IRON TWINS made EASY! SPEED FARM w/ 3 RARE TEAM!
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- RAID Shadow Legends | Iron Twins 15 Easy, Fast Pain Keeper Team!
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Today in RAID we'll cover the easiest Iron Twins speed farming team featuring the 3 Pain Keeper & Geomancer build with a block damage champion.
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I should’ve been smarter than this, but I thought this was a team made up of only 3 rares and got excited hahahaha
Same, like its just the same team everyone knows about, but I thought this was something original (news flash: it wasn't)
me too
clickbaiting got you
Same
Lol
3 years and I'm yet to pull a geo
Same it’s crazy the kinda rng everyone gets. My first leggo was dutches and I have people in my clan that have spent hundreds to try and get her and alas nothing. Then there’s me watching my clan mates pull geo after geo 😂
They've done a few guaranteeds on him that weren't crazy
Same.Iv3 jad 3 cold-hearted from month i in the game
I'm starting to believe some of these champions are code,so it's harder to pull them.
Oof
3 Pain Keepers: Check
Geo: Check
Some crazy Lego: Nope
Bummer. So close.
Same here
You can use a maneater instead
@@kaboose182he ingores unkillable whenever he gets below 40% hp
Helicath isn't a crazy Lego unless you are new to the game... it was a fairly straightforward event to get it
Lego is easier to get but all you need is a block damage champion.
Thanks for the video. I have a question though. Can you use demytha for the block damage?
Thanks for Soda Dragon and Ash on this one. I'm just glad that I actually have the characters needed for once as I need to get a bit further on my Iron Twins.
Thanks for watching ;)
Can I use Demytha or Maneater,
Is there a possibility to use 1 turn block damage champions like warcaster or demytha? Or perhaps swapping a painkeeper out for a renegade?
Yeah, I'm sitting in exactly the same position! Anyone knows ?
Holy moly...first Time ewer i do same as video tell me to do and its working like a dream!!! Thanks now i can finally farm iron twins..stage 15 1min 54 sec. Usually these wideos dont work. I have tried about 19different versions with helicat and newer work..i took roschard out of wault and IT Works nice and smooth!!😂
helicath literalyl cant work because you cant speedtune him... He places increase defence whne his block damage wears off. That makes the boss go out of turn. No chance.
And For that Stone what IS Price clearing that stage i got 5star seer soul😂😂 crushing rend here we go💪
Congrats!
Please include Demytha in the next video as the Block Damage champ!
3rd BD option is Alsgor. I've run Armiger and/or Coldheart in place of Geo. One other big thing missing is all 3 PKs need the A2 fully booked as well, if not they(she) will take an extra A1 turn and her A1 has TM boost. So if you're having problems with this it could be a PK with A2 not fully booked. There is also a slow PK version of this, but has very small, like 1 in 500, fail rate.
the problem with alsgorr is that he places decrease speed so you either cant ascend him or need to run him low accuracy and pray for no 3% procs
@@logan5018can you do this with double or triple renegade?
@yohomie4182 probably not since her cooldowns cannot be reduced by other renegades
Does Helicath's BD turning into Defense up, thus boosting Iron twins turn meter throw the whole team off the loop????
@@user-hy7bj5rd9d Pretty sure the speed tune takes this into account. Follow the tune and you'll be fine.
yO @ASH, ... and folks,... it is crucial that this team works with those speeds like from Lvl 12 somewhere , cant remember so to this point one you have to get by yourself... and the Geomancer works fine with various speeds. ... what i experienced was i had forgoten that my Geo is not speed tuned so i had him in something like 201 and the battle vent through , but then managed to find a better artifact so my speed is now 218 ( not 216, but i guess if he would be over 220 he would be faster that block damage ) and works like a charm so something in between should be fine i guess... :) Imo try that out what you have ALMOST build in that range, and if not then use another resources, dont waste them ...cheers
Does this speed tune work on earlier stages? Or just stage 15?
