Thanks for the history of the odapeno and taste test. It is fun seeing the progression on saved seeds from year to year. Glad you got more heat and a nice flavor at least on one this year.
This is a very interesting project you have going. I hope you get the perfect pepper from your experiments. They all look very tasty. Especially the first one that you tasted. Take care and have a great day 🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋
Thanks Shirley! At this point, I hope it tastes good and keeps at least as much heat as it had this time. I bet the caterpillars are picking up now where you are. Have a great weekend!
@@MidwestGardener Unfortunately the swallowtail butterfly is late getting here. . I raised about a dozen recently but not any more eggs. I think they are as confused about the weird weather just like we are. I have lots of fennel, parsley and carrot tops just no caterpillars 🙁🙁🙁🙁🙁
What a fun journey! The purple coloration is very nice on these. I have just started F5 on a lemon drop x red ghost, it's lost nearly all of it's heat along the way.
Thanks for sharing how your F5 project is going. That's interesting that it lost most of it's heat. You would think that it would still have a decent amount. It's really hard to tell how it's going to go from one generation to the next though.
My garden is urban, so I don't have the space for experimentation, but I enjoy watching your pepper projects! I like to plant a pepper, flowers and herbs together in colourful 7-gallon growbags. Some turn out a bit weird looking but some are really beautiful! The bees and hummingbirds love all of them, though. Peppers this year are: red bell, orange bell, Jimmy Nardello, black pearl, and lemon drop aji.
It's been cold and rainy here in the Great Lakes. Anxious to transplant tomatoes and peppers into the ground. But it seems like tomatoes can handle cooler temps than peppers can. Have you had that experience? Forecast: Days low 60s to mid 70s, nights mid 40s to 50s. Thank you!
Interesting, I had no idea you'd been going so many generations. I don't think I'd have the patience for continuing with a cross for that long. I gave up on my attempt to stabilize my F1 Beefmasters last year. None of the F3s worked well so I am trying several other open pollinated varieties instead.
Yes, it does take some patience. That is one reason I started growing indoors all year too, so I wouldn't have to wait as long to see the next generation. Last year, I was worried that this project might not be worth continuing. Without the heat, it would be too similar to an Oda. Too bad you couldn't get one of your F3s worth keeping. I have a friend in Arkansas that does a lot of plant breeding, and sometimes he grows close to 30 to 50 plants from each generation. Just so he can find the one to carry forward. I just don't have room for that.
Great taste test. The first one had a really strong red coloring. Like berry juice. They are starting to look a little strawberry-like. We always feel so behind on our projects over here. April has been a battle and May looms around the next corner. Stay safe and motivated. Thanks for the share!
Thanks! Yes, I guess they are shaped a like strawberries. I would like to get some of that Jalapeno shape back, but I don't think that is going to happen at this point. We had a freeze Tuesday morning. I think we are safe from cold weather now, so it's full steam ahead....for good or bad. Hope the weather treats you right from now on!
Thanks for sharing your breeding project with us! That sounds like a pepper I'd enjoy tasting! I wonder how well they would grow here in Colorado? Jalapenos and most other peppers do well here. We're Southeast of Denver at 6800 feet, USDA zone 5b. If you'd like to learn how they grow in a cooler growing zone from yours, I'd enjoy growing some here for you, and sharing the final product. If you're interested, We can talk about how to get some seeds or seedlings to Colorado. I'd enjoy adding some value to your project, and I'd be happy to do some breeding, with your instructions, if you'd find it helpful. Have you done much selective breeding in the project thus far, or is each generation an open pollination?
Thanks for the offer, Ted! I will definitely give that some thought. I'm guessing the would do great in Colorado. I have just done a couple of attempts at actual breeding. I hope to do more in the very near future. I've been crazy busy this year. That's why I'm 3 days behind on responding to comments. I hope to get a few things like that done now that I have a little extra time for a while.
Jim, do you already have the F6 generation of peppers started, or are the seeds from this first pepper the ones you'll propagate? I grew some wonderful-tasting peppers last year and some that had no discernable taste at all. The 3 plants (that survived) came from the same four-pack, so I'm guessing that someone did a swap at the garden center. This year I'm growing my own from seed. I hope the hail and damaging winds missed you guys this past week. Have a wonderful weekend. I'll be calling my insurance agent on Monday. ~Margie
Sure sorry to hear you got some damage, Margie! We've had to replace our roof a couple of times because of hail, so I know that is no fun at all. Hope it wasn't too bad. I have the F6 seeds ready to go, but I haven't planted them yet. That's strange that you had different results from a four pack. Hope the ones you start from seed work well for you! Have a great weekend!
