Of course!! Like many of the folks here watching this video and commenting, I'm still on the fence. Wish toro would have released their etimemaster already. I'm still waiting for my lawn to get a little taller to do another cut with the bag.
Im waiting for the greenworks 30” supposedly any day now should be in dealers this week. I would have gone for the toro also but who knows when that’s coming out.
Thanks for doing this video. I wasn't aware of this mower and currently own a Toro Time Master, which has been a repair nightmare. I'd but this without hesitation if it weren't for the typical problem with these types of machines, which is battery cost. At $800.00 for a replacement, I'd have to have a 10 year guarantee on battery life to feel comfortable.
Gunny, thanks for sharing your personal experience with the timemaster. The 80V battery currently has a 3yr warranty and extends to 5yr once you register it. I have to agree that the battery cost is pretty steep. $800 is the price of a new mower or a bunch of gas.
Thanks for the review. I got almost an acre and have used the 40v Ryobi for the last 3 years. I love the cut quality, and the quiet. (I can mow a 7am and nobody notices). But it takes almost 4 batteries. This 30 could be my perfect solution.
The Home Depot list price for the Ryobi 80V battery is $899.00 and it's Ryobi 80V charger is $734.02 for a total $1,633.02. $2,000 - $1,633.02 = $366.98 would be left to cover the actual lawnmower. It's almost aways much cheaper to buy things in its fully equipped package. If something were to happen where nether the charger or the battery were working well and they are out of warranty then like other battery powered tools it typically makes more sense to simply replace the whole system with a new battery powered mower. This is a good showing that there is a gasoline comparable battery powered self propelled walk behind lawnmower available at about $2,000. A 15,000 sq. ft. lawn is about the normal limit for walk behind lawnmower so it's a good test for battery range. I'd like to have heard how the lawn cutting times compared with the gasoline lawnmower. You state its a bit harder to maneuver than the smaller gasoline mower, but did you need to do more string trimmer cutting because of that? This is actually a mini landscape mower at 30" cut so it should be a fair bit faster than the 21" standard walk behind mower. The thin section plastic around the cutting plenum doesn't look nearly as tough as on a Honda Harmony. The plastic doesn't look like long lasting Rubbermate like plastic. It looks like toy plastic that will shrink and become brittle with age and exposure.
Thank you for breaking down the cost of the battery, charger, and mower. This same cost comparison could also be done with the new and upcoming Toro. The current timemaster cost around 1500 - 1800, depending on the model and the upcoming battery version is projected to be around 2400. The Toro holds three batteries (60V) at different amp sizes. I couldn't find the price of the 10amp, but found a price of the 6amp at 245 each. Even at the 6amp price, that would be 750 for three and even more for the 10amp. However, the Toro batteries can be used on more products outside their mower line. Hoping (fingers crossed) that Ryobi continues to develop products that can take advantage of their new 80V 10 amp (suitcase style) battery. When I was referring to the mower being harder to maneuver, I feel my wife and I would need more behind the handle time to get used to the size/weight difference. My lawn isn't the typical straight forward front yard and backyard, so its hard to do an exact time comparison. We just noticed that it took less time (passes back and forth) to complete the backyard. I know its not a great answer, but it was noticeable between my wife and I. When the rain stops, we plan on doing a video on how well it bags. As for the plastic, it is actually more rigid than what it appears across my video. Don't judge, but I even took some time and examined the wheels. The bearings are currently well lubricated and spins freely. It also doesn't have a hollow sound when knocking on it with a solid object. It actually appears to have some weight to them, since they need to support the 117lbs mower. The next thing I could do is weigh each wheel, but I'm afraid of breaking the center cap. I took some time to look at the cutting deck and the shape isn't typical hub, but with some different angles to provide support. There is also a metal brace surrounding the outside edges. I assume that is for protection and structural reinforcement. I was trying to watch some other Ryobi 40V mowers and they seem to have the metal brace.
I've been waiting for this mower. I can't afford it and have no use for it other than a novelty, but totally dig watching it come out. I ran 30" Timemasters and love the fast 30" walk behind concept. I believe the fast 30" is as big a development as the stick edger and the backpack.
My rant to Ryobi who too their credit reached out to me. I really appreciate that your company is taking the time to reach out to customers. It says a lot about your company, and I genuinely appreciate it. Unfortunately I feel as though I have become a beta tester for your new product. A product that dug up my lawn and weighs over 100 pounds, so it’s a pain to get back to the store. I wanted to love this lawnmower. I have a hybrid vehicle and solar panels, and I am all for being green. I am also all for not changing carburetors which seems to be a big problem with gas engines. Finally, I am aware that small electric motors pack a big punch for getting up hills and turning blades. It will certainly outperform its gas competition in this area. I was really impressed with battery and charger, wow it charges fast. The problem is, it doesn’t mow the lawn properly, and it cost $2K. It cuts the grass far worse than my 2005ish under $200 lawn mower. It doesn’t just miss spots, it misses entire patches. It doesn’t cut the grass because the blades slow down. I have no way to control the blade speed. I understand that is to extend the battery life so it will mow 1 acre. I don’t have 1 acre and would prefer the blades run at full speed all of the time. Its impossible that your engineers were unaware of this problem. If they were not, you should get new engineers. A system that spins up when it detects grass, and has a several second spin up time is never going to work for people with real crappy lawns like mine. I am sure it works great in the rough at Augusta (where the Masters is played if your not a golfer), but it doesn’t work on my crappy inconsistent grass. You sold me a problem. Its going back to the store. I considered trying to wire in a switch so I could turn the blades up, but thankfully my wife convinced me that is a crazy idea. I will be sticking with gas. I hope you fix the problem, because I so wanted to love this mower. Please don’t use customers at beta testers without them being aware of it. It really is a huge inconvenience. I appreciate your time listening to my ranting Alex. Please send this to your engineers who need to hear how poorly they are doing. I know they can do better. Ryobi has some fantastic products.