Same question someone pls answer
Ash, I for one appreciate you releasing videos that other people might of already released as I come to your channel first for my Raid knowledge, You always give props to whoever had the idea and I feel that is good. If you look at the news, most news stations are saying the same thing, people just like to watch their news channel.
Just built this team. Lvl 50 Tower, 3 3star Pain Keepers and a Geo. Copied your speeds and presets. Works perfectly. Thanks!
Great content. I hope the next one has more content for newer users. Im at level 53 and still havent been able to get past Stage 1🤣 and I feel I have some pretty good champions built. Obviously not geared towards this Dungeon though.
That dungeon is no joke took me a while to start getting finishes on it as well and I'm almost 80 still have yet to finish stage 11 and I have some pretty decent champs
I'm a newbie, so I don't know how to do this kind of stuff, but a recommendation got me up couple of levels is that It's all about survivability ... Vinoth , scyl, duhr and other healers/ revivers will help a lot.
Thanks for tuning in ;)
Now I just have to get 2 Champs I don't have and multiples of one of them...the rng gods are against me 😔😪😥😢😭
im sorry if you dont have a painkeeper you arent ready for twins. Not even close.
@zily7866 I have been playing for over 3 yrs...I haven't as of yet pulled these champs...I can do iron twins but I am always looking for better and faster teams....raid's rng kicking my account's rear
I have another team I use that uses 3 rares and Emic if you have him, 90% win rate:
Emic - 260 (Trunkheart Sanctuary - First, Vinequake - Second)
Pain Keeper 1 - 223 (Combat tactics - First, Spectatcular sweep - Second AND Opener)
Pain Keeper 2 - 211(CT - First, SS - Second)
Geomancer - 205 (Quicksand Grasp - First)
Coldheart - 226 (Heartseeker - First)
Emic has about 75k HP, everyone else approx 45k, make sure you have high crit dmg on Coldheart and over 500 accuracy on Geomancer. (Very easy to achieve, i did mid game with perception).
I usually take him down in a little over a minute.
Only downside to this setup is that Iron Twins can ignore unkillable with certain hit after their HP drop below 40%
Just built this team from skratchs video and works great!
@@nathanhenry8537 Thank you for crediting scratch, I wasn't sure where it came from, I got the build from the HH Optimser :)
Thanks for tuning in ;)
Hey Ash. Great video man. But please can you let us know if this will with someone like Demytha or maneater.
I love Soda Dragon, very cool guy living in California, most probably San Diego. Tried to follow him after he left Raid. His wife is a Sci-Fi writer, dude, check her out ! He tried to keep a channel about vintage games such like Ghosts N Goblins, Double Dragon, Arkanoid, and so...
Works perfect. 2:48 run with no Brimstone on Tower
check that...then the fails after the 1st success...1 win 4 losses.
6W - 7 L
Losses are right near the end most of the time. Some coming mid-way. Brimstone would probably make this close to 100%
Worked my way from 13 - 15 with this. On 13 it failed 3 times but 15 100% alltime. I took Acc from Geomancer to test it and over 15 minutes fight no failure. Very good Mullet and Ash.
Wow! perfect timing!!! I have 5 pain keepers, a Roshcard and just got my first geo during the summon events!!! 👍(together with Necmo, Monster Archer, first Seer and first Cold Heart.. just this month 😁)
Congrats!
@@ASH-RAID thankyou and I built my team just like in this video and it runs smoothly 100% no fail run 😄... my question now is, is it worth buying iron twin keys for farming?(somebody told me maybe it is worth to buy on sunday for double reward)
@@NicoTacoToxicato What masteries did you use with the champs? I have all the champs but I'm not certain what masteries to use.
Took me a month to get my champions lined up with books and stats, but the first day of trying this I swept hardest difficulty in 6 shots. 6 seconds slower than my previous fastest, but this was 100%. The other was 50/50 a win rate. Thanks.
I've been using 3x painkeeper with roshcard the tower, and gnishak since like a week after iron twins came out. Geomancer in place of gnishak is good but I use the rat in sand devil also so he already has all the accuracy gear, and has brimstone blessing. If you don't have accuracy gear to do it, you can use elenaril for the unresistable hp burn.
