Yahara v Kagawa

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  • @MMilon
    @MMilon 16 років тому +21

    These guys are the REAL karate-ka, not the ballet dancers nowadays.

  • @xaven8168
    @xaven8168 10 років тому +63

    Those were the days. Good, hard and direct kumite. Today we have WKF, much shouting and too many "show". I am glad that some dojos still practice hard Karate, even if nobody knows them really...

    • @AspiringSanta
      @AspiringSanta 8 років тому +2

      WKF looks like garbage to me and this looks almost exactly the same.

    • @xaven8168
      @xaven8168 8 років тому +9

      AspiringSanta Well, you need to have some clue about Karate to see it.

    • @konstantinos8868
      @konstantinos8868 3 роки тому +3

      @@AspiringSanta and you know nothing about martial arts and real direct fights👌🏼

    • @AspiringSanta
      @AspiringSanta 3 роки тому

      @@konstantinos8868 Agree to disagree. 10 plus years of actual full contact karate and growing up in a shitty neighborhood. Overstylized uniform factories are a direct result of the japanisation of karate, but keep paying your membership fees and deluding yourself into thinking you cam fight much less defend yourself because you did some kumite and maybe got that 1 anecdote about putting some drunk in his place or whatever bs you semi contact bullshitters pull out of your ass when called out :D

    • @thomaskwiatkowskiesq.328
      @thomaskwiatkowskiesq.328 3 роки тому +4

      @@AspiringSanta Dude, shows how little you know about JKA style Shotokan. Yahara was involved in tens if not hundreds of fights with hardened yakuza thugs, and even had his own security company which assisted both corporations and municipal governments in dealing with organized crime. This is not a legend but a well known fact that caused him a lot of problems with some JKA bosses.

  • @euabcde
    @euabcde 6 років тому +12

    Isso é que era karatê...não o que vemos hoje ballet clássico sem impacto só alisa alisa sem finalização.
    Saudade dos bons tempos.

    • @pablogastao
      @pablogastao Рік тому

      estou de acordo só acho que era melhor controlar mais o golpe na cara nao um lenhaço, assim nao seria tao destrutivo

  • @rosh5924
    @rosh5924 7 років тому +2

    1 in a million match up between 2 of JKA's legendary tigers. Karate has always been one of the stepping stones of some great MMA fighters. The rules of JKA has been known as one of the hardest. You only have 3 mins and if you got 3 points before the times up, then you won the bout.

  • @Derukugi2
    @Derukugi2 16 років тому +14

    Look, I wasn`t try to brag. I just happened to live in Tokyo and sign up at the nearest Karate dojo... which (unbeknowst to me) was the JKA hombu at the time. So my teachers where Kagawa, Abe, Yamaguchi, Richard Amos, Isaka, etc etc.
    Saying I was sparring with Kagawa would be misleading; more like being allowed to take some potshots which he laughed off.
    Still, I got to see what power these guys have. Seeking Kagawa warming by kicking the sandbag to the ceiling is something you don´t forget.

    • @BooLee01
      @BooLee01 8 місяців тому +2

      Same here. I was in a JKA affiliate in the US. Moved to Japan with my Japanese wife and took a job in Ebisu. What luck. five minutes walk from work and I was there. All the same Sensei you mentioned, along with Imamura, Shiina, Aramoto (RIP), Isaka, and Kanayama.
      Here's a really long story so I'll preface it with TLDR: Shiina Sensei made Kanayama Sensei beat up a black belt who was bullying lower belts.
      The Story:
      It was in the JKA Hombu Dojo in Ebisu. Shiina Sensei was teaching and Kanayama Sensei was assisting--you know, walking around correcting people in class. There was a black belt who had come from some Middle Eastern country, I don't remember which. He had one of those old beat-up black belts that were so worn and so frayed that they look white, as if he'd been wearing it for a decade or more. He kept hitting lower (white, green, blue, purple) belts in the face with way too much contact. Shiina Sensei told him to stop. He said, "Osu" but kept on doing it. Shiina Sensei warned him three or four more times, but he kept doing it.
      Then Shiina Sensei said, "We're going to practice Kumite. First you (pointing to the black belt) and . . . uh . . . you (pointing to Kanayama Sensei. They squared up and Shiina Sensei said, "Hajime!" Kanayama Sensei sprang forward, popped the guy in the mouth with a solid Oizuki and then walked away looking victorious, the way it usually happens in sun-dome (point) matches. But Shiina Sensei said, "I didn't say 'Yame'" So Kanayama Sensei sprang back into action: pop! Pop! Pop! Three more hits to the face. Then he backed off. Shiina Sensei said, "I still didn't say 'Yame!'" Then Kanayama Sensei finally got the message. He jumped on that guy and starting pounding the shit out of him. Before long, the guy was curled up in a ball on the floor and Kanayama Sensei was still punching him. After what seemed like a really long time, Shiina Sensei said, in a very soft, very calm, low voice, "yame."
      After a couple of minutes, the bloody black belt stood up. Shiina Sensei looked at him and said, "Wakatta?" The black belt replied, "Osu." He never hit another person that night and I never saw him in class again.

