The Difference Between Scouts & Girl Guides - Explained
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- Опубліковано 12 лют 2022
- Do you know the difference between scouts & Guides? well thats a question that I was recently emailed to answer.
So here is the Difference between UK Girl Guides & Scouts UK
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I am a guide and Ranger leader who was an explorer as a teen due to lack of local ranger leaders. I went back to guiding due to my happy memories, but one of the things I have seen on our mix organisation event is my very confident girls change around boys because a lot of them think they have to behave a "certain" way around boys. I also like the face as an all-leadership team our girls see us doing all the things and it takes away some of the gender stereotypes they come across in other places - especially when our leadership team is on average 5"3 and some of our girls didn’t think we would be able to take down tents at camp!
I always thought they were similar organisations. Great video, really informative.😊
We have an annual camp where both Guides and Scouts are mixed, years ago (like 40 years ago) it was clear which one you were a member of. On Saturday the 500+ campers are divided into random teams and it's great to see one team with male/female Scouts, with Girl Guides. Very much some overlapping skills.
Speaking as a Leader for the 10-14 age group in both Movements, there are occasions where single sex units work better, for example in non Christian single faith units where the parents are happier if the girls and boys are kept apart. Also, we have girls in our Guide unit who just wouldn’t get involved if they were in a co-Ed environment. Also, the current resources produced to help Leaders in Girlguiding are excellent! Not every Scout or Guide HQ has access to the internet and we can put together Patrol or Unit activities very quickly.
I I’m a explorer scout and I went on a European jamboree to Sweden and guides and scouts where intergraded together. Most countries have this system around the world. In my opinion guides and scouts are both extremely enjoyable and life Changing experiences that have the same moral values and interests. So who knows if they get integrated in the future
Great question Josh and very good answer. As a CSL I have majority boys but love girls in the pack, they are very competitive and bring a balance to the pack that you do not get with boys only. 👍👍More girls please.
In our village, we have a great mix of girls and boys in scouting, many of the girls tried the local guides and found it too girly so moved over to us. I like the way we can offer both. I was in girlguiding as a child, all through the movement and got so much out of it, despite not being a girly girl back then, old school scouts definitely wouldn't have suited me. Nowadays I think I would've been better in scouts. Its great that both are offered and the girls can choose where they sit. They bring so much to my unit, nothing has phased any of them yet!
I am active in Scouting in Brazil (UEB). The Movimento Bandeirantes (Guides) has been coed since 2004. The União dos Escoteiros do Brasil (Scouts) has been coed since about 1986. It's all good down here. Both are also welcoming.
In the Netherlands all scouting organizations merged in 1976. We are formally co-ed since then, but groups themselves can choose whether to do boy-only, gitrl-only or co-ed. Even within the group you can have all 3 variaties. ;) I am a former scout leader from a fully co-ed group and seen girl-only and boy-only troops on regional or national camps. All are run around the same scouting method (in which I am involved at a national level), but it allows for flexibility in most aspects. that is what groups use to have their own identity. My group is more of a traditional scouting techniques group, but you also see groups that are more about arts and expression, which is fine (and even a plus!). That is something I really like, we are different but also are really alike! I think this is worldwide, you can mostly pick out a scout (or guide) in a group. They tend to be about cooperation, are pro-active, know how to lead and are not afraid to fail (and then see that as a learning experience).
I’ve been a girl guide for 4 yrsand it for me feels more comfortable in all girl community but saying this I am starting scouts in September
Girls can be a member of both organisations and have double the fun!
If you look outside WOSM there is actually a small girl scout organisation - BGS. (British Girl Scouts) sister organisation to BBS.
It's a really great interesting conversation. I wonder how the 'girl only space' will work in the future with many young people now choosing their own (gender) identities we now longer have a girl or boy society so the 'girls only' rule could be seen as not being all that inclusive. I wonder, does Girlguiding have Male leaders? Or is the leadership team girls only too?
How bout having both a female and male leaders
Just to add to the history: the crystal palace rally story isn't quite accurate. There were plenty of groups of girls who were girl scouts before that rally, starting up after reading Scouting for boys like the boys did. Baden Powell even spoke about them in early magazine articles. Unfortunately the pressure from society for girls not to be 'like boys' was incredibly strong, so it was thought better to organise them seperately so that the negative comments about girl scouts wouldn't spill over to the whole movement. So they got a new name and Baden Powell's sister (and later his wife) in charge. They also got a slightly different narrative (good activities to make for a good wife in the colonies/as a pioneer, healthy for childbirth etc) so that it became acceptable to society. Even then it was really the first world war which showed the value of Guide training (and scout training) to parents, society and the wider world which really made it acceptable for girls to partake. As to the groups merging, this is what happened in lots of places around Europe. For some reason in Anglophone countries the organisations seem to have remained seperate with scouts going coed and Guides staying single sex, which is interesting. I see the benefits of both ways. In Belgium units can choose to be single sex or mixed while still part of the same organisation. What I have also seen (on international camps) is units being coed but patrols being single sex or groups being coed overal with the youngest and oldest age groups being mixed but with seperate middle age groups (so mixed beavers, single sex cubs, single sex scouts and mixed explorers for example). Which I think could work very well and is super flexible!
i thought scouts do more of the activities that guides cant do