I will find my own purpose, and purge this planet of all who oppose me, human and Pokémon alike... The world will heed my warning... The reign of Mewtwo will soon begin!
this tournament basically basically made the opinion of "Mewtwo is TRASH, Honestly the worst of all the dlc to come out." to "Dang mewtwo is so good, I'm actually maining him, don't get why people call em bad"
though they patched the aeriel adjustments way earlier like in 1.1.2 I think? He's been a solid high tier, it's just that to many people were to scared to pick em up, cause they felt they'd just lose to shiek, cloud, etc.
There talking about melee all the dlc are broken clouds f-smash killed me at 40% when I was at the ledge and mewtwo well you know what I’m gonna Cough up-smash kills me at 70% it’s broken like all of them
Abadango's run through this tournament was one of my favourite things to ever happen in Smash. He completely shattered the idea that Mewtwo is weak, lit the crowd up so hard with those footstools, and dominated so many strong players with a completely foreign character played incredibly well. Fuck yeah!
dca564 which is boring imo. These two characters overall are boring to watch for me. I dont like floaty and slow characters specially when one of then is just waiting for punishes
+Dantiel Barbosa welp i dont know what to tell you the only feezable way for abadango to win is to wait for an option that doesnt involve getting grabed to death or a combo or getting up smashed
I'm glad there's still talented players willing to spend their time getting better with non top tier characters. It was one of the best tournaments I've watched in a while, thanks abadango. #AbadangoIsTheRealM2k
Anyone wish they'd change the music to something more intense :T Or that they make levels that would be legal on the builder for some variety, I mean you can Smashville on there
gman dog6 smashboards.com/threads/first-official-4br-smash-for-wii-u-tier-list.429817/ EDIT: I know you want a 1.1.5 OFFICIAL tier list but its official lol...
***** A good character that could end the match almost as it starts, a Character that claims victory using the same combo nearly every match she's in. That's not entertaining to watch. Entertaining to play, maybe, but not fun to watch. I'm not singling him out by any means, I'm just speaking of the vids I see end in the same way.
After being abysmal in Melee and possibly even worse in early Smash 4, it feels AMAZING to say that Mewtwo is top tier in a legit Smash game, almost like a dream come true.
Have I missed some patches? I really don't remember Mewtwo being such a tough nut to crack... Couple that with Abadango's legendary zoning and spacing, this Pokemon becomes a freakin menace...
His dash speed went from WFT speed to Meta Knight speed, and then Sheik speed, his aerials have greater range, are less laggy, and last longer, and his smashes and throws are almost super good.
Honestly I think pugwest will start placing really well at some point, like some top 8 placings. (Although I haven't kept up with the scene for a short while, so I'm not sure how he does currently.)
true reality ok, so reaching a tournament grand finals and losing against a top player means that you're a noob. Dabuz lost 3-0 Against ZeRo at Apex 2015, i guess he is a noob too? And i don't like Dabuz but i mean what you're saying isn't legit
***** Yeah. I'm not saying that she doesn't need some nerfs. But folks should ask for buffs for the rest of the roster. Except sheik, mario and rosalina! They don't deserve a buff.
+Snap Cion No. After 1.1.4, many considered Mewtwo midtier. 1.1.5 made him just good enough to be thought to be high tier-ish. Only non-pros thought Mewtwo was bad after the last couple patches.
I've been watching the footage slowed down to try to learn Aba's playstyle, and I couldn't help but notice a few good times he could've done some footstool DJC combos.
The characters with the most obvious and easiest combos to execute are favored over others because they're unorthodox and take far more practice and precision as well as studying what combos they can perform on certain character weights
Am I right about this? Prior to this event, out of 58 characters, only 3 (Diddy, Sheik, ZSS) have ever won a major in Smash 4 (not counting secondaries). Out of the 55 others, the 4th character to win a major ended up being Mewtwo. Not Bayonetta, not Pikachu, not Rosaluma, but a character that was once considered bottom-5. This teaches me 3 things. 1, everyone needs to shut the fuck up about Bayonetta. 2, Mew2King needs to go to the doctor AND actually main Mewtwo. And 3, Sheik, the cancer of the metagame, getting nerfed is the best thing to ever happen in Smash. My respect for this game has grown substantially after Pound, because if Mewtwo has won a major, then there is hope for everyone (Unless ZeRo mains Bayonetta and she never gets nerfed, then it's gonna be Sheik all over again).
im going to a tournament soon called dog pound. im planning on using mewtwo the majority of the time. ive been using mewtwo since he came to the e shop so i pretty much know him perfectly. any advice for someone going to their first big tournament?
