HANDBAG EXPERIMENT: CHANEL 19-FULL REVIEW (What it fits, Mod Shots) + AM I STILL NOT A FAN?!

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  • @Minks4All
    @Minks4All  2 роки тому +10

    Did you guess correctly on how I’d feel about this bag after this experiment? ♥️

    • @lissetteeckert2567
      @lissetteeckert2567 2 роки тому

      No! I thought you would love it!

    • @je-suis_Tati
      @je-suis_Tati 2 роки тому

      Yes 😉 but that’s because you really haven’t worn the bag and kept it yourself 😉😜

    • @CapeCodBelle
      @CapeCodBelle 2 роки тому +1

      I thought you wouldn't like it, but I enjoyed the cool experiment!

  • @CLluvsPurple
    @CLluvsPurple 2 роки тому +5

    I thought for sure you’d end up loving it as i do. I have 2 of them in the large size, purse organizers are a must for me.

  • @bethv5798
    @bethv5798 2 роки тому +5

    I have been ff you for the longest time. And now I can really say that amongst all the other bag collectors, you are the most detailed, very knowledgeable and honest in doing your nag reviews. I don’t have channels, Hermes and other signature bags but I loved watching your vlogs. You were very clear, passionate and practical in your reviews. Thank you for sharing your thoughts. Hope to watch more videos of yours for someone who can’t afford to have those bags. 😊😊👍👍👍💐

  • @elena0928
    @elena0928 2 роки тому +5

    For 19 using organizer is a must ! I loveeee mine

    • @Minks4All
      @Minks4All  2 роки тому

      So happy to hear you love yours Babe! ♥️

  • @kathleenem9207
    @kathleenem9207 2 роки тому +6

    I think it was great that Fashionphile sent you this bag for a review because you are able to give the pros and cons of any bag. I may just wander over to their page now to see what they are offering.

  • @drlessismore
    @drlessismore 2 роки тому +25

    Your hair looks sooooo good great video. Possibly the only 👎🏼video for the 19 👏🏼. Honesty always appreciated.

    • @Minks4All
      @Minks4All  2 роки тому +1

      You are far too kind, thank you Love! ♥️😍

  • @lisatakeitorleaveit
    @lisatakeitorleaveit 2 роки тому +6

    Great Video ! I totally agree about the bag. Especially if I am spending Chanel money it’s a miss for me. The great thing is we all have different taste!

  • @lissetteeckert2567
    @lissetteeckert2567 2 роки тому +5

    I’m so sorry you still are not on board with a Chanel 19! I have this bag in black and beige and I love it! But thank you for your honest review!

    • @Minks4All
      @Minks4All  2 роки тому

      No worries! It’s not my cup of tea BUT I can appreciate what it brings to the table. 🥰♥️ So happy to hear you love yours Babe! 😍

  • @ordersangels3613
    @ordersangels3613 2 роки тому +2

    The Chanel 19 .... We love it .... and like others have said it is so much better with an organiser. Handbag Angels organiser with base and side shapers work brilliantly and help to keep the bag fully supported .... it's a game changer for this beautiful bag xx

  • @djb7995
    @djb7995 2 роки тому +2

    I love the bag. Hot pink, goes well with so much. Bought an organizer to match, it’s a permanent piece. I didn’t like the mixed metals for a long time before buying it. It works!

  • @pappyone6062
    @pappyone6062 2 роки тому +5

    Firstly can we talk about your vavavoom sleek Hollywood hair? Gorgeous. So I thought you would change your mind. I have two mediums and a large in beautiful 21A grey and the charcoal grey and I love them! I have to use an organizer with this bag to keep the structure better. It’s a must! I love them every bit as much as all my other Chanel styles including the classic flap in the jumbo size. Not a med large fan. My reissue however is my keeper if I could only keep one Chanel. I love this try out of the bag. You should make it a thing every few months and let us know what you think.

    • @je-suis_Tati
      @je-suis_Tati 2 роки тому +1

      Agree, I love mine too, I also have a large 😉

    • @Minks4All
      @Minks4All  2 роки тому

      You are far too kind Babe, thank you! ♥️ That would be amazing if I can do this regularly but I don’t think that’s going to happen. 😅 Ahhh the Reissue, I have crazy mad love for that bag! 🙌🏻🙌🏻😍 Thanks for sharing your thoughts and love for the 19. ♥️♥️♥️

  • @twiffity
    @twiffity 2 роки тому +5

    Really great review Minnie! I have a 21P caramel 19 and I love it!! I put a bag organizer in it immediately after purchasing and it looks beautiful - Personally I don’t like the look of the deflated quilts so the organizer makes it look so puffy and structured!