    • @david-pb4bi
      @david-pb4bi 6 місяців тому

      Exactly, I trained in Liverpool and sort of spared with Frank Brennan.

    • @wallyllaw
      @wallyllaw 3 дні тому

      @@BooLee01 Fashinating story, thanks! Too bad Kanayama and many others did left for other organizations, but at least Shiina is still in JKA.

  • @bondarev42
    @bondarev42  18 років тому +9

    It is from 1984 -- Yahara's last competition appearance.

  • @lukkiop
    @lukkiop 16 років тому +3

    yahara executed the best jab ive ever seen at the start of the video i learned a lot from this video thanks a million for posting

  • @rallyivan1234
    @rallyivan1234 10 років тому +15

    Best traditional kumite ever!
    Respect both senseis...
    OSS!!

  • @longrider241
    @longrider241 4 роки тому +3

    This ist for me true Karate Kumite. Yahara and Kagawa is a great fighter.

  • @MrMikeod
    @MrMikeod 15 років тому +1

    yes, yamaguchi sensei did the jka instructors course. he left with kagawa, ishimine, asai, kanayama to form jks. yamaguchi was 5 times all japan champion. adept at both kumite and kata.he trains everyday, taking classes, instructors courses,seminars.essentially the technical director-if you get a chance to see him he is excellent.

  • @Br4m76
    @Br4m76 4 роки тому +5

    Kagawa sensei is the coach of Japan karate national team nowadays.

  • @Jose-kj2er
    @Jose-kj2er 3 місяці тому

    Ya quedan menos maestros tan grandes como ellos era una época de grandes maestros.

  • @tsivhar
    @tsivhar 16 років тому +2

    These are 2 of the very greatest technicians. Watch other clips of teachings and demos and that much is clear. They have each reached the absolute zenith of skill. On this clip remember it is purely ritualized combat, not a street fight. Trust me that even at 70, these would be the last men on earth to tangle with.

  • @Derukugi2
    @Derukugi2 16 років тому +4

    He is not only alive, he is kicking. Running his own JKA style dojo in Tokyo (in Shirokane) and running his security business at the same time.
    If sign up, you can train with him.

  • @ВладимирБорисовичЕршов

    Прекрасные мастера каратэ СЕТОКАН. Если я не ошибаюсь рефери один из легендарных мастеров. СЕТОКАН. Тетсухико Асаи.

    • @BooLee01
      @BooLee01 8 місяців тому

      Sadly, Asai Sensei is no longer with us, but if you search UA-cam for Hoshimi Asai, you'll see that his daughter is very much active in the Karate world, though not in the JKA.

  • @keyvangazi9982
    @keyvangazi9982 8 років тому +13

    PERHAPS YOU CAN WIN THEM IN ANY SPORT COMBAT, BUT PLEASE DONT TRY THESE MASTERS IN STREET. THEY CANT LOOSE

    • @linojakobsen7737
      @linojakobsen7737 4 роки тому

      @AI True. I also find it very confusing why you get points for this and not for another punch. I used to work at the door in a city where the whole doorman community was mainly Shotokan. Training buddies of mine also sparred with Kagawa, Tanaka, and a few others of the top brass JKA. They are certainly not fake.

