I have never fully understood what quarter sawing wood truly was until I watched your video. Now I know how to do it and what to look for when buying it. Thanks so much for the education. Love your videos. Well done.
About 25 years ago I made a set of 3 conga's (drums) of quarter sawn red oak. For steambending, it 's the best wood I ever worked with. Nice to see you quarter sawing this beautiful material.
Not long at all when you enjoy what you’re doing. I loved watching this. Beautiful lumber. I wished I had gotten interested in this when I was younger. Thanks for posting the video. Keep them coming.
My dad and I had a Sanborn mini max portable mill when I was a kid. He was a master at cutting quarter saw boards and I didn’t even know it till I watched this video. Awesome
You can get a lot more quarter sawn boards. The process involves turning your cant a quarter turn back and forth. It is time consuming and gives you random width boards but will give you a lot more desirable lumber. This is the reason you see random width flooring in a lot of older homes that used materials from the home place to build.
Plus if you have the right trees this is the [figured] wood that guitar/fiddle etc makers find so desireable. I've seen electric guitar sized maple cuts go for $300
Agree 100%. Needs to be flipped for quarter sawn maximum yield. Widths will vary significantly, but the grain will be more consistent. This was just a "modified" flat sawn method, which = Flat + Riff + Quarter.
As a cabinet maker, I can truly appreciate this video. I always try to find the quartersawn lumber mixed in with the flat sawn lumber when I buy lumber.
Amazing - I can see clearly now thru my very old eyes I have to go find someone in my family tree to leave my equipment with someone as amazed by what nature has to offer. You make to best use of what you have and seem so grateful for all your discoveries that you are willing to share your love for it all.
El Dorado Woodcraft hobbies I had to laugh at this only because my 7 yr old grandson said the other day, “Gramma, even though I will hopefully be a grown man when you die, can I have all your tools?” Eek! Never be worth more dead than alive? It’s actually sweet. He has a love for what can be made and grain patterns already so it sees a logical choice. He may have to fight his dad for my mill though...
Ausome red oak video & beat wood-mixer equipment, too! My dad was a well known carpenter, maker of neat cherished furniture. He got much of his quality lumber from the far off rain forest of Honduras, etc. for an expensive cost, but he dearly valued his work, so only tried to use the very best! His name was Angus Edward Cowle!
Just a friendly observation, you should look into using a Humboldt undercut (perhaps technically called a modified Humboldt) on your felling cut. This way you maximize your board footage from the base. Love the little guy too, he's really enjoying the sawdust.
Nicely done - I worked as a incoming inspector and product matcher at local well known cabinetry company - when I trained people on the different type /grades of wood I would tell them quarter sawn looks like stretch marks on your body - I matched thousands of board feet of red and white oak - it's fun to learn new things
Thanks for this great video! I love that you get excited about seeing the beauty in the wood. As do I. A beautiful day, out in the forest, chainsaw in my hand-perfection!
Great video. Like you said It’s like opening a Christmas present. I love milling rough lumber. I shared your enthusiasm with each cut. This is a great learning tool. I’ll look for more of your videos; the next best thing to being there. Thanks, Sawdust Bob.
My friend thank you so much for your videos....I've watched a few. Just like your approach to things, your attitude and the content is just cool to see old things kept new. Keep cuttin dude
I see your little dog likes the boards. My dog got on some boards that I was staining for my ceiling. I still put them up and laugh every time I see the paw prints.
You can get 2 wide qtr sawn boards by cutting the log down the middle and taking one off each half. Then you can get 4 pc by cutting the halves down the middle getting two pc. from each. Next you have to put each quarter on the saw such that you make a cut to the center of the log and then get two more boards off each quarter log, 8 pc. That gives you 14 boards of as much width as you can get and still be quartered. After this what you are likely to get are boards displaying rift, still nice but they won't be true quartered & they will be narrow. Red oak doesn't usually display as much nice fleck as white oak. You need to be very careful and align the saw cuts with the pith of the log on both ends. Logs should be end coated as soon as they hit the ground and then be sawn as soon as possible. Otherwise they will degrade and likely develop assorted cracks, stain and other defects. Get yourself information from the National Forest Service (available on line), Gene's book called the WOOD DOCTOR and Bruce Hoadly's book UNDERSTANDING WOOD. They have information on small drying systems that you probably should look into. Building a solar dry kiln & buying a moisture meter (one that costs at least $200) is a good next step. The books have information on each of those. Using this information will allow you to maximize the value of your little mill, logs and your labor. Have fun, be safe.
