the secret was that Mals totem was the top. not Cobbs. she locked her totem away so that it would not be disturbed. Cobb found it and fucked with her mind. to make her go back to the real world. but it back fired because she kept the suicidal tendency. Cobb basically killed his wife.
I don't know if anyone has ever anylysed the film to verify this but Nolan said that the Edith Piaff song is played, in a very extended version, over the entire film.
@@LabradorIndependent I csn genuinely listen to Time for hours on loop. It's such an emotional piece, but it's hard to pinpoint the exact emotions it's meant to emulate
This is one of those movies that is almost spoiler-proof. It's such a complex plot that knowing how the movie ends means nothing unless you watch the whole movie through in order to understand how the movie got there.
Not really. The whole movie is Cobs journey to get back to hes kids and if u tell some1 that he is getting back to them by the end. U know whatever they do in the movie is not gonna fail so its not as spoiler proof as u may think. Explaining how they do it maybe becouse how they do it is so far out of what pretty mutch any other movie has done its hard to understand it even if its explained to u.
@@Shiftry87Your logic is flawed. Most movies end with the protagonist achieving their goals (thoughthere are obviously exceptions). You don't spoil a James Bond movie by saying "James Bond defeats the villain". Plus, there's also the fact that it's up to debate whether he actually did reunite with his kids.
The “secret” that Mal “locked away” is the truth. She accepted Limbo as her reality and locked away the idea that world was not real. That’s why her top is sitting in the vault, not spinning. To convince her to leave, he has to make her accept that, which is why he sets the top spinning in the vault. He literally changed her mind.
Yeah that's basically what happened. I wouldn't say he changed her mind though, he inadvertently planted the idea that the world that they're constantly in is a dream so they have to kill themselves to wake up.
You got confused, cause' he actually did something terrible to his wife (he make her believe the dream was reality, he put the top spinning for that, which leads her to kll herself later). He should have never done that.
Right, which made her believe that every reality was fake, which is why she killed herself. To wake up from what the inception convinced her wasn't real.
In my opinion, this is Leo's most underrated role. It's nothing outlandish or crazy but it's the subtle acting and the tiny details of the performance that make it so damn good. And Cillian Murphy...he's nothing short of phenomenal. The scene when the idea is planted and not a word is said when he opens the safe is so damn powerful. Just the raw emotions and when he breaks down holding his father's hand, I struggle to hold back tears
If rumours are to be believed, Pete Postlethwaite privately told him that he was in the terminal stages of cancer (which would end up claiming his life a few months after this film's release) during filming, which would mean that Cillian Murphy wasn't acting when Fischer broke down in that scene
I think Inception is one of the greatest films ever made, truly a masterpiece. Most people point out the ending being a dream or not doesn’t matter because Dom is happy and forgiven himself for what happened to Mal. Which is true, but it’s important to remember what he said earlier in the film. In a dream you just show up in the middle of it. The end takes us from Dom waking up, to getting off the flight, going through customs, baggage claim, seeing his father in law, going home and meeting his kids.
That doesn’t mean anything. That sequence of events can all happen in a dream. Plenty of people have had plenty of dreams where they wake up and go about a normal day, in order, doing everything necessary to get to the next point
@@SnailHatan it means something within the context of the film, you can’t just say someones interpretation of the film doesn’t mean anything because you disagree
The first letters of the main characters in INCEPTION spells "dreams"- Dom, Robert, Eames, Arthur, Mal and Saito. Add Peter, Ariadne and Yusuf, it makes "Dreams Pay", which is how they earn their living
the thing is tho that the top wasn't even Dom's totem, it was Mal's. there has been discourse over what his true totem is: his wedding ring? sure. but I like to think it's his kids' faces. I like how Eric pointed out that we never see their faces throughout the whole movie and then at the very end, we see them. that, for me, was the proof that he was no longer dreaming. I've heard people say that they're wearing the same clothes but a discerning eye will notice that they're wearing similar clothes, but not exactly the same clothes. they're also definitely bigger than they were before, with slightly different hair. anyway, loved the discussion at the end! truly one of the best Nolan movies ever.
I think it was that he didn't want to engage unless he was sure he was not dreaming. However, with the top at the very end... does it start to wobble and about to fall before it cuts to black (reality) or keeps spinning (dream)? Doesn't matter, because Cobb walked away from it... he no longer needed to be sure if it was reality, he needed the experience. I think that was the meaning at the end.
@@rybock sure that’s one interpretation. but again, the top was never his totem, it was Mal’s. what I love about the ambiguity of the ending is that we’re free to discuss our own interpretations. I also agree that the top didn’t matter, but for different reasons.
The top not being his totem originally doesn't matter. The point of nobody else touching your totem is so that they can't know the exact physics of it in order to make it behave in the dream like it would in reality. Two people could have the exact same totem and it would be fine, as long as they don't think that the other person would betray them. In this case, Cobb knows that Mal is dead, so he could use her totem freely because he's still the only person that knows the exact physics of it. I have no clue how people don't understand this. Take Arthur's loaded die. He knows exactly how that die is supposed to behave and what face it's oriented for. Nobody else does, so nobody else could trick him into thinking that he's in reality by manipulating the physics of the die within a dream. Instead, in a dream his die will just produce a random number between 1 and 6 because it would behave like a normal die. That's how he knows he's in a dream. If someone else found out the trick to his die, they could manipulate the die in the dream and trick him. It's that simple.
@@NovusIgnis ok I'll give you that. I never really thought of the totems that way before but the way you explained that makes sense. I still also choose to believe what I said about his children, though, and their significance to his being in a dream state or not. I think there's a possibility a person could have two totems, a secondary one that they didn't even realize they'd made.
