Jaz knows his geopolitics! Smart man. There's nothing wrong with musicians speaking about current events, that's not "politics", that's reality and facts.
And now the Joke refuse to play songs from the 86 and 88 albums. Why? But then again, you won't find a bigger contradiction than the complex character that is Jaz Coleman.
@Robert Roberts They never played songs from ‘88 because it isn’t even considered to be a proper KJ album. It’s a Jaz Coleman solo album that was marketed as KJ, but Paul Raven and Paul Ferguson wanted to have nothing to do with it. And as for the ‘86 album, they only played songs of it in ‘86 and they never looked back ever since. I think Paul Raven disliked the album for being too sentimental and neither does Youth like it. Also, even if Jaz wanted to, he couldn’t sing anymore like he did there. The vocal range just isn’t there anymore.
35 years later & almost exactly a month into another butchering frenzy in occupied Palestine and the supposed safe zone of the Israeli state. 2 years later, the first Gulf War. Then the genocide in Rwanda where zero foreign intervention occurred! Also the disintegration of the now former Yugoslavia, again at the expense of civilian lives and even the massacre of teen males from the Shrebenitza (misspelt) city & region! I've always loved this band, no matter where I was listening to their music, it was good to hear the messages of #antiwar, #antinuclear, #antigovernment, #antipolitics & especially the corruption of society by the rich, the weapons industry and by those lackies, whether servants to masters or politicians, lapping at the feet of their monied masters.
Music is not fashion :) I like the awareness of Jaz, especially about,the future of West Germany...(October 1988 Berlin wall's fall out) and his visions of the next Gulf wars... Que vive longtemps les "Jokes" !!!
"had to streamline the rhythm section." In other words Paul Raven and Paul Ferguson didn't want anything to do with Outside the Gate as they knew it was the vanity project of Jaz and Gerodie's and knew it would be crap. And it was! Killing Joke's worst album. Saying that Paul Raven did contribute a little bass work before he walked out on the album, but is uncredited. Geordie did most of the bass work.
Coleman's one of the underrated intellectuals in Rock, always has something interesting to say. Of course the interview had to be ruined by the obnoxious dork of an interviewer and it's nice Coleman interrupted him and put him in his place at the end.
Jaz can't stop talking for more than a millisecond, Geordie can't get a word in edgewise. So Paul Raven still played on the 1988 album, and they brought back the original rhythm section and sound some years later. Anyone can determine it was Jaz Coleman's daft idea to get rid of Paul Ferguson and Paul Raven; in 1992 ALL the Killing Joke members except Jaz played on Murder Inc. LP with Chris Connelly doing vocals. The New Romantic crap failed and they KJ went right back to hardcore in 1990.
"Basically, we WERE a heavy and innovative punk band. Then our management/the label saw how well the new romantic movement was selling, so we ditched half the band and went the sappy, new wave route."
Doctor Feelfunny What a simplistic and rubbish perspective on the band’s change during this time. And Brighter Than A Thousand Suns really shouldnt be judged by the awful released mixes but the original intended mixes that thankfully got restored
@Doctor Feelfunny: I don’t think that’s a fair assessment at all. Thankfully KJ did move away from the punk elements that were present on the first few albums and continued to experiment finding their own voice. If anything the band became progressively heavier and heavier.
Ha ha ha,,,history proved,thatn even Jaz can be wrong...062...listen to the Album and you`ll see why we changed the musicians...well it turned out to be the worst KJ Album ever! And despite that...they were talking about fashion in between...even 1988 Jaz`Haircut was redicilous! IT WAS REDICILOUS!
20 seconds in is very poignant tonight
RIP Geordie. 🥀
Such a huge loss, my fave guitarist of all time hands down
Jaz: prophecy. Geordie: 1,000 yard stare. What a pair.
Rip Geordie
most underrated band of all time with the general public although many other great bands know just how influential they really are
How do you’s found out about them. And they were pretty amazing live. I believe they could come out today with that music and do pretty well
My dad played drums on " Outside the Gate"
yes i play guitar in a band called Deadcuts which features membeers from Senseless things and Gorrilaz, do you play too?x
A vastly underrated album; mainly down to the stigma of the classic Killing Joke sound. I love it!
That`s awesome.
I always liked OTG, sod what everyone else says!
life can be cruel that way ...
He was spot on about what happened in the middle east
Berlin wall the year after
This is great! I saw Killing Joke three days ago
Sweet, I'm seeing them in 2 weeks
🤔
The late 80s were a picnic compared to the 21st century
And about 4 years later there was the first Golf War...
That's Par for the course mate. Four!
Jaz prediction came true about the Middle East.
yes it did
May Lord save the middle east from the evil
@@ilyas_elouchihi may the middle east be saved from the tyrannical wrath of the USA
*I GOT TO STRUGGLE!!!*
Jaz knows his geopolitics! Smart man. There's nothing wrong with musicians speaking about current events, that's not "politics", that's reality and facts.
...except he expected us not to make it through the eighties, and yet here we are. Perhaps Ron pulled us through after all...
He understands politics like Rihanna understands music.
@@Qwerty-ks8dn
Are you on all week? 🤡
Being Pakastani gives him a perspective uncommon to most bands popular in the west. (IMO)
@@TheChadTI He's English, with an Indian grandmother, I think. So his perspective is just old English radical.
Articulate musicians and great players too !