Yep. Pretty much what I was going to say - although the increase in quarter sawn is minimal with logs under about 16" diameter. The big advantage is that it give you two or more maximum wdith qtr sawn boards.
I love red oak, and I love quarter-sawed oak. We recently had our kitchen remodeled in quarter-sawn white oak to match our new quarter-sawn table, and I smile every time I walk into that room. Good video, sir.
Cider Press Just think if Hillary Clinton was in charge of the Covid 19 pandemic is the US. The death tolls would be at millions. POTUS has done a great job and thank GOD we had the good sense to elect him and we are going to elect him again so you are going to get blessed for another 4 years.
Once you get the quartersawing process down, you will be handling smaller cants, but rolling the cant for each cut. The benefit will be that every board will look like those wonderful boards you got near the log center. You will also have many different widths as each cut on each cant will yield diminishing widths by the board thickness (plus the kerf). Nice tree you got there. You can do a lot with that saw.
As much as I like quarter sawn material I'll just as soon take any of the rift on either side of it as well. Both are wonderful for furniture not only because of the look but also for long term stability. I do agree with many of the comments below however that you might want to revise your layout and cutting procedure in the future. You still got some great stuff. Kudos.
Been watching you for a while now and I have learned a lot about milling I want to now get a small mill and start milling my own lumber for my wood projects that I do. Keep up the cool videos.
Love the look of quarter sawn lumber. The Amish make a lot of furniture with this. The cost is higher obviously, but it's worth it! Great job on your video! Enjoyed watching it! I would agree with another post to take two boards, one on each side of the center line, full width. Would make a great top for a piece of furniture.
I have a good friend who cut a few nice oak trees off his dad's farm many years ago. After a few years, we loaded them on a truck and took them to a mill owned by his cousin. Years later, he met a girl and got married and they built a log home. Did the interior and kitchen with the red oak boards from the farm. Very beautiful!
As a boy my family had 9" beagles. At one time we had over 40. We had 3 litters of 7 each within 24 hours. It was awesome. They are great pets with cute personalities. Be well.
It's tough to get much yield from any log -- even with a bigger mill. I have a LT-40 Super Hydraulic and when I want some Q-sawn I find a huge oak log and split it down the middle with a chainsaw. Then I start whacking away and soon enough I'm into the cream. I did my kitchen floor with Q-sawn red oak. Looks great. I'm surprised that your butt log had so many knots in it. Still looks great. And to those who say that it isn't quarter-sawn -- the rules established by the NHLA pretty much say that if it looks quarter-sawn then it *is* quarter-sawn. Great vid. Thanks for posting.
localcrew I built my entire hour with quarter saw. Never touched it with a chain saw. Used my wood miser entirely. Chain saws waste too much wood for my taste. Built my kiln and dried the lumber on site.
We never got much yield on our big mill. We sawed in half and run out the far end. Load the halved logs back in. And saw away. 45 degree end grain or better in the boards. We laid it out after all was kiln dried as I graded it. Mostly if not set up for it The premium is not worth the yield. But you are right, if it looks quarter sawed then call it.
An effort well spent. Can you imagine, at one time in this country you could go to the millyard and buy as much of that stuff as you you wanted, absolutely clear and as wide as you needed it to be. Worked with an old carpenter who talked about making a kitchen table for his mom. Told me he went to the millyard to get a 36", clear white pine board for the top. I thought he was talking about the glued-up width - I was stunned when I realized he was talking about ONE board.