@@the_nikster1 I can get behind that. I still think he has his own personal totem for sure. There's nothing indicating that a person couldn't. In fact, a paranoid person *would* have several totems if you think about it.
I am always fascinated by the "is it real" debate regarding the ending. I take something I feel is more important from that ending, namely the facts that Cobb spins the top and then walks away. Real or not actually doesn't matter, he gets to see his children again, which is the most important thing for him.
In (at least) one interview about this film, Michael Caine didn't say outright if it was meant to be real or not.......but he did point out that they hired older actors to play Cobb's children in that last scene.
@Tao_Tology Well idk about those statements, not saying he didn't say it but not my point. I just always use another statement of Caines that really puts it to bed for me. “When I got the script of Inception, I was a bit puzzled by it,” Caine said. “And I said to [Nolan], ‘I don’t understand where the dream is.’ I said, ‘When is it the dream and when is it reality?’ He said, ‘Well, when you’re in the scene, it’s reality.’ So get that - if I’m in it, it’s reality. If I’m not in it, it’s a dream.”- Sir Michael Caine in Time Magazine interview. Pretty much ends the speculation for me along with everything else, the older kids, totems, etc.
You can't definitively say he's dreaming or its reality. The cut to black was Nolan incepting the audience. He planted an idea in audiences mind that this reality MIGHT not be real by cutting to black when it looked like the top might topple over. The wedding band and details I think are theories Nolan won't answer but i think they might have been flaws that you can use as evidence that it truly is reality but that wasn't Nolan's intention. The ambiguity of the ending and Nolan actually taking the definition of Inception and executing it on the last shot on the audience is thematically one of the most brilliant cinematic endings ever. The discussion and discourse strengthens the movie. Nolan's main point: Cobb doesn't care if its real or not he chose to not look at the top and go look at his kids. Implying he chose his own reality.
The counterpoint to that argument is that there's no way Nolan would have forgotten that the top is Mal's totem, not Cobb's. However, Nolan's main point, as you put it, doesn't change regardless of that.
@@John_Locke_108I always see this but that's not necessarily right. Nolan could have just told Cane that just to settle him or make sure he got the right feeling from his scenes we don't know 🤷🏾♀️ There's no telling if that info is any more accurate than seeing the wobble at the end and assuming it's real.
Love that Eric geeks out about the practical effects. Yes, they actually built a freight train shell on a big rig frame and drove it down the middle of a city street full of real cars lol. They dumped a metric ton of water into a museum set. They build a hotel hallway on a centrifuge and had JGL run up the ceiling
Similar to The Expanse where, instead of creating special effects to look like they had folk in a cockpit with 360 gyroscoping chairs, they _actually_ build a movable set, with gyroscoping chairs.
It is such a crazy thought that Mal was stuck in limbo for so long, that when she came back to reality, she thought reality was a dream. It really makes you think how realistic that possibility would be if this stuff was a reality. Also, the song, "Time" by Hans Zimmer is subjectively one of the best pieces of music that I have heard. Amazing movie. I usually come back and watch it once a year.
It wasn't because she stuck in limbo for too long, the reason she questioned reality even after waking up is because Cobb planted that idea in Mal's head by spinning the top. Basically he performed inception on her.
"Time" is such an amazing song. I had the honor of watching Hans Zimmer live on stage a couple of months ago, and with all the great scores he wrote (Gladiator, Wonder Woman, Dune, Dark Knight, Interstellar, Lion King, etc.) this song was the Grand Finale. I think it's safe to say this is probably his masterpiece.
My favorite from Hans zimmer is Stay from interstellar. There's two of them "Stay" and "S.T.A.Y", but the one with no dots is the most angelical sound ever written to me honestly
for all the shit Nolan gets for being an allegedly cold filmmaker, that Cillian murphy scene where the inception finally happens hits too hard, im so glad Cillian finally got his deserved lead with Oppenheimer, ive been wanting it since Inception.
An absolute favorite of mine. Still just one of the most wickedly creative concepts ever put on screen, and still gets told through a story with heart. Leo's best performance ever imo
I yelled "Yes!!" out loud when Rick recognized the actor that plays Browning, Tom Berenger! A lot of reactors mention that he looks familiar, but Rick knew who it was and called out a movie he was in. I thought that was cool.
I always had the idea that the question people didn't catch was, is Cobb himself the one being incepted? The only way one could incept someone so experienced in his field of dream manipulation would be to incept him while he is attempting it on someone else (Fischer). The deeper they go into the inception of Fischer, the deeper they go into Cobb's with the first step of Cobbs being Saito laying the seed when he first meets him (" an old man filled with regret, waiting to die alone."). Dying alone --- wanting to be with his kids -- his relationship with Mal --- him feeling responsible for her death (him incepting her). With that idea in mind him getting out in the end and his inception working. First thought of the idea of him being the actual "target" after 2nd viewing, the viewings the more it made sense. Cobb's totem was his wedding ring while everyone focused on the top. Watch his wedding finger thru out the movie. He is wearing it in the dream world, at the end he isn't. Also, the kids are slightly older, and clothes are a bit diff. I think it was his team incepting him so he could get closure and be with his kids.
I LOVE this movie. Its one of my favourites and i have seen it many times. And everytime i get goosebumps when Fisher falls for the idea because it is done so simple but perfectly. I love that Eames smiles when he sees that his plan did work out. Like in The Matrix those effects are still mindblowing. The cast is awesome, the look is immaculate and the music is a masterpiece. And other then Tenet i find the story to be one that you can follow and resonate with.
The part where Fischer is sobbing over his father at the end after he saw the handheld pinwheel is that his father actually loved and cared for him and him sobbing over him is where the "Inception" sticks with him before the hospital is blown up.
Nolan made it a point to enter almost every scene in-situ. There's very few transitory scenes. The helicopter. The train. He also made it a point to make the company chasing him be fairly identity-less. The real men chasing him are no different than the projections chasing them.