Adam, I really appreciate you sharing your experiences with this group. My grass is a tall fescue and have notice any patches. What I see as an issue is the overall length (front to back). I'm not too sure what they didn't make the blades side by side like the Toro timemaster or greenworks 25". Since Ryobi decided to place the blades in an angle it makes the front longer to accommodate the angle cutting deck. I find myself forgetting how long the front is and lift to trun right or left. What that means I miss a patch of grass. It would have been nice to have caster wheels. Like you said the mower weighs 117lbs without the battery and more with it...I also can't forget about bagging and the weight of the grass clippings. With all that weight, lifting the front to turn digs the rear tires on the ground. This would matter if the ground is hard, but unfortunately mine is not so it digs into the soil. Another area is the width of the handle. The Toro timemaster angles in, so the width of the handle isn't as wide. The 30" Ryobi is a straight bar, so the width is huge making left and right turns clumsy. Lastly is the styling. I feel that Ryobi missed the mark Their 80V ride on lines has more balck coloring separating them from the previous line. They could have followed that design template instead of the color scheme of their 16" mowers. Don't get me started on their joystick ride on mowers...lol
I took the mower back and got a Toro Timemaster 30. It's better in every way. It even cuts the grass! It has more power, the blades spin at full speed all the time and the perfect pace system is easier to use and instantly responds. It turns easier and doesn't dig up the lawn despite being 30ish lbs heavier. I wish I had gotten the Toro mower first and not bothered with the Ryobi.
Great review bro. I was actually really looking forward to this this mower and seeing how it works. I currently have the toro timemaster and a 21 in Ryobi mower. But man that 2k price tag I could only imagine with that new electric time master is going to cost probably minimum 2500
Thank you for the positive comment. Same here, I'm looking forward on how this mower does this season. So far, it's looking good. Is there any cutting difference between your toro and RYOBI?
@@dubaudiproject861 honestly, the toro has much more power to get through the tough stuff but I prefer the way the Ryobi cuts and it's so much lighter. I feel beat up after mowing with the timemaster 😂
Do you plan on taking it back?? LOL I love how you have the protective wrap on and the tags hanging from it while your wife is cutting the lawn lol In all seriousness though, nice video!! Thanks and I love Ryobi products!!!
This is the most expensive lawn equipment that I have purchased in my 40+ years on this earth...lol I actually put it back in the box the other day, but took it out again. I want to do another cut before I pin down my final decision. It's been raining in my area, so I'm playing the waiting game. Thank you for the feedback!
You mentioned that the blade speed is adjustable? Is the "Throttle" you mention in the description used for self propulsion speed, or does it change the blade speed? I've been using a Kobalt 80v mower for the last six years now, and I really like it except for one thing... It does have a fast blade speed and a slow blade speed, and it defaults to the slow blade speed unless it detects that the blade is slowing down, then it kicks into fast blade speed. It is completely automatic, and the blade speed is not able to be changed by the user. This really sucks in areas like mine (scorching hot desert) where the grass varieties we have to plant are stiff and broad leaf. The low blade speed doesn't stand the blades of grass up well enough, nor does it provide enough vacuum to remove lawn detritus thoroughly enough. If they had just given the user the ability to chose to run it in high speed all the time it would've been the perfect mower. If the Ryobi (and possibly the coming eTimemaster) does in fact have user adjustable blade speed, it'll be a "shut up and take my money" situation.
The throttle is solely for forward motion (walking speed). Unfortunately the blade speed is exactly how you are describing yours. The blade only increases when it senses a larger load ..aka thicker grass. My grass wasn't too long when I cut it, but I did hear the blades increase in speed in thicker areas.
@@dubaudiproject861 I appreciate the information, thank you. That takes the Ryobi off of the list. Toro does already have an adjustable blade speed electric mower, but I'm waiting to see what the eTimemaster has in store before making a final decision. Thanks again!
I'd definitely stay away from this one. Used mine all summer and it's going to be one and done for me. First battery was a dog and only got thru my 1/2 acre lawn a couple times on a single charge. Ryobi did replace it so kudos to them for that but even with a good battery, the cut quality is just not comparable to any of my previous mowers.
It seems like the entire underside (not including the cutting area, of course) should be covered with a plastic cover (like an electric car). That would prevent wet grass from sticking into all of that honeycomb area and, more importantly, it would protect that motor/transmission component that drives the rear wheels. I don't think it would have cost much for Ryobi to include a cover.
My yard is pretty flat with the exception of the ditch in my front yard. For that I currently use a weed wacker, but plan on purchasing a 13" RYOBI mower.
Thank you for the review! After more time, do you find the mower worth the price? I can get a 10% military discount on it so that makes it even better. I have one of their 21" 40v mowers which I love, and am trying to decide if it's worth the cost to go up to 30" to make my mowing faster.
If you take advantage of the military discount and the 2 tool kit, then it would definitely be worth considering. You'll get the deal from the kit and military. I like the cut width of the 30". Since using it, I would only go down to a 25" greenworks. The crosscut blades is not a gimic and works as advertised.
Thanks for the review. How fast is the self propel speed? I had ryobi's 21" mower that looked similar in design to this and at max speed it was too slow. I ended up getting rid of it because it took forever to mow the yard. I got a greenworks 25" and it seemed to go what felt like double the speed of the ryobi, but didn't cut as nice.
It's a brisk walk. Not sure how to translate it, since it maybe subjective. When my wife and used the mower we left the speed limiter in the middle setting.
i love the greenworks 25 incher, its so light to, the ryobi is almost 120 lbs, and quadruple the price. i just wish the GW was ipx5 so i could hose it off easier
@@mainsource8030 I love/hate the Greenworks 25." It's faster in perfect conditions, but double cutting almost every time in the spring doesn't save any time.
As a small business owner, I found out that you can deduct the cost of a lawn mower off your taxes. With so many people having a home business, this can for sure help! Also, when you look at many lawn care production companies now offering EV equipment for blowers, edging, etc., the same battery can be used. I really like the idea of the easy folding so it takes up less space in your garage. I will use it for mostly leaves as Alabama is 85% tree cover from out mountain lakes regions to the Gulf Shore beaches, going from most of the state all sub-tropical long seasons, but still more trees than most states. I live on a bluff over 1,200 feet straight down to the valley with heavy canopy hard woods and lots of leaves in late winter. I do have a lawn care company take care of the grass, but they stop after the so-called last leaf fall period, but the winds and millions of trees have their own period of releasing their respective leaves, so I am tired of raking leaves with the wife and this is a great fix. I will keep my summer lawn care company, as a small business operating all over the state, I do not want to go back to that hot summer period, just the winters with leaves for us! After a year or so, it will be time for a driving EV, as the repair for gas is past its prime, gas stinks, oil, air filters, plugs, etc. as all are reflected in the huge numbers of people buying now mostly EV's across America, at least with lawn mowers, NOT SO, with cars, but we all understand that and that is yet another video. I will keep my new Acura MDX until we get 500,000 charging level 2 charging stations and next level batteries that get you at least 500 miles per charge. When you travel a state of 52,000 square miles more than all the New England states via business you can not spend all your time staying motels so you can charge a SUV. Time is money!
