Experience is a great teacher if we can survive the trials and tribulations. Mary has become a philosopher. It is remarkable how blind and ignorant society in general has become. We keep making the same mistakes over and over. Is that progress?
What a great conversation! Progress, to me, could only mean an elevation of Consciousness. Not to overcome or conquer our humanity, but to align it more deeply with God or Nature...which in my own exploration, is the same thing.
Great interview guys. Good questions probing areas that others have missed and whipping those Lewis Abolition of Man quotes out at 43:00 was *chef's kiss*. I felt like they were so good they deserved a bit more discussion (!) but perhaps for another time.
Harrington reminds me so much of G K Chesterton: it _just so happens_ that her criticism culminates in a position strikingly, if not perfectly, consonant with traditional Catholic teaching, as GKC describes his own experience.
This is what real feminism sounds like . supremely intelligent ,with regards to the question posed on the thumbnail , we don't really know what we are where we are or what we're doing or why we just think we do 😂
“Occupy ourselves! We are our bodies.” Marrrrrrry!!!! Mama. Yes 🙌 Mary, You are so smart that I am embarrassed to use emojis when I comment on your videos. All the proper feminists have drilled into me that only dumb women use emojis and internet speak, but I want these ideas to be memed and go viral. And instinctually i just blurt, “yaasss Kween!” 😂 These ideas are not to be performed. These ideas deserve to be shared and expressed unashamedly, not afraid of the woke internet mob and not afraid of the intellectual feminist elite who would have us all writing like we want our internet comments to hold up to academic scrutiny.
To not believe in progress in this sense, I suppose is to assume there is a finite range of what people can be. It can be made better, but when it finally gets good, that is where it stays. It is not an infinite path, and to believe in it as an infinite path distracts one from that which is needed.
Great conversation, thank you both. As an important aside, technology originated through Cain in the Biblical account. Something to think about. God be with you both and your families.
I remember going to my female GP and asking her for an alternative method of contraception as I had made the choice to come off the pill. I was treated like a stupid child. She was very rude to me and very angry, almost as if I had insulted her! I guess even 35 years ago I was a heretic.
Some philosopher whose name I forgot believed that the proportions of good and evil in the world always remains the same. Unprovable, of course, but it seems right to me.
I wish people would stop talking about women's " careers ". Most women do a job, often a dull job. Definitely a job that is no where near as worthwhile as motherhood. Also, women working have upped the prices that are complained about such as housing costs.
My partner was also blessed with not needing to go back to the paid force workforce. She resented me intensely for my ability to meet others (at work!) Articulated that loudly and frequently. And upon arrival at home at say 630/700 she would waltz out of the door to yoga or somesuch. Trilling - the children need feeding and bathing and then you can read them a book. Aren't you lucky that I left these opportunities for you?
Water, it has been observed, does run two ways. Wild Salmon use this to swim back to where they hatched......its a natural process although counter-intuitive.
From an other interview, she is anti-abortion but doesn’t think it should be illegal immediately because everything is oriented toward abortion, it would immiserate women
The reason why people believe they will become immortal if they upload their mind, is because the mind do not exist when humans sleep and do not dream. And when they wake up the next day, a copy of the mind they had before falling asleep is created with the data of their mind contained in their neurons. Therefore, when you upload your mind in a dreamless sleep state and move it a computer or another body, as long as you never wake up in your original body, no new copy of your mind can be created in your brain. Making the uploaded version the only you that exist. And this you can have a body that never die, as powerful as Goku or of a different gender than you.
How does one define progress. Slavery was once a fruit of progress ? Very primitive society did not have slavery . Confinement of women especially widow burning , foot binding , etc were also fruits of progress
Progress isnt linear, its circular, and progress never benifits everyone at the same time or immediately. Mary Harringon is very interesting from the point of view of opening up the middle class psyche, but non of this is particularly news to the rest of us,
Describe the future state of progress and what impetus do we have to achieve it? Are we all on the same page or are people marching toward something undefined?
"We are not our bodies, but they are ours for our aole use" is the contenporary default assumption. René des Cartes made this claim 200 years ago, and it alliwed medical science to indulge in many "transhuman" activities. Starting with human disection and ending with surrogacy. But as Mary points out it is prone to being exploited at the cost of the less well endowed (poor women being her example). It seems the issue is a question of law enforcement isn't it? Mary's case is so easily explained that it makes the sacrisanct status of the individual and their body self evident doesn't it? I don't agree with transhumanism, but I do see that without a concomitant cosmology, a moral structure based upon the values which ynavoidably arise in and between human beings, we have little in our arsenal of udeas to protect the sacred with. Religion, or fairh in principles at the very least is unavoidable.
One thing that puzzles me here is that this woman is clearly VERY clever, she is quite clearly a philosopher of the highest calibre. So how could she EVER have been, even at a young impressionable age, a member of some kind of Marxist feminist commune and trying to live out that dehumanizing lifestyle ? I think she would have always been clever, so why would she have found herself in such a farcical lifestyle at ANY point in her life, without immediately realizing its utmost folly ? It just seems puzzling.