The pepper that the Oda crossed with was likely a Jalapeno. I did have a Black Hungarian in the garden that year too. I don't think it was the Black Hungarian because I never noticed any darkening of the foliage, or any purple on the blooms. Like I mentioned in the video. I grew two plants....the peppers on one plate were from one plant, and the pepper on the other plate was from the other plant.
So you just save seeds from the pepper you like and just keep planting them and so on and so forth?, can you stablize a cultivar when inbreeding? I’m thinking about crossing tomato’s and stablizing a tomato breed I’m trying to learn how to breed vegetables
The bees did the initial cross on this project. The f2 generation has the most variability, so choosing from that generation is probably the most important generation. After that, you just keep the ones you like, and scrap the ones you don't. After 5 or 6 generations, they become mostly stable. I would say go for it on breeding your own tomato variety.
Thanks for the history of the odapeno and taste test. It is fun seeing the progression on saved seeds from year to year. Glad you got more heat and a nice flavor at least on one this year.
Yep, I was glad that I got some heat back. I wish I could have kept more of that Jalapeno shape though. Maybe I'll get lucky in the F6 generation.
Mighty fine looking peppers Mr. Jim. Thanks for the taste test and results. Stay safe and have a great weekend!
Thanks CB! You have a great weekend too!
Oh wow.
Keeping my fingers crossed on the next generation.
Those peppers 🌶 are pretty and the first one is quite meaty. Looking good. Have a lovely weekend. Cheers!
Thanks! Yes, I really liked how meaty it was too. I hope that quality carries through to the next generation. You have a great weekend too!
This is a very interesting project you have going. I hope you get the perfect pepper from your experiments. They all look very tasty. Especially the first one that you tasted. Take care and have a great day 🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋
Thanks Shirley! At this point, I hope it tastes good and keeps at least as much heat as it had this time. I bet the caterpillars are picking up now where you are. Have a great weekend!
@@MidwestGardener Unfortunately the swallowtail butterfly is late getting here. . I raised about a dozen recently but not any more eggs. I think they are as confused about the weird weather just like we are. I have lots of fennel, parsley and carrot tops just no caterpillars 🙁🙁🙁🙁🙁
gosh, i really love these experimental updates, Thank you for sharing 😊
Thanks a bunch! I'm glad that you enjoy them!
So cool!! A new breed of pepper!!
Yep, if I can get it stabilized. I just hope it's worth keeping when and if I do.
Looking great sir!!!! Im on standby to see your fave tomatoes this yr ❤
Thanks! I'm really looking forward to getting that first tomato.
This is fascinating - watching you develop a new pepper by experimentation in real time! Love these videos, and happy you got something you will keep.
Really glad you enjoy seeing the progress, Zachary! It's actually pretty fascinating to me too.
What a fun journey! The purple coloration is very nice on these. I have just started F5 on a lemon drop x red ghost, it's lost nearly all of it's heat along the way.
Thanks for sharing how your F5 project is going. That's interesting that it lost most of it's heat. You would think that it would still have a decent amount. It's really hard to tell how it's going to go from one generation to the next though.
That's so cool. And they look yummy!
They aren't too bad :)
My garden is urban, so I don't have the space for experimentation, but I enjoy watching your pepper projects! I like to plant a pepper, flowers and herbs together in colourful 7-gallon growbags. Some turn out a bit weird looking but some are really beautiful! The bees and hummingbirds love all of them, though. Peppers this year are: red bell, orange bell, Jimmy Nardello, black pearl, and lemon drop aji.
Those mixed grow bags sounds like a pretty neat experiment to me :) Thanks for sharing some of the things you grow! You gotta love the hummingbirds.
It's been cold and rainy here in the Great Lakes. Anxious to transplant tomatoes and peppers into the ground. But it seems like tomatoes can handle cooler temps than peppers can. Have you had that experience? Forecast: Days low 60s to mid 70s, nights mid 40s to 50s. Thank you!
They are both a little slow to start until the temps and soil warm up. Peppers are a lot slower to get going though. They like it really warm.
@@MidwestGardener Thank you, Midwest Gardener! 🌷
Interesting, I had no idea you'd been going so many generations. I don't think I'd have the patience for continuing with a cross for that long. I gave up on my attempt to stabilize my F1 Beefmasters last year. None of the F3s worked well so I am trying several other open pollinated varieties instead.