Ever since I first learned about quarter sawn lumber it sticks out like a sore thumb. You can't help but notice it. The first I remember seeing was in antique furniture. It was usually referred to as Tiger Oak in the trade. The rays in that stuff gets even more beautiful as it ages. I've also noticed in oak flooring which is flat sawn, you naturally get a percentage of quarter sawn scattered through the floor. I know you got it all figured out by now, but I really enjoyed watching your first shot at it. Thank you for sharing your fun.
@@dickmeisterling3924 Not if it's done right. He admitted he was new at this and had some learning to do. Check out this illustration. www.advantagelumber.com/sawn-lumber/quarter-sawn.html
Never seen a miller put the wedge in the cut on top and then cut the log at the breakpoint on the bottom. I always used the wedge to keep the log from pinching the saw blade, not opening the first cut to offer breathing room for the log. Lol! Just flat sawed the log, beautiful grain, amazing!
Not sure if you knew it or not but when your bloodhound eats red oak sawdust, it stunts their growth so badly, they end up looking like a beagle puppy.
I have never fully understood what quarter sawing wood truly was until I watched your video. Now I know how to do it and what to look for when buying it. Thanks so much for the education. Love your videos. Well done.
Nice job..like your little helper!
Cutest helper ever! Lovely wood grain patterns
Every square inch of that board is a piece of art. Gorgeous.
The pup is awesome. Nice work.
After watching several of this kind of videos, you're the first one I've seen who spread a tarp down to catch the sawdust. Easy clean up.
About 25 years ago I made a set of 3 conga's (drums) of quarter sawn red oak.
For steambending, it 's the best wood I ever worked with.
Nice to see you quarter sawing this beautiful material.
Not long at all when you enjoy what you’re doing. I loved watching this. Beautiful lumber. I wished I had gotten interested in this when I was younger. Thanks for posting the video. Keep them coming.
My dad and I had a Sanborn mini max portable mill when I was a kid. He was a master at cutting quarter saw boards and I didn’t even know it till I watched this video. Awesome
Cool! Appreciate you watching!
BEST! HELPER! EVER!
I love your dog.
What a cute puppy just wants to help to clean the board.
For all the sarcastic responses , you need to give the man a break , he already admitted it was his first time regardless they turned out awesome.
*shrug* Right is right and wrong is wrong. That log was flat sawn, and wasted getting wider boards by sawing it down the middle first.
You can get a lot more quarter sawn boards. The process involves turning your cant a quarter turn back and forth. It is time consuming and gives you random width boards but will give you a lot more desirable lumber. This is the reason you see random width flooring in a lot of older homes that used materials from the home place to build.
Plus if you have the right trees this is the [figured] wood that guitar/fiddle etc makers find so desireable. I've seen electric guitar sized maple cuts go for $300
Almost any cabinet making book going to show how to quarter saw a log. Do some reading get more of what you want.
now THIS is the first thing posted that has made sense to me...
Agree 100%. Needs to be flipped for quarter sawn maximum yield. Widths will vary significantly, but the grain will be more consistent. This was just a "modified" flat sawn method, which = Flat + Riff + Quarter.
@@robertphillips760 Yep. It wasn't quarter sawn, just flat sawn. The initial cut down the center simply halved the possible board widths.
Glad to see you use the wedge, most have no clue !
My wife says I can't get one. You do awesome work. Thank you for sharing.
Great job... Great Video Love your four legged helper... I was laughing out loud at him (or her) trying to catch the broom. Keep em coming.
I couldn't help but notice what a fine guitar body that would make. I'm impressed.
Man I loved watching this video thanks for taking the time to share. I love wood grains
This is incredible!! I could watch these videos all the time 😅
You (and I) are nuts!
Great Job!!!! Now I can appreciate the beautiful grain I covet. I'm glad you used Red Oak
I install wood flooring for a living, over twenty years now. You got it brother, great job. Nice looking material. Your doing it right.
Nothing better than quarter sawn.
👍👍
That's a beautiful grain, perfect for my vintage stereo cabinet!
As a cabinet maker, I can truly appreciate this video. I always try to find the quartersawn lumber mixed in with the flat sawn lumber when I buy lumber.
me too if your willing to rip and glue up you can cup up with some good lumber off the shelf
Loving the possibilities for many bookmatched quartersawn boards. Thank you for the great demonstration!
