For any watching this that don't know, the Carthusians are like... the "special forces" of pray-ers. Each of the monks in the monastery lives in a "cell"...one of those little duplex apartments around the outside. It's so large because they spend about 20 hours per day there. Most monks pray the various hours in common in the church; Carthusians pray everything --except the hour of Matins and Mass-- alone in their cell. They also eat every meal in their cell, and they spend most of the rest of the time studying and tending to the garden, which is the little square outside of the cell. There are probably about 500 of these guys in the world, and they feel that the only way for them to fit into the world, is to pray for it. So if you believe in that sort of thing, and like the idea that someone is praying for you, well, this building is not a ruin; these guys are still there, and that's what they're doing.
Thank you. I really appreciate learning of the various orders and their particular charisms. I converted 44 years ago when I was 30 and all throughout those years my joy grows and my gratitude to our Lord increases. How is this Charterhouse related to the Carthusians in the French Alps? I look forward to sometime seeing the magnificent video "Into Great Silence".
If "Into Great Silence" attracted you, be sure to read "An Infinity of Little Hours". It's about five young men who entered the order in the early 1960s. There is information about their lives, customs of the order, history, amusing anecdotes and experiences, etc. They are indeed the "special forces", and we need them now more than ever.
I was a candidate postulant for the lay brothers in in the early 1960's. I had my 21st birthday there. I can see the window of the cell that was allocated to me when I was there. 'Really brought back some bitter sweet memories.
@SonofSeraphim actually one of my favourites too. I often return to the pages (at random) I think it's because our world seems in constant flux and theirs (seems) unchanging. I stay on retreat with the Benedictines at Worth. When asked "would you be a Carthusian?" They always laugh and shake their heads! Truly a vocation only for the few and God Bless them!
@SonofSeraphim so pleased about your devotion as an oblate for such a duration. It has always struck me how aware the Saint was about balancing the mundane with the mystical; not only a true work of devotion, but a handbook for balanced living. Getting up at midnight on the other hand... not so sure! Best, Simon
@SonofSeraphimI had trouble with that. We had no clocks or watches and I once missed that gentle knock on the door around midnight and missed the night office. After that I did not sleep well worrying that I might miss the knock and the night office. I was tired during the day and there was no afternoon nap.
Glorious! Amazing! What a beautiful monastery and beautiful life of prayer and contemplation. Each cell is more like a small cottage, with their own garden!
The amazing thing is that most people in Sussex have no idea that it's even there! One of the tallest spires in the country, massive proportions and the most dedicated servants of God (in this world)The only chance glimpse most of us get is if we happen to the catch the "white fathers" on their Friday walk through the bucolic Sussex countryside. And right before them everyday is the graveyard they will be buried in. In one way they never leave. Superb video Sir.
If I remember rightly the weekly walk or spatiamentum was on Monday afternoons. Friday is a bread and water day so perhaps not the best day for a three hour hike, especially for the older monks.
I was in a pub in the local village once and got talking to some of the locals. Although i knew what the tall spire was i pretended to not know to see what they thought and asked "whats that huge cathedral place over the fields was' They replied 'They are a strange bunch of monks who ring their bells at all times'. One local told me when he was a child he grew up believing the monks sleep in coffins!!!
For men, this is impossible. But for God, all things are possible. Now, just saying, the Carthusians are mighty with the Lord. And this aerial is quite a treat.
By looking at the church you get the directions (East 😀). Then you can see how they built to get the best sunlight for each munk's garden. The side with "open" gardens is to the South. North has the munk's cell main building on the outside edge as do those to the west. Common buildings and church to the East. Very interesting and beautiful. This is unless I got the church wrong... In which case the common buildings are to the west and the "open" gardens to the north... then to catch as much light as it can... 🤷 I never visited this charterhouse but I have been to la Grande Chartreuse twice and visited the lay brothers', today museum, buildings. Even if it was not forbidden to take a silent walk to the main monastery we chose not to - why disturb them!? We stayed at a friend's house on the other side of the mountain peake. The mountains are breathtaking!
I saw "Into great silence" a very long time ago, and I have not been able to see it anymore; just out takes or clips. It wouldn't hurt the powers that be to let us see that movie - I think it is even more important today :)
Maravilloso el paisaje de este monasterio de los Cartujos, tuve la suerte y experiencia de estar en un monasterio benedictino cerca de York, fue algo muy grande lo que vivi. Me gustaria visitar y experimentar estar en este monasterio Cartujo, ya que tienen una vida mas de oracion. Mis mejores deseos y oraciones para Uds., desde Chile ❤❤❤
Back when the catholic church was self sufficient the Abby would have vast farms to sell food and provide for themselves. They were not beholden to anyone.