    • @je-suis_Tati
      @je-suis_Tati 2 роки тому +2

      Agree 💯 I love mine too with the organizer and mine is a bigger size than this

    • @Minks4All
      @Minks4All  2 роки тому

      Thanks Babe! ♥️

  • @jamelsydney2737
    @jamelsydney2737 2 роки тому +2

    100% agree with you on this one. The mixed metal chain is a distraction and weighs the bag down. If the chain was only one tone and thinner in size, I would be a fan.

  • @5Heliotrope
    @5Heliotrope 2 роки тому +4

    Interesting video! I, personally, really like the 19. It's easy yet luxe. A casual & cool little extra. And I like that. Yours has a wonderful cherry red color. But I do feel that the person that owned this, stored it flat under a pile of other bags, because normally the quilts are puffed if you store it properly. So that's a shame. I do stuff my 19 bags when I don't wear them. And I don't let them lie flat - especially not under other items.

  • @pappyone6062
    @pappyone6062 2 роки тому +4

    I have to agree that this bag you’ve been using is soooo slouchy and almost flattened. Mine doesn’t look anything like that. I use it with an organizer and I stuff it when stored. But even when it isn’t stuffed it is much less slouchy amd not flat at all. It will fall back sometimes as the bottom is soft, but it’s nice and puffy and full looking. I’ve had mine for about 1.5 years. I do agree about the leather interior, but I think it would make it much more structured which wasn’t what they wanted the design to be I think. Thanks for such a thorough discussion Minnie.

    • @Minks4All
      @Minks4All  2 роки тому

      I know. They wanted a slouchy, relaxed look, nothing like the CF. However, it goes to show what this bag could end up looking like WITHOUT an organizer. Happy to hear you loves yours Love! ♥️🥰

  • @christiner9477
    @christiner9477 2 роки тому +2

    Perfect review! It’s good to see you still recommend it even though it’s not the perfect bag for you. I don’t own it either but I love it on other people and happy they love it too! Thank you so much for the side by side views with other bags. It helped reassure me that I still love my reissue 226 more. They look similar in size. I wouldn’t mind a 19 but I feel like I’d be doubling up my collection since I would have both in black. ☺️🌈 have a great day!!!

  • @HappyCatHappyLife
    @HappyCatHappyLife 2 роки тому +4

    Love your hair….looks great!

    • @Minks4All
      @Minks4All  2 роки тому

      Thank you so much Love! ♥️

  • @nancyb1085
    @nancyb1085 2 роки тому +5

    I have a small/medium Chanel 19 in white and large Chanel 19 in caramel. I love them! The cons you listed are why I like them 😂 I will say that your red Chanel 19 looks like it was not stored or taken care of properly. I’ve had my small Chanel 19 for over a year and it still looks brand new. The quilting on mine are not wrinkly and deflated like how yours is. My bag also isn’t caved in like how yours is. I bought a felt organizer off Amazon to gently help it keep its structure. It definitely depends on lifestyle and personal style. 😊 I wear my large caramel one as my everyday bag and I mainly use my white one for formal events/date nights. Like I said, totally depends on your own personal style. I definitely enjoyed watching your video. ❤

    • @samsensation786
      @samsensation786 2 роки тому

      Every day bag? No user signs? Im a bit scared of the lambskin

  • @By_Aleeya
    @By_Aleeya 2 роки тому +2

    Minnie you look freaking gorgeous! The hair…makeup…the leo print 💕

    • @Minks4All
      @Minks4All  2 роки тому +1

      You are far too kind Love, thank you! ♥️

  • @MalibuKarina
    @MalibuKarina 2 роки тому +4

    LOOOOVE that bag. I had the black / small / calf from the 1st collection when it cost less than $5000. and am crying over it daily.

