LawnBoy With a Honda Engine--Many Issues.
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
- This saga started a while back (yes a video) with a spark plug you see in the beginning of this video.
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LOL. Walk and talk all you want. It's your video. Some folks just aren't happy unless they have something to complain about 😂
Thanks for watching.
Wax Guber - I'm laughing and learning at the same time. Thanks Bruce
Thanks for the fun as well.
Those that complain have either no idea what you're doing or even care. They like to complain. Keep up the videos Bruce I do enjoy them. Those that don't should move on 😅
Thanks 👍
Great job Bruce!
Ingenious what you did with the long studs.
Yes i got that idea from a couple of other UA-camrs.
So I’ve run into that Honda auto choke sticking shut issue a number of times on Toro mowers and I’ve finally found the cause. When the two bolts that hold that miserable gasket / spacer sandwich together get over torqued (as in with an impact driver) it squishes the gaskets together and warps the plastic air box which interferes with the choke linkage and holds it shut. If, while it is misbehaving, you back out on the carb nuts ever so slightly you will hear a distinct “click” as the choke plate snaps open and the carb functions properly. Look at the back of the air box, you will see the carved out section that is barely deep enough to clear the choke linkage on top of the carb; that is what’s hanging up the choke and making it stick shut. When the thermowax unit goes bad the choke fails OPEN, not shut. Double up on the gaskets between the air box and the carb inlet and don’t over torque the nuts, it should work fine. I’ve had repeatable test results with this theory, tightening the nuts to where they were caused the choke to stick every time, backing off on them caused the choke to snap into action every time.
Thanks a lot. I will give that a try.
@@BrucesShop you’re very welcome Bruce, and thank you for taking the time to make these great videos! I have to say though, I’m not a fan of Honda’s over-engineered auto choke system. It’s very problematic and unnecessarily complicated IMO. I like their auto-return choke that you set and simply opens slowly when the handle bail is pulled down. Very reliable and super easy to fix if it has a problem!
Thanks for posting this. I've been guilty of using the impact driver, and before that, drill drivers with a clutch, for decades. I never had any issues until I started working on Hondas. I bet that's the reason. Have a great weekend.
One thing I remember my highschool shop teacher tell me!"If you drop a spark plug onto the cement when working on your car it's probably junk after!But testing them is agood idea Bruce have the same mower need to replace wax choke pin mine must be bad!
Thanks.
The walking, talking detective, can’t beat it. Perseverance wins the day👏👏
Thanks again Al
Thank you Bruce! I really enjoy your videos.
I appreciate that!
3:00 frame is made by Toro who ownes Lawnboy brand now . I have seen a toro frame identical . But with a Briggs and 163cc engine
Thanks again.
Nice fix Bruce 🎉
Thanks 👍
Persistence pays off. Interesting that the pin alignment was off. I think you got er this time Bruce. Thanks. Stevo
Thanks Steveo J
Great job👍
Thank you! Cheers!
Nice job Bruce.
Thanks Pete. Like I said in the video , I think this mower was assembled the day after the Christmas Party.👍
That is awesome you fixed it thank you for the video
Well thank you for watching.
good info thanks for sharing
You bet
Great job on the Honda there bruce sir .that was very interesting about this one for sure
Right on
Oh sir you're doing the one thing I hate the most, a real Honda carb, Omg they are a pain in the butt.... But great job as always.
Yes I am not a fan of the design.
Speaking of Vice grip my friend buys cheap tools. I was helping him one day asked him for a Vice grip. He comes with a knock-off i said if you ever used a Vice grip you wouldn't use these things
So true.
This year I sold the same body with a Briggs engine , had self population .A great mower . Burning old fuel will dirty the plug and cylinder , so try to keep fresh fuel only no more than two months old , with out stabilizer .
Thanks
How's she goin'? It may well have been a bad carb from the factory, but that plug was definitely not right. The original wax pin seemed to be working but after you removed it, it looked like it was glued in place and if this is not normal that means someone was in there before and they may have mis-positioned it and caused this issue. You also found the dampening spring was not connected correctly and could have been affecting the choke. All-in-all Bruice, I'd say you fixed the problem but to say exactly what the problem was may be difficult eh!! LOL This was an interesting one and I'm glad you took us through it step by step! Take care!!
I am always concerned when i have a multiple issue problem and then make a video on it.
Your attention to resolving the problems, no matter how many, as if it were your machine is commendable. @@BrucesShop
Now that was a good video Bruce and should generate a lot of attention. Yep grounding out check out Kens small engine last video sweet plug tester which i may talk to Jake about buying. Dont you hate those wax choke mechanisms Honda came up with? We only have had one and same problem on getting it out yet DonyBoy 73 seems not to have an issue, maybe they were not tarring them in then? Amazing that a factory carb from Honda had an issue but guess it can happen, seems like they are having issues with their newer equipment.
Right. Honda seems to be followoing a familiar pattern.
Great video Bruce, your the Man!
Thanks 👍
Remember, engine block, gasket, metal plate, gasket, big gasket, carb, gasket, thick metal plate, gasket, airfilter cover, ah Damnit, I dropped it, ok start over..... LMAO
You got it.
Hi Bruce, nice to talk to ya!
Hello there!
According to honda pressure washers use a 6 and mowers use a 5 plug.
Are you taliking abu t the BPR5ES?
@@BrucesShop yes. Found it in one of their gcv160 manuals.
This summer. 2 different hondas one would spark out of engine wouldn't run. New plug runs. Other one original plug 10 plus years old clean failed. The plugs only $3 something at menards
The are twice that up here in Canada.
Those Thermo Wax used to be like $2 here in the states. Now they're almost $7. Makes me wonder if the failure rate went up, causing increased demand. Surely they aren't that expensive to manufacture!
Right.
Some times automating a function causes problems you didn’t have!
Lawn boy mower company is owed by Toro mower a broken spark plug 😮 lawn boy mowers are hard to find today especially brand new one's
So true Thanks
Interesting
Well this one just kept testing me.
My Brother has a Lawnboy/Honda I always assumed the choke was activated by linkage to sensor on muffler.thank's@@BrucesShop
Lawn boy made by TORO. They bought Lawn boy in 1988 from OMC corporation.
Thank you
Would much rather watch you than Steven Spielburger! Nothing crazy about this, the type of challenges we have all been through. So something was misaligned with the carburetor and the choke linkage? I dunno, pretty tough to beat an old school/simple/rugged Briggs 92502. Guess I'm just stuck in the past, oh well. I know how good it feels to finally conquer a demon like this one.
I agree.
Good info on that wax actuator. My third hand for working on Honda carbs has not grown yet, is there a supplement to take?
Thanks. Narragansett Bay
Not that I know of LOL
Toro bought Lawn-Boy in 1989...
Thanks for that.
When did lawn boy start using Honda engines?
I am not sure I have seen them for a few years.
Fixed in the end and to a customer thats all that counts. Great video but you need to work on your moon walking lol.
Working on it! LOL
Watching
Thanks
My brother in law just bought a toro; paid 1000$! 😳
Ouch
@@BrucesShop that’s exactly what I said. 😆
never had luck with ngk plugs
Wow i have had grear luck. Thanks for commenting though.
I prefer a champion plugs
They are just fine too.