+Jovani Carmona I don't think M2K is the best Mewtwo (in Smash 4) or the best Smash 4 player. But he is good in other Smash games and plays better with other characters in Smash 4 (Cloud, for example).
+Julian Angeloni yea like zero said if put forth more effort into smash 4 than melee than he would place higher than he usually does. but while putting effort into both games he still places well in tournaments.
He lost to saj in winners Florida bayonetta player. Then in losers he lost to mr.ii Japanese Robin player. (I believe the Loser match wasn't recorded unfortunately )
+MaxTheHunter Absolutely; anything WFT can do, Mewtwo does better. Less laggy moves, a fast/long reflector, more range, disjointed moves. WFT has to pile pressure on to win, but closing the gap in the first place is very hard.
Just realized that Mario and Mewtwo has the same avatar pose.
HOLY SHIT THEY DO
+John Titor Was about to say the same, haha
+John Titor OMG
+John Titor yo! mind blown!!
What is life
Guys it's not Bayonetta that needs banning, it's the Animal Crossing theme on Smashville.
THAT SONG WILL KILL THIS GAME
+11volt It's a shame T&C has a monopoly on all the choice Animal Crossing music
+11volt Usually I don't care for the background music, but that song killed all the hype for the final match.
ian eckelman I swear I have seen players actually change the music before matches in tournament though.
JacobZion Tortimer Island Medley isn't that bad. It's fast paced and energetic at least.
+11volt I was at Pound and every time the claps came up in that song the crowd clapped. It was annoying.
The first DLC character to win a major.
Not Bayonetta.
Not Ryu.
Not Cloud.
Not Corrin.
Mewtwo.
Damn.
+DukeJorge Not Cloud
+Ganso not even a real option lol
+Ephermera Lucas is alright, but he's very underrated, since barely any one plays him. I'd say C+ for him, but definitely not D
i blame the sheik nerf
Not roy
Mewtwo strikes back.
I wish Mewtwo has a Kill Counter move with that name.
We dreamed of creating the world's most powerful pokemon, and we succeeded.
I will find my own purpose, and purge this planet of all who oppose me, human and Pokémon alike... The world will heed my warning... The reign of Mewtwo will soon begin!
LOL
TheDevious Until Arceus and Mega Ray Quay-Quay almost stripping him of that title.
Abadango the real mew2king
+lordmew5 very threatening
+lordmew5 Oh look it's the Sonic fankid who whined over Sonic spinning to winning.
Bruh
+A S H L E Y lol
+lordmew5 You're right. someone should kill themself over a opinion. how dare they have a opinion.
this tournament basically basically made the opinion of
"Mewtwo is TRASH, Honestly the worst of all the dlc to come out."
to
"Dang mewtwo is so good, I'm actually maining him, don't get why people call em bad"
Since the patch that made his aerials way less laggy he was honestly a solid high tier lol.
though they patched the aeriel adjustments way earlier like in 1.1.2 I think?
He's been a solid high tier, it's just that to many people were to scared to pick em up, cause they felt they'd just lose to shiek, cloud, etc.
+Allan Graves aerial lag got reduced in 1.1.4.
There talking about melee all the dlc are broken clouds f-smash killed me at 40% when I was at the ledge and mewtwo well you know what I’m gonna
Cough up-smash kills me at 70% it’s broken like all of them
David Cosgrove I wonder why they buffed a dlc character hmmmm
Pay to win plus they nerf the old ones
Abadango's run through this tournament was one of my favourite things to ever happen in Smash. He completely shattered the idea that Mewtwo is weak, lit the crowd up so hard with those footstools, and dominated so many strong players with a completely foreign character played incredibly well. Fuck yeah!
What a boss aba is, I can't wait to see him in more future tourneys
+Huy Nguyen he wont be winning that much. beliveme
I bet Mew2King watches this to study it.