    • @linojakobsen7737
      @linojakobsen7737 4 роки тому

      To me Yahara was the winner here.

  • @isacjunior2780
    @isacjunior2780 4 роки тому +1

    Great video! Both fighters are excelent.

  • @pg86
    @pg86 16 років тому +2

    I been training since 7 and I know not to step in the ring with those guys even today!
    Yahara will tear you apart son

  • @shin.training-channel
    @shin.training-channel 2 роки тому +1

    The aim of Sensei Kagawa was winning the game.
    And the aim of Sensei Yahara was winning the battle.

  • @Derukugi2
    @Derukugi2 16 років тому +8

    Both of these guys are legends in Shotokan.
    You think they are fake, try sparring with Kagawa. (I have.)

    • @thelastwolffe2167
      @thelastwolffe2167 4 роки тому

      @D R Lmao, OP was 12 years ago. I wonder if he's gonna reply. lol.

    • @TheRogueSquid
      @TheRogueSquid 2 роки тому

      Both would mess you up.

  • @КокульбекАйтикеев
    @КокульбекАйтикеев 4 роки тому +1

    Мастер Микио Яхара каждый раз бился, как будто в последний раз. Как будто...От поединка зависела его жизнь и сдаваться он не собирался любой ценой.

  • @shotokanperu
    @shotokanperu 18 років тому +1

    De hecho el estilo del sensei Kagawa es impecable,ordenado,conserva la esencia y elegancia del Shotokan JKA tradicional ganarle a otro grande como Yahara lo demuestra.

  • @maofas
    @maofas 13 років тому +1

    @555hansy It's a combination of Goju and Shotokan. I think the more varied kicking developed as a result of not being able to use hands to opponent's heads, which forced them to get more creative with their legs.

  • @ДмитрийРогов-з3ц
    @ДмитрийРогов-з3ц 5 років тому +1

    Хорошие мастера!!! Классика , традиция.

  • @ezialadiyat6987
    @ezialadiyat6987 7 років тому +1

    The Legend of Karate

    • @fadialsafadi6056
      @fadialsafadi6056 4 роки тому

      EZI AL 'ADIYAT in such fight, what is the rank of these players? How many dan?

  • @yuusama5203
    @yuusama5203 3 роки тому +1

    日本空手協会のレジェンド二人。この人達が大道塾の大会に出場したら、相手を倒せる様な空手が出来ただろうか。中段で技ありが取れるなら、中段に当たったら効かせられる位の威力は本当にあったのだろうか。当てない空手には、常にそういった疑問がついてまわる。

  • @CLEMJOL
    @CLEMJOL 16 років тому +1

    THANKS MAN

  • @Derukugi2
    @Derukugi2 16 років тому +1

    Stupid comment. This is Shotokan, you genius. The idea is to pull the punches in the last second, which these guys do with amazing control. This is not Kyokushin, where they punch full force, but spare the head (unrealistic).
    Still, people do get hit in Shotokan and are supposed to eat it without complaining.

  • @ROCKY44
    @ROCKY44 18 років тому +3

    Wow, awesome fight. Thanks.

  • @johnh6532
    @johnh6532 2 роки тому

    Two of the very best ever.

  • @profeso07
    @profeso07 13 років тому +2

    Great video !

  • @PaulParrish-c3m
    @PaulParrish-c3m 7 місяців тому

    Kagawa's absolutely brilliant.

  • @lukkiop
    @lukkiop 16 років тому +1

    thats awesome kagawa's a true legend.

  • @phantomspiritxx
    @phantomspiritxx 3 роки тому +1

    Yahara scored an ippon to the neck ,but was not given, as too fast..Yahara wins...But two of the greatest JKA fighters..

    • @pdesbois69
      @pdesbois69 Рік тому

      I was gonna ask this question. I am not a competition practitioner, and have no idea what rules are or used to be... but why was Yahara's opening jodan that cut Kagawa's lip (right in the beginning) considered an Ippon? Was it because he slipped ?
      Thank you.

  • @lukkiop
    @lukkiop 16 років тому +2

    and you lived to tell about it? Amazing!

  • @ClaudiuDinu
    @ClaudiuDinu 18 років тому +1

    Kagawa sensei's style to fight is great!