Silliest Hairdo Jaz ever sported...
Yeah I love OTG. Grandiose and Proggy perhaps, but it still kicks ass Lyrically and Musically... and Magickally.
How weird this actually relevant now.
Good on ya Jaz, Geordie
he should write a book tbh
And now the Joke refuse to play songs from the 86 and 88 albums. Why? But then again, you won't find a bigger contradiction than the complex character that is Jaz Coleman.
Times change as do people. Coleman is a mutable Pisces, so very much changing.
@Robert Roberts They never played songs from ‘88 because it isn’t even considered to be a proper KJ album. It’s a Jaz Coleman solo album that was marketed as KJ, but Paul Raven and Paul Ferguson wanted to have nothing to do with it. And as for the ‘86 album, they only played songs of it in ‘86 and they never looked back ever since. I think Paul Raven disliked the album for being too sentimental and neither does Youth like it. Also, even if Jaz wanted to, he couldn’t sing anymore like he did there. The vocal range just isn’t there anymore.
Probably bc they are on the Virgin label and sucks
Great interview, thanks mate.
Requiesce in pace Geordie
2018 nothing changes in regards to the middle east in the super powers
35 years later & almost exactly a month into another butchering frenzy in occupied Palestine and the supposed safe zone of the Israeli state.
2 years later, the first Gulf War. Then the genocide in Rwanda where zero foreign intervention occurred! Also the disintegration of the now former Yugoslavia, again at the expense of civilian lives and even the massacre of teen males from the Shrebenitza (misspelt) city & region!
I've always loved this band, no matter where I was listening to their music, it was good to hear the messages of #antiwar, #antinuclear, #antigovernment, #antipolitics & especially the corruption of society by the rich, the weapons industry and by those lackies, whether servants to masters or politicians, lapping at the feet of their monied masters.
I've been so close to voting this coming election. This just reinvigorated my 19 year boycott. I've never voted either guys.
Music is not fashion :) I like the awareness of Jaz, especially about,the future of West Germany...(October 1988 Berlin wall's fall out) and his visions of the next Gulf wars... Que vive longtemps les "Jokes" !!!
Did Jaz go to John Travolta's hairstylist?
A bit of Aquarius in there.
Well just over 2 years later the Gulf War started so Jazz on the money with that prediction.
Geordie's face for the first minute says it all.... Jaz has lost his fucking mind musically. I love Killing Joke but NOT Outside the Gate.
OTG needs reappraisal. It's not top tier KJ but it just doesn't deserve the vilification It's received over the years.
Tbf.. I've same outlook as theJAZMAN. If I could I'd buy a property in New Zealand too. 💥🤣😑
He was right about the Middle East. 1990 saw the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait which was followed shortly by the Gulf War.
he didn't talk about the fall of the Berlin wall though
Geordie thinking, "Jaz, keep off the drugs fella"
"had to streamline the rhythm section." In other words Paul Raven and Paul Ferguson didn't want anything to do with Outside the Gate as they knew it was the vanity project of Jaz and Gerodie's and knew it would be crap. And it was! Killing Joke's worst album. Saying that Paul Raven did contribute a little bass work before he walked out on the album, but is uncredited. Geordie did most of the bass work.
Outside the gate is one of Killing Joke's best, as well as one of the greatest albums of all time
@@sonder152I'm sure Geordie and Jaz will be happy that someone actually liked it.
Coleman's one of the underrated intellectuals in Rock, always has something interesting to say. Of course the interview had to be ruined by the obnoxious dork of an interviewer and it's nice Coleman interrupted him and put him in his place at the end.
how was he obnoxious?
Geordie is very masculine. that leg moving is...
An unnecessary jibe there directed at Ferguson. Jeremy must have hated him at this point in time.
Interviewer is an Aimee MAN clone
Who is that poor unfortunate-looking soul?
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Jaz can't stop talking for more than a millisecond, Geordie can't get a word in edgewise. So Paul Raven still played on the 1988 album, and they brought back the original rhythm section and sound some years later. Anyone can determine it was Jaz Coleman's daft idea to get rid of Paul Ferguson and Paul Raven; in 1992 ALL the Killing Joke members except Jaz played on Murder Inc. LP with Chris Connelly doing vocals. The New Romantic crap failed and they KJ went right back to hardcore in 1990.
Is that harry potter
"Basically, we WERE a heavy and innovative punk band. Then our management/the label saw how well the new romantic movement was selling, so we ditched half the band and went the sappy, new wave route."
Doctor Feelfunny I wouldn't class nighttime as sappy it's the best album they did
Doctor Feelfunny What a simplistic and rubbish perspective on the band’s change during this time. And Brighter Than A Thousand Suns really shouldnt be judged by the awful released mixes but the original intended mixes that thankfully got restored
I concur.
Are you stuck in the 80s?
@Doctor Feelfunny: I don’t think that’s a fair assessment at all. Thankfully KJ did move away from the punk elements that were present on the first few albums and continued to experiment finding their own voice. If anything the band became progressively heavier and heavier.
Ha ha ha,,,history proved,thatn even Jaz can be wrong...062...listen to the Album and you`ll see why we changed the musicians...well it turned out to be the worst KJ Album ever! And despite that...they were talking about fashion in between...even 1988 Jaz`Haircut was redicilous! IT WAS REDICILOUS!
A Band ahead of their time.... then & now.