How did they “exploit” people? They nursed the sick and old and poor. When the monasteries and nunneries were destroyed in the Reformation, these poor people were put onto the streets. The workhouse system was instituted in the reign of Elizabeth 1st to try and help the poor.
It used to be open to the public on Sundays and holy days of obligation. They had a bit of a problem when the novus ordo mass was introduced into our churches because those tho did not want it tried to dodge it by going to Mass at Parkminster. The Carthusian rite was not the Tridentine rite, but very much akin to it.
I was there several years ago with Dom several Pierce trying my location. I live in California, and yet the Charlie house in Vermont would know exactly. Very odd.
This complex must be very new judging from the architecture. After sex fiend Henry VIII did his little number, we had to start from scratch in that country.
I had limited music stock from Wondershare Filmora. And Teardrops Sky is free stock. To me, the music kind of gives grandeur to how massive this monastery building is. Anyway, I am using www.epidemicsound.com now. Around 97% of 490 like this video with 19000 views. This makes this video my most popular. Most of my 100 videos don't have more than 30 views.
Those religious, men and women stand between heaven and earth begging God to be merciful to us here in the physical world. We wouldn't exist if it wasn't for tham.
Madam Guyon, known as a "quietist" wrote Experiencing the Depths of Jesus Christ along these lines, very influencial to Christian leaders, Catholic & Protestant alike, over centuries.
Yes. One lot of the monk's apartments have windows facing south and the other side is facing east. So to the North and west, you have a wall or apartment with no windows. Note that each cell has a garden that does not overlook any of the other cells.
Your comment bears upon a profound matter that is hard to explain. Here's my best effort: I think the primary purpose of the location is to provide isolation from the world. The isolated location *is* beautiful, but being beautiful isn't it's real purpose. The monks live out an extreme asceticism that wouldn't be very much concerned with enjoying beauty in physical objects. They are looking for a much deeper beauty, the kind that requires disciplining the senses, rather than indulging them.
@@tdexter4959 I think you must be right. It’s hard to remember that many monastic orders were founded at a time when people didn’t take much account of natural beauty. It just looks so odd to a 21st century sensibility.
To the monks, this place is where they devote their life strictly to self-isolation in prayer to god. They do take on other tasks, kitchen, laundry, garden even some building maintenance, as can be observed at the 3:50 second of the video. For a lot of people spend most of their hours in small little houses in prying this would be a prison. The design of the Charterhouse is by a French architect, Clovis Normand in 1873. I'm not sure how they get the funds to build St Hugh's Charterhouse, but I imagine it in the same way other churches and religious buildings get built.
@@photonatureengland8895 from what I’ve learnt, each monk spends time everyday making something in his cell house to sell to contribute to the funds for the monastery
They work. Each cell had two floors one room for living/praying/study and one room that is a workshop. Then they each have a personal garden where they grow things. They also have other gardens and workshops in common (community) areas. The original charterhouse own the secret recipe for the chartusian liquor that is produced outside the monastery - a monk come to add the last secret ingrediences for each batch. Originally each charterhouse had two "sets" of brothers. First the ones leading their hermit-community life - they remain today. And secondly a very nearby house with what was called laybrothers who lived the same spirituality but without the strict isolation. This second group of brothers took care of the greater part of the contact with the outer world and tasks that needed to be done there. Today I would guess there are "friend-organisatons" of some kind that help the brothers in different ways and share in their spirituality. But that is my guess only.
"Prison" for those actually in prison, is imposed on someone caught, tried and convicted of wrong doing. This is a self-imposed retreat from the world FOR the world, and for them it is sanctuary, a place of extreme peace and unity with God for the benefit of all in the world. I think, to them, "prison" would be to be forced out of their chosen way of life. God bless!
I was flying my little drone discreetly around 100m high so, it's not likely that any of the monks outside would have noticed. And if they were inside at prayer they would not hear the drone. I saw the monastery for many years when walking in the south down. It is a pledge to get a good view, of the monastery as I was inquisitive and I learn a lot more about the monastery.