I remember seeing this in the theaters and after the hallway fight sequence, there was no applause, no cheers, everyone in the theater just let out a collective exhale because we were all holding our breathes at the same time
Great job to the editor for not cutting out of any of the good scenes for the reaction cut. Surprised Eric only saw this once and didn't watch it again since
Great reaction, guys! :) You definitely have to do more Nolan movies. You two didn't mention Interstellar, so I'm not sure if you have seen it, but the whole crew should check out that one!
Love how it just throws you in & they explain everything so well , the music adds so much to the dream sequences & the on the ceiling fight has to be my fav scene in the movie with how it’s shot & tense it is getting
This movie was crazy when it came out at the time. I remember watching it 3 times in the night I downloaded it. The story was a newer concept and the visuals were insane for the time. It was the marker, imo, that movies had just leveled up.
As much as I love Christopher Nolan, when I think of his films like Inception and Interstellar, the first name that comes to mind will always be Hans Zimmer.
The way you can tell Dom is awake in end is that his totem isn’t the top, it’s his wedding ring. He only has it on when he’s dreaming because he can’t let got of Mal. And his left hand is hidden throughout the ending at the airport UNTIL he is a TSA and hands over his passport when you see he isn’t wearing it anymore, because he is truly ready to go home to his children.
Remember the spinning top is only described as being able to tell you when you're in someone else's dream. If you're in your own dream you'd be able to get the totum to behave 'normally'. So it's perfectly possible to have the top fall while you're dreaming, meaning anytime it falls in the film it doesn't really mean anything...other than to indicate Dom's losing grip
Honestly, I can’t help but think that you are two very intelligent people. The way you catch onto things and the little bits here and there… I could watch you react for hours and hours.
When i watch this movie, i had conscious dreams for days Great reaction guys, and yes, brazilian jiu jitsu with no gravity would be amazing all love from brazil
Inception is still my favorite Nolan movie. He’s truly a master of his craft but this movie is such a culmination of everything he’s learned from doing larger budget projects like The Dark Knight to just simple ideas on a smaller scale that started with movies like Memento and went to other projects like The Prestige.
Eric's glowing look of excitement in his eyes at the beginning of the movie and frequently looking over at Rick to see is reactions is me every time I talk about this movie 😂 I showed this one to a friend a couple years back and it was so much fun. To this day my favorite movie of all time.
One thing I love about this movie is that the ending doesn’t matter either way. If it’s a dream it doesn’t matter because Cobb has accepted what he has done and has been reunited with his kids. And its exactly the same when considering if it’s real. This is one of my all time favorite movies for many reasons but the ending is one of the best I’ve seen to a movie. Chris Nolan is an artist
This was the first film I saw twice in a movie theater. I never did that up until that point. It is my favorite movie of all time and it just shows Christopher Nolan’s skill set in filmmaking.
Respect for that Psychonauts shoutout, best video games of all time! Fun fact, a fanmade trailer that combined the audio of the Inception trailer with footage from Psychonauts (you can find it on youtube with the title Inceptionauts) was used by the creator of Psychonauts Tim Schafer to pitch a sequel to publishers, as he thought it was a better trailer than any they could edit.
Some things made me think he IS still dreaming, because his reality seems very dream-like in many ways. For example. An evil mage corporation being after him. It being named (Cob)ol Engineering was also an interesting choice.The whole Mombasa scene being like something out of a James Bond film, fully on par with the dream scenarios, if not less realistic with Saito showing up last second, etc. There was a lot more, but I've forgotten now. I heard Nolan told the actors different things too.
I tried lucid dreaming after first seeing this movie, and it worked....It was also the first time I had sleep paralysis, and I've had them on a semi regular basis ever since....THANKS INCEPTION!! :(
I love this movie and it's soundtrack so much! Thank you for reacting to it 😄 I was fortunate enough to go to a special tribute to the music of Hans Zimmer at the Sydney Opera House and heard 'Time' played live by the amazing Sydney Symphony Orchestra 😍 And the hosts of the concert also took us through how Hans Zimmer created his most famous pieces. With the gorgeous score 'Time' used in Inception (which is just so transcendent), Hans took the song the team use for their 'kick' by Edith Piaf and - “Just for the game of it,” Mr. Zimmer said, “all the music in the score is subdivisions and multiplications of the tempo of the Édith Piaf track. So I could slip into half-time; I could slip into a third of a time. Anything could go anywhere. At any moment I could drop into a different level of time.”
i breathe underwater in my dreams all the time and once i realize i'm doing the impossible i instantly wake up. When i was a kid having scary dreams if i closed my eyes really hard in my dream id wake up!
I think Cobb was the real target all along. Even though Fischer is the "target", everything revolves around Cobb. Ariadne is the real extractor, hence why Ariadne took so easily to controlling dream reality, why she insists on delving into Cobb's subconscious, etc.. Cobb convinced himself that he was to blame for Mal's death (even though it was suicide) and that authorities were after him, so once he was able to put Mal in his past, he was finally free to "attempt" to go home and finally reunite with his children.
Man im happy, this is one of my favorite movies. Time is also the best piece of score I've ever heard. In school I made an art project that was just a spinning top on a wooden plate.
I found it interesting that the "wakeup" music is Édith Piaf's "Non je ne regrette rien" that prominently featured in the film _La_ _Môme_ - released in the US as _La_ _Vie_ _en_ _Rose_ (2007) - which catapulted "Mal"/Marion Cotillard to international stardom and for which she deservedly won a Best Actress Oscar.
One of the things i love about this movie is the music. If you guys haven't seen it you should check out Baz Luhrmanns Romeo & Juliet. Massive hit in the 90s with all round great visuals and music.
