@@davedavinson967 aren’t words defined by their use in the common tongue? If so, then I believe ironic has come to mean coincidence in the lingua Franca
Epicurus is one of my favourite philosophers, and I feel his view makes lots of sense. I must say, though, that most of us fear the death of a loved one much more than our own, and he kind of failed to address that...
Agreed. I always think:"If I lost a loved one, I would appreciate the time I spent with them and be thankful that I had the opportunity to be with them and make them happy", but I don't how I will act if it actually happened.
@@obviativ123 Ontologically yes, but phenomenologically no. That's the main difference between the two: whether you belive the concept of a happy life is a thing that exists or that only your life experiences exist. You can know which one you believe in by asking a simple question to yourself :" If a man who lived a terrible life but felt great bliss for a week and died thinking he had a great life, would he be correct or wrong? "
@@friendandpoet happiness is when you don't eat the nugget because you don't feel the need to consume a product of either tortured life or industrialized and processed genetically modified plants that gives you the false impression of making a greater decision both for the enviroment and you health
So glad you finally did an episode about Epicurus, he's probably my favorite thinker from that time. Dude seemed like a total chiller, but in a strangely noble way.
Epicurus - famous as he may be - is way underrated with his philosophy of hedonism. I can barely think of any other philosophy which is misrepresented as much as hedonism.
@@lynnixvarjo9150 nah anarchism and communism try to get rid of hierarchies, hierarchies are needed to provide order and order is the remedie for chaos.
@@roboticle117 why exactly is hierarchy necessary for order? That's a pretty big claim, how do you define order? How do you define Chaos? Why should Order be necessarily be desirable? That's a lot of implicit assumptions you make there that aren't justified....
When I learn about a new philosopher, there is always some piece of his philosophy that makes me think “huh, this guy is kinda describing how I view the world” But holy shit, when you hear some dude condense you’re entire personal philosophy in a few neat sentences…it’s something else. Really makes you realize that original thoughts are a non-renewable resource in the age of the internet. You are able to hear the words men who lived over 2,000 years ago, along with the opportunity to discover one who not only had a similar perspective but also the insight to study and explain it. It makes me wonder if it’s possible that Epicurus benefitted from a similar breakthrough. Reading some random record of a man who lived a thousand years before him that left him apprehensive to the realization that an ancient man, living in such a simpler time, could have predicted your perspective. The one perspective you think is entirely unique.
Dude I think it's the very first time I'm interested in a UA-camr's sponsorship! Indeed, Ground News seemed like a pretty good concept to start with. After looking it up, I installed it and so far I'm really pleased with the app/software (Could it be that it was a good idea to trust you?) Furthermore this is, as usual, a great video!
It feels as if we've grown up in a world of 'living a bad life' avoidance. I'm super familiar with all the ways my life can go terribly, and I stay far from those ills, however what pleasures to pursue are still very alien and difficult to access for me.
The irrational fears part helped me alot just now I keep thinking about the future, death etc like recently no idea why and that just helped me let go of those fears . thank you for this video♥️
@@AudioPervert1 the medium is the message, why gatekeep the lessons of epicurus? Personally It’s through these capsulated messages that I’ve been interested in reading into stoic philosophy. I know a lot of other people agree with this as well
@@AudioPervert1 not everybody specializes in philosophy. One of my close friends say they are intimidated by the community, so they don't wish to involve themselves in it. This attitude is kind of harmful in that way, I think. Accessible content like this allows for a larger amount of people to start questioning aspects of their reality. It may even lead to their own existential journey.
I make sure I stop everything I do and go out to watch the sunset. I have been doing that everyday in the last 5 years. My entire perspective about life has changed.
My own notes so I can refer back when I revisit this video in the future: Pleasure is the only worthy value; achieved through pleasant conversation and good vibes - Ataraxia, or inner tranquility Provides system of guidance consented with living pleasantly. In contrast to Finding objective truth and solving metaphysical puzzles. 3 claims made by epicurus: 1. Does not claim to seek pleasure at all times. Instead, epicureanism primarily concerned with reducing pain and reaching ataraxia. Path of happiness achieved by alleviating concerns that cause suffering (let go of irrational fears of death and future. Accept future as being uncertain.) 2. Value connection. Most important is acquisition of friends. Not so much what friends to do help us, more so about knowing your friends are there to help you if needed 3. Seek inner peace. Be happy with what you have. Don’t desire things you don’t have. Appreciate pleasant conversation with friends instead. Sober reasoning, challenging unhelpful beliefs.