Lol
He did recently used m2 at a tournament so...
elvis perez Yeah that's why I said it
+BRIE Puff M2Noob is doomed in smash 4 accept it
+alfanauta I'd love to see you beat M2K lol
easy to forget dabuz and nairo were at this tournament
Esam, mr r also
The Ark Builder Top 4*. And ESAM doesn't have the best results lately.
The Ark Builder ESAM in 2015 frequently got top 8 and top 3. This year, he has gotten 13th-9th the past like 4-5 nationals.
+BrickNGames dam its a shame vg wont upload the nairo vs mr ll upset
Huy Nguyen it wasnt streamed
Can't spell ally without back to back L's
bruh
+MeSoleHorny I don't get this L joke people keep saying
+issac mankind L means lose or loss...
bclambert2 lmao golden comment
Damn xD
Wow a GF with no Shiek, Rosalina, or Bayonetta
Because most of the American smash community rely on a tier list....
Thats because Zero didn't enter the tournement😂
+Daniel Alvarado
So does Japan, but theirs is different. And their players are phenomenal.
+Antidote.exe yeah true but they don't rely on tier list like we do.
+Daniel Alvarado Do you have any basis/info for saying that?
ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ Raise your Abadongers ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ
JGee up up goes mah donger _-/
come on we all were cheering for abadango he really deserved it
i wasnt. he plays like shit just waiting for punishes
+Dantiel Barbosa well when you fight a character like mc braindead (mario) thats how you have to play.
dca564 which is boring imo. These two characters overall are boring to watch for me. I dont like floaty and slow characters specially when one of then is just waiting for punishes
+Dantiel Barbosa welp i dont know what to tell you the only feezable way for abadango to win is to wait for an option that doesnt involve getting grabed to death or a combo or getting up smashed
+dca564 true
I'm glad there's still talented players willing to spend their time getting better with non top tier characters. It was one of the best tournaments I've watched in a while, thanks abadango.
#AbadangoIsTheRealM2k
nah. camping SB and waiting for punishes is boring. Awful and boring playstyle overall, he did the same with MK
+Dantiel Barbosa He doesn't play for your entertainment.
this Mew2 is the true King
Mewtwo is getting the respect he deserves thanks to the buffs. Thank you sakurai and thank you Abodango
+Brownie_Takeshi respect Ab(A)dango* 's his name too then huehuehue (you spelled it wrong)
Thomas de Waal
oh ok i didn't see it. thanks
no problem dude :) love your picture dude!! Yamamoto ftw
+Zoramine Fae waiting for Lucas to win a national
アボダンゴ草
Anyone wish they'd change the music to something more intense :T
Or that they make levels that would be legal on the builder for some variety, I mean you can Smashville on there
I agree with the music. The music is not bad but it just doesn't fit with the Grand Finals. The animal crossing music is just too peaceful.
+Hekeder totally, it gets tiring tho hearing the same songs, I wanna hear some Magnus' theme in omega Palutenas temple
+joshua ortega You gotta get people to go another stage. I'd rather have Bayonetta than Smashville.
Curly Fry That's why I turn the chance down on songs to play that aren't really battle music.
Shoutouts to the Robin cosplayer holding up Abadango after the win.
Abadango is so fun to watch.
Quique Leal nice pfp
今みるとあばミュウツーがどれだけ空前を信頼してたかが分かるな
W H E R E S Y O U R T I E R L I S T S N O W ?
You do understand that mewtwo was buffed in the recent patches
+EP1C W1N this is why i'm face palming so hard at this comment section.
Oh boy, not another tiers don't exist comment...
+gman dog6 Actually they have..
gman dog6 smashboards.com/threads/first-official-4br-smash-for-wii-u-tier-list.429817/
EDIT: I know you want a 1.1.5 OFFICIAL tier list but its official lol...
sorry to all the pink fresh fans, but I'm happy to not see him in Grand finals
i like him well enough
+Sean TwoThousandSevenHundedTwo all of MDVA
+Mr.RatedGood I'm sort of a Pink Fresh fan for his Pit. Lost a little interest in him ever since he started maining Bayonetta.