Yes, it does take some patience. That is one reason I started growing indoors all year too, so I wouldn't have to wait as long to see the next generation. Last year, I was worried that this project might not be worth continuing. Without the heat, it would be too similar to an Oda. Too bad you couldn't get one of your F3s worth keeping. I have a friend in Arkansas that does a lot of plant breeding, and sometimes he grows close to 30 to 50 plants from each generation. Just so he can find the one to carry forward. I just don't have room for that.
Great taste test. The first one had a really strong red coloring. Like berry juice. They are starting to look a little strawberry-like. We always feel so behind on our projects over here. April has been a battle and May looms around the next corner. Stay safe and motivated. Thanks for the share!
Thanks! Yes, I guess they are shaped a like strawberries. I would like to get some of that Jalapeno shape back, but I don't think that is going to happen at this point. We had a freeze Tuesday morning. I think we are safe from cold weather now, so it's full steam ahead....for good or bad. Hope the weather treats you right from now on!
I love your voice, sir
Thank you!
Thanks for sharing your breeding project with us! That sounds like a pepper I'd enjoy tasting!
I wonder how well they would grow here in Colorado? Jalapenos and most other peppers do well here. We're Southeast of Denver at 6800 feet, USDA zone 5b. If you'd like to learn how they grow in a cooler growing zone from yours, I'd enjoy growing some here for you, and sharing the final product. If you're interested, We can talk about how to get some seeds or seedlings to Colorado.
I'd enjoy adding some value to your project, and I'd be happy to do some breeding, with your instructions, if you'd find it helpful. Have you done much selective breeding in the project thus far, or is each generation an open pollination?
Thanks for the offer, Ted! I will definitely give that some thought. I'm guessing the would do great in Colorado. I have just done a couple of attempts at actual breeding. I hope to do more in the very near future. I've been crazy busy this year. That's why I'm 3 days behind on responding to comments. I hope to get a few things like that done now that I have a little extra time for a while.
Pretty looking pepper. Would this be ok on a salad or too hot? I'm ok with a medium type heat 🔥 ☺ 👍 Great video
Thanks! For me, it would work on a salad. It would give you a nice mildly spicy surprise.
@@MidwestGardener ☺ 👍
Jim, do you already have the F6 generation of peppers started, or are the seeds from this first pepper the ones you'll propagate? I grew some wonderful-tasting peppers last year and some that had no discernable taste at all. The 3 plants (that survived) came from the same four-pack, so I'm guessing that someone did a swap at the garden center. This year I'm growing my own from seed. I hope the hail and damaging winds missed you guys this past week. Have a wonderful weekend. I'll be calling my insurance agent on Monday. ~Margie
Sure sorry to hear you got some damage, Margie! We've had to replace our roof a couple of times because of hail, so I know that is no fun at all. Hope it wasn't too bad. I have the F6 seeds ready to go, but I haven't planted them yet. That's strange that you had different results from a four pack. Hope the ones you start from seed work well for you! Have a great weekend!
Do you have a video on the f4 generation of the black pearl peppers?
This video shows both versions of the f4 black pearl hybrids. ua-cam.com/video/4yPffFIedWI/v-deo.html
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Thanks!
What peppers varieties where grown next to these? Whats the difference in the origin of these 3 peppers on the plates?
The pepper that the Oda crossed with was likely a Jalapeno. I did have a Black Hungarian in the garden that year too. I don't think it was the Black Hungarian because I never noticed any darkening of the foliage, or any purple on the blooms. Like I mentioned in the video. I grew two plants....the peppers on one plate were from one plant, and the pepper on the other plate was from the other plant.
So you just save seeds from the pepper you like and just keep planting them and so on and so forth?, can you stablize a cultivar when inbreeding? I’m thinking about crossing tomato’s and stablizing a tomato breed I’m trying to learn how to breed vegetables
The bees did the initial cross on this project. The f2 generation has the most variability, so choosing from that generation is probably the most important generation. After that, you just keep the ones you like, and scrap the ones you don't. After 5 or 6 generations, they become mostly stable. I would say go for it on breeding your own tomato variety.
@@MidwestGardener understood, I enjoy watching your pepper breeding project videos keep it up 👍
@@adaml262 Thanks Adam!
Are u trying to breed new kind of pepper variants?
I'm still making attempts. This one the bees did for me.