So looking it up we get about four hours of REM sleep a night. I assume once trained for extraction you can't really turn it off. Meaning according to the five minutes equal to one hour rule set in the movie on average an extractor would feel like they were living in the dream for 48 hours each night. Meaning your life would feel three times longer than it really was and mentally they would actually spend more time in the dream than in reality. imagine a life being three times longer than normal, two thirds of it being lucid dreaming, and you're aware of every minute of it. It would be near on impossible to keep your grasp on reality.
🤷🏼♂️Has *Rick* ever explained why he started wearing those glasses?¹ I undserstand blocking the bright lights, but it can't make viewing what's on the screen easy or very clear. I first noticed he and his wife both wore red lenses during _Ghost in the Shell._ But this is perhaps the 3rd or 4th reaction (beyond GitS) I noticed he was wearing them. *EDIT:* Damn *Eric,* that's actually a very clever game you played as a kid (climbing the house as if something like 2-D). ··•●✺●•·· ¹ ─ I swear, he looks just like someone from an 80's action movie. 🤭
I suffer from sleep paralysis and Ive been a lucid dreamer for most of my life. I independently developed a tell in my dreams to indicate that they werent real before I saw this movie so that kinda blew my mind that I wasnt the only one who came up with it. For me, every time I would have a lucid dream it would take place in my bedroom and I had a fan with an extra long pull on it so I could turn the light on and off by reaching up while still laying down. If I pulled the cord and the light stayed off I knew I was dreaming and becoming aware of the dream would end the nightmare and instantly wake me up.
New theories on this movie still spring up from time to time. I saw Inception in theaters with a friend who somehow walked away thinking Mal was alive 🤔. Another one was that Dom's still dreaming since his kids' clothes don't change the whole movie. And finally: Dom can't be dreaming since the top was wobbling at the end.
Last time I watched this movie was about 8 hours into a 13 hour flight from Hong Kong to LA. With jet lag and then the International Date Line making you literally time travel, I can’t say it was the best idea for in-flight movie because I was TRIPPING when we landed 😂
I never noticed the wedding ring. What I did notice was that when Cobb first went under from the chemist, when we woke he spun the top. He got spooked and we never saw its resolve. I don't believe until the end, we saw him spin the top again which leads me to believe, that everything from then on is still a dream.
Here’s the answer: He was in the real world at the end because Michael Caine’s character was there. Some friend of Nolan’s said Nolan said Caine’s scenes were always in the real world.
Hans Zimmer is to Christopher Nolan what John Williams is to George Lucas or Steven Spielberg. I loved Oppenheimer, but rewatching these older Nolan films, I do really miss the unique ambiance that Zimmer’s score adds to his films.
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the secret was that Mals totem was the top. not Cobbs. she locked her totem away so that it would not be disturbed. Cobb found it and fucked with her mind. to make her go back to the real world. but it back fired because she kept the suicidal tendency. Cobb basically killed his wife.
The "Inception" score hits hard. Hans Zimmer could write the score to paint drying and it would be epic.
The last samurai, the dark knight trilogy, Interstellar, amazing spiderman 2 , inception and God knows what else . The man is the 🐐.
@@yashorajsingh4276 NTM Dune :) The man is a god
"Time" is one of the best soundtracks ever composed for film
I don't know if anyone has ever anylysed the film to verify this but Nolan said that the Edith Piaff song is played, in a very extended version, over the entire film.
@@LabradorIndependent I csn genuinely listen to Time for hours on loop. It's such an emotional piece, but it's hard to pinpoint the exact emotions it's meant to emulate
"You mustn't be afraid to dream a little bigger, darling" what an incredible line and what smooth delivery from Hardy
And a 1000 writers grabbed their keyboards and got to writing XD
Dont give ideas to wattpad writers😂😂😂 (I would read it too)
This is one of those movies that is almost spoiler-proof. It's such a complex plot that knowing how the movie ends means nothing unless you watch the whole movie through in order to understand how the movie got there.
And even if you know how it ends, do you really?
Not really. The whole movie is Cobs journey to get back to hes kids and if u tell some1 that he is getting back to them by the end. U know whatever they do in the movie is not gonna fail so its not as spoiler proof as u may think. Explaining how they do it maybe becouse how they do it is so far out of what pretty mutch any other movie has done its hard to understand it even if its explained to u.
@@Shiftry87Your logic is flawed. Most movies end with the protagonist achieving their goals (thoughthere are obviously exceptions). You don't spoil a James Bond movie by saying "James Bond defeats the villain".
Plus, there's also the fact that it's up to debate whether he actually did reunite with his kids.
Nothing will ever beat the interception score.
@@ethanlivemere1162It’s not really up to debate. That too was about to fall, and cutting away at the last second to screw with us doesn’t change that.
The “secret” that Mal “locked away” is the truth. She accepted Limbo as her reality and locked away the idea that world was not real. That’s why her top is sitting in the vault, not spinning. To convince her to leave, he has to make her accept that, which is why he sets the top spinning in the vault. He literally changed her mind.
NO!!! Cobb is stuck in Limbo and Mal is trying to get him to convince himself to leave, that’s why he has her totem.
Yeah that's basically what happened. I wouldn't say he changed her mind though, he inadvertently planted the idea that the world that they're constantly in is a dream so they have to kill themselves to wake up.
You got confused, cause' he actually did something terrible to his wife (he make her believe the dream was reality, he put the top spinning for that, which leads her to kll herself later).
He should have never done that.
Didnt he do exact opposite? He changed her idea about the world being not real and seeded eternal doubt in her, even when they were in real world
Right, which made her believe that every reality was fake, which is why she killed herself.
To wake up from what the inception convinced her wasn't real.