Got mine a couple weeks ago. I like it so far, but like you said, there is a simple learning curve. The blade RPM going up and down on its own is a little confusing to me because when it revs up, it doesn't seem to match the grass height. Also, my bagger bag and side chute were missing from my box and, going on two weeks, I still haven't received them. I kinda wish that I just returned it for another one vs. dealing with a trouble ticket. Mine also did not have the skid plate. I was told that the plate was discontinued from the unit but shows in the manual.
Sorry to hear about your issues. They are right, the plate was removed from the production model. I had a trouble ticket open. How do you like the cut so far?
@@dubaudiproject861 Sorry for that long delay. I like the cut and everything so far. I am a bit concerned about long term reliability. I know it has a long warranty but some of the "plastic" type noises that it makes while maneuvering it around concern me a little. I spoke with Ryobi again, the service girl was fantastic on the phone, but I still have not received the missing parts. I sent a follow up email after about 2 weeks and have not heard back. I now wish that I just returned the whole thing for a new unit. I love the larger cut swath; I can mow my yard much faster. The battery charged very quickly. one mowing usually takes it down to about 65% and it recharges to 100% very fast. I like the way it can be stored upright too. I am going to give it until next week to see if I receive my parts before I start to ramp things up a bit.
Does this mower have separate electric motors for each blade set? Ryobi’s website isn’t clear about this. The Timemaster and Greenworks 25” both have timed, side by side blades which requires a belt. Not sure if this one has a belt under the cover. Seems like this wouldn’t have a belt since there is no need for timing with the staggered deck.
Did you ever figure out if you need that metal plate under the deck? I just received my mower and it didn't have a metal plate either. Not sure if it is necessary or not.
I asked Ryobi and another youtuber. Ryobu removed the skidplate on the production models. Below is a link to the answer. ua-cam.com/users/shortsOrChXPTGw5Q?feature=share
@@dubaudiproject861 awesome! Thanks so much for the quick and helpful response. Sounds good! How do you like the mower overall? Do you plan to keep it? I'm excited to try mine out this week. Should be a nice upgrade from my old craftsman electric mower in terms of power and also allow me to mow my 13,000 sq ft lawn more quickly. I also used to bag my clippings since my mower never mulched finely enough, but I'm hopeful this Ryobi will mulch better.
The cut is 100% better than my gas-powered mower. It also has more power. We are satisfied with the cut as it is even and don't leave a mess when mulching or bagging. Battery is fast charging and lasts for a while. My wife and I just came back from lowes and Home Depot to check out the new ride on mowers. We are still leaning towards the walk behind like the ones we have for the easy bagging and storage. The things that keep me up at night are the dimensions and turning capabilities. I was in the garage, and it looks like Ryobi took their 40V line and stretched it out proportionately. As it was made for a large human. I guess that translates into turning left or right. If you have ever seen the Toro Timemaster, the front wheels are closer together, and the rear wheels are not too far apart. I wish I had a Timemaster to compare it side bybside. This may not be an issue to you or others, but it's a mental wall that I can't seem to climb over.
@@dubaudiproject861 thanks for the update! Glad to hear the cut and power is excellent! I hope that the battery is able to last during my entire cut and that the longevity of the battery lasts for many years without much degradation. My Craftsman electric mower battery completely died after 4 years. Glad to see this mower has a 5-year warranty. I was debating the ride on mowers as well but like you said, I appreciate the portability and foldability of this mower so I can easily store it and maneuver it around the yard more easily as well. I also enjoy mowing and getting some cardio in. I'm interested to see how the first cut goes and how the turning works out for me. We'll see!
I've only been able to get one cut in since buying it this past Tuesday. So far with my one cut I don't see any clumping. I'll try to do a follow-up video using the bag.
It would nice to hear your comparison with the Toro vs RYOBI. To be honest if the Toro eTimemaster was out I would have a hard time deciding. However, in my opinion RYOBI's 80V battery tech is currently edging other brands. Plus the dual blades actually provide a great cut. Well see how ot does when my grass is a little longer.
Yes, the only way to receive it free in the store or online is if your store you are ordering from has the mower and blower/trimmer in stocks. The in store associate has to scan both items, then it will activate the deal. Same online, you have to add both mower and trim/blower kit to your cart then the deal will appear. It was an absolute nightmare to figure this out and some back and forth with the associate. At the end my local home depot figured it out.
@@dubaudiproject861 yah, that free offer made the $2k price a little more….”reasonable”. Been waiting on reviews for it. Like to see the bagging and side discharge at work. This thing is suppose to compete with the toro timemaster, and that thing is a beast
@@jfraz6246 You are right, the new e-Timemaster should be a beast. By the way, I made a quick video on how to take advantage of the current deL. ua-cam.com/video/11AjYdEDxmo/v-deo.html
@@dubaudiproject861 we’ll see how the e-timemaster goes. So far seems like they’re electric stuff is about on par with everyone else. I like the gas timemaster, that thing is a beast
have you done any other cuts with it? how's it working? i actually ordered one, still deciding if i am going to use it or return it haha....expensive but the allure of twice the deck of my 16" electric mower was too great! thanks for the video.
I've done a second cut the other day when the grass was damp around 6 to 7 inches tall. I took some clips of it and will post early next week. I can tell you that it handled the damp grass well with a very few stragglers. This was mostly from the tires bending the grass over before it had a chance to get cut. I assume this issue would be present in any mower with larger wheels. The bag never clogged and grass never backed out like my Gass mower.
On the RYOBI website the mower weighs 117lbs. Not sure of that is with or without the battery. I just weighed the battery with my scale and showed 8lbs. That is doing it three times. I'm guessing the 117bs is without. So 125lbs total
Even though it's 30 inches. $2000 seems absolutely ridiculous for a mostly plastic mower. You can get the best of the best gas mower for half the price. Even the Toro timemaster is $1600 and that's 30 inches.
@@dubaudiproject861 I have an Ego Select Cut XP, bought it used 2 years ago. I also have a Craftsman 42 inch riding gas mower. I WANT to go all battery but the cost of the new batteries has me patching up my old Craftsman, it’s 17 years old and still works. The Ego just isn’t wide enough, I use it for smaller spaces and it never hurts to have a backup. I’m waiting for Ego to make a 30 inch as I have 6 Ego batteries already. But hopefully these new 80 volts last. My oldest Ego batteries I bought in 2017, they still work but have lost about 80% of their original run time while in a leaf blower.