ABSOLUTELY Beautiful!!
That puppy is adorable. Great video.
Amazing - I can see clearly now thru my very old eyes I have to go find someone in my family tree to leave my equipment with someone as amazed by what nature has to offer. You make to best use of what you have and seem so grateful for all your discoveries that you are willing to share your love for it all.
That's right not every one is in to that it dont have to be a family member as long as they. Think the same as you
L.p. 0
El Dorado Woodcraft hobbies I had to laugh at this only because my 7 yr old grandson said the other day, “Gramma, even though I will hopefully be a grown man when you die, can I have all your tools?” Eek! Never be worth more dead than alive? It’s actually sweet. He has a love for what can be made and grain patterns already so it sees a logical choice. He may have to fight his dad for my mill though...
Get that squared away so that your stuff doesn't get sold to buy swimming pools and jet skiis
Ausome red oak video & beat wood-mixer equipment, too! My dad was a well known carpenter, maker of neat cherished furniture. He got much of his quality lumber from the far off rain forest of Honduras, etc. for an expensive cost, but he dearly valued his work, so only tried to use the very best! His name was Angus Edward Cowle!
I like watching OTW , that guy knows what he is doing, and you can learn a lot from watching his videos, good luck and have fun!
Just a friendly observation, you should look into using a Humboldt undercut (perhaps technically called a modified Humboldt) on your felling cut. This way you maximize your board footage from the base. Love the little guy too, he's really enjoying the sawdust.
Beautifully done, Beautiful grain.
Nicely done - I worked as a incoming inspector and product matcher at local well known cabinetry company - when I trained people on the different type /grades of wood I would tell them quarter sawn looks like stretch marks on your body - I matched thousands of board feet of red and white oak - it's fun to learn new things
That little dog is too cute
Great job. I love your little helper.
Beobout6 She’s a reliable little partner for sure.
Thanks for this great video! I love that you get excited about seeing the beauty in the wood. As do I. A beautiful day, out in the forest, chainsaw in my hand-perfection!
That would make a gorgeous floor...Nice work...
Great video. Like you said It’s like opening a Christmas present. I love milling rough lumber. I shared your enthusiasm with each cut. This is a great learning tool. I’ll look for more of your videos; the next best thing
to being there. Thanks, Sawdust Bob.
It's like Christmas with every board. Thanks for stopping by!
That is beautiful wood. I just love the 1/4 sawn oak when building furniture.
GREAT JOB !!! i LOVE " quartersawed oak "
Love quarter sawn lumber, looks beautiful!
Extremely satisfying to watch... Of course, if you are a woodworm !
That was very interesting. I learned so I like it. Thanks for doing the video!
Great first time cut. My mind was going crazy imagining a project with book matched panels.
Love that little dog
She's a good mill buddy.
She looks like a good rabbit dog. Would have like to seen her if a rabbit would have ran out from under that mill😄
She was getting some fiber in her diet.
My friend thank you so much for your videos....I've watched a few. Just like your approach to things, your attitude and the content is just cool to see old things kept new. Keep cuttin dude
I see your little dog likes the boards. My dog got on some boards that I was staining for my ceiling. I still put them up and laugh every time I see the paw prints.
Wow! Beautiful wood! And the dog is lovely!
You can get 2 wide qtr sawn boards by cutting the log down the middle and taking one off each half. Then you can get 4 pc by cutting the halves down the middle getting two pc. from each. Next you have to put each quarter on the saw such that you make a cut to the center of the log and then get two more boards off each quarter log, 8 pc. That gives you 14 boards of as much width as you can get and still be quartered. After this what you are likely to get are boards displaying rift, still nice but they won't be true quartered & they will be narrow. Red oak doesn't usually display as much nice fleck as white oak. You need to be very careful and align the saw cuts with the pith of the log on both ends. Logs should be end coated as soon as they hit the ground and then be sawn as soon as possible. Otherwise they will degrade and likely develop assorted cracks, stain and other defects. Get yourself information from the National Forest Service (available on line), Gene's book called the WOOD DOCTOR and Bruce Hoadly's book UNDERSTANDING WOOD. They have information on small drying systems that you probably should look into. Building a solar dry kiln & buying a moisture meter (one that costs at least $200) is a good next step. The books have information on each of those. Using this information will allow you to maximize the value of your little mill, logs and your labor.