In my opinion, this is Leo's most underrated role. It's nothing outlandish or crazy but it's the subtle acting and the tiny details of the performance that make it so damn good.
And Cillian Murphy...he's nothing short of phenomenal. The scene when the idea is planted and not a word is said when he opens the safe is so damn powerful. Just the raw emotions and when he breaks down holding his father's hand, I struggle to hold back tears
If rumours are to be believed, Pete Postlethwaite privately told him that he was in the terminal stages of cancer (which would end up claiming his life a few months after this film's release) during filming, which would mean that Cillian Murphy wasn't acting when Fischer broke down in that scene
"Time"- Hans Zimmer is one of the most incredible tracks of all time, it tells you a complete story within 4 minutes. Absolutely perfect
I think Inception is one of the greatest films ever made, truly a masterpiece.
Most people point out the ending being a dream or not doesn’t matter because Dom is happy and forgiven himself for what happened to Mal. Which is true, but it’s important to remember what he said earlier in the film.
In a dream you just show up in the middle of it. The end takes us from Dom waking up, to getting off the flight, going through customs, baggage claim, seeing his father in law, going home and meeting his kids.
That is such a good point, I don't think I've ever seen anyone point that out before, and I've never thought of it before either!
That doesn’t mean anything. That sequence of events can all happen in a dream. Plenty of people have had plenty of dreams where they wake up and go about a normal day, in order, doing everything necessary to get to the next point
@@SnailHatan it means something within the context of the film, you can’t just say someones interpretation of the film doesn’t mean anything because you disagree
The first letters of the main characters in INCEPTION spells "dreams"- Dom, Robert, Eames, Arthur, Mal and Saito. Add Peter, Ariadne and Yusuf, it makes "Dreams Pay", which is how they earn their living
the thing is tho that the top wasn't even Dom's totem, it was Mal's. there has been discourse over what his true totem is: his wedding ring? sure. but I like to think it's his kids' faces. I like how Eric pointed out that we never see their faces throughout the whole movie and then at the very end, we see them. that, for me, was the proof that he was no longer dreaming. I've heard people say that they're wearing the same clothes but a discerning eye will notice that they're wearing similar clothes, but not exactly the same clothes. they're also definitely bigger than they were before, with slightly different hair. anyway, loved the discussion at the end! truly one of the best Nolan movies ever.
I think it was that he didn't want to engage unless he was sure he was not dreaming. However, with the top at the very end... does it start to wobble and about to fall before it cuts to black (reality) or keeps spinning (dream)? Doesn't matter, because Cobb walked away from it... he no longer needed to be sure if it was reality, he needed the experience. I think that was the meaning at the end.
@@rybock sure that’s one interpretation. but again, the top was never his totem, it was Mal’s. what I love about the ambiguity of the ending is that we’re free to discuss our own interpretations. I also agree that the top didn’t matter, but for different reasons.
The top not being his totem originally doesn't matter. The point of nobody else touching your totem is so that they can't know the exact physics of it in order to make it behave in the dream like it would in reality. Two people could have the exact same totem and it would be fine, as long as they don't think that the other person would betray them. In this case, Cobb knows that Mal is dead, so he could use her totem freely because he's still the only person that knows the exact physics of it. I have no clue how people don't understand this.
Take Arthur's loaded die. He knows exactly how that die is supposed to behave and what face it's oriented for. Nobody else does, so nobody else could trick him into thinking that he's in reality by manipulating the physics of the die within a dream. Instead, in a dream his die will just produce a random number between 1 and 6 because it would behave like a normal die. That's how he knows he's in a dream. If someone else found out the trick to his die, they could manipulate the die in the dream and trick him. It's that simple.
@@NovusIgnis ok I'll give you that. I never really thought of the totems that way before but the way you explained that makes sense. I still also choose to believe what I said about his children, though, and their significance to his being in a dream state or not. I think there's a possibility a person could have two totems, a secondary one that they didn't even realize they'd made.
@@the_nikster1 I can get behind that. I still think he has his own personal totem for sure. There's nothing indicating that a person couldn't. In fact, a paranoid person *would* have several totems if you think about it.
Leo’s nervous acting at the passport control is so underrated. You truly believe he is apprehensive with the gravity of that moment.
I am always fascinated by the "is it real" debate regarding the ending. I take something I feel is more important from that ending, namely the facts that Cobb spins the top and then walks away. Real or not actually doesn't matter, he gets to see his children again, which is the most important thing for him.
Exactly, that is the point of the movie
In (at least) one interview about this film, Michael Caine didn't say outright if it was meant to be real or not.......but he did point out that they hired older actors to play Cobb's children in that last scene.
@@Tao_Tology that was a cool tip
Almost as though he has performed inception on himself, I enjoy that theory
@Tao_Tology
Well idk about those statements, not saying he didn't say it but not my point. I just always use another statement of Caines that really puts it to bed for me.
“When I got the script of Inception, I was a bit puzzled by it,” Caine said. “And I said to [Nolan], ‘I don’t understand where the dream is.’ I said, ‘When is it the dream and when is it reality?’ He said, ‘Well, when you’re in the scene, it’s reality.’ So get that - if I’m in it, it’s reality. If I’m not in it, it’s a dream.”- Sir Michael Caine in Time Magazine interview.
Pretty much ends the speculation for me along with everything else, the older kids, totems, etc.
You can't definitively say he's dreaming or its reality. The cut to black was Nolan incepting the audience. He planted an idea in audiences mind that this reality MIGHT not be real by cutting to black when it looked like the top might topple over.
The wedding band and details I think are theories Nolan won't answer but i think they might have been flaws that you can use as evidence that it truly is reality but that wasn't Nolan's intention. The ambiguity of the ending and Nolan actually taking the definition of Inception and executing it on the last shot on the audience is thematically one of the most brilliant cinematic endings ever. The discussion and discourse strengthens the movie.