  • @birkinboy3976
    @birkinboy3976 2 роки тому +2

    I’m so glad you gave this bag a chance, I have 3 of them all in maxi size the thing with the 19 is the larger the size the shorter the chain. I adore mine it’s like Karl said let’s marry the Gabrielle and the reissue and kick in just a little classic flap for good measure, I have to have an organizer inside simply because of the way it puddles when sitting. I think this was a brilliant decision on FASHIONPHILE part it would help people have what’s needed to make an informed decision they should really implement this.

  • @Amy-hs1qe
    @Amy-hs1qe 2 роки тому +2

    Great video! I wish I could get past that mixed metal chain but I just can't. Too bad as I otherwise like it.

  • @azsakamoto4582
    @azsakamoto4582 2 роки тому +2

    I love fashionphile!!! More videos like this please!!!

  • @Mimses-b4e
    @Mimses-b4e 2 роки тому +4

    I love the chanel 19 as I feel like its young and fresh and still elegant. I've always wanted something classic from chanel but the classic flap I've always associated with elegant granny's not for me in my 20s

  • @jenniferglapan
    @jenniferglapan 2 роки тому +3

    I sold my black one for the same reason. Although I did cross over the straps from inside to make it a short shoulder bag a few times. The bag is extremely specific with not much versatility.

  • @deborahsmith9968
    @deborahsmith9968 2 роки тому +1

    LOOOOOOOOVE the 19 and have several. I do prefer the look with an organizer inside so it’s structured. Some love the slouchy look, to each their own. The 19 wears fabulously, mine all look brand new after loads of wearing.
    Definitely prefer the 19 to my CFs (it’s more youthful looking too) and reach for them FAR more often. One of the 19’s best feature - the back pocket is actually functional.
    LOVE!!!

  • @alexisbruce7071
    @alexisbruce7071 2 роки тому +2

    Great video! Thanks so much for sharing this experience with us all 😊

  • @MariaCortez24
    @MariaCortez24 Рік тому +1

    I had my doubt when it first came out in 2019, but I ended up with 2 x19 bags in 2023. I love this bag more than the classic flap.

  • @susanh1447
    @susanh1447 2 роки тому +2

    I have this bag in red and I love it. However, I agree that it looks like it’s sitting on a shelf in Goodwill! 😳 The organizer helps.

  • @all_things_home
    @all_things_home 2 роки тому +2

    You made me buy it. Got it in black with silver HW. The pros are good for me

  • @alliahmac
    @alliahmac 2 роки тому +1

    Amazing review Minnie. I feel the exact same way about the 19 bag.

  • @susanclarke431
    @susanclarke431 2 роки тому +1

    Great review. Loved the colour of the bag.

  • @normaortiz5950
    @normaortiz5950 2 роки тому +1

    Beautiful bag! you gave a great review of its pros and cons!👍 Not on my immediate list of luxury purchase😃

  • @tashahartman38
    @tashahartman38 2 роки тому

    What a great review Minnie. So glad you had the opportunity to experience this bag and see if it really was a bag you wouldn’t purchase. TFS 😍

    • @Minks4All
      @Minks4All  2 роки тому

      Thank you so much Tasha! ♥️

  • @norwoodtiffany
    @norwoodtiffany 2 роки тому

    Minnie, your hair looks so good, healthy and cute with the curls !!

  • @SeemaMazhar
    @SeemaMazhar Рік тому

    you are so well spoken, love your reviews.

  • @NoSacrificeBags
    @NoSacrificeBags 2 роки тому

    Absolutely gorgeous colour. Thank you for sharing your honest review❤

  • @katemiller7874
    @katemiller7874 2 роки тому +2

    It’s a great bag so user friendly. Yes fashionphile has some bags that have been beat to hell and not taken care of properly. This is one of them. Pretty color tho.

  • @swellchstyle3331
    @swellchstyle3331 2 роки тому

    When I went to UA-cam and seen your video I was so excited ‼️ I absolutely love this and I hope FP allow you to make this a series ‼️ Please and thank you‼️ what a great video and your review was perfect 😍👌🏾👏🏾🔥‼️✔️ Have a fabulous weekend 🌞

  • @llnut4775
    @llnut4775 2 роки тому +1

    Minnie I love the size, open pocket & back pocket. The lamb skin is beautiful but the chains are a big NO for me! Too busy for sure & I am not a chain strap kinda girl. Not a fan, glad you got to try it out.