@@photonatureengland8895 Okay, but discreet has to do with basic respect for others property, high or not. I don't SEE satelites but they see everything !!. Thanks for response.🧐🧐🌍🛰️📡
The Music I had was the only music, I had at the time. It may have been better suited to the monetary music. I also have to see what music I can use as UA-cam will automatically say it is copyrighted.
@@photonatureengland8895Thank you for making the video. The monastery is very impressive. Nice to have a recent documentation of it too. Good luck in the future.
Hi. Which of the 3 different music pieces in this video did you not like? The First was Teardrop sky' Second - Begin Again Third was Butterfly. I had a limited stock of music at the time so it was quite difficult to get find music to suit the videos. I now use music from epidemicsound.com to fine better music for video.
@@photonatureengland8895 the music, to me, was good. My guess is that others wanted Gregorian chant. J. S. Bach, Haydn, or Palestrina could be other choices. Good job respecting the contemplation.
There's nothing more annoying than the buzzing of a drone. Even worse is the peeping-Tom drone over an enclosed monastery. Disgusting to disturb and intrude on people trying to pray.
It is unlike that they notice this drone or could even hear it. As it was more than 100m above the monastery. And also I was not flying right up to the building itself. In other words, In my mind, there is no difference between me taking photos with my hand-held camera or with a drone. And I've photographed many churches and monasteries.
They are very well adjusted it seems. They do meet together, they are not complete hermits. There is a very lengthy and careful period of discernment, a few become postulants. Most of the postulants drop out only one in nine become novices and of those only one in four become choir monks. The application process looks at emotional stability amongst other factors. The ones who get through as choir and lay monks are well adjusted healthy and well suited to a life of prayer and study. They seem to be very happy and healthy. But yes, it's not for the majority of us, we do not have the desire, stamina ability or circumstances for it. God bless them.
@@davidtombs7385 And of course what is paramount is that you are called to it. It is a rare vocation, and not all those who are attracted to it are able to persevere to the end. I was one of the many who tried and sadly had to accept that it was not form me. As a priest told me once, "the good that we wish to do is not always the good that God wants us to do." If I had stayed I probably would be one of the most senior lay brothers by now as I wold have had my golden jubilee of profession.
@@paulbastier3773 It is indeed a rare vocation. Presumably, the journey that you undertook still gave you, and God, a great deal. Thank you for writing, yours is a rare account too.
For any watching this that don't know, the Carthusians are like... the "special forces" of pray-ers. Each of the monks in the monastery lives in a "cell"...one of those little duplex apartments around the outside. It's so large because they spend about 20 hours per day there. Most monks pray the various hours in common in the church; Carthusians pray everything --except the hour of Matins and Mass-- alone in their cell. They also eat every meal in their cell, and they spend most of the rest of the time studying and tending to the garden, which is the little square outside of the cell. There are probably about 500 of these guys in the world, and they feel that the only way for them to fit into the world, is to pray for it. So if you believe in that sort of thing, and like the idea that someone is praying for you, well, this building is not a ruin; these guys are still there, and that's what they're doing.
Yes they have a very strict, life of pray
They still live the same life that their order has lived for centuries. The most austere of the Catholic religious orders.
Thank you.
I really appreciate learning of the various orders and their particular charisms.
I converted 44 years ago when I was 30 and all throughout those years my joy grows and my gratitude to our Lord increases.
How is this Charterhouse related to the Carthusians in the French Alps?
I look forward to sometime seeing the magnificent video "Into Great Silence".
Really are 271 in the world
@@lovelettknight9344 The monastery in the french alps is the 'Mother House' of the order.
Wonderful to see active monasteries instead of abandoned stone ruins with martyr's blood. Christ prevails. Outstanding. !!
My son is there
Is that hard for you?
What a blessing he is for you !our lady was given to the Temple school at 3 yrs of age!
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Thanks to the Monks who pray unceasingly for the world, and thank you for sharing this video. God bless you. 🙏
Monkey business!
Ever think that maybe what they're doing isn't working?
We know their prayers are working because God has not annihilated us despite our sinning day & night.
If "Into Great Silence" attracted you, be sure to read "An Infinity of Little Hours". It's about five young men who entered the order in the early 1960s. There is information about their lives, customs of the order, history, amusing anecdotes and experiences, etc. They are indeed the "special forces", and we need them now more than ever.
I was a candidate postulant for the lay brothers in in the early 1960's. I had my 21st birthday there. I can see the window of the cell that was allocated to me when I was there. 'Really brought back some bitter sweet memories.