+Mr.RatedGood "I'm happy to not see a top player in Grand Finals because he plays a good character." You guys make me sick
***** A good character that could end the match almost as it starts, a Character that claims victory using the same combo nearly every match she's in. That's not entertaining to watch. Entertaining to play, maybe, but not fun to watch. I'm not singling him out by any means, I'm just speaking of the vids I see end in the same way.
12:24 あばだんごがaMSaに下スマを決めた瞬間
So happy to see mewtwo got the love he deserves
After being abysmal in Melee and possibly even worse in early Smash 4, it feels AMAZING to say that Mewtwo is top tier in a legit Smash game, almost like a dream come true.
Have I missed some patches? I really don't remember Mewtwo being such a tough nut to crack...
Couple that with Abadango's legendary zoning and spacing, this Pokemon becomes a freakin menace...
His dash speed went from WFT speed to Meta Knight speed, and then Sheik speed, his aerials have greater range, are less laggy, and last longer, and his smashes and throws are almost super good.
Luigiofthegods If only all characters that needed improvements received buffs like Mewtwo...
Lookin at you, Zelda...
he though no one heard him say nigga say 2:15 lol
My kind of esports commentators
+oreofestar Lol thats twice hes done that
+oreofestar You're gonna get him fired lol
no bayonetta in grand finalS glad :D
Okay? Since when has Bayonetta ever got to Grand Finals before anyways?
You're a tool if you're making comment just bash on one character. Get a life.
+Dark Matter uhhh.....
+Dark Matter Penis
+Dark Matter what
+Vinson Games this guy getting all mad xd
Now only if pugwest can pull something like this off...We Need Marths!
Honestly I think pugwest will start placing really well at some point, like some top 8 placings. (Although I haven't kept up with the scene for a short while, so I'm not sure how he does currently.)
you'll see my bidou marth doc sonic and shulk in like 2 years so maybe that helps
JW Money He can...?
+JW Money tell that to mk leo
Xenoverse Welp MKLeo won 2 majors with Marth... LOL
did Abadango just forward smash aMSa in the face at the end?
12:25 abadango's best smash to the face
Congratulations to Mewtwo and especially Abandango
Pound 2016 - Abadango (Mewtwo) Vs. Ally (Mario) SSB4 Grand Finals - Smash Wii U - Smash 4
so happy to see an amazing player using mewtwo and getting so far with him
lol m2k
lol
m2k
This tournament was fucking intense ! Good job to Ally to reach the grand finals
+true reality Lol why
He reached the grand finals, you can't say he is a noob
I knew he couldn't beat Abadango though
true reality ok, so reaching a tournament grand finals and losing against a top player means that you're a noob. Dabuz lost 3-0 Against ZeRo at Apex 2015, i guess he is a noob too? And i don't like Dabuz but i mean what you're saying isn't legit
***** Sure. Among top tier players his playstyle is by far the most single minded. Adaptability is his enemy
his movement and awareness with those B reverses were so tight.
BUT BAYONETTA IS BROKEN~
She's sooo broken that Grand Finals was a Bayonetta dittos. LOL
And sadly she will stay broken..
Xenoverse I don't think so. The people working on the patches will release a new one and nerf her again if folks keep crying.
***** Yeah. I'm not saying that she doesn't need some nerfs. But folks should ask for buffs for the rest of the roster. Except sheik, mario and rosalina! They don't deserve a buff.
Matias Franco Gracia If that's the case where's jigglypuffs buffs! #BuffThePuff
The real Mew2king
3:15 Anyone know how to do that sliding spot dodge? That's a hella good approach.
I know it's really easy with bidou, but it's just frame perfect inputs I believe. Not sure exactly what though
Maybe a perfect pivot spot dodge
MEW2 2 OP
#NERF OR #BAN
CARRIES PLAYERS
SHOULVE HAD WOLF
$3:99
WE CANT LEARN MATCHUPS
You. I like you.
Jester Jaded ayy no problem man
looool smash community in a nutshell
+NO MIL I'm sorry would you like to go back to pre patch didddy?
Reds Byrd diddy was worse than Bayonetta no thanks
Mewtwo just jumped to top tier.
Jacob Tietjen (teleported)
why they put abadango's name in the abadango saga tournament?
MEWTWO IS TOO OPP BANN HIM BANNNNNN HIMMMMMM
bruh.
Kenny Chen !!!!!!!