If you’re going to spend over 2k for a dang mower, get a Toro Turfmaster with a Kohler command pro engine. Don’t even bother with battery or s Timemaster. You’re spending that much just buy the commercial version with best engine and skip all these issues.
Two thousand for plastic, a few electric motors, battery and charger. This just looks like clear price gouging no matter how good the cut. I'll pass...
I was going to just comment, "I hope they offer a blackout version because that green color is hideous". But forget it, the bottom is all honeycomb plastic. Lots of places for grass to get stuck. This is a toy, It might as well look like one. Don't get me wrong, Honda HRX has an awesome plastic deck. This is not that. This is not for me. That price is hilarious! I hope you were able to return it.
I also wonder how greenworks can offer their 25 (lower price) and 30 commercial (similar price). Toro emaster should be around $2.4K. Yet here I am with the RYOBI stored away in my garage. 😀
Price tag is way too high I would rather buy a small zero turn lawn mower and be sitting down when I mow my grass I do like the mower it's just way too expensive
When they're getting this big, I'd rather have a remote control than have to walk behind and manually steer. That would then open up the possibility of an auto mower version, but ryobi don't have any advanced software capability in-house. They'll have no choice eventually.
This mower makes absolutely no sense. I love ryobi products . I own many 18 and 40 volt items. Ryobi could have easily made this mower use two 40 volt 12ah batteries with two rapid chargers. But they had to make it on the 80 volt platform and charge so much . Highly unlikely they make an 80 volt battery to use on other ope equipment unless they will make a backpack for that battery. Even if they make a backpack for this 80 volt system. They make a backpack for their 40 volt line that could accept 3 - 40v 12ah batteries which would be a 40volt 36 ah backpack … GREED RYOBI PURE GREED
Toro's soon to be released starts around $2.3K and Greenworks soon to be released 30inch starts at $2K without batteries. Yes, $2K is generally a lot for non-ride on mower. I guess you have to pay to play in the electric mower world.
Giant waste of money. Batteries simply don’t last. Mow tall grass and bog it down at all and batteries will be toast. Happened to my trimmer blower combo last year. Also, every manufacturer makes changes to make previous models obsolete after a few years anyway forcing you to buy a whole new model anyway. That doesn’t happen with gas. Batteries are a scam.
You have rocks in your lawn? I've been using an 80v Kobalt battery electric mower for six years now, and it hasn't been bothered by sticks at all. Can't tell you how it handles rocks, though, as there isn't a rock to be found in my lawn.
@@dubaudiproject861 unfortunately, in some parts of the country stones and rocks work their way to the surface no mater if you pick up every stone/pebble after seeding your yard. Particularly after winter when the ground thaws. Where I come from, we say we grow stones, gravel and rocks. No matter how careful I try to keep stones out of my yard, I wouldn’t trust a plastic mower, up against a stray stone. Especially the price you have to pay for most electric mowers and batteries.
This is the worst mower I have ever owned. I am a yard guy. No control over the blade speed. By the time this mower realizes it needs to ramp up the blade speed, it is ripping and pulling the grass out of my yard because the blades are not moving very fast. Great expensive tool to knock down weeds, if that is what you are looking for.
Here is a quick video on how to take advantage of the 2 tool kit deal at home depot.
ua-cam.com/video/11AjYdEDxmo/v-deo.html
I like how you kept the plastic wrap on top and tags hanging from it as you mowed so you could return it to the store.
Of course!! Like many of the folks here watching this video and commenting, I'm still on the fence. Wish toro would have released their etimemaster already.
I'm still waiting for my lawn to get a little taller to do another cut with the bag.
Im waiting for the greenworks 30” supposedly any day now should be in dealers this week. I would have gone for the toro also but who knows when that’s coming out.
@kelkev85 the 30" Greenworks looks like a beast of a mower. Their 82V 25" isn't too bad either.
@@dubaudiproject861 it does look awesome its literally in dealers today atleast near me and the timemaster is taking orders says 2-3 weeks out.
Yeah I don’t think so for that price ridiculous.
Thanks for doing this video. I wasn't aware of this mower and currently own a Toro Time Master, which has been a repair nightmare. I'd but this without hesitation if it weren't for the typical problem with these types of machines, which is battery cost. At $800.00 for a replacement, I'd have to have a 10 year guarantee on battery life to feel comfortable.
Gunny, thanks for sharing your personal experience with the timemaster.
The 80V battery currently has a 3yr warranty and extends to 5yr once you register it. I have to agree that the battery cost is pretty steep. $800 is the price of a new mower or a bunch of gas.
The fast 30" is a wonderful concept. Toro is getting there. Ryobi is making a bold move into this area. I love watching it unfold.
Thanks for the review. I got almost an acre and have used the 40v Ryobi for the last 3 years. I love the cut quality, and the quiet. (I can mow a 7am and nobody notices). But it takes almost 4 batteries. This 30 could be my perfect solution.
Thank you for sharing your experience with the 40v. It's been almost a year with this mower and the cut is same.
The Home Depot list price for the Ryobi 80V battery is $899.00 and it's Ryobi 80V charger is $734.02 for a total $1,633.02. $2,000 - $1,633.02 = $366.98 would be left to cover the actual lawnmower. It's almost aways much cheaper to buy things in its fully equipped package. If something were to happen where nether the charger or the battery were working well and they are out of warranty then like other battery powered tools it typically makes more sense to simply replace the whole system with a new battery powered mower.
This is a good showing that there is a gasoline comparable battery powered self propelled walk behind lawnmower available at about $2,000. A 15,000 sq. ft. lawn is about the normal limit for walk behind lawnmower so it's a good test for battery range. I'd like to have heard how the lawn cutting times compared with the gasoline lawnmower. You state its a bit harder to maneuver than the smaller gasoline mower, but did you need to do more string trimmer cutting because of that? This is actually a mini landscape mower at 30" cut so it should be a fair bit faster than the 21" standard walk behind mower.
The thin section plastic around the cutting plenum doesn't look nearly as tough as on a Honda Harmony. The plastic doesn't look like long lasting Rubbermate like plastic. It looks like toy plastic that will shrink and become brittle with age and exposure.