The world owes so much to these mighty men of prayer!
@SonofSeraphim actually one of my favourites too. I often return to the pages (at random) I think it's because our world seems in constant flux and theirs (seems) unchanging. I stay on retreat with the Benedictines at Worth. When asked "would you be a Carthusian?" They always laugh and shake their heads! Truly a vocation only for the few and God Bless them!
@SonofSeraphim so pleased about your devotion as an oblate for such a duration. It has always struck me how aware the Saint was about balancing the mundane with the mystical; not only a true work of devotion, but a handbook for balanced living. Getting up at midnight on the other hand... not so sure! Best, Simon
@SonofSeraphimI had trouble with that. We had no clocks or watches and I once missed that gentle knock on the door around midnight and missed the night office. After that I did not sleep well worrying that I might miss the knock and the night office. I was tired during the day and there was no afternoon nap.
Glorious! Amazing! What a beautiful monastery and beautiful life of prayer and contemplation. Each cell is more like a small cottage, with their own garden!
The amazing thing is that most people in Sussex have no idea that it's even there! One of the tallest spires in the country, massive proportions and the most dedicated servants of God (in this world)The only chance glimpse most of us get is if we happen to the catch the "white fathers" on their Friday walk through the bucolic Sussex countryside. And right before them everyday is the graveyard they will be buried in. In one way they never leave. Superb video Sir.
If I remember rightly the weekly walk or spatiamentum was on Monday afternoons. Friday is a bread and water day so perhaps not the best day for a three hour hike, especially for the older monks.
@@paulbastier3773 appreciate the correction! Best, Simon
I was in a pub in the local village once and got talking to some of the locals. Although i knew what the tall spire was i pretended to not know to see what they thought and asked "whats that huge cathedral place over the fields was' They replied 'They are a strange bunch of monks who ring their bells at all times'. One local told me when he was a child he grew up believing the monks sleep in coffins!!!
For men, this is impossible. But for God, all things are possible.
Now, just saying, the Carthusians are mighty with the Lord.
And this aerial is quite a treat.
British people, hope you never forget Mother Mary is England’s dowry.
THANK YOU
I’m reminded of A.W.N. Pugin’s Birds Eye view of the similar church complexes he designed an hundred and forty years ago now.
Dios les compense sus Oraciones 🙏 a todos los monjes Cartujos, aunque también hay monjas, y sus Oraciones son las que sostienen este mundo.📖
Thank you. Beautiful.
thanks to man and woman in the monastic life. they pray non stop. the world 🌎 is in need of plenty of prayer 🙏 ❤️
By looking at the church you get the directions (East 😀). Then you can see how they built to get the best sunlight for each munk's garden. The side with "open" gardens is to the South. North has the munk's cell main building on the outside edge as do those to the west. Common buildings and church to the East. Very interesting and beautiful.
This is unless I got the church wrong... In which case the common buildings are to the west and the "open" gardens to the north... then to catch as much light as it can... 🤷
I never visited this charterhouse but I have been to la Grande Chartreuse twice and visited the lay brothers', today museum, buildings. Even if it was not forbidden to take a silent walk to the main monastery we chose not to - why disturb them!? We stayed at a friend's house on the other side of the mountain peake. The mountains are breathtaking!
I had a look at la Grande Chartreuse on google earth. Look very beautiful and must be an interesting place.
I saw "Into great silence" a very long time ago, and I have not been able to see it anymore; just out takes or clips. It wouldn't hurt the powers that be to let us see that movie - I think it is even more important today :)
¡Hermoso!-Que bonito trabajo!
Maravilloso el paisaje de este monasterio de los Cartujos, tuve la suerte y experiencia de estar en un monasterio benedictino cerca de York, fue algo muy grande lo que vivi.
Me gustaria visitar y experimentar estar en este monasterio Cartujo, ya que tienen una vida mas de oracion.
Mis mejores deseos y oraciones para Uds., desde Chile ❤❤❤
magnificent :)
Back when the catholic church was self sufficient the Abby would have vast farms to sell food and provide for themselves. They were not beholden to anyone.
And they exploited the people.
boo hoo!
@@eliseereclus3475 In some rare cases yes but they also employed people, gave out alms, looked after the sick, and educated people.
@@eliseereclus3475 Some were good and others not so good. Just like everything else throughout history.
How did they “exploit” people?