I play Iron Twins every day. You can buy another set of six keys using rubies (I usually don't) to gain more for the summoning pool.
Ash my friend i have been following you since i started rsl 3 years ago (even before HH). I stayed away mainly from Iron twins as only got so far with it. managed to fluke a couple of affinities to 15 but not consistently. this video has just opened up awakening farm for me thank you soooooo much
Any suggestion on a different 5th that would work with Geo and 3 Painkeepers?
That's exactly my team man. Shout out to MulletReaver.
Thanks for tuning in ;)
Thanks, Ash, this makes my day, being trying so hard to overcome stage 15 for a very long time, now I am finally able to farm with an average time of 3min each run with this combo
i seem to be having issues with stage 15, at some point in the middle to end of the fight, the painkeepers are stuck with 1 turn cooldown on their A3 which results in roshcard being 1 cooldown behind on the A3 and the team getting wiped. Not sure why it keeps happening, followed all the directions in the video and the only person with any masteries is geo, so nobody should be getting their turn meter or cooldowns messed up.
Holy cow, what an epic video. Just made that team and went from level 12-15 easy as. Thanks dude!
Congrats!
Brilliant video.
I have a +3, 5* Awakened Roshcard that only really appears in My Faction wars team.
I also had a 2nd unused Geo. built this team and with Brimstone on Roshcard and 520+ accuracy on both Roshcard & Geo, this works brilliantly!!
Faster time is 90 seconds.
Thanks man! Glad you like it ;)
I've had 3 painkeepers in my vault for awhile now and for some reason never looked for a team like this. My Rosh is at 254 as I got tired of looking for something with 2 less speed, but it works fine anyway. I was just doing stage 12 with a crap ton of shield guys and Geo, but this is far better. Many thanks for this.👍
Thanks for watching ;)
this work's on all affinity?
I built this team and it worked. Mine was a bit slower than yours was. I took me 10:44 to clear stage 15 but I was finally able to beat it. Thank you so much
Thanks for watching ;)
This build changed it for me. Under 2 minutes EASY NOW. DANG
Emic 244, Geo 181, Gnut 157, Pain Keeper 1 @214, Pain Keeper 2 @220
No offense I wanna see creators create teams that will work with accounts that only uave lvl 5 or less guild halls. Love ya work though
Same with me dont have most of legendaries they have or the gear still
Can someone explain why helicath speed and roschard speed requirement are different? They both have the same number of abilities with the same number in cooldown
YES!! I have all the champs required!! Thanks Ash!!
Would this work with Demytha?
Emic, 2 Painkeepers, Coldheart, Geo is what I use for really fast Iron Twins 15 runs
Thanks for tuning in ;)
1.Will Alsgor work?
2.Is there any teams to use Noct the paralyser in sand devil?
yes, that's who I use. Alsgor, geo and 3x PK. DO NOT ascend him cos it messes up the speed tune. He will work at lvl 50 unascended.
Oh damn I already did🙆,but I don't have him built with accuracy 😐
I have 5 PK's, 4 geo's, and at least 1 roshcard. This will be my new team for twins. If they ever let us empower rares, I am set for some.
I love those easy to get teams of which I dont have 4 out of 5 champions :D Maybe one day there will be a guide of super common champions who are as good at this job as those who are virtually impossible to get :D
This changed everything for me. Honestly man, I only watch HH and you and I knew something like this was out there. But SO glad you posted this. I have LOATHED this dungeon and thankfully I had three PKs. Thanks a ton.
Thanks for tuning in ;)
@@ASH-RAIDdo you tweak people accounts?
You can also use emic for unkillable instead of block dmg. This allows you to replace 1 of the pain keepers with a DPS like cold heart, ninja, gnut etc and make the run faster.
I am running Geo, Emic, 2x Painkeeper and Coldheart.
Thanks man!
What are your speeds for that one?
Helpful tip for those failing runs.