Thank you for breaking down the cost of the battery, charger, and mower. This same cost comparison could also be done with the new and upcoming Toro. The current timemaster cost around 1500 - 1800, depending on the model and the upcoming battery version is projected to be around 2400. The Toro holds three batteries (60V) at different amp sizes. I couldn't find the price of the 10amp, but found a price of the 6amp at 245 each. Even at the 6amp price, that would be 750 for three and even more for the 10amp. However, the Toro batteries can be used on more products outside their mower line. Hoping (fingers crossed) that Ryobi continues to develop products that can take advantage of their new 80V 10 amp (suitcase style) battery.
When I was referring to the mower being harder to maneuver, I feel my wife and I would need more behind the handle time to get used to the size/weight difference. My lawn isn't the typical straight forward front yard and backyard, so its hard to do an exact time comparison. We just noticed that it took less time (passes back and forth) to complete the backyard. I know its not a great answer, but it was noticeable between my wife and I. When the rain stops, we plan on doing a video on how well it bags.
As for the plastic, it is actually more rigid than what it appears across my video. Don't judge, but I even took some time and examined the wheels. The bearings are currently well lubricated and spins freely. It also doesn't have a hollow sound when knocking on it with a solid object. It actually appears to have some weight to them, since they need to support the 117lbs mower. The next thing I could do is weigh each wheel, but I'm afraid of breaking the center cap.
I took some time to look at the cutting deck and the shape isn't typical hub, but with some different angles to provide support. There is also a metal brace surrounding the outside edges. I assume that is for protection and structural reinforcement. I was trying to watch some other Ryobi 40V mowers and they seem to have the metal brace.
I've been waiting for this mower. I can't afford it and have no use for it other than a novelty, but totally dig watching it come out. I ran 30" Timemasters and love the fast 30" walk behind concept. I believe the fast 30" is as big a development as the stick edger and the backpack.
The blade size does come in handy to cover more yard.
My rant to Ryobi who too their credit reached out to me.
I really appreciate that your company is taking the time to reach out to customers. It says a lot about your company, and I genuinely appreciate it.
Unfortunately I feel as though I have become a beta tester for your new product. A product that dug up my lawn and weighs over 100 pounds, so it’s a pain to get back to the store.
I wanted to love this lawnmower. I have a hybrid vehicle and solar panels, and I am all for being green. I am also all for not changing carburetors which seems to be a big problem with gas engines. Finally, I am aware that small electric motors pack a big punch for getting up hills and turning blades. It will certainly outperform its gas competition in this area. I was really impressed with battery and charger, wow it charges fast.
The problem is, it doesn’t mow the lawn properly, and it cost $2K. It cuts the grass far worse than my 2005ish under $200 lawn mower. It doesn’t just miss spots, it misses entire patches. It doesn’t cut the grass because the blades slow down. I have no way to control the blade speed. I understand that is to extend the battery life so it will mow 1 acre. I don’t have 1 acre and would prefer the blades run at full speed all of the time.
Its impossible that your engineers were unaware of this problem. If they were not, you should get new engineers. A system that spins up when it detects grass, and has a several second spin up time is never going to work for people with real crappy lawns like mine. I am sure it works great in the rough at Augusta (where the Masters is played if your not a golfer), but it doesn’t work on my crappy inconsistent grass.
You sold me a problem. Its going back to the store. I considered trying to wire in a switch so I could turn the blades up, but thankfully my wife convinced me that is a crazy idea. I will be sticking with gas. I hope you fix the problem, because I so wanted to love this mower. Please don’t use customers at beta testers without them being aware of it. It really is a huge inconvenience.
I appreciate your time listening to my ranting Alex. Please send this to your engineers who need to hear how poorly they are doing. I know they can do better. Ryobi has some fantastic products.
Adam, I really appreciate you sharing your experiences with this group.
My grass is a tall fescue and have notice any patches. What I see as an issue is the overall length (front to back). I'm not too sure what they didn't make the blades side by side like the Toro timemaster or greenworks 25". Since Ryobi decided to place the blades in an angle it makes the front longer to accommodate the angle cutting deck. I find myself forgetting how long the front is and lift to trun right or left. What that means I miss a patch of grass. It would have been nice to have caster wheels.
Like you said the mower weighs 117lbs without the battery and more with it...I also can't forget about bagging and the weight of the grass clippings. With all that weight, lifting the front to turn digs the rear tires on the ground. This would matter if the ground is hard, but unfortunately mine is not so it digs into the soil.
Another area is the width of the handle. The Toro timemaster angles in, so the width of the handle isn't as wide. The 30" Ryobi is a straight bar, so the width is huge making left and right turns clumsy.
Lastly is the styling. I feel that Ryobi missed the mark
Their 80V ride on lines has more balck coloring separating them from the previous line. They could have followed that design template instead of the color scheme of their 16" mowers.
Don't get me started on their joystick ride on mowers...lol
Get the Milwaukee mower
I took the mower back and got a Toro Timemaster 30. It's better in every way. It even cuts the grass! It has more power, the blades spin at full speed all the time and the perfect pace system is easier to use and instantly responds. It turns easier and doesn't dig up the lawn despite being 30ish lbs heavier. I wish I had gotten the Toro mower first and not bothered with the Ryobi.
I assume you bought the gas powered timemaster. I'm glad you were able to return and do a comparison! Does it cut more evenly?
@@dubaudiproject861 Yes, its the gas-powered model. It cuts as would be expected. One pass for any type of grass.
Great review bro. I was actually really looking forward to this this mower and seeing how it works. I currently have the toro timemaster and a 21 in Ryobi mower. But man that 2k price tag I could only imagine with that new electric time master is going to cost probably minimum 2500
Thank you for the positive comment. Same here, I'm looking forward on how this mower does this season. So far, it's looking good.
Is there any cutting difference between your toro and RYOBI?
@@dubaudiproject861 honestly, the toro has much more power to get through the tough stuff but I prefer the way the Ryobi cuts and it's so much lighter. I feel beat up after mowing with the timemaster 😂
Great review! Thank you so much!
Thanks man!
Thanks for the real world review.
Thank you. I plan on getting more mowing time to provide some updates.
Do you plan on taking it back?? LOL I love how you have the protective wrap on and the tags hanging from it while your wife is cutting the lawn lol In all seriousness though, nice video!! Thanks and I love Ryobi products!!!
This is the most expensive lawn equipment that I have purchased in my 40+ years on this earth...lol
I actually put it back in the box the other day, but took it out again.
I want to do another cut before I pin down my final decision. It's been raining in my area, so I'm playing the waiting game. Thank you for the feedback!