  • @justinstuart8382
    @justinstuart8382 6 років тому +11

    It's funny both these men have superb techniques as I've seen them train. Then the face off, all goes to pot and out the window and not a decent technique in sight. Goes to prove when faced with the pressure and fear of the fight all training is lost and basic instinct takes over, this has happened to me also. All goes to jelly....

    • @johnmortimerjbmfitness7753
      @johnmortimerjbmfitness7753 6 років тому +2

      Yes and no. I mean they are having to pull alot of punches and techniques as its not full contact. At the same time they are still very fast and their timing is still very good.

    • @hibiki28
      @hibiki28 4 роки тому

      Its knowledge of the competition your oponent is equally skilled and if you think to do a big technique you have the risk of being hit by a counter so better stick to the basics

  • @joseroberto6171
    @joseroberto6171 4 роки тому

    Os dois sensei sao excelentes lutadores 👏👏👏👏👏oss!!!

  • @karate-art2501
    @karate-art2501 9 років тому +4

    Awesome!

  • @CLEMJOL
    @CLEMJOL 16 років тому +1

    have a look at kagawa vs yamamoto. its brilliant

  • @Endymion2357
    @Endymion2357 13 років тому +1

    @becs5120 I had thought that it was unclear which was intended - due to no written records of the art (Naha-te, Shou-te etc) being kept, and the shared symbol for both 'Chinese' and 'empty' - until Gichin Funakoshi decided 'empty hand' fit better. I'm sure he gives his thoughts in Karate-Do Nyumon.

    • @siasti
      @siasti 4 роки тому

      I had one of his books when I was a teenager and practiced Shotokan for a few years. A truly impressive style!

  • @Unlucky13Lucky
    @Unlucky13Lucky 13 років тому

    @jin54363 I agree. He is another major contributing factor to the introduction of Karate to Japan.

  • @BunbuDojo
    @BunbuDojo 15 років тому +1

    You mean Gogen Yamaguchi Sensei, I meant Takashi Yamaguchi Sensei who is also ex-JKA. And followed Kagawa sensei to the JKS.
    I think he did his instructors course with the JKA? But I'm not sure.

  • @tiochel
    @tiochel 18 років тому

    He was an awesome man. RIP

  • @becs5120
    @becs5120 13 років тому

    @XxInvocationxX No...it means Chinese Hand..It was in the 1930's it became..."empty hand" when the Japanese changed it.....

  • @maofas
    @maofas 13 років тому

    @genious4real No, muay thai generally does not chamber the round kick. Some camps do, probably because of TKD influence (TKD is huge in Thailand), but when 99% of people say Muay Thai round kick they're picturing the no-chamber straight-leg.

  • @monkeyratul
    @monkeyratul 13 років тому +1

    if this is masayoshi kagawa then he is nearly 71 years and he still kicks my ass........ :'(

  • @DoomGuy-kf8fv
    @DoomGuy-kf8fv 10 місяців тому

    Yahara sensei won the fight Kagawa sensei won the game. Both knew it when they walked off the floor. Never let winning a competition be your reason for being there. It’s to test your timing and speed not play tag. I’m not knocking Kagawa sensei, I’m simply stating what took place here.

  • @CLEMJOL
    @CLEMJOL 16 років тому +3

    these men are not playing. they are just that good that they are able to strike with full kime and end 1mm of their intended target. Try fight them before disrespecting them, and be sure to have your plastic underpants on, cause you will s... yourself

  • @mlsanta3
    @mlsanta3 15 років тому +1

    Yahara, this is bad bad guy. I'd be very careful to have a kumite against him.

  • @BunbuDojo
    @BunbuDojo 15 років тому

    That's a very sweeping statement.
    The instructors course that Kagawa Sensei is the chief instructor for is taught by Yamaguchi Sensei - who some would consider a REAL karate-ka - his fights are just as hard core. Yamaguchi students, such as Nagaki or Nihey Sensei are just as tough to fight and watch. So I think Kagawa sensei has passed on his knowledge and ballet ways to the next generation. REAL Karate is still out there - change your club.
    Good training

  • @BunbuDojo
    @BunbuDojo 15 років тому

    Yes but Yamaguchi Sensei has done the instructors course and still does it every day - whereas most people do it and leave.
    Kagawa Sensei is chief instructor to the JKS.