+Dantiel Barbosa well, I wouldn't call it rape though
Kenny Chen Ownage xD ?
+Dantiel Barbosa more like get rekt
Potential high tier character!
He is high tier lol
Mewtwo has always been considered bad but now with Abadango....
+Snap Cion
No. After 1.1.4, many considered Mewtwo midtier. 1.1.5 made him just good enough to be thought to be high tier-ish. Only non-pros thought Mewtwo was bad after the last couple patches.
+Ckarasu I haven't been keeping up on the patches lately so thanks for telling me
+Simon Mejía dude wait till they develop that floaty ass combo metagame of his. double up air to sweetspot bair is a good 50% lol
I miss Abadango's Pac-Man :'^(
But I'm glad for him winning a tournament :^)
I miss his meta knight
I miss the Wario as well as MK.
+Star Tron saaaaaammmmeeee
+Yumoda He still uses him for some matchups, like against Rosalina.
Is he insane?!
0:40, was that a geeettttt dunked on? Did he actually reference Undertale?
I've been watching the footage slowed down to try to learn Aba's playstyle, and I couldn't help but notice a few good times he could've done some footstool DJC combos.
The Trolldier They can be really hard to pull off, and Sakurai might be watching....
12:25 Teammate/Friend takes an elbow to the face
Can someone tell me, what are the prizes for first, second and third place ?.
It was a magnificent fight. Abadango is great!
"This name is stupid, go ahead and take it." - Mew2king to Abadango
The characters with the most obvious and easiest combos to execute are favored over others because they're unorthodox and take far more practice and precision as well as studying what combos they can perform on certain character weights
今月のあばだんごから来たけどほんとにaMSaさん殴ってて草
Mewtwo deserves to be higher tier than mario now after THIS! Although I main both characters... I love mewtwo a little more. :)
honestly, mario>mewtwo cause of results, but i still love both
***** why lol, tier lists help to decide who to play if you want to win.
ABADANGO!! MEWTWO LIVES!!
So, is mewtwo's down special just useless? Also what's the point of using his down smash instead of forward smash?
I like the part where Mewtwo was winning, because Mario is an over-rated piece of ****.
+J Swizzle ok
I'VE BEEN PLAYING MEW2 ALOT IN FG
HE IS HONISTLY REAALLY FUN TO PLAY NOW
AND I'VE BEEN REALY SUCCESSFUL WITH HER
Funny that the first dlc to win a national was literally the first dlc character of sm4sh.
wait whos the other guy next to AmSa and Abadango codplaying as robin?
I think Mr ii
ayyy go Abadango
Am I right about this? Prior to this event, out of 58 characters, only 3 (Diddy, Sheik, ZSS) have ever won a major in Smash 4 (not counting secondaries).
Out of the 55 others, the 4th character to win a major ended up being Mewtwo. Not Bayonetta, not Pikachu, not Rosaluma, but a character that was once considered bottom-5.
This teaches me 3 things. 1, everyone needs to shut the fuck up about Bayonetta. 2, Mew2King needs to go to the doctor AND actually main Mewtwo. And 3, Sheik, the cancer of the metagame, getting nerfed is the best thing to ever happen in Smash.
My respect for this game has grown substantially after Pound, because if Mewtwo has won a major, then there is hope for everyone (Unless ZeRo mains Bayonetta and she never gets nerfed, then it's gonna be Sheik all over again).
Inb4 Charizard wins a major Kreygasm Kappa
You know people aren't shutting up about bayo ever, but she should not get banned.
+Xenoverse nah. Mewtwo does need to get banned as well too
+Dantiel Barbosa is everyone in the youtube comment section retarded but me?
Aki Riolu bitch...that was sarcasm. Why whould they ban a mid-tier...chill ffs ._.
As a Canadian, I was rooting for Abadango before the match began.
Mewtwo for life.
The "pre-set-mid-set-pound" is also a true combo, & the official combo of 2016. Guess that's why they call it the Pound trophy lol.
im going to a tournament soon called dog pound. im planning on using mewtwo the majority of the time. ive been using mewtwo since he came to the e shop so i pretty much know him perfectly. any advice for someone going to their first big tournament?
wish you luck
thank u :3
YES ABADANGO MY HOMBOI WINNING FINALS WITH MY HOMEBOI MEWTWO
I'm loving the attention Mewtwo is getting with Abadango and Mew^2.