My runs were failing when following this video with the exact speeds. This was due to my 244 speed pain keeper using an A1 attack, which boosts turn meter and caused her to attack before the iron twins where she loses her block damage buff.
To fix this, I decreased my 244 speed pain keeper to 236 speed and haven’t had problems since.
I hope this helps 😊
there isnt 244 speed pain keeper
@@krisk6314 yes there is?
@@janeway9148 241 speed
Looking forward to finding out the alternatives to roshcard and helicath... I have everything else ready
Great video!
People: Just get two cold hearts
Me: *pulls one coldheart after years of playing and pulling*
People: Just get a geomancer.
For all those saying this 'nothing new' - that's partly true (same champs) - but these speeds are slower than when the team was originally posted, meaning your team unnecessarily took more turns, and a slower run time. These ones are way better. Also switching from Helicath to Roshcard helps (no unnecessary counterattack mechanic). My run time dropped from 5-6 mins to 2-3 mins with these changes.
I have Alsgore which is a two-turn blocker like Rosh and Heli. Why does nobody on any of these videos ever even mention Alsgore in these setups? Please expand your block damage heros. You've been a great help on all aspects of the game. Keep up the great work!
I'm glad you put together a team with few rarest I've been a long time watcher. I'm afraid to play player and still working with rares as my mainstay champions when it comes to sand devil I still haven't got past the second stage, and as far as the twins
Thanks for tuning in ;)
I’ve been needing to build one of these teams. Thanks Ash!
And shout out to Soda Dragon. I miss you!
If you do a deep dive on Iron Twins could you go over spds for stages other than max? I have 3 PKs but only 1 geo and hes in cb at 178 spd so is there a stage I can farm with that spd bc rn I dont even touch it anymore
12-13
There is a bit of wiggle room on the speeds. I used a similar comp from soda dragon gaming with maneater. I run the tower at 272 (old clan boss set up) painkeepers at 222,223,242 and Geo at 217 and it works.
Thanks man!
I use Alsgor and it fails most times. What is the Masteries ASH - why did you include these? WHich one messes with the Speed?
This team is very similar to what I've been using for months. I only have my Rothscard at 50, but was still able to get his speed high enough to outspeed Floor 15.
The team is Rothscard (50), Emic (60), Gnut (60), Pain Keeper (60), Pain Keeper (50).
Emic could be replaced with another Pain Keeper like this video I just already had him built fast. Using Gnut with his A3 and A1 only his A2 is turned off. Main issue with Emic though is Emic boosting Iron Twins turn meter with his buffs he gives. But it works great for me.
Clear time is around 2min 25sec
What speed is your emic I have 2 pk emic tower and geo
@@Jordan-d7p My Emic is 250 speed base and in Iron Twins. I have 2 speed extra in Demon Lord he is paired with Maneater to make me an unkillable team for Ultranightmare to 1 key it.
@John.Daehawk nice! I been running it today with his speed at 244 it works too, but I have myth fu unm team so I don't use emic anywhere lol
I have everything but geomancer and good enough gear with speed rolls. Also my block dmg champ is alsgor who can’t get ascended for that extra speed on the banner
Wonder if either of these speeds would work with Alsgor. I keep seeing Helicath and Roshcard teams, hoping that doesn't mean our resident Block Damage Barb isn't viable.
He should be but I haven't seen him used in this team yet. He has a two turn block damage on a four turn cooldown, fully booked, so unless his kit does something funky, it should work. curious to try.
I use this setup with Gnut instead of Geomancer. I can't figure out what is wrong because the block damage falls off at different spots. What am I not seeing? Any insight would be appreciated.
I hear a lot about speed tuning, but I never see anything being told why precisely these numbers? What is this based on?
[edit]: Also, I've had 3 or 4 Pain Keepers like forever, pulled a Roscard a while ago and I also have an Alsgor. I just don't have a geo, so whoelse can work for attack?
Still haven't pulled a Geo yet... any replacement for him?
Can you do this with demytha?