    • @Minks4All
      @Minks4All  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you so much for watching and sharing your thoughts on this bag Lori! ♥️♥️♥️

  • @kaylheecarroll3186
    @kaylheecarroll3186 2 роки тому +6

    I love my Chanel 19 bag

  • @itz_zephyrx8974
    @itz_zephyrx8974 2 роки тому +1

    Why pointed all the flaws in great details. lol. I bought this bag 3 times, because of the the puffiness, color and leather. Lambskin is best leather for me. Now I have found the perfect bag IMO, but the chain is still bothering me. too bulky and heavy. However, I can’t deny how practical 19 bag is way more than the jumbo or Trendy cc ( both bags are just sitting pretty in my closet). Proper storage and Insert will work wonders for this bag. Great review. Love it . Thank you❤️

  • @juditszilak7490
    @juditszilak7490 2 роки тому +2

    Love your hair! It suits you! :)

  • @eveyluvvs
    @eveyluvvs 2 роки тому

    Ooh new background! I miss seeing all your bags, but this is prettyyy

  • @askjennanything
    @askjennanything 2 роки тому +1

    You are such a good reviewer!

  • @2601Wendy
    @2601Wendy 2 роки тому +1

    Great review, very detailed, well done. 👍

    • @Minks4All
      @Minks4All  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you so much Love! ♥️

  • @gigglebox9999
    @gigglebox9999 2 роки тому +2

    Did you find your chain to be tarnished? Mine is brand new, but I find that the antique gold has some silver tarnis and not sure if this is typical.

    • @Mimses-b4e
      @Mimses-b4e 2 роки тому +2

      Yes I have the same with my new chanel 19!!

    • @Summerdayz9
      @Summerdayz9 2 роки тому +2

      No worries, it’s supposed to be like that!

    • @Minks4All
      @Minks4All  2 роки тому +2

      No, the antique gold looks like that normally. ♥️

    • @gigglebox9999
      @gigglebox9999 2 роки тому +1

      Thanks everybody! Great review!

    • @gigglebox9999
      @gigglebox9999 2 роки тому +1

      Haha interestingly I wasn't a big fan of it as well at the beginning. Then it grew on me. Went to the store and tried the large and was deflated because my heart didn't sing. Tried the smaller version finally and love it/sings because of the practicality and edgy. Lol still haven't worn it public yet. 🤭

  • @lisatakeitorleaveit
    @lisatakeitorleaveit 2 роки тому

    Great video! I agree with everything you said :-) it really annoys me when straps aren’t adjustable or removable. It kills all your options. I have - LVT lambskin twist and both straps are removable and the long strap is adjustable and it just works!

  • @n00182085
    @n00182085 Рік тому

    I’m thinking of this bag in small/medium or the Saint Laurent toy or small Loulou. I want something kinda casual looking because I normally am a structured bag kinda girl but I feel like I need something less intense. I’m a bit torn because the both just seem so floppy. It’d be either in black, tan or beige. What’s your thoughts on the two? If you have a comparison video I think I’ve missed it then. 😢

  • @tolikfox007
    @tolikfox007 2 роки тому +3

    Aside from the chain, the main thing that turns me off this bag is that it DOES look OLD. Everytime i see friends carrying this bag in pictures on facebook it looks HORRIBLE.

  • @R_DLF
    @R_DLF 2 роки тому +1

    Minnie, what are your thoughts on the YSL NIKI medium bag? I have been wanting one for years but I can’t see them in person only online. If you get a chance to make a shopping vlog can you check out that bag? Thank you for the review on the Chanel 19.

    • @sonuk3114
      @sonuk3114 2 роки тому +1

      Niki is a beautiful bag in medium with big outside pocket and double shoulder chain strap very roomy you won’t regret buying

    • @R_DLF
      @R_DLF 2 роки тому

      @@sonuk3114 thank you!

  • @mundodamaquiagem
    @mundodamaquiagem 2 роки тому +2

    Where is the mod shots?