A certain "king" might want to learn from these real Mewtwo mains.
+Julian Angeloni mew2king is still the best
+Jovani Carmona he absolutely is not
>absolutely not
lol ok tell me who else has as much skill as m2k across all smash games
+Jovani Carmona I don't think M2K is the best Mewtwo (in Smash 4) or the best Smash 4 player.
But he is good in other Smash games and plays better with other characters in Smash 4 (Cloud, for example).
+Julian Angeloni yea like zero said if put forth more effort into smash 4 than melee than he would place higher than he usually does. but while putting effort into both games he still places well in tournaments.
wow such good Mewtwo play.
Even though abadango won and played extraordinary... Ally was really on fire this set. He played out of his mind.
12:25 Abadango elbows aMSa in the face
That Mango burn was savage...
Top 8 pink fresh vs Mr R?
"Coming all the way from 7th... If Ally would have won the tournament, that would have been a Mango run basically."
"It is. He finished second."
savage as fuck
I looking at this to see if I can be better as Mario!
happy to see such a good mewtwo
Did you guys see that down throw up tilt combo?! Fucking Sick!
Who did nairo get knocked out by? I remember hearing commentators say he was out around 99th. I'd want to see that match
He lost to saj in winners Florida bayonetta player. Then in losers he lost to mr.ii Japanese Robin player. (I believe the Loser match wasn't recorded unfortunately )
Awwww aMSa coming up to congratulate him
Abadango just ended that man's career
This is the weirdest GF ever. I hope people start to respect m2 now cause imo hes a solid high B/Low A tier character now
what happened to his pacman
he dropped pacman back when he was playing meta knight
+Psychoace and wario
he dropped the trash character
Popping that balloon with style
The Legend reawakens.
just for one tourney xF
It's great to see Nintendo's biggest icons in Grand Finals of a major tournament for Smash Bros.
bad habit of abadango
always trying to down tilt when he is becket in a corner
I wonder if mewtwo would of still won a big tournament without his buff? Even by the hands of abadango.
I don't know, Mewtwo was pretty god awful before its buffs.
Ally fought so good in the other matches, I wanted him to win this shit, oh well.
Where is Bayonetta?
imagine what mew2king could have done in the days of melee if mewtwo was this strong
Can we get a rule for not going to the same stage even if people agree to it?
Whaaaa? All the Bayonettas were defeated? As much as I dislike Mewtwo (horrid MU for my main :o) it's refreshing to see him make GF :)
+MaxTheHunter It's Wii Fit Trainer with a Robin secondary. :p
+MaxTheHunter Absolutely; anything WFT can do, Mewtwo does better. Less laggy moves, a fast/long reflector, more range, disjointed moves. WFT has to pile pressure on to win, but closing the gap in the first place is very hard.
Damn this vid was intense like crazy
Abadango did amaaazing. I feel that when all the top players get used to Mewtwo, he won't be winning many more grand finals. That's just me though.
Doc Man That pretty much happened
They should show the bracket after each video :/
So Bayonetta wasn´t even in Grand Finals and many players want to ban her, I suppose that now they will also want to ban Mewtwo and Meta Knight.
sheik and ZsS are winning Toruneys to...they should nerf them as well
Sheik was already heavily nerfed, so much that some players consider that she is no longer a good character.
lucemonfalldownmode yeah true.
ZsS tho...third place on a mayor after a nerf is pretty good i would say
I guess so. Anyway, we´ll have to wait until Apex or EVO to se who really is the strongest character
Is this the first time a Mewtwo has taken a major grand-finals? Someone actually please inform me on this one
Yus
Heyyy, that's pretty good. Cheers guys.
+Fantastic Fierasfer First dlc character to take a major iirc
ever since Aba took the W, there at least 5 more Mewtwos at my weekly spot.
sigh
I feel ally could have taken those matches if he went for more ledge trumps to b-air
Mewtwo has way too many options coming on stage so it was almost impossible knowing if aba was gonna go to the edge or not
I think mewtwo should be able to recover a bit. maybe 10 percent damage gone in about 3 seconds instead of confusion.