  • @jluistl
    @jluistl 8 років тому +8

    Hai... Hai... Hai... Hai... Hai... Hai... Hai... Hai... Hai... Hai... Hai...

  • @evilasiosimoesbarbosa2554
    @evilasiosimoesbarbosa2554 4 роки тому +1

    Dois grandes lutadores, professores e mestres!!!

  • @hmeida25
    @hmeida25 15 років тому

    i really dont know...check at the JKA website

  • @pedrochavezmendez
    @pedrochavezmendez 14 років тому +1

    Best point Yahara´s kizami

  • @maofas
    @maofas 13 років тому

    @genious4real Obviously over time it evolved, but those were the two styles Oyama combined to initially create it. And while I do think Muay Thai had an influence, I don't think it was nearly as strong as some people assume. They already did lowkicks before Oyama sent his people over to Thailand. You can't clinch and knee under Kyokushin rules, which makes for different tactics. And if MT influenced their punching it sure doesn't come out in their ruleset.

  • @tiochel
    @tiochel 18 років тому +1

    Is that Asay (central judge)?

  • @Karatekahonorer
    @Karatekahonorer 13 років тому +1

    Clash of the masters

  • @phys1c
    @phys1c 15 років тому +1

    Legends

  • @Gman6755
    @Gman6755 Рік тому

    Was that Asai as the ref? Damn!!

  • @Unlucky13Lucky
    @Unlucky13Lucky 13 років тому

    @jin54363 First, Okinawa had their own style called Te (Hand) which was later influenced by their trade partners in China (Kung Fu). After Okinawa was invaded by Japan, this is where the major Japanese roots start. Those are the connections in a nutshell.

  • @jovelinasouza7551
    @jovelinasouza7551 6 років тому +1

    Kagawa the best !!

  • @hmeida25
    @hmeida25 15 років тому

    yes but sensei kagawa has done the JKA instructors course and "belonged" to the JKA i think...

  • @TheDigiDojo
    @TheDigiDojo 16 років тому +1

    Mr. Kagawa, judging by the raising arm of the referee at the end

  • @elbowslapper
    @elbowslapper 14 років тому +1

    @aiyer1989 I watched some videos of both those fighters. While they are both outstanding competitors and incredibly athletic, I fail to see why you think neither Yahara or Kagawa would be able to defeat them.

  • @charger089
    @charger089 16 років тому

    Yes, it's him.

  • @paulmodino7253
    @paulmodino7253 3 роки тому

    This is the classic fight

  • @中島毅-q6x
    @中島毅-q6x 3 роки тому

    エキシビジョンでもいいからカラテクター(防具)着けて闘わせて、実際に「当てられる」ことを世間にアピールしていたら“寸止め空手”のイメージも変わっていたんだろうな……

  • @becs5120
    @becs5120 13 років тому +1

    @Unlucky13Lucky Exactly.....

  • @Betsnipe
    @Betsnipe 17 років тому

    Okay, thx for the response ;)

  • @Endless314
    @Endless314 13 років тому

    @555hansy what jin54363 says is very! wrong.. karate means empty (kara) hand (te), so without weapons. it spread from okinawa to japan and after WWII it became popular in the west aswell, cause many american soliders were living on okinawa for many years. teakwondo is based on (shotokan)karate, but the style changed quite a bit; today its mostly about kicks, although it was about kicks, punches etc, just like karate. the different karate styles today mainly differ in terms of kata/kumite...

  • @555hansy
    @555hansy 13 років тому

    @jin54363 so in other words kyokushin is the combination of taekwondo ( korean martial art ) and shotokan ?

  • @brinnonvallere
    @brinnonvallere 15 років тому +1

    i luff luff luff luff the barefist contests......

  • @900nrg
    @900nrg 7 років тому +1

    if you cant knock down an opponent wih 1 o 2 at least tsukis or kicks then you're doing something wrong.... in this kumite we can see good technique maybe he touched his mouth but he controlled it the most he can otherwise rip teeths

  • @vsean2u
    @vsean2u 16 років тому

    kagawas got good strategy, he always aims for counters.