    • @Minks4All
      @Minks4All  2 роки тому

      They are towards the end

  • @sofiabird5717
    @sofiabird5717 2 роки тому +4

    Aww man I really thought you would have fallen in love with it! It’s such a comfortable bag to own and wear and I thought it would grow on you. But I knew from the first few minutes of the video that it was a no go for you!! 😂 You always have an excitement in your voice when you talk about a bag you love and so I knew right away that this bag was definitely not making your heart sing! But it was so fun seeing your little experiment and I hope. you get the chance to do it again. How about one of the “fugly bags” you mentioned in a recent video haha!! ♥️♥️♥️♥️

    • @Minks4All
      @Minks4All  2 роки тому +1

      You know me well! 🙌🏻♥️ Haha! Oh man, those fugly bags are DEFINITELY something else! 😂

  • @jaydenaverypiano5001
    @jaydenaverypiano5001 2 роки тому +1

    Fashionphile is recently not accepting some of the popular bags. I requested a pochette Metis quote to sell mine, they said they are not accepting buy back Metis at this point. And I got a very low ball offer for sell my brand new jumbo CF black caviar leather. What’s your opinion about the thoughts of fashionphile?

    • @alejandraloeragalaviz1396
      @alejandraloeragalaviz1396 Рік тому

      be careful i return a bag to them and they said the box was empty, i have all the proof they just don’t want to return my money

  • @je-suis_Tati
    @je-suis_Tati 2 роки тому +2

    Looking at this particular C19 I can see why you think this bag won’t hold its shape, but I must say, fashionphile made a mistake sending you a bag that it is obvious the previous owner did not care well for it. I own a C19 one size bigger than that which is more like medium-jumbo in CF, I have worn the bag a lot and my bag has no sagging like that red and the quilts are still like the first day I bought it. My bag is from 21k so it’s a year old. I also think this bag will not benefit from getting leather lining as the bag will has more unnecessary weight, just MHO of course.

    • @Minks4All
      @Minks4All  2 роки тому +2

      This is a 21S bag, crazy how beat up it was for its age. I know, adding a leather lining cuts into the lightness of the bag but from a price point, fabric lining on a $6,000 is a joke.

    • @je-suis_Tati
      @je-suis_Tati 2 роки тому

      @@Minks4All yes I completely understand, maybe Chanel will change that in the future😉 but let me tell you, mine is like a jumbo and size and it’s super light even with the insert 😜

  • @jamesjamm
    @jamesjamm 2 роки тому +1

    I guessed correctly and for just the right reasons. You seem to really like structure. I have to say....I agree with you whole heartedly. Do I see why someone would love them? Absolutely, but will one be for me? No. I like you think it looks so old immediately, but the biggest is the price tag for a bag with a cloth interior. Just no, no no and no. At that price....it has to be all leather...or something better than fabric? I loved all the details. :-) 💕💕

  • @Julescan805
    @Julescan805 2 роки тому +3

    Totally agree this bag looks like it was shoved in the back of the closet

  • @jiyamulani073
    @jiyamulani073 2 роки тому +1

    Ur review is bulls eye, i bought this exact red in small size on feb 2020 right before covid. I just dont carry it, and i dont wanna sell it as its karl lagerfeld last collection. Its just in my closet. The bag is heavy, messy n it looks tired. “ u r wht u carry” n i feel just like that when i carry this c19.

  • @Derekmua
    @Derekmua 2 роки тому

    Wow this was a rollercoaster of emotions lol!!!
    The pictures I was like ooooooo she’s stunning amazing, then when you go to the un packing and having it empty it’s the dreadful OHHHHH NOOOO!. make it stop 🤣😂. And seeing what you are saying it’s the dreadful “ I was right!” This is what I regretted would happen

  • @aliceclewell5909
    @aliceclewell5909 2 роки тому +1

    I’m with you Minnie on this one. Never have been a fan of the 19 and have no desire to own it.

    • @CapeCodBelle
      @CapeCodBelle 2 роки тому

      Me too! I never liked the Chanel 19.

  • @adrianag.2591
    @adrianag.2591 2 роки тому

    I see all your cons, if I had the funds I will get me one in black or camel color. Not in my budget or wish list. I am content with my handbag collection right now. Agreed that for the price the interior should be leather.