I'll stick with human progress, Mary; you need to at least look at recent history--education, general wealth, medicine, longevity, etc. etc. The list is long. Dont get trendy on us.
@@SpeakLifeMedia You do not see it? You are blinded. I pray you see it in time. Get back to your first love and I am confident you will see it. In Christ Jesus the foundation of all truth and life. His Word is never void.
@@HearGodsWord It may take a while. It took me 13 years to see through the world's lies. In time the Holy Ghost will reveal more lies to me that have been about for a long time!
Had she a more soft, pleasant way of speaking her points would be communicated far better. Perhaps recover from that cold before going on any more podcasts, too.
@@anomietoponymie2140 Wait, so something negative said about someone who happens to be a woman is ipso facto misogynist? Are you nuts? I’d say the same of a man.
I thought she was perfectly comprehensible and a more “soft, pleasent way of speaking” would have seemed disenginuous due to the serious nature of the subject matter
She communicates very clearly and effectively. As far as I'm concerned, her communication is fine. She's talking about very serious issues, so what good would it do by speaking in a more 'soft' and 'pleasant' way?
Mary has been hitting the podcast scene hard in the last couple weeks and it's been wonderful
I find her very engaging. There’s a depth of thought that I hadn’t got to yet… layers I had yet to peel.
Experience is a great teacher if we can survive the trials and tribulations. Mary has become a philosopher. It is remarkable how blind and ignorant society in general has become. We keep making the same mistakes over and over. Is that progress?
Best of her book launch appearances. Thanks Glen.
What a great conversation! Progress, to me, could only mean an elevation of Consciousness. Not to overcome or conquer our humanity, but to align it more deeply with God or Nature...which in my own exploration, is the same thing.
This woman! Her 'reactionary feminism' is spot on. I find myself in agreement with her articulation of the issues.
Great interview guys. Good questions probing areas that others have missed and whipping those Lewis Abolition of Man quotes out at 43:00 was *chef's kiss*. I felt like they were so good they deserved a bit more discussion (!) but perhaps for another time.
Wow, love this interviewer! And a Christian! Subscribed, thank you!
Wow, really starting off great!
Thanks Paul. Mary is amazing. “The Cyborg Theocracy of Meat Lego Gnosticism…!” Talk about drinking from a fire hose!
The last 1/4 is incredible.
A wonderful conversation. Thank you very much to both of you.
❤️💚💜Thaaannnk Yooouuu ❤️ 💚 💜
Stay Awake Not Woke !!!
Harrington reminds me so much of G K Chesterton: it _just so happens_ that her criticism culminates in a position strikingly, if not perfectly, consonant with traditional Catholic teaching, as GKC describes his own experience.
Great interview. I did not realize that Mary was a Christian believer. It would be interesting hear her discuss that part of her life journey.
God bless you
We are our body...body's got attributes and attributes demands responsibility💗
I’m pretty sure that Mary Harrington will take her place among the great philosophers in history
Philosopher?
"We are our Bodies. We are our Bodies." ~MH
God bless you guys great work both of you
This is what real feminism sounds like . supremely intelligent ,with regards to the question posed on the thumbnail , we don't really know what we are where we are or what we're doing or why we just think we do 😂
“Occupy ourselves! We are our bodies.” Marrrrrrry!!!! Mama. Yes 🙌
Mary, You are so smart that I am embarrassed to use emojis when I comment on your videos. All the proper feminists have drilled into me that only dumb women use emojis and internet speak, but I want these ideas to be memed and go viral. And instinctually i just blurt, “yaasss Kween!” 😂
These ideas are not to be performed. These ideas deserve to be shared and expressed unashamedly, not afraid of the woke internet mob and not afraid of the intellectual feminist elite who would have us all writing like we want our internet comments to hold up to academic scrutiny.
To not believe in progress in this sense, I suppose is to assume there is a finite range of what people can be. It can be made better, but when it finally gets good, that is where it stays. It is not an infinite path, and to believe in it as an infinite path distracts one from that which is needed.
People's bliss and interests does not matter. Progress must go on. Development of technology and power of iver-system is a goal of itself.
Great conversation, thank you both. As an important aside, technology originated through Cain in the Biblical account. Something to think about. God be with you both and your families.
I would love to see a conversation between Mary and John Micheal Greer
I absoI absolutely love "Meat Lego Gnostics" as a descriptor. 😂
Insightful intelligent commentator in a sea of nonsense .
Ape meat suit wow amazing discussion very deep and thought provoking Mary is very special .
I remember going to my female GP and asking her for an alternative method of contraception as I had made the choice to come off the pill. I was treated like a stupid child. She was very rude to me and very angry, almost as if I had insulted her!
I guess even 35 years ago I was a heretic.
Some philosopher whose name I forgot believed that the proportions of good and evil in the world always remains the same. Unprovable, of course, but it seems right to me.
I wish people would stop talking about women's " careers ". Most women do a job, often a dull job. Definitely a job that is no where near
as worthwhile as motherhood. Also, women working have upped the prices that are complained about such as housing costs.