Nolan's main point: Cobb doesn't care if its real or not he chose to not look at the top and go look at his kids. Implying he chose his own reality.
This is the only correct interpretation
The counterpoint to that argument is that there's no way Nolan would have forgotten that the top is Mal's totem, not Cobb's. However, Nolan's main point, as you put it, doesn't change regardless of that.
Michael Cane revealed the true ending in an interview. I womt spoil it but you can find it on Google.
@@John_Locke_108I always see this but that's not necessarily right. Nolan could have just told Cane that just to settle him or make sure he got the right feeling from his scenes we don't know 🤷🏾♀️
There's no telling if that info is any more accurate than seeing the wobble at the end and assuming it's real.
@@marslara True but I sleep better at night if I believe that what Cane is saying is the truth.
Love that Eric geeks out about the practical effects. Yes, they actually built a freight train shell on a big rig frame and drove it down the middle of a city street full of real cars lol. They dumped a metric ton of water into a museum set. They build a hotel hallway on a centrifuge and had JGL run up the ceiling
Who directed this?! Christopher Nolan?
Similar to The Expanse where, instead of creating special effects to look like they had folk in a cockpit with 360 gyroscoping chairs, they _actually_ build a movable set, with gyroscoping chairs.
It is such a crazy thought that Mal was stuck in limbo for so long, that when she came back to reality, she thought reality was a dream. It really makes you think how realistic that possibility would be if this stuff was a reality.
Also, the song, "Time" by Hans Zimmer is subjectively one of the best pieces of music that I have heard. Amazing movie. I usually come back and watch it once a year.
It wasn't because she stuck in limbo for too long, the reason she questioned reality even after waking up is because Cobb planted that idea in Mal's head by spinning the top. Basically he performed inception on her.
If you guys haven’t seen The Prestige, that’s definitely one you should watch!!
"Time" is such an amazing song. I had the honor of watching Hans Zimmer live on stage a couple of months ago, and with all the great scores he wrote (Gladiator, Wonder Woman, Dune, Dark Knight, Interstellar, Lion King, etc.) this song was the Grand Finale. I think it's safe to say this is probably his masterpiece.
My favorite from Hans zimmer is Stay from interstellar. There's two of them "Stay" and "S.T.A.Y", but the one with no dots is the most angelical sound ever written to me honestly
Tough call for sure, but I think for me it's a tie between the end score's for Gladiator and Da Vinci Code.
for all the shit Nolan gets for being an allegedly cold filmmaker, that Cillian murphy scene where the inception finally happens hits too hard, im so glad Cillian finally got his deserved lead with Oppenheimer, ive been wanting it since Inception.
An absolute favorite of mine. Still just one of the most wickedly creative concepts ever put on screen, and still gets told through a story with heart. Leo's best performance ever imo
The Prestige or Memento has to be next 😤
Yes please!
Eric and Rick said in the video that they have already seen these two, maybe Calvin and Aaron haven't seen them yet.
22:25 - He plays the laywer, kobayashi, from The Usual Suspects... actor's name is Pete Postlethwaite (RIP)
I yelled "Yes!!" out loud when Rick recognized the actor that plays Browning, Tom Berenger! A lot of reactors mention that he looks familiar, but Rick knew who it was and called out a movie he was in. I thought that was cool.
I always had the idea that the question people didn't catch was, is Cobb himself the one being incepted?
The only way one could incept someone so experienced in his field of dream manipulation would be to incept him while he is attempting it on someone else (Fischer). The deeper they go into the inception of Fischer, the deeper they go into Cobb's with the first step of Cobbs being Saito laying the seed when he first meets him (" an old man filled with regret, waiting to die alone.").
Dying alone --- wanting to be with his kids -- his relationship with Mal --- him feeling responsible for her death (him incepting her).
With that idea in mind him getting out in the end and his inception working.
First thought of the idea of him being the actual "target" after 2nd viewing, the viewings the more it made sense.
Cobb's totem was his wedding ring while everyone focused on the top. Watch his wedding finger thru out the movie. He is wearing it in the dream world, at the end he isn't. Also, the kids are slightly older, and clothes are a bit diff. I think it was his team incepting him so he could get closure and be with his kids.
This is crazy , what a good take
Oh man it's been about a decade since I've seen this. Still holds up as a great SciFi film!
My all-time favourite film. It means so much to me, and it feels like I appreciate it in new ways every time I've seen it.
I LOVE this movie. Its one of my favourites and i have seen it many times. And everytime i get goosebumps when Fisher falls for the idea because it is done so simple but perfectly. I love that Eames smiles when he sees that his plan did work out. Like in The Matrix those effects are still mindblowing. The cast is awesome, the look is immaculate and the music is a masterpiece. And other then Tenet i find the story to be one that you can follow and resonate with.
How has Rick never seen this? One of the biggest movies of the 2010s and it came out right at the beginning of the decade
The part where Fischer is sobbing over his father at the end after he saw the handheld pinwheel is that his father actually loved and cared for him and him sobbing over him is where the "Inception" sticks with him before the hospital is blown up.
Nolan made it a point to enter almost every scene in-situ. There's very few transitory scenes. The helicopter. The train. He also made it a point to make the company chasing him be fairly identity-less. The real men chasing him are no different than the projections chasing them.
I remember seeing this in the theaters and after the hallway fight sequence, there was no applause, no cheers, everyone in the theater just let out a collective exhale because we were all holding our breathes at the same time
Great job to the editor for not cutting out of any of the good scenes for the reaction cut. Surprised Eric only saw this once and didn't watch it again since
Doesn't matter how many times I watch this movie, get chills every time. Masterpiece
Great reaction, guys! :)
You definitely have to do more Nolan movies. You two didn't mention Interstellar, so I'm not sure if you have seen it, but the whole crew should check out that one!