You mentioned that the blade speed is adjustable? Is the "Throttle" you mention in the description used for self propulsion speed, or does it change the blade speed?
I've been using a Kobalt 80v mower for the last six years now, and I really like it except for one thing... It does have a fast blade speed and a slow blade speed, and it defaults to the slow blade speed unless it detects that the blade is slowing down, then it kicks into fast blade speed. It is completely automatic, and the blade speed is not able to be changed by the user.
This really sucks in areas like mine (scorching hot desert) where the grass varieties we have to plant are stiff and broad leaf. The low blade speed doesn't stand the blades of grass up well enough, nor does it provide enough vacuum to remove lawn detritus thoroughly enough. If they had just given the user the ability to chose to run it in high speed all the time it would've been the perfect mower.
If the Ryobi (and possibly the coming eTimemaster) does in fact have user adjustable blade speed, it'll be a "shut up and take my money" situation.
The throttle is solely for forward motion (walking speed). Unfortunately the blade speed is exactly how you are describing yours. The blade only increases when it senses a larger load ..aka thicker grass. My grass wasn't too long when I cut it, but I did hear the blades increase in speed in thicker areas.
@@dubaudiproject861 I appreciate the information, thank you. That takes the Ryobi off of the list.
Toro does already have an adjustable blade speed electric mower, but I'm waiting to see what the eTimemaster has in store before making a final decision.
Thanks again!
To confirm, does it come with the bag?
Yes, it comes with the bag
I'd definitely stay away from this one. Used mine all summer and it's going to be one and done for me. First battery was a dog and only got thru my 1/2 acre lawn a couple times on a single charge. Ryobi did replace it so kudos to them for that but even with a good battery, the cut quality is just not comparable to any of my previous mowers.
What other mowers did you compare it to?
It seems like the entire underside (not including the cutting area, of course) should be covered with a plastic cover (like an electric car). That would prevent wet grass from sticking into all of that honeycomb area and, more importantly, it would protect that motor/transmission component that drives the rear wheels. I don't think it would have cost much for Ryobi to include a cover.
You mentioned you have a large (~15k) yard, any slopes? Curious how it handles them.
My yard is pretty flat with the exception of the ditch in my front yard. For that I currently use a weed wacker, but plan on purchasing a 13" RYOBI mower.
@@dubaudiproject861How much battery did you have left?
I had around 52% left after doing the front and back.
@@dubaudiproject861 Well, mine is being delivered today. We'll see how it handles my yard.
@@mountainsinmymind 10 months late on this but any update on how it handled your yard and slope?
Thank you for the review! After more time, do you find the mower worth the price? I can get a 10% military discount on it so that makes it even better. I have one of their 21" 40v mowers which I love, and am trying to decide if it's worth the cost to go up to 30" to make my mowing faster.
If you take advantage of the military discount and the 2 tool kit, then it would definitely be worth considering. You'll get the deal from the kit and military.
I like the cut width of the 30". Since using it, I would only go down to a 25" greenworks. The crosscut blades is not a gimic and works as advertised.
I see a few places reference a RYPM8001 and a RYPM8010. What’s the difference?
Thanks for the review. How fast is the self propel speed? I had ryobi's 21" mower that looked similar in design to this and at max speed it was too slow. I ended up getting rid of it because it took forever to mow the yard. I got a greenworks 25" and it seemed to go what felt like double the speed of the ryobi, but didn't cut as nice.
It's a brisk walk. Not sure how to translate it, since it maybe subjective. When my wife and used the mower we left the speed limiter in the middle setting.
i love the greenworks 25 incher, its so light to, the ryobi is almost 120 lbs, and quadruple the price. i just wish the GW was ipx5 so i could hose it off easier
@@mainsource8030 I love/hate the Greenworks 25." It's faster in perfect conditions, but double cutting almost every time in the spring doesn't save any time.
@@BLVCKFLAGD luckily i dont have that issue, i do sharpen my blades alot though
Greenworks 82V Commercial 25 inch is IPX5
Any idea(s) on how well the mower can move up hill and still keep cutting (at speed)
As a small business owner, I found out that you can deduct the cost of a lawn mower off your taxes. With so many people having a home business, this can for sure help! Also, when you look at many lawn care production companies now offering EV equipment for blowers, edging, etc., the same battery can be used. I really like the idea of the easy folding so it takes up less space in your garage. I will use it for mostly leaves as Alabama is 85% tree cover from out mountain lakes regions to the Gulf Shore beaches, going from most of the state all sub-tropical long seasons, but still more trees than most states. I live on a bluff over 1,200 feet straight down to the valley with heavy canopy hard woods and lots of leaves in late winter. I do have a lawn care company take care of the grass, but they stop after the so-called last leaf fall period, but the winds and millions of trees have their own period of releasing their respective leaves, so I am tired of raking leaves with the wife and this is a great fix. I will keep my summer lawn care company, as a small business operating all over the state, I do not want to go back to that hot summer period, just the winters with leaves for us! After a year or so, it will be time for a driving EV, as the repair for gas is past its prime, gas stinks, oil, air filters, plugs, etc. as all are reflected in the huge numbers of people buying now mostly EV's across America, at least with lawn mowers, NOT SO, with cars, but we all understand that and that is yet another video. I will keep my new Acura MDX until we get 500,000 charging level 2 charging stations and next level batteries that get you at least 500 miles per charge. When you travel a state of 52,000 square miles more than all the New England states via business you can not spend all your time staying motels so you can charge a SUV. Time is money!
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and how you intend to use it in Alabama
Got mine a couple weeks ago. I like it so far, but like you said, there is a simple learning curve. The blade RPM going up and down on its own is a little confusing to me because when it revs up, it doesn't seem to match the grass height. Also, my bagger bag and side chute were missing from my box and, going on two weeks, I still haven't received them. I kinda wish that I just returned it for another one vs. dealing with a trouble ticket. Mine also did not have the skid plate. I was told that the plate was discontinued from the unit but shows in the manual.
Sorry to hear about your issues. They are right, the plate was removed from the production model. I had a trouble ticket open.
How do you like the cut so far?