Whatta Dame! Vaya con Dios, dear Mary!!!
Are we human, or are we dancers?
Because the Catholic Church forbids contraception it has supported natural family planning methods for several generations.
Thanks for bringing this to my attention guys.
My partner was also blessed with not needing to go back to the paid force workforce.
She resented me intensely for my ability to meet others (at work!)
Articulated that loudly and frequently.
And upon arrival at home at say 630/700 she would waltz out of the door to yoga or somesuch.
Trilling - the children need feeding and bathing and then you can read them a book. Aren't you lucky that I left these opportunities for you?
Water, it has been observed, does run two ways. Wild Salmon use this to swim back to where they hatched......its a natural process although counter-intuitive.
What's her view on abortion?
From an other interview, she is anti-abortion but doesn’t think it should be illegal immediately because everything is oriented toward abortion, it would immiserate women
The reason why people believe they will become immortal if they upload their mind, is because the mind do not exist when humans sleep and do not dream. And when they wake up the next day, a copy of the mind they had before falling asleep is created with the data of their mind contained in their neurons. Therefore, when you upload your mind in a dreamless sleep state and move it a computer or another body, as long as you never wake up in your original body, no new copy of your mind can be created in your brain. Making the uploaded version the only you that exist.
And this you can have a body that never die, as powerful as Goku or of a different gender than you.
Ok, now I really want to hear her personal story that she didn't want to bore us with...
Or are we dancers?
👌🏻
How does one define progress. Slavery was once a fruit of progress ? Very primitive society did not have slavery . Confinement of women especially widow burning , foot binding , etc were also fruits of progress
Progress isnt linear, its circular, and progress never benifits everyone at the same time or immediately. Mary Harringon is very interesting from the point of view of opening up the middle class psyche, but non of this is particularly news to the rest of us,
Describe the future state of progress and what impetus do we have to achieve it? Are we all on the same page or are people marching toward something undefined?
What kind of Person would call a Ape Brain Meat sac to this Marvellous Brilliant Consciousness Intelligence that Is the Human Body ???
"We are not our bodies, but they are ours for our aole use" is the contenporary default assumption.
René des Cartes made this claim 200 years ago, and it alliwed medical science to indulge in many "transhuman" activities.
Starting with human disection and ending with surrogacy. But as Mary points out it is prone to being exploited at the cost of the less well endowed (poor women being her example).
It seems the issue is a question of law enforcement isn't it? Mary's case is so easily explained that it makes the sacrisanct status of the individual and their body self evident doesn't it?
I don't agree with transhumanism, but I do see that without a concomitant cosmology, a moral structure based upon the values which ynavoidably arise in and between human beings, we have little in our arsenal of udeas to protect the sacred with.
Religion, or fairh in principles at the very least is unavoidable.
Do you know that you're referencing 4 e cognitive science every time you mention embedded & embodied?!
One thing that puzzles me here is that this woman is clearly VERY clever, she is quite clearly a philosopher of the highest calibre. So how could she EVER have been, even at a young impressionable age, a member of some kind of Marxist feminist commune and trying to live out that dehumanizing lifestyle ? I think she would have always been clever, so why would she have found herself in such a farcical lifestyle at ANY point in her life, without immediately realizing its utmost folly ? It just seems puzzling.
Because Wisdom often only comes after experiencing the consequences of its opposite.
Love Mary, but i think she's wrong. We are more than our bodies. Sting puts it more succinctly- we are spirits, in a material world.
I think a better description is that humans are embodied spirits. Our body and our spirit are important and should be treated as such.
I'll stick with human progress, Mary; you need to at least look at recent history--education, general wealth, medicine, longevity, etc. etc. The list is long.
Dont get trendy on us.
No, we're not. We're pricks.
This woman is speaking at National *Conservatism* conferences? Dear lord.
What's wrong with that?
Why does a Christian (I thought you were) have this lying title?
Where’s the lie?
@@SpeakLifeMedia You do not see it? You are blinded. I pray you see it in time. Get back to your first love and I am confident you will see it. In Christ Jesus the foundation of all truth and life. His Word is never void.
Still looking for the "lying title" Paul...
@@HearGodsWord It may take a while. It took me 13 years to see through the world's lies. In time the Holy Ghost will reveal more lies to me that have been about for a long time!
@Paul Williamson so she doesn't have a lying title then as you claimed she did but then can't show it 🤷
Had she a more soft, pleasant way of speaking her points would be communicated far better. Perhaps recover from that cold before going on any more podcasts, too.
That's a nasty, mean thing to say and misogynistic to boot. Should she bat her eyelashes as well and blush?
@@anomietoponymie2140 Wait, so something negative said about someone who happens to be a woman is ipso facto misogynist? Are you nuts? I’d say the same of a man.
I thought she was perfectly comprehensible and a more “soft, pleasent way of speaking” would have seemed disenginuous due to the serious nature of the subject matter
She communicates very clearly and effectively. As far as I'm concerned, her communication is fine. She's talking about very serious issues, so what good would it do by speaking in a more 'soft' and 'pleasant' way?