  • @ektagulati3985
    @ektagulati3985 2 роки тому

    Thanks a mill for an amazing review on Chanel 19.
    It’s a beautiful bag but not for me.xx

  • @Buttercookiesssss
    @Buttercookiesssss 2 роки тому

    Top handle bags with single strap usually has long straps that can't be adjusted... That's what i don't like about this bag too

  • @heathercasavant1729
    @heathercasavant1729 2 роки тому +1

    I'm with you - not a 19 fan. However, I can't wait for the video where you to do a 180 and realize you need a Chanel 22 in your life! I know you're a tote girl and that's hot mess, slouchy tote perfection. :)

    • @Minks4All
      @Minks4All  2 роки тому +4

      Haha! 😂 I can assure you, that’s definitely never going to happen! 😜♥️

    • @5Heliotrope
      @5Heliotrope 2 роки тому +1

      @@Minks4All Come oooon, let's peel away... hahahaha

    • @katemiller7874
      @katemiller7874 2 роки тому

      Ya it’s a great bag. Love mine

  • @EulaPeters
    @EulaPeters 4 місяці тому

    *yutulu*,I love you so much and watching your videos makes my day brighter

  • @Mona-mr1cd
    @Mona-mr1cd 2 роки тому

    Chanel makes a beautiful red bag ❤ but the 19 I can’t get into it either. Great review!!!!

  • @amirahdaher5296
    @amirahdaher5296 2 роки тому +3

    Oh my dear Minnie. I usually agree with most of what you say, not this time. I am a huge fan and own one in the medium and one in the large and love both. So Respectfully disagree with you on this one. Still love you though.

  • @harmonyrecordsinc1
    @harmonyrecordsinc1 2 роки тому

    ❤️❤️❤️

  • @ashleyelizsabeth5753
    @ashleyelizsabeth5753 2 роки тому +4

    I think this bad is so pretty except the mixed metal. Literally don’t understand why they would do that lol. I’m an all gold kind of gal. Would totally buy this bag if it was all gold

    • @deborahsmith9968
      @deborahsmith9968 2 роки тому

      It appeals to their younger buyers as is a more youthful, less buttoned-up look.

  • @yooni8697
    @yooni8697 2 роки тому

    Your hair!!!! The soft curls~
    I wish my hair looked that glossy and healthy 🐣
    The chain and CC logo makes the bad look cheap overall :/

  • @fabiolasandoval6318
    @fabiolasandoval6318 2 роки тому +1

    The bag look use like you said. It look like a second hand bag. For that price point Is a no no for me.

  • @kathleenem9207
    @kathleenem9207 2 роки тому

    The chains are a complete turn off for me. I could get past the large quilting and the slouchiness but - those chains, NO! I have six Chanel bags from the jumbo down to the mini and I always consider whether the chains are comfortable AND esthetically pleasing.

  • @psz2929
    @psz2929 2 роки тому

    Which bags have you said “never” to in the past and then became so of your favourites?

    • @Minks4All
      @Minks4All  2 роки тому

      I made an entire video on them, that’s how many 😂

    • @psz2929
      @psz2929 2 роки тому

      @@Minks4All going on the hunt for that video now thanks

  • @ALT-vz3jn
    @ALT-vz3jn 2 роки тому

    Fantastic review! Completely agree with you. I love that you picked the red color, it’s a fascinating design overall.
    I’m just not a chain bag person 😳 I wish I was, they’re so pretty to look at. I have a Gucci Marmont and YSL Loulou small in my collection, beautiful bags but I almost never reach for them because I just don’t like the bulky chains making all that clinking noise, it’s embarrassing.

    • @Minks4All
      @Minks4All  2 роки тому

      Thanks Love! ♥️ I’m the opposite with those noisy chains, I love them! 🙌🏻😂🥰

  • @melissadealey
    @melissadealey 2 роки тому +1

    The mismatched chain is definitely a turn off. 👎
    Great review!!

  • @becauseofirina6049
    @becauseofirina6049 2 роки тому +6

    Damn! I own the caramel and love her, but to each their own 🤍

  • @MagzKhalil
    @MagzKhalil 6 днів тому

    I was almost thinking of buying one until I saw your video and decided to go with *amzrepe* . Thanks!!

  • @seagreen2034
    @seagreen2034 2 роки тому +2

    Didn’t like the bag when it came out, still don’t. I don’t like big gaps between the bag & the flap or the mixed metal.

  • @marleneperez3630
    @marleneperez3630 2 роки тому +2

    I don’t like all the chains.

  • @peg3157
    @peg3157 2 роки тому +1

    Too busy.
    Too heavy !