Not this team, no. You need two turns of block damage on a 4 turn cooldown. You need buff extenders for Demytha to work.
Ash my man, can we replace Geo with another burner ? like artak or teela ?
love your vids man keep up the good work
coldheart works
If you did the Emic fusion you can make this team subbing emic for the block damage and subbing coldheart for 1 painkeeper and you end up with an easy 1 min run. (on the plus side i use the emic for my CB team with the same speed)
Do got the Pains. No Geo though. Plenty of the "crazy Leggos", but none that come to mind for the purpose, right off the bat. Bummer. Also have atleast 3 or 4 Coldhearts.
St Nick has a 2 turn duration unkillable, would he also work in place of Roschard?
How would this work with 2 PK, 1 kymar, Geo, and Rosch the Tower?
I run the version of this exact team and speed tune but with coldheart instead of Geo because I built it before I pulled him and never changed it.
Thanks for tuning in ;)
Alsgor also works instead of roshcard
Thanks for watching ;)
I have 4 Geos (only have 1 built rn, working on 1 or two more soon), but Painkeeper is one of the 8 rares I've yet to pull. 😭
You can get pretty far in IT with 2 Geos if you aren't already! Just put a bunch of buffers/healers/revives in with them. Not as pretty as what Ash did but it gets the job done😂
@TheChachaful Noted! I'm only on stages 7-10 and wanted to build at least 1 just for IT. I know you just need a shitton of acc. Maybe I build one specifically for IT and another with high ACC but built more for arena.
Are the new harmony blessings good for the PKs? I have blessings on two of my PKs and all 3 are 5 star right now.
Doesnt this team negate geo's passive? It doesnt work with block damage, right? Btw been using this team with royal guard/coldheart. Thanks!
Good work Ash. Always look forward to watching your videos. Iron Twins is a pain. I personally feel like most iron Twins teams I see are not free to play friendly because I have none of the showcased champions. Just recently pulled a Warcaster but he still isn't enough for me to build a solid team.😂 We keep trying
lol.....all you need is to get 3 painkeepers.... no biggie ..... oh and an awakened this or awakened that.... its that simple ....light work.. love the vids man just thought that was funny i dont have one of any of those but i can beat the first 5 levels for now im 7 month in so.... thsnks keep em coming
Can I use Demytha as my block damage champ for this comp?
Thanks for that. Not hard to build since the speed is all that matters plus the acc for Geo. Easy farm now.
I never got a painkeeper in all the years I've been playing this. They must drop in masses soon I guess.
Sadly my Roshcard and Helicath are both in my CB team, so... I guess I could build my 2nd Helicath for this. Will wait to see what your other video covers first though.
Donate your other Helicath to me !
You don't need 4 turns of block damage for CB, you should try to rework the team. Also, yes, just build the 2nd Helicath for this, but the speeds are very similar to a working 3-1 UNM CB speed on Helicath (as the only block damage)
@@alicelaybourne1620 My CB team is an unkillable 1-key any difficulty. Helicath, Fahrakin, Ninja (Doompriest vs spirit), Roshcard, and Seeker. I got the team from a YST video. Built that team since I had no Maneater or other champs for other popular teams at the time.
Great team of course. I built an emic/geo/ gnut team with two painkeepers
i have the whole team running helicath with this exact set up and speeds but for some reason at 1min mark 1 PK always dies and im not able to complete the run :(
Will it work for demthya at 316 speed? Use her for UMN. My only block damage champ.
No. You can't rotate fast enough through her skills. Emic works with 2 Pain Keeper, a Geo and a Coldheart. It's also the fastest team so far with about 1 minute to do it. It can fail, but it's like a 90-95% success rate. Emic is good since he was a recent fusion and runns at a 271 speed. Must be booked on A2 and A3 and starts with his A3. Pain Keepers run at 245 and 247 and open up with the A2 but priority to A3 and they never even use the A1. Geo is at 250-is speed with A3 priorityand A2 off. Mine is at 254. Coldheart is good at 225 with priority to A3 but atarts with A1. A2 is turned off. You can use any other Max HP champ that doesn't do buffs instead of CH, but since she is void, it makes her not hit weak, aka, better even than Gnut...