Great thing about Blind Wave is that they don’t gaslight viewers to believe they’ve never seen any movies.
Love how it just throws you in & they explain everything so well , the music adds so much to the dream sequences & the on the ceiling fight has to be my fav scene in the movie with how it’s shot & tense it is getting
This movie was crazy when it came out at the time. I remember watching it 3 times in the night I downloaded it. The story was a newer concept and the visuals were insane for the time. It was the marker, imo, that movies had just leveled up.
30:02 "Should've been in the presentation." -Eric
😂😂
The meaning I take away from the ending is that he realizes it doesn't matter if it's real, as long as it is real to him that's what matters.
As much as I love Christopher Nolan, when I think of his films like Inception and Interstellar, the first name that comes to mind will always be Hans Zimmer.
One of my all time favorite movies
The way you can tell Dom is awake in end is that his totem isn’t the top, it’s his wedding ring. He only has it on when he’s dreaming because he can’t let got of Mal. And his left hand is hidden throughout the ending at the airport UNTIL he is a TSA and hands over his passport when you see he isn’t wearing it anymore, because he is truly ready to go home to his children.
Remember the spinning top is only described as being able to tell you when you're in someone else's dream. If you're in your own dream you'd be able to get the totum to behave 'normally'. So it's perfectly possible to have the top fall while you're dreaming, meaning anytime it falls in the film it doesn't really mean anything...other than to indicate Dom's losing grip
Honestly, I can’t help but think that you are two very intelligent people. The way you catch onto things and the little bits here and there… I could watch you react for hours and hours.
Shout out the Tom Hardy's suits in this, absolutely stellar stuff
When i watch this movie, i had conscious dreams for days
Great reaction guys, and yes, brazilian jiu jitsu with no gravity would be amazing
all love from brazil
Inception is still my favorite Nolan movie. He’s truly a master of his craft but this movie is such a culmination of everything he’s learned from doing larger budget projects like The Dark Knight to just simple ideas on a smaller scale that started with movies like Memento and went to other projects like The Prestige.
Eric's glowing look of excitement in his eyes at the beginning of the movie and frequently looking over at Rick to see is reactions is me every time I talk about this movie 😂 I showed this one to a friend a couple years back and it was so much fun. To this day my favorite movie of all time.
One thing I love about this movie is that the ending doesn’t matter either way. If it’s a dream it doesn’t matter because Cobb has accepted what he has done and has been reunited with his kids. And its exactly the same when considering if it’s real. This is one of my all time favorite movies for many reasons but the ending is one of the best I’ve seen to a movie. Chris Nolan is an artist
This was the first film I saw twice in a movie theater. I never did that up until that point. It is my favorite movie of all time and it just shows Christopher Nolan’s skill set in filmmaking.
Eric didn't need to speak a single word during that last scene of Fischer with the father. His eyes told everything
Respect for that Psychonauts shoutout, best video games of all time! Fun fact, a fanmade trailer that combined the audio of the Inception trailer with footage from Psychonauts (you can find it on youtube with the title Inceptionauts) was used by the creator of Psychonauts Tim Schafer to pitch a sequel to publishers, as he thought it was a better trailer than any they could edit.
Nolan's first movie 'Following' is really good too.
24:53 Pretty sure there's a fan t-shirt out there with "so I was like, hey bitch, I bought the whole airline"
Some things made me think he IS still dreaming, because his reality seems very dream-like in many ways. For example. An evil mage corporation being after him. It being named (Cob)ol Engineering was also an interesting choice.The whole Mombasa scene being like something out of a James Bond film, fully on par with the dream scenarios, if not less realistic with Saito showing up last second, etc. There was a lot more, but I've forgotten now. I heard Nolan told the actors different things too.
Both my favorite Nolan film, and one of my all time favorite films.
When Doctor Strange came out I loved it because of how similar but different it was to Inception! Definitely felt like a major nod to Inception.
One of the best films of all time, it's all Nolan knows.
*One of the best films I have ever watched.*
Time is my ultimate favourite score piece of all time.
The Prestige is my favorite Nolan film and I would love to see you guys react to it
I tried lucid dreaming after first seeing this movie, and it worked....It was also the first time I had sleep paralysis, and I've had them on a semi regular basis ever since....THANKS INCEPTION!! :(
Oof
that was your fault, my dude. not inceptions.
I love this movie and it's soundtrack so much! Thank you for reacting to it 😄 I was fortunate enough to go to a special tribute to the music of Hans Zimmer at the Sydney Opera House and heard 'Time' played live by the amazing Sydney Symphony Orchestra 😍 And the hosts of the concert also took us through how Hans Zimmer created his most famous pieces. With the gorgeous score 'Time' used in Inception (which is just so transcendent), Hans took the song the team use for their 'kick' by Edith Piaf and - “Just for the game of it,” Mr. Zimmer said, “all the music in the score is subdivisions and multiplications of the tempo of the Édith Piaf track. So I could slip into half-time; I could slip into a third of a time. Anything could go anywhere. At any moment I could drop into a different level of time.”
I think he’s awake because the totem isn’t his, it’s Mal’s. His is the ring
i breathe underwater in my dreams all the time and once i realize i'm doing the impossible i instantly wake up. When i was a kid having scary dreams if i closed my eyes really hard in my dream id wake up!
The Crew 2 at the beginning has the crazy "whole world bending" thing. It wasn't even used for gameplay or again later.
I think Cobb was the real target all along. Even though Fischer is the "target", everything revolves around Cobb. Ariadne is the real extractor, hence why Ariadne took so easily to controlling dream reality, why she insists on delving into Cobb's subconscious, etc.. Cobb convinced himself that he was to blame for Mal's death (even though it was suicide) and that authorities were after him, so once he was able to put Mal in his past, he was finally free to "attempt" to go home and finally reunite with his children.