Hey man, Just wanted to say that background music is so chill, love it (digging the new style) Also, great content as usual, I can see a rise in my mental health thanks to your videos, Cheers mate
The quality of your life is directly related to the quality of your relationships. Friends are the point of life and what separates us from almost all other animals.
On Friendship. "And if I come too late and do not manage, to appear to my friend as savior. Then death shall unite me with him! So that bloody tyrant can't take the glory, of having made a friend break the duty he's sworn to his friend. So he might aswell kill two victims, and believe in love and loyalty" Schiller, part of "die Bürgschaft", translated by myself.
Hi, I am a consistent watcher of your videos and my therapist/ councillor has said I need to take my own time to improve my out look on life and my general mental state. This has helped my realise I haven't let myself have emotions, and at that it has made me realise us as humans constant pursuit of happiness and the negative effects on everyone due to this. I would like to ask commenters and you what is your opinion on the constant pursuit of happiness and what are some of the effects (good and bad) that you see?
What does happines mean to you? You seem to think it is something to 'pursue' so what does it mean to you? (I don't expect (many) things but if a plan I have with others does not go as planned I can get furious, I guess because I was looking forward to it. But mum says: ' don't worry my child, it might be good that that did not happen'. But I don't 'look forward to things'. If I have a personal plan I do work at it until it is complete for me that's 'living'. I sometimes feel lazy but I still do it because I wanna achieve something, not for happines but for achieving something. And in my head everyone is capable of doing anything they think they might want. But most seem to want the end result more than enjoying the ups & downs leading to that end result. Maybe that's what your therapist was speaking about. Focus on your peace, be patient with yourself, drink tea, make up your bed and work on achieving your goals. Things are not 'hard/difficult' they just require time. Make the time & go for it💪 (&please answer the question, I don't need to know the answer but for yourself I think it might give you lightbulb moments). You got this💪
I would say the “limit” is just balance. It takes an utilitarian viewpoint and adds temperance (the stoic virtue) to round out the pursuit of happiness.
is there a book that's a collection of Epicurus's works or thoughts that I could read to give a good background into his philosophy? any suggestions would be great
I'll watch your video a second time. The thing I like the most about Epicurus is the Tetrapharmakos. You brought up "Don't worry about death" but the other 3 parts of the "Tetra"-pharmakos (four part treatment) are critically important. Don't fear God, what is good is easy to get, and what is bad is easy to endure. IIRC, the Tetrapharmakos is a brief summation of basic Epicurean beliefs created by the Romans who really liked Epicureanism. Diogenes Laertius wrote in his book of eminent philophers a 40 point list of important Epicurean beliefs. You can find it online by searching for Sovran Maxims.
Any recommendations for good books on Epicureanism? There are a number of excellent books on stoicism by William B Irvine and massimo piggliuccu (not sure if I spelled that correctly) but I’ve yet to find anything similar about Epicureanism.
Ironically I already use Ground News and I was pumped to see this as a sponsor! It’s cool to see it being advertised
Nothing ironic about it bro. Its a coincidence not irony
@@davedavinson967 aren’t words defined by their use in the common tongue? If so, then I believe ironic has come to mean coincidence in the lingua Franca
@@Iamwrongbut oh the irony
@@Iamwrongbut bre did u just try to philosophy ur mistake
In the words of Bender:
"That's not ironic; it's merely coincidental"
Epicurus is one of my favourite philosophers, and I feel his view makes lots of sense. I must say, though, that most of us fear the death of a loved one much more than our own, and he kind of failed to address that...
Agreed. I always think:"If I lost a loved one, I would appreciate the time I spent with them and be thankful that I had the opportunity to be with them and make them happy", but I don't how I will act if it actually happened.
@@AudioPervert1 stop. You’ve replied this to so many comments and for what reason? It adds nothing and comes across as incredibly rude.
@@AudioPervert1 what an oddball. Go preach about nonsense somewhere else: like on your channel which is full of drivel.
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MONKE HAPPY
fun fact: at one point in the letter to menoeceus, epicurus specifically criticizes those who say it's good to die as fast as possible
What is his argument?
@@obviativ123 basically that death is the lack of sensation and therefore cannot be "good" for anyone
@@KishinAubrey Interesting. But isn't it good because happiness is just the lack of suffering? (Like in Buddhism or Schopenhauer)
@@obviativ123 Ontologically yes, but phenomenologically no.