Have fun, be safe.
Yep. Pretty much what I was going to say - although the increase in quarter sawn is minimal with logs under about 16" diameter. The big advantage is that it give you two or more maximum wdith qtr sawn boards.
Nice setup with the farm tractor! Solid way to move logs on the cheap. Beautiful wood you got there too. Nice work.
Bus Huxley Thanks for stopping by!
That was some beautiful grain.
I love red oak, and I love quarter-sawed oak. We recently had our kitchen remodeled in quarter-sawn white oak to match our new quarter-sawn table, and I smile every time I walk into that room. Good video, sir.
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You’ve come a long way since this video. Congratulations.
Mathew Cremona has a great explanation and Out of the Woods has a great video of quarter sawing , you did turn out some nice looking flooring
I sure wish I had a friend like you to mill me some wood to redo my carpeted floors, I HATE CARPET !!! You've come a long ways in 2 years !!!
Beautiful wood and nice job cutting it. God gave us the knowledge and willpower to turn something great into something beautiful.
And God gave us the knowledge and the willpower to elect a credibly accused sexual predator and confidence trickster as POTUS! Aint God great?
Cider Press Just think if Hillary Clinton was in charge of the Covid 19 pandemic is the US. The death tolls would be at millions. POTUS has done a great job and thank GOD we had the good sense to elect him and we are going to elect him again so you are going to get blessed for another 4 years.
Once you get the quartersawing process down, you will be handling smaller cants, but rolling the cant for each cut. The benefit will be that every board will look like those wonderful boards you got near the log center. You will also have many different widths as each cut on each cant will yield diminishing widths by the board thickness (plus the kerf). Nice tree you got there. You can do a lot with that saw.
As much as I like quarter sawn material I'll just as soon take any of the rift on either side of it as well. Both are wonderful for furniture not only because of the look but also for long term stability. I do agree with many of the comments below however that you might want to revise your layout and cutting procedure in the future. You still got some great stuff. Kudos.
I like your process!
Very fun video. Beautiful wood. Thanks a million!
Very good work. Cute dog too !!
The boss is there, cute lil dog and beautiful wood.
That will be some very strong lumber. I was a sawyer for 8 years;it takes a large diameter saw log to get much 1/4 cut boards. Great video. 👍
Boy, that sure is a great tractor skidder setup you have!
Great job , bro ! Loved every minute of this soothing and pleasant video . That grain was awesome !
Tone Driver SS Thanks! Appreciate you watching!
You done a great job!! 1st time watching, I will be back!!
that's the prize right there, indeed !! great video thanks
that was good....! planning pays off.
Rock on
Beautiful cuts. Everything looks good.
Been watching you for a while now and I have learned a lot about milling I want to now get a small mill and start milling my own lumber for my wood projects that I do. Keep up the cool videos.
You'll have a blast!
Not only beautiful but the smell of red oak is incredible!
You did a good job. Beautiful vertical grain!
nice commentary keeping me interested while listening and watching. tq.
Gorgeous planks.... Now I understand. Thanks for making this video......
Great video! And some good looking pieces of wood
Dog watching over you like a boss !🐕👍😁
Love the look of quarter sawn lumber. The Amish make a lot of furniture with this. The cost is higher obviously, but it's worth it! Great job on your video! Enjoyed watching it! I would agree with another post to take two boards, one on each side of the center line, full width. Would make a great top for a piece of furniture.
Fantastic run of the mill!
I have a good friend who cut a few nice oak trees off his dad's farm many years ago. After a few years, we loaded them on a truck and took them to a mill owned by his cousin. Years later, he met a girl and got married and they built a log home. Did the interior and kitchen with the red oak boards from the farm. Very beautiful!
James Cooper Great story! Appreciate you watching!
As a boy my family had 9" beagles. At one time we had over 40. We had 3 litters of 7 each within 24 hours. It was awesome. They are great pets with cute personalities. Be well.
