl didn't have to use a 2-Mix engine or a catalytic converter in this case to be certified in the USA, California included.
This guy showed me HE can do it, but didn’t show me a thing to teach me how to take it apart myself.
Here's how you take it apart: go lefty-loosey on ever screw you see. Viola. You're welcome.
@@novicelumberjack simple but effective!😁
You should consider getting another camera angle from behind your shoulder or even a body cam. Could hardly see much of what you were actually doing.
Ok so strato saw pumps fresh air in above the normal charge to evacuate the previous charge. !! There are a few diffrent ways they are accomplishing this task but everyone that I’ve ever seen has two or three holes at the intake somewhere wether it be in the cylinder or a block between the carb and cylinder or sometimes threw the carb itself. I was waiting for you to show the carb and weird plastic things you took off. Hope this explanation helps. Love the Timberwolf plastics ❤️🔥🦾🧬
This version (Made in America) is not stratocharged. It looks they still sell at least two different versions all over the world depending on the country. Here in Europe the current MS170 is made in China with a stratocharged cylinder and obviously a different carburetor. The muffler and the coil must be different too.
@@elpolaco7654 emission Control.!! I call it weakness 🤣😂🤣 I am kind of interested in getting into the 592 to see why it runs so much better then the rest. My guess is less air up top but I haven’t been in one.
Stihl deserves to get grief over that thing.
Guess I've been lucky, have a bernzomatic mapp gas torch that's been attached to the same bottle for almost 2 years, just used it 2 days ago! Crap... just talked about it, now it's bound to leak😳
Good morning Boedy 😊
Pull the plastic spacers out of the mounts and pull them apart.
Thumbs up
power adders also are better with a bit lower compression in all but the highest of performance shit.
Dude my rooster 🐓 is still asleep 😴, what the heck 👀 !!!
👍 I’ll bet you do a fairly good Shaggy…damn near dead on.
👍s🆙BigGuy
Never had my hands on a ms170/180 probably will sooner than later! I like to refer to the husqvarna 120/240 as slightly more refined, glorified wild things😅
@@elpolaco7654 thanks for sharing! I was referring to the Mk II.
Yeah
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I wish you had the camera behind you or to the side instead in front of you
Don't be giving me any of this STIHL hate big fella 😤 😒 🙄
He do because the 170 Is a "junk" plastic saw Just like the homeowner cheap Poulans at the end of the day, but fanboys say is a professional saw🤣, nothing against cheap saws, they are fine but the brand means nothing nowadays, you have to know about the product youre buying
@@gillespriod5509 it's a cheap saw everyone knows that what are you crapping on about
No explanation of what you are doing!
This video is a wast of time. Your camera is on the wrong side of the saw, you seem to have a problem finding your tools, and not explaining what you are trying to do makes this video useless.
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Stihl--not made to work on--Give me a Husky any day!!!!!!!!!!!!
First
Funnnn
Kinda...
everything's a hammer
1st !
Diamond Family Homestead beat you by 2 minutes.
@@ToddAdams1234 damn it
Hydrazine. 👹👽 leave it stock, and put the green dragon to work. You'll win if it don't go of like a grenade.