That's the main difference between the two: whether you belive the concept of a happy life is a thing that exists or that only your life experiences exist.
You can know which one you believe in by asking a simple question to yourself :" If a man who lived a terrible life but felt great bliss for a week and died thinking he had a great life, would he be correct or wrong? "
@@markusoreos.233 I think it is legit to have an opinion about the life of others. I do not believe in first person phenomenons
True happiness is being isolated inside the walls of your home and still not feeling the dreadful depths of Einsamkeit.
Happiness is when there are 10 chicken nuggets in the 9 piece nugget box
Happiness is when the nugget is made from plants instead of the tortured lifeless flesh of an innocent baby bird
Where are you going to find a 9 piece nugget
@@friendandpoet chicken yummy but you're not wrong
@@friendandpoet happiness is when you don't eat the nugget because you don't feel the need to consume a product of either tortured life or industrialized and processed genetically modified plants that gives you the false impression of making a greater decision both for the enviroment and you health
@@AudioPervert1 what
So glad you finally did an episode about Epicurus, he's probably my favorite thinker from that time. Dude seemed like a total chiller, but in a strangely noble way.
Great to see a new sponsor, it's exciting to see this chanel grow
I live the new vibe of these videos. The background music really helps to bring a chill vibe
Epicurus - famous as he may be - is way underrated with his philosophy of hedonism. I can barely think of any other philosophy which is misrepresented as much as hedonism.
Anarchism and Communism are basically on the same level of misinterpretation
I’ve never heard hedonism presented this way. Actually seems like a much healthier philosophy than I’ve seen otherwise
@@lynnixvarjo9150 but that doesn’t make either more valid
@@lynnixvarjo9150 nah anarchism and communism try to get rid of hierarchies, hierarchies are needed to provide order and order is the remedie for chaos.
@@roboticle117 why exactly is hierarchy necessary for order? That's a pretty big claim, how do you define order? How do you define Chaos? Why should Order be necessarily be desirable? That's a lot of implicit assumptions you make there that aren't justified....
When I learn about a new philosopher, there is always some piece of his philosophy that makes me think “huh, this guy is kinda describing how I view the world”
But holy shit, when you hear some dude condense you’re entire personal philosophy in a few neat sentences…it’s something else.
Really makes you realize that original thoughts are a non-renewable resource in the age of the internet. You are able to hear the words men who lived over 2,000 years ago, along with the opportunity to discover one who not only had a similar perspective but also the insight to study and explain it.
It makes me wonder if it’s possible that Epicurus benefitted from a similar breakthrough. Reading some random record of a man who lived a thousand years before him that left him apprehensive to the realization that an ancient man, living in such a simpler time, could have predicted your perspective. The one perspective you think is entirely unique.
This is exactly how i felt! But, towards Nietzsche.
Thank you for existing
Ikr 🙌
Dude I think it's the very first time I'm interested in a UA-camr's sponsorship! Indeed, Ground News seemed like a pretty good concept to start with. After looking it up, I installed it and so far I'm really pleased with the app/software (Could it be that it was a good idea to trust you?)
Furthermore this is, as usual, a great video!
Glad I'm not the only one
Exactly!
Im so glad i found this channel
Listening to you give me enormous amount of pleasure. You are feeding into my hedonism
Hehe same
this video is the best birthday gift I could ask for right now, thanks man
Great video as always
Your videos are such a vibe, you make me wanna study philosophy in university and i rewatch ur videos constantly. Love what ur doing man
Happiness is when another Sisyphus55 video gets uploaded
It feels as if we've grown up in a world of 'living a bad life' avoidance. I'm super familiar with all the ways my life can go terribly, and I stay far from those ills, however what pleasures to pursue are still very alien and difficult to access for me.
True happiness is weighted blanket
Love this channel
The irrational fears part helped me alot just now I keep thinking about the future, death etc like recently no idea why and that just helped me let go of those fears . thank you for this video♥️
I can't believe I've been watching you all these years and I just subscribed now
I don't know why but everytime I watched your video I seem to be a lot more relax and happy afterward, Thanks!
Why do we need happiness? Why can't I just suffer in peace and live satisfied empty?
You can if you like
No one's stopping you. Have fun down there.
If you change your mind though, there are people that will help you climb out.