I saved this video in my laptop to show my son I titled it GREG IF YOU WERE A DOOG.Just like that puppy he was there all the time watching.
Thanks for the video re: 1/4 sawn red oak...Always wondered about process - now I know thanks again !
Thanks for watching!
LOL at the hound dog supervising.
Thanks for the video. I like your puppy. :)
She's a good little mill buddy. Thanks for watching!
That tree was perfect!
Nice vid, thanks a lot. I have learned a lot !
Beautiful! I have the opportunity to get 15 acres in northern Michigan. Can't wait to start milling! Thanks for the inspiration!
im moving to TN this fall from CA and this choice of goals being able to mill my own lumber seems very enjoyable thank you for the video M
Lucky you , if I was a few years younger , I would be right with you . I have watched California become kommiefornia , & it has made me sick !
Beautiful!
It's tough to get much yield from any log -- even with a bigger mill. I have a LT-40 Super Hydraulic and when I want some Q-sawn I find a huge oak log and split it down the middle with a chainsaw. Then I start whacking away and soon enough I'm into the cream. I did my kitchen floor with Q-sawn red oak. Looks great. I'm surprised that your butt log had so many knots in it. Still looks great. And to those who say that it isn't quarter-sawn -- the rules established by the NHLA pretty much say that if it looks quarter-sawn then it *is* quarter-sawn.
Great vid. Thanks for posting.
localcrew Thanks! Appreciate you watching.
localcrew I built my entire hour with quarter saw. Never touched it with a chain saw. Used my wood miser entirely. Chain saws waste too much wood for my taste.
Built my kiln and dried the lumber on site.
We never got much yield on our big mill. We sawed in half and run out the far end. Load the halved logs back in. And saw away. 45 degree end grain or better in the boards. We laid it out after all was kiln dried as I graded it. Mostly if not set up for it The premium is not worth the yield. But you are right, if it looks quarter sawed then call it.
Money shot at 26:45
That is beautiful wood...we have a bunch of black walnut that we need to slab. I can’t wait to see the grain in that.
Great video. I'm inspired.
Great camera work! Thanks!
An effort well spent. Can you imagine, at one time in this country you could go to the millyard and buy as much of that stuff as you you wanted, absolutely clear and as wide as you needed it to be. Worked with an old carpenter who talked about making a kitchen table for his mom. Told me he went to the millyard to get a 36", clear white pine board for the top. I thought he was talking about the glued-up width - I was stunned when I realized he was talking about ONE board.
Ricopolico It’s amazing. Thanks for watching!
Beautiful looking lumber, well done.
Ever since I first learned about quarter sawn lumber it sticks out like a sore thumb. You can't help but notice it. The first I remember seeing was in antique furniture. It was usually referred to as Tiger Oak in the trade. The rays in that stuff gets even more beautiful as it ages. I've also noticed in oak flooring which is flat sawn, you naturally get a percentage of quarter sawn scattered through the floor. I know you got it all figured out by now, but I really enjoyed watching your first shot at it. Thank you for sharing your fun.
Seems to me (a novice) that the real problem with quarter sawn is waste - is that right?
@@dickmeisterling3924 Not if it's done right. He admitted he was new at this and had some learning to do. Check out this illustration. www.advantagelumber.com/sawn-lumber/quarter-sawn.html
Thankyou, this was interesting, we only have White Oak (Northern Europe Oak) in the UK. . . . Chris . . . Norwich . . . England
Absolutely gorgeous..
Great video Keep up the good work! Lumber looks great also!
Jack Stanley Thanks as always!
Never seen a miller put the wedge in the cut on top and then cut the log at the breakpoint on the bottom. I always used the wedge to keep the log from pinching the saw blade, not opening the first cut to offer breathing room for the log. Lol! Just flat sawed the log, beautiful grain, amazing!
didn't understand that either.
Not sure if you knew it or not but when your bloodhound eats red oak sawdust, it stunts their growth so badly, they end up looking like a beagle puppy.
Lol. Sure did. Puppy is definitely a beagle