Man im happy, this is one of my favorite movies. Time is also the best piece of score I've ever heard. In school I made an art project that was just a spinning top on a wooden plate.
One of my favorite movies. The final scene with the music score hits me so hard emotionally every time! Great reaction :D
My favorite Nolan film. I absolutely love Inception! Plus Arthur and Eames are
Now I want you to react to Satoshi Kon's Paprica SO MUCH!!!! It's perfect to watch right after this and compare the ideas and cinematography!
It’s funny that Alex Hirsch hated this movie enough that he had the “Inceptus Nolanus Overratus” joke in the Dreamscaperers episode of Gravity Falls.
Why does he hate this movie?
Dan Harmon clearly hates it too, hence why there's multiple jabs thrown at the film when they parodied it back in Rick and Morty season 1
BWOOOOOOOOOM the movie was incredible the first time I saw it, so glad you guys are reacting to it
my reaction to seeing that this movie reaction was here:
“a surprise to be sure, but a welcome one”
Time is one of my all favorite Zimmer tracks
I found it interesting that the "wakeup" music is Édith Piaf's "Non je ne regrette rien" that prominently featured in the film _La_ _Môme_ - released in the US as _La_ _Vie_ _en_ _Rose_ (2007) - which catapulted "Mal"/Marion Cotillard to international stardom and for which she deservedly won a Best Actress Oscar.
Still my favorite Nolan movie and easily in my top 5 movies of all time, it has everything you could ask for in a sci-fi heist flick.
One of my absolute favourite movies. My favourite Nolan movie though Oppenheimer was also fantastic.
One of the things i love about this movie is the music.
If you guys haven't seen it you should check out Baz Luhrmanns Romeo & Juliet. Massive hit in the 90s with all round great visuals and music.
Hans went Ham in this score. Time is a classic.
So looking it up we get about four hours of REM sleep a night. I assume once trained for extraction you can't really turn it off. Meaning according to the five minutes equal to one hour rule set in the movie on average an extractor would feel like they were living in the dream for 48 hours each night. Meaning your life would feel three times longer than it really was and mentally they would actually spend more time in the dream than in reality. imagine a life being three times longer than normal, two thirds of it being lucid dreaming, and you're aware of every minute of it. It would be near on impossible to keep your grasp on reality.
Probably my second favourite movie of all time after Lord of the Rings. Nolan is the best!
🤷🏼♂️Has *Rick* ever explained why he started wearing those glasses?¹ I undserstand blocking the bright lights, but it can't make viewing what's on the screen easy or very clear.
I first noticed he and his wife both wore red lenses during _Ghost in the Shell._ But this is perhaps the 3rd or 4th reaction (beyond GitS) I noticed he was wearing them.
*EDIT:* Damn *Eric,* that's actually a very clever game you played as a kid (climbing the house as if something like 2-D).
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¹ ─ I swear, he looks just like someone from an 80's action movie. 🤭
I forgot how great this movie was. Thank you for reacting to it.
blows my mind how anyone could say "i've never seen Inception" in the year our lord 2023
When it came out, my best friend at the time and I saw it four times in one week.... It will always be one of my favorite movies.
I'll see your monk-in-Dragonheart, and raise you a lawyer-in-Usual-Suspects. 😂😂😂
Imagine reducing the great Pete Postlethwaite to “the monk from Dragonheart”. Dear me
I suffer from sleep paralysis and Ive been a lucid dreamer for most of my life. I independently developed a tell in my dreams to indicate that they werent real before I saw this movie so that kinda blew my mind that I wasnt the only one who came up with it. For me, every time I would have a lucid dream it would take place in my bedroom and I had a fan with an extra long pull on it so I could turn the light on and off by reaching up while still laying down. If I pulled the cord and the light stayed off I knew I was dreaming and becoming aware of the dream would end the nightmare and instantly wake me up.
Until the light bulb blows in real life and you think you’re still dreaming? :)
@@peanutbuttereggdirt1 Yes that has happened before.
I remember my screening yelling no at that ending scene
So Glad y’all reacted to my second favorite movie y’all should do INTERSTELLAR
New theories on this movie still spring up from time to time. I saw Inception in theaters with a friend who somehow walked away thinking Mal was alive 🤔. Another one was that Dom's still dreaming since his kids' clothes don't change the whole movie. And finally: Dom can't be dreaming since the top was wobbling at the end.
Last time I watched this movie was about 8 hours into a 13 hour flight from Hong Kong to LA. With jet lag and then the International Date Line making you literally time travel, I can’t say it was the best idea for in-flight movie because I was TRIPPING when we landed 😂
I have a fondness for Tom Hardy's Call of Duty Snow map.
Everyone dreams, some people just don't remember their dreams.
I never noticed the wedding ring. What I did notice was that when Cobb first went under from the chemist, when we woke he spun the top. He got spooked and we never saw its resolve. I don't believe until the end, we saw him spin the top again which leads me to believe, that everything from then on is still a dream.
Here’s the answer: He was in the real world at the end because Michael Caine’s character was there. Some friend of Nolan’s said Nolan said Caine’s scenes were always in the real world.
I think Michael Caine himself said that his character always appeared in the real world
This is my favorite Christopher Nolan film. Runner up is Oppenheimer.
Lost count how many time I've seen this movie. The music is amazing.
Remember this came out the same time and with a similar budget to The Last Airbender movie 😁
My fav score ever
Hans Zimmer is to Christopher Nolan what John Williams is to George Lucas or Steven Spielberg. I loved Oppenheimer, but rewatching these older Nolan films, I do really miss the unique ambiance that Zimmer’s score adds to his films.