Nie zesraj się
Okay Diogenes
Pretty edgy if you ask me
I think living satisfied empty is also happiness..
wait this ad read is actually cool, this might be the first time i use a product from a youtube ad, MAYBE
this is a great channel. glad i found this channel :)
Idk if it’s just me, it’s hard for me to stay sad i’m usually happy.
@MKULTRA felt that one
@MKULTRA That’s ok though, I’m sure you’ll find something worth being happy about
Zoes vs Zeldas
I’m getting ground news instantly
glad I subscribed yesterday :)
Happiness is what you get when a 12-year-old comes out with phallic words
@@AudioPervert1 the medium is the message, why gatekeep the lessons of epicurus?
Personally It’s through these capsulated messages that I’ve been interested in reading into stoic philosophy. I know a lot of other people agree with this as well
Doctor, what if the "12-year-old" is your daughter? Where did she learn those words and what has she been doing with her friends?
@@AudioPervert1 not everybody specializes in philosophy. One of my close friends say they are intimidated by the community, so they don't wish to involve themselves in it. This attitude is kind of harmful in that way, I think. Accessible content like this allows for a larger amount of people to start questioning aspects of their reality. It may even lead to their own existential journey.
Friends are indeed very, very important.
thanks sisyphus, you're the best
congrats on 250k my friend, I knew you were gonna make it
Quarter million, think about that.
thanks man for makin vids
they help
they really do
Thanks man this video helped a lot 🤘🏽
I make sure I stop everything I do and go out to watch the sunset. I have been doing that everyday in the last 5 years. My entire perspective about life has changed.
I would love to have a conversation with Sisyphus one day.
Thank you, just thank you.
🔥🤯🔥 “searching out the grounds of choice and avoidance, and banishing those beliefs that lead to the tumult of the soul” 🔥🤯🔥
I love it when u make videos on ancient Greek philosophy its so interesting
Epicurus 3 steps to happiness:
Find cheese
get cheese
eat cheese
holy shit an actually good sponsor wtf
My own notes so I can refer back when I revisit this video in the future:
Pleasure is the only worthy value; achieved through pleasant conversation and good vibes - Ataraxia, or inner tranquility
Provides system of guidance consented with living pleasantly. In contrast to Finding objective truth and solving metaphysical puzzles.
3 claims made by epicurus:
1. Does not claim to seek pleasure at all times. Instead, epicureanism primarily concerned with reducing pain and reaching ataraxia. Path of happiness achieved by alleviating concerns that cause suffering (let go of irrational fears of death and future. Accept future as being uncertain.)
2. Value connection. Most important is acquisition of friends. Not so much what friends to do help us, more so about knowing your friends are there to help you if needed
3. Seek inner peace. Be happy with what you have. Don’t desire things you don’t have. Appreciate pleasant conversation with friends instead. Sober reasoning, challenging unhelpful beliefs.
I'm literally dying of isolation
That sponsor/advertisement is actually amazing. I wish I knew about it earlier.
Hey man,
Just wanted to say that background music is so chill, love it (digging the new style)
Also, great content as usual, I can see a rise in my mental health thanks to your videos,
Cheers mate
wow first time the paid promotion ad was good
Thanks Epicus for giving us this epic advice
The quality of your life is directly related to the quality of your relationships. Friends are the point of life and what separates us from almost all other animals.
@Logata “almost all other animals”
@Logata I never said it was the main criterion of humanness.
I think this is the first time ive actually paused a video to download/buy whatver was announced on the sponsor ad.
tried the app and love it! first sponsor i’ve actually used
I have to say, I downloaded that app and it's great! I really appreciate the recommendation
I feel happiness knowing I have somewhat real friends. Many have come and gone, leaving only the one's that really cared.
The Roman Epicurean epitaph: I was not/ I was/ I am not/ I don’t care.
This one makes sense to me. Thank you.
Epicurus was the best egg
groovy, man
Good video :)
(And really cool sponsor)
On top of understanding the human condition very well, epicurus was also a proponent of atom theory
Why must happiness be our ultimate goal in years of life?
Happiness isn't as much as a goal as is reduction of suffering.
It is only half of the goal, the other half is avoidance of pain. The entire point is to have a pleasant life, basically, that's what the focus is on.
On Friendship.
"And if I come too late and do not manage,
to appear to my friend as savior.
Then death shall unite me with him!
So that bloody tyrant can't take the glory,
of having made a friend break the duty he's sworn to his friend.