@@dubaudiproject861 Sorry for that long delay. I like the cut and everything so far. I am a bit concerned about long term reliability. I know it has a long warranty but some of the "plastic" type noises that it makes while maneuvering it around concern me a little. I spoke with Ryobi again, the service girl was fantastic on the phone, but I still have not received the missing parts. I sent a follow up email after about 2 weeks and have not heard back. I now wish that I just returned the whole thing for a new unit. I love the larger cut swath; I can mow my yard much faster. The battery charged very quickly. one mowing usually takes it down to about 65% and it recharges to 100% very fast. I like the way it can be stored upright too. I am going to give it until next week to see if I receive my parts before I start to ramp things up a bit.
Does this mower have separate electric motors for each blade set? Ryobi’s website isn’t clear about this. The Timemaster and Greenworks 25” both have timed, side by side blades which requires a belt. Not sure if this one has a belt under the cover. Seems like this wouldn’t have a belt since there is no need for timing with the staggered deck.
Or, actually plastic gears on the GW 25”.
Each set of blades works independently of each other similar to their ride on mower. I saw thus on a RYOBI video about their 80V mower line.
Wait… 2k for this??? I thought it would be like 1 -1.5k at most. 2k is commercial push mower pricing. Ridiculous.
Hey do you know the exact height of adjustments I know it’s 1-4” but what’s the increments ? Thx
Unfortunately I don't have the measurements.
One could buy two 20" electric lawn mower and a string trimmer and bolt them together for a 40" deck and still cost less than this thing lol
I'm just waiting for my kids to get a little older and maybe I can do two 20" without joining them together..lol
Did you ever figure out if you need that metal plate under the deck? I just received my mower and it didn't have a metal plate either. Not sure if it is necessary or not.
I asked Ryobi and another youtuber. Ryobu removed the skidplate on the production models.
Below is a link to the answer.
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@@dubaudiproject861 awesome! Thanks so much for the quick and helpful response. Sounds good! How do you like the mower overall? Do you plan to keep it? I'm excited to try mine out this week. Should be a nice upgrade from my old craftsman electric mower in terms of power and also allow me to mow my 13,000 sq ft lawn more quickly. I also used to bag my clippings since my mower never mulched finely enough, but I'm hopeful this Ryobi will mulch better.
The cut is 100% better than my gas-powered mower. It also has more power. We are satisfied with the cut as it is even and don't leave a mess when mulching or bagging. Battery is fast charging and lasts for a while.
My wife and I just came back from lowes and Home Depot to check out the new ride on mowers. We are still leaning towards the walk behind like the ones we have for the easy bagging and storage.
The things that keep me up at night are the dimensions and turning capabilities. I was in the garage, and it looks like Ryobi took their 40V line and stretched it out proportionately. As it was made for a large human. I guess that translates into turning left or right. If you have ever seen the Toro Timemaster, the front wheels are closer together, and the rear wheels are not too far apart. I wish I had a Timemaster to compare it side bybside. This may not be an issue to you or others, but it's a mental wall that I can't seem to climb over.
@@dubaudiproject861 thanks for the update! Glad to hear the cut and power is excellent! I hope that the battery is able to last during my entire cut and that the longevity of the battery lasts for many years without much degradation. My Craftsman electric mower battery completely died after 4 years. Glad to see this mower has a 5-year warranty. I was debating the ride on mowers as well but like you said, I appreciate the portability and foldability of this mower so I can easily store it and maneuver it around the yard more easily as well. I also enjoy mowing and getting some cardio in. I'm interested to see how the first cut goes and how the turning works out for me. We'll see!
Let us know how it goes. I'm really interested in other owners' impressions
Interesting. I’ll have to check this out. Any clumping under the deck with wet grass?
I've only been able to get one cut in since buying it this past Tuesday. So far with my one cut I don't see any clumping.
I'll try to do a follow-up video using the bag.
@@dubaudiproject861 cool. I’ve got a TimeMaster which I like but this is intriguing. I’m going to try to buy one this weekend.
It would nice to hear your comparison with the Toro vs RYOBI.
To be honest if the Toro eTimemaster was out I would have a hard time deciding. However, in my opinion RYOBI's 80V battery tech is currently edging other brands.
Plus the dual blades actually provide a great cut. Well see how ot does when my grass is a little longer.
My biggest concern is the offset cutting deck. Does it at least cut up to the wheels on the short side? What's the distance between wheels?
I believe so, but I'll confirm on my next cut.
@@dubaudiproject861 Thanks!
The biggest concern is the automatic blade speed. I returned mine because it doesn't cut the grass.
Did you get the free blower/string trimmer combo, when you bought it?
Yes, the only way to receive it free in the store or online is if your store you are ordering from has the mower and blower/trimmer in stocks.
The in store associate has to scan both items, then it will activate the deal. Same online, you have to add both mower and trim/blower kit to your cart then the deal will appear.
It was an absolute nightmare to figure this out and some back and forth with the associate. At the end my local home depot figured it out.
@@dubaudiproject861 yah, that free offer made the $2k price a little more….”reasonable”. Been waiting on reviews for it. Like to see the bagging and side discharge at work. This thing is suppose to compete with the toro timemaster, and that thing is a beast
@@jfraz6246
You are right, the new e-Timemaster should be a beast.
By the way, I made a quick video on how to take advantage of the current deL.
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@@dubaudiproject861 we’ll see how the e-timemaster goes. So far seems like they’re electric stuff is about on par with everyone else. I like the gas timemaster, that thing is a beast
have you done any other cuts with it? how's it working? i actually ordered one, still deciding if i am going to use it or return it haha....expensive but the allure of twice the deck of my 16" electric mower was too great! thanks for the video.
I've done a second cut the other day when the grass was damp around 6 to 7 inches tall. I took some clips of it and will post early next week.
I can tell you that it handled the damp grass well with a very few stragglers. This was mostly from the tires bending the grass over before it had a chance to get cut. I assume this issue would be present in any mower with larger wheels.
The bag never clogged and grass never backed out like my Gass mower.
How longs the warranty?
Without registration, it's 3 years, and with its 5 years. The deck has a limited lifetime warranty.
How much does the lawnmower weight with out the battery
On the RYOBI website the mower weighs 117lbs. Not sure of that is with or without the battery.
I just weighed the battery with my scale and showed 8lbs. That is doing it three times. I'm guessing the 117bs is without. So 125lbs total
One thing the 60V Timemaster has over this is it comes with 2 10AH batteries. And those batteries are $449 each.
I think there are a few pros of the Electric Timemaster: battery, the ability to control fan speed, and overall length
You have a robotic mower in the market - why do you need to push it around?
Lol..it does look like a robot. My kids say it's a big Rc truck.
Where do you find the serial number???