  • @555hansy
    @555hansy 13 років тому

    @jin54363 why didnt they use weapon then ? . i do not know anything abt shotokan . kyokushin practicer here sry

  • @salstream
    @salstream 17 років тому +1

    mmmm... if ever you get the chance to fight yahara sensei you will know you have been in a fight if you are lucky enough to wake up

  • @vaibhavpdspune4489
    @vaibhavpdspune4489 6 років тому

    which year?

  • @farkhodakhmetov
    @farkhodakhmetov Рік тому

    Super

  • @diosdadoapias
    @diosdadoapias 11 років тому +2

    ask also the boxers why they let their guards down when they they can be punch on their face. You can guard your face without putting your arms across your face.

    • @Simoelba99
      @Simoelba99 7 років тому

      dosdadio siapa strategy for sure.. They are 8th dan

  • @hmeida25
    @hmeida25 15 років тому

    uhm i see....we seem to be talking not of the same...there is was (dont know if he passed away) an Yamaguchi Sensei i think his nickname was the Cat...
    what i was trying to say is that Kagawa Sensei as the JKA karate school behind him, the same for Asai Sensei, so the techniques are equal...
    i never had the chance to train with Kagawa Sensei but i would like to even belonging to JKA.
    OSS

  • @555hansy
    @555hansy 13 років тому

    WHAT style of karate is tis ?

  • @egsgood3415
    @egsgood3415 Рік тому

    highest achieving true karate

  • @brayden12345
    @brayden12345 16 років тому

    gudging by the fact itself that you could reply that fast would mean your not taking the nessicary time to train to be good enough to win against such fast people. and im sorry, im not trying to be rude, but ive never heard of vale tudo, what do they focus on and what are their strengths? just for my own knowledge, please and thank you.

  • @milomilo4958
    @milomilo4958 8 років тому

    i cant focus in the kumite because of the voice of the guy saying: 'hai, hai, hai, hai'

  • @AliciaNamethvk
    @AliciaNamethvk 12 років тому +1

    can someone please tell me who won?

    • @BarryRussell2
      @BarryRussell2 6 років тому +1

      Alicia Nameth Kagawa Sensei won.

  • @josephmargaryan
    @josephmargaryan 8 років тому +1

    why only 2 minutes

  • @maofas
    @maofas 13 років тому

    @genious4real So what would you listen to? A link to a Kyokushin forum where various Kyokushin guys explain the difference between Kyokushin and Muay Thai round kick? A video of round kicks from Kyokushin tournaments where you can see chambers and no downward angle. Lol, just let me know.

  • @kasakstan643
    @kasakstan643 5 років тому

    Trisomie 21?

  • @Derukugi2
    @Derukugi2 16 років тому

    LOL... I served as his target practice. He does not go full throttle when sparring with lower ranks. (Still got some bruises though.)

  • @israelgicheney3200
    @israelgicheney3200 10 місяців тому

    Asai central referee ??

  • @PauloFrota82
    @PauloFrota82 12 років тому +1

    Shotokan.

  • @Yautja297
    @Yautja297 13 років тому

    @superjedimaster01 Karate was is meant to make you a better person...mastery of the spirit through mastery of the body, so isn't it kinda twisted to use it just for competition? Thats atleast my opinion

  • @pg86
    @pg86 16 років тому

    Guys...How bout that Oi zuki at the beginning...Fuckin godly! Great video

  • @atpforever1
    @atpforever1 16 років тому

    who won?

    • @fadialsafadi6056
      @fadialsafadi6056 4 роки тому

      atpforever1 yes i need to know who won the fight?

  • @lukkiop
    @lukkiop 16 років тому

    don't worry i didn't see it as you were bragging. More that you were just being open about your experiences training with the highest status of karateka.

  • @AERR9
    @AERR9 13 років тому

    @zakardo what's mean?

  • @AdnanCucak
    @AdnanCucak 15 років тому +1

    That was a strike !

  • @dannylane1349
    @dannylane1349 12 років тому +1

    Not sure why did don't guard their face when they know the other person is going to punch them in it.

    • @ikhwan83
      @ikhwan83 7 років тому +1

      Danny Lane if guard you face... lower part of you body open for enemy kicking...