@@biljancanin kinda sucks. Becuz I didnt get Emic. Plus some of those speed look pretty hard to get to, Hard but not impossible. I'll just have to wait a bit more until some of these champs present them selves when I'm pulling shards. Appreciate it 👍
This works amazing! Good job MulletReaver and Ash!!!
Thanks for tuning in ;)
Again, so many "players" complaining about the champ required for this one, but if they have the champs, they rant about the speed requirements. If you already have these champs, the time you spend on ranting on here should be spent instead on grinding the gear. If you do not have the required champs, well, guess what. Wait until you have them. We all did it. Sometimes you get lucky and pull them sooner than later. My Tower was sitting in the vault for quite some time till IT got released. Then he dusted his panta off and started putting in some work. Now he is retired again since Emic took his place...
Due to team restrictions on my account, I had to create a tune around my clan boss built Helicath that the speeds are a little easier to attain, for anyone that wants to know:
Helicath at 251, Pain Keepers at 199, 197, and 195, and DPS [I run Geomancer] at 206 - 218. All 5 have their A2's disabled.
It runs about 3 minutes per run. And while it has failed a couple times, it's got an overall win rate of upper 90's over the last 4 months. :D
Thanks man!
why would the speeds be different between Roshcard and Helicath?
@@ev4sive953 The original team runs the block damage at 270 - 280+ speed. I couldn't change the speed of my Helicath because it'd break my clan boss team.
Roschard? Check, only Spd 195 (very high for me), but I do have him. Painkeeper X3?? Got 1 that I've had on the back burner for a while. Geomancer? Yeah, but I've never gotten him into a state that impresses me. Guess I can try to bump up his Acc w/the free removal going. I rarely use guides, but I guess I'll look up Ash's.
For fillers... I've got Renegade at 50 w/ a few books. There's probably someone else with the CD bump, but I'll probably try a DPS, instead.
For the record, I really appreciate what Ash and other creators do. I'm a Low-to-No Pay Player. I don't have the time or budget to do the level of testing, so I mostly go with my instincts. Fortunately, my habit of over analyzing everything proves beneficial more often than not. Having a database of advice to refer to when I get it wrong is really helpful.
Yes sir. I use this team for Iron Twins and the same speed on Roshcard for unkillable clan boss Deacon Forever. You don’t need to even level up PK. It just takes longer.
Thanks for watching ;)
I've been switching between affinities before this, one I can since I no longer use Helicath on clainboss (thank you rabateater doing over 100m!) I can move him over here.
is there a way for demytha to work here? or does it do weird things because it's 1 turn less of a CD?
Can't wait for the next one to come out showcasing the more accessible team!
Thanks so much Ash! I've been looking for a budget iron twins squad for months
Dont think you where looking very hard then
HH Team finder and it will be there
This isnt anything new
@@Dripshadow1 I was mainly talking about yt videos
Thanks for watching :)
I have all of them, and this will be my next goal. Then, I will start my infinity CB tuning and masteries
Good luck ;)
i ate my painkeepers when i got rathalos i had 2 of them and alot of other epics lol i noobed it hard probably going to take me a long time to get them all back
I actually have everything to make this team. Thanks ash i highly appreciate you as always!!!
Thanks for watching ;)
Finally got a third painkeeper today, have been wanting to build this team for ages
Congrats!
I turn two of my painkeeper to food,before i learned how awesome they were.wish Plarium would insult a feature,that let you trade in Legos for a champion you want.
Also works with Coldheart instead of Geo.
Hey ash. It took a little while to figure out iron twins and one of the most important champions that got me to be successful is Alsgor can't beat combo of block damage and his passive decrease speed 2 turn when hit. That decrease speed is always on amazing I think. I don't speed tune anything either.
Thanks for tuning in ;)
I have been playing for years and just recently got my first ever pain keeper