They nursed the sick and old and poor. When the monasteries and nunneries were destroyed in the Reformation, these poor people were put onto the streets. The workhouse system was instituted in the reign of Elizabeth 1st to try and help the poor.
It is such a pity the external chapel is now closed
It used to be open to the public on Sundays and holy days of obligation. They had a bit of a problem when the novus ordo mass was introduced into our churches because those tho did not want it tried to dodge it by going to Mass at Parkminster. The Carthusian rite was not the Tridentine rite, but very much akin to it.
Our Father among the Saints, Hugh the Martyr, intercede for us with Christ our God. Amen.
Yes. Catedral de Santo caliz de valencia
Y pensar que fueron martilizados , pero no pudieron destruir su obra x qué es obra de Dios!!
Hermoso
I was there several years ago with Dom several Pierce trying my location. I live in California, and yet the Charlie house in Vermont would know exactly. Very odd.
Dom Cyril was novice Master during my second spell there many years ago. Happy memories.
I am guessing there is a Carthusian monastery in Vermont.
@@clarencelafuentes5331 Yes, Charterhouse of the Transfiguration.
This complex must be very new judging from the architecture. After sex fiend Henry VIII did his little number, we had to start from scratch in that country.
150 years old
Amen
The music is somewhat incongruous.
I had limited music stock from Wondershare Filmora. And Teardrops Sky is free stock.
To me, the music kind of gives grandeur to how massive this monastery building is.
Anyway, I am using www.epidemicsound.com
now.
Around 97% of 490 like this video with 19000 views.
This makes this video my most popular.
Most of my 100 videos don't have more than 30 views.
I found the music to be pleasant and unobtrusive.
Those religious, men and women stand between heaven and earth begging God to be merciful to us here in the physical world. We wouldn't exist if it wasn't for tham.
The house at the end of the world on you tube shows the life in Korea. Several episodes
🙏
Madam Guyon, known as a "quietist" wrote Experiencing the Depths of Jesus Christ along these lines, very influencial to Christian leaders, Catholic & Protestant alike, over centuries.
I want to live there - I know it's not what you think, but I wna tot live there.
Music seems completely wrong for a carthusian monastery
I don't think that the music is particularly wrong or diminishes this view of the large monastery.
I find this hard to understand. The monastery appears to be set in a beautiful landscape, yet its windows don’t overlook it.
Yes. One lot of the monk's apartments have windows facing south and the other side is facing east. So to the North and west, you have a wall or apartment with no windows.
Note that each cell has a garden that does not overlook any of the other cells.
Your comment bears upon a profound matter that is hard to explain. Here's my best effort: I think the primary purpose of the location is to provide isolation from the world. The isolated location *is* beautiful, but being beautiful isn't it's real purpose. The monks live out an extreme asceticism that wouldn't be very much concerned with enjoying beauty in physical objects. They are looking for a much deeper beauty, the kind that requires disciplining the senses, rather than indulging them.
@@tdexter4959 I think you must be right. It’s hard to remember that many monastic orders were founded at a time when people didn’t take much account of natural beauty. It just looks so odd to a 21st century sensibility.
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So they create there own prisons? How do they fund this?
To the monks, this place is where they devote their life strictly to self-isolation in prayer to god.
They do take on other tasks, kitchen, laundry, garden even some building maintenance, as can be observed at the 3:50 second of the video.
For a lot of people spend most of their hours in small little houses in prying this would be a prison.
The design of the Charterhouse is by a French architect, Clovis Normand in 1873.
I'm not sure how they get the funds to build St Hugh's Charterhouse, but I imagine it in the same way other churches and religious buildings get built.
@@photonatureengland8895 from what I’ve learnt, each monk spends time everyday making something in his cell house to sell to contribute to the funds for the monastery
@@eleanorel5918 Interesting. There are pictures showing some of the activities that the monk have done.
They work. Each cell had two floors one room for living/praying/study and one room that is a workshop. Then they each have a personal garden where they grow things. They also have other gardens and workshops in common (community) areas. The original charterhouse own the secret recipe for the chartusian liquor that is produced outside the monastery - a monk come to add the last secret ingrediences for each batch.
Originally each charterhouse had two "sets" of brothers. First the ones leading their hermit-community life - they remain today. And secondly a very nearby house with what was called laybrothers who lived the same spirituality but without the strict isolation. This second group of brothers took care of the greater part of the contact with the outer world and tasks that needed to be done there.