Looks like the main goal when they designed this product, was to use up as much plastic as possible🤔
If I had a cash prize for the best comment, you sir would have taken all my money. 😀
Even though it's 30 inches. $2000 seems absolutely ridiculous for a mostly plastic mower. You can get the best of the best gas mower for half the price. Even the Toro timemaster is $1600 and that's 30 inches.
The new electric timemasternis around $2.4K. It's like comparing a corolla to a tesla, they are cars but not the same.
You are missing the cover plate. I saw the plate on other videos.
Are you talking about the plastic cover that goes over the battery compartment?
@@dubaudiproject861 On the bottom of the mower. You can see where the screw holes are..
@Frank Brunacci according to Ryobi, the plate was removed on the production models. They said it cuts better without ut.
@Dubaudi Project Good to know, mine is being delivered tomorrow. If mine has that plate, I'll let ya know. Thanks for the info..
Let me also know how the first cut goes!
The battery alone is $900. So when the battery dies in 4-5 years you’re out the price of what the thing should cost to begin with.
That is a great point. These style batteries cost as much or more as a new 22" mower
@@dubaudiproject861 I have an Ego Select Cut XP, bought it used 2 years ago. I also have a Craftsman 42 inch riding gas mower. I WANT to go all battery but the cost of the new batteries has me patching up my old Craftsman, it’s 17 years old and still works. The Ego just isn’t wide enough, I use it for smaller spaces and it never hurts to have a backup. I’m waiting for Ego to make a 30 inch as I have 6 Ego batteries already. But hopefully these new 80 volts last. My oldest Ego batteries I bought in 2017, they still work but have lost about 80% of their original run time while in a leaf blower.
Someone selling this lawnmower in the facebook marketplace brand new for $750. Is it worth it
If you’re going to spend over 2k for a dang mower, get a Toro Turfmaster with a Kohler command pro engine. Don’t even bother with battery or s Timemaster. You’re spending that much just buy the commercial version with best engine and skip all these issues.
Two thousand for plastic, a few electric motors, battery and charger. This just looks like clear price gouging no matter how good the cut. I'll pass...
Agree the price is high and all electric mowers need to lower in price
It's the batteries that are raising the price
Awesome mower but for almost $2000 its in the riding mower category....
I was going to just comment, "I hope they offer a blackout version because that green color is hideous". But forget it, the bottom is all honeycomb plastic. Lots of places for grass to get stuck. This is a toy, It might as well look like one. Don't get me wrong, Honda HRX has an awesome plastic deck. This is not that. This is not for me. That price is hilarious! I hope you were able to return it.
I also wonder how greenworks can offer their 25 (lower price) and 30 commercial (similar price). Toro emaster should be around $2.4K.
Yet here I am with the RYOBI stored away in my garage. 😀
I agree and glad you said it.
It's made mostly of plastic and it looks it.
And the $2,000 price tag is shocking.
Price tag is way too high I would rather buy a small zero turn lawn mower and be sitting down when I mow my grass I do like the mower it's just way too expensive
Let me know what ride-on mower you end up buying
So you use the product, make a video, then return it to thr store?
That's pretty cheeky man.
When they're getting this big, I'd rather have a remote control than have to walk behind and manually steer. That would then open up the possibility of an auto mower version, but ryobi don't have any advanced software capability in-house. They'll have no choice eventually.
Thanks for the review and great job. To me this thing is not worth more than 1k
No problem. It's hard to justify the current price point.
I can buy 5 Ryobi 40v mowers for the price of one of those!
This mower makes absolutely no sense. I love ryobi products . I own many 18 and 40 volt items. Ryobi could have easily made this mower use two 40 volt 12ah batteries with two rapid chargers. But they had to make it on the 80 volt platform and charge so much . Highly unlikely they make an 80 volt battery to use on other ope equipment unless they will make a backpack for that battery. Even if they make a backpack for this 80 volt system. They make a backpack for their 40 volt line that could accept 3 - 40v 12ah batteries which would be a 40volt 36 ah backpack … GREED RYOBI PURE GREED
Agree. I'm not sure where else you can use this case 80V..other than mower and ride on
2000$ for a30 inch cut lawn mower is way too much.
Toro's soon to be released starts around $2.3K and Greenworks soon to be released 30inch starts at $2K without batteries.
Yes, $2K is generally a lot for non-ride on mower. I guess you have to pay to play in the electric mower world.
Giant waste of money. Batteries simply don’t last. Mow tall grass and bog it down at all and batteries will be toast. Happened to my trimmer blower combo last year. Also, every manufacturer makes changes to make previous models obsolete after a few years anyway forcing you to buy a whole new model anyway. That doesn’t happen with gas. Batteries are a scam.
Sorry to hear about your trimmer.
After owning a battery mower I will never again buy one.
2k? lol hard no
I would stay away Ryobi no matter how good the deal looks.
If you only came into my life and told this to me earlier.
GOOD for you but Im will keep my gas powered lawn mowers .The first stick or rock will destroy the cheap plastic deck .
thank you Richard for stopping by and providing some recommendations. I'll make sure I don't over seed with rocks and sticks!
You have rocks in your lawn?
I've been using an 80v Kobalt battery electric mower for six years now, and it hasn't been bothered by sticks at all. Can't tell you how it handles rocks, though, as there isn't a rock to be found in my lawn.
@@floorpizza8074 maybe Richard's driveway is rocks and not paved and lives near a whole bunch of trees.
@@dubaudiproject861 unfortunately, in some parts of the country stones and rocks work their way to the surface no mater if you pick up every stone/pebble after seeding your yard. Particularly after winter when the ground thaws. Where I come from, we say we grow stones, gravel and rocks.
No matter how careful I try to keep stones out of my yard, I wouldn’t trust a plastic mower, up against a stray stone. Especially the price you have to pay for most electric mowers and batteries.
@@Dane801962 The is true about stones and plastic pieces. I'll keep an eye out if this happens to me and report back on the damages.
This is the worst mower I have ever owned. I am a yard guy. No control over the blade speed. By the time this mower realizes it needs to ramp up the blade speed, it is ripping and pulling the grass out of my yard because the blades are not moving very fast. Great expensive tool to knock down weeds, if that is what you are looking for.
Price and place of purchase??
Home Depot and around 1.6K after discounts.
@@dubaudiproject861 thank you….so overall, would you buy it again? I’m really thinking about it….I now use a Toro Timemaster….🙏🙏
2000 dollars 🤣💩🤣
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