So he might aswell kill two victims,
and believe in love and loyalty"
Schiller, part of "die Bürgschaft", translated by myself.
hedonism is more about maximising your pleasure in the long term than wasting it for short term pleasure.
Congrats on the sponsor!
Time to be happy!
Me - finally feeling some sense of happiness.
My anxiety - hold my beer.
Happiness is when your neighbor took all his vacation pics with the lens cover on.
@@prentezlarkenspiegel805 anxiety is when you realise you too did the same during that vacation.
Oh my God, ground news in an awesome idea. I hope it works as its intended to.
Ground News is the shittiest app Ive tried, but your ad made it look great! Keep it up dude, love your content
never clicked in a video so fast
Good vibes
Good to get that sorted out. A philosophy for all no matter tge circumstances
I just want to be happy.
Well color me surprised! I am ataraxic (or ataraxia) and didn't even know. Thanks for the info.
those blinking frames are on a way faster refresh rate than the rest of the drawing. mildly unsettling. great vid tho
Ground news Baby. Just want I expect from you.
God damn it I just finished this essay a few days ago
Hi, I am a consistent watcher of your videos and my therapist/ councillor has said I need to take my own time to improve my out look on life and my general mental state. This has helped my realise I haven't let myself have emotions, and at that it has made me realise us as humans constant pursuit of happiness and the negative effects on everyone due to this. I would like to ask commenters and you what is your opinion on the constant pursuit of happiness and what are some of the effects (good and bad) that you see?
What does happines mean to you?
You seem to think it is something to 'pursue' so what does it mean to you?
(I don't expect (many) things but if a plan I have with others does not go as planned I can get furious, I guess because I was looking forward to it. But mum says: ' don't worry my child, it might be good that that did not happen'. But I don't 'look forward to things'. If I have a personal plan I do work at it until it is complete for me that's 'living'. I sometimes feel lazy but I still do it because I wanna achieve something, not for happines but for achieving something. And in my head everyone is capable of doing anything they think they might want. But most seem to want the end result more than enjoying the ups & downs leading to that end result. Maybe that's what your therapist was speaking about. Focus on your peace, be patient with yourself, drink tea, make up your bed and work on achieving your goals. Things are not 'hard/difficult' they just require time. Make the time & go for it💪 (&please answer the question, I don't need to know the answer but for yourself I think it might give you lightbulb moments). You got this💪
@@ShanHasselbank Thanks
@@ShanHasselbank For me happiness is being content with who I am and being able to connect with love ones.
Hi philosophical dad
You should explore more eastern philosophy as well.
I second that ! I didnt relaize how much value eastern philoshophy offers until i became familiar with tatoism, confucianism and buddhism.
I am very much so sitting here worrying about the noises my car is making
♥️♥️♥️
Ah epicureanism, the version of hedonism with a slight limit on it.
I would say the “limit” is just balance. It takes an utilitarian viewpoint and adds temperance (the stoic virtue) to round out the pursuit of happiness.
my neck hurts
is there a book that's a collection of Epicurus's works or thoughts that I could read to give a good background into his philosophy? any suggestions would be great
I just wanna be happy :C
Thank you for showing me to have better life
I'll watch your video a second time.
The thing I like the most about Epicurus is the Tetrapharmakos. You brought up "Don't worry about death" but the other 3 parts of the "Tetra"-pharmakos (four part treatment) are critically important. Don't fear God, what is good is easy to get, and what is bad is easy to endure. IIRC, the Tetrapharmakos is a brief summation of basic Epicurean beliefs created by the Romans who really liked Epicureanism.
Diogenes Laertius wrote in his book of eminent philophers a 40 point list of important Epicurean beliefs. You can find it online by searching for Sovran Maxims.
Holy crap 🦭
So seeing as any notable writings of his are destroyed whats some good reading in this direction?
I be lookin at UA-cam at 8:09 AM now 8:10
What is happiness?
Hedonism includes all kinds of overendulgence
Could you please make a video on Epictetus?
i want some happiness :(
Anyone know what the song at the beginning is called, I wanna try learn it on guitar
Please make a video on Christopher Hitchens.
Reminds me of Buddhism
Any recommendations for good books on Epicureanism? There are a number of excellent books on stoicism by William B Irvine and massimo piggliuccu (not sure if I spelled that correctly) but I’ve yet to find anything similar about Epicureanism.
Anyone know the software/setup used to make this style of animation?
hey, you did it :)
(i really was hoping you had seen the comment i made a few weeks ago)