Today I would guess there are "friend-organisatons" of some kind that help the brothers in different ways and share in their spirituality. But that is my guess only.
"Prison" for those actually in prison, is imposed on someone caught, tried and convicted of wrong doing. This is a self-imposed retreat from the world FOR the world, and for them it is sanctuary, a place of extreme peace and unity with God for the benefit of all in the world. I think, to them, "prison" would be to be forced out of their chosen way of life.
God bless!
Not so discreet. Respect for the silence and the private from thé monks. It is a real pleage to take your drone and fly over everything.
I was flying my little drone discreetly around 100m high
so, it's not likely that any of the monks outside would have noticed.
And if they were inside at prayer they would not hear the drone.
I saw the monastery for many years when walking in the south down.
It is a pledge to get a good view, of the monastery as I was inquisitive and I learn a lot more about the monastery.
@@photonatureengland8895 Okay, but discreet has to do with basic respect for others property, high or not. I don't SEE satelites but they see everything !!. Thanks for response.🧐🧐🌍🛰️📡
I can just see a monk running out with a shot gun muttering " probably some darn protestant!!😂😂
Will be much better if you can show within and inside this beautiful dan solitary place.
For sure I cannot live this kind of life. They are special.
If you go to the links, you can see some of the inside of the Monks Oratory.
And then one day I realised I did not know who I was talking to but He who was listening to me was God.
you do know words are free - beautiful opportunity lost - sad - try again -
La catedral❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😅😅😅😅😅
Do they eat meat
It is modern only eat vegetables
They will never eat meat again
💚💚💚
Fish and eggs only
@@anthonylangford7797 thanks for the reply, however i can show you a video of Cisterian monks Not eating meat, fish nor eggs
Horrible music. Gregorian chant would have been more suitable.
The Music I had was the only music, I had at the time. It may have been better suited to the monetary music.
I also have to see what music I can use as UA-cam will automatically say it is copyrighted.
@@photonatureengland8895Thank you for making the video. The monastery is very impressive. Nice to have a recent documentation of it too. Good luck in the future.
no, music was fine.
This is great music. Chant is grand too.
New churcht
Wonderful film but totally awful and inappropriate music. I turned it off in the end.
Hi. Which of the 3 different music pieces in this video did you not like? The First was Teardrop sky' Second - Begin Again Third was Butterfly.
I had a limited stock of music at the time so it was quite difficult to get find music to suit the videos.
I now use music from epidemicsound.com to fine better music for video.
@@photonatureengland8895 the music, to me, was good.
My guess is that others wanted Gregorian chant.
J. S. Bach, Haydn, or Palestrina could be other choices.
Good job respecting the contemplation.
@@photonatureengland8895I really enjoyed the music .. gave the right feel to what we are seeing.
There's nothing more annoying than the buzzing of a drone. Even worse is the peeping-Tom drone over an enclosed monastery. Disgusting to disturb and intrude on people trying to pray.
It is unlike that they notice this drone or could even hear it. As it was more than 100m above the monastery. And also I was not flying right up to the building itself. In other words, In my mind, there is no difference between me taking photos with my hand-held camera or with a drone. And I've photographed many churches and monasteries.
I don't know how they stand it.
They are very well adjusted it seems. They do meet together, they are not complete hermits. There is a very lengthy and careful period of discernment, a few become postulants. Most of the postulants drop out only one in nine become novices and of those only one in four become choir monks. The application process looks at emotional stability amongst other factors. The ones who get through as choir and lay monks are well adjusted healthy and well suited to a life of prayer and study. They seem to be very happy and healthy. But yes, it's not for the majority of us, we do not have the desire, stamina ability or circumstances for it. God bless them.
@@davidtombs7385 And of course what is paramount is that you are called to it. It is a rare vocation, and not all those who are attracted to it are able to persevere to the end. I was one of the many who tried and sadly had to accept that it was not form me. As a priest told me once, "the good that we wish to do is not always the good that God wants us to do." If I had stayed I probably would be one of the most senior lay brothers by now as I wold have had my golden jubilee of profession.
@@paulbastier3773 It is indeed a rare vocation. Presumably, the journey that you undertook still gave you, and God, a great deal. Thank you for writing, yours is a rare account too.
You will never know
Reverent minds succeed.
I wouldn't want anyone praying for me thats a presupposition.your "prayers" are un welcome I can pray for myself more effective efficiently.
Well don't yammer about it; DO IT!
You think?
ma è stupendo