Why My Sleeper 5.9 Limited Gets So Much Hate
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- Опубліковано 1 кві 2020
- **EDIT: At 3:14 I meant to say When UA-cam came out in late 2005 early 2006, not 2015 or 2016.
At 8:06 I meant to say N55 single turbo, not N54 which is twin turbo.**
People need to get more educated on this rare classic gem and stop hating on automotive excellence from the 1990s when times were good and vehicles were built to last, unlike today. - Авто та транспорт
I bought my 5.9 Zj for $800 too, best $800 bucks I ever spent!
I couldn't agree with you more
my dad bought one in 1998 so far it's still good in 2022 with no engine problems just a starter failure, I especially love it because it sounds like a bull
That's dope man, these Jeeps are built different than the new ones. ZJs are fast, loud, and reliable. This is why I own 2 of them, a heads/cam 5.2 ZJ and this full bolt on 5.9 ZJ. The only other Jeep I would possibly own would be the last 3 years of the WK1 SRT8. Trackhawks are cool, but at 5300 lbs it's not the one for me. I like the older V8 Jeeps that are smaller and lighter.
I bought my 5.9 for 1500 a dealer that didn’t know it was a 5.9 😂 his loss, my gain. Best runny vehicle I’ve ever owned. Awesome Jeep man!!
Thanks brother. How did they not know it was a 5.9 Limited ? Unless it was debadged it says it on both front doors, the rear liftgate, and under the hood on the vehicle information sticker. Some people are just too stupid to pay any attention to the finer details. How many miles were on it ? That is a great deal if it was running and driving.
98ZJ318 that was exactly the case. The dealer guys didn’t know what they had. To my advantage. Lol
I bought my 98 5.9 in 1998 for $32k. Still own it to this day. Recently did a 6.7 stroker kit, heads and cam. Still sorting it out but feels great.
That is too cool brother, that Heads/Cam 408 Stroker must pull like a freight train.
@@98ZJ318 Actually, I am going to be frank as it kinda sucks right now. It just felt slow after my first drive. 0-60 was horrible at about 5.8 seconds - so slow. The engine sounded great but felt really slow considering it should have about 450hp and 490tq. I took it to my local dyno and surprising I was making good power but I did have a dead spot in the rpm band where some custom tuning is needed to correct it. Still, I believe to optimize the power the engine is putting out I need to swap my differential gears from the 3.73 to something way more aggressive like 4.88. I don't care too much about losing some of my top end as I am not going to be going 140 mph too often in it, if ever. I also need to do some custom tuning on the dyno to finalize stuff and eliminate the dead spot where I drop power substantially. Probably in a month I should have it all sorted out and hopefully it feels a lot faster. I will let you know how it goes. Thanks brother.
@@madflysports8458 How things are going with your car mate? Hope the Stroker kit pulls good
My dad bought a white 5.9 almost brand new. We towed our four wheelers and went on many trips. That think was an absolute joy to floor from a dead stop, getting up to speed entering a highway, or when trying to get out in front of some traffic! 😁 I remember getting a super cars book in school and seeing our jeep being in it and thinking that was so cool!
The 12 miles to the gallon gas mileage was horrendous though, I guess it cost to have fun though. 😎
The 5.9 Limiteds are still my favorite all around Jeeps. They were the fastest SUV in the world from 1998 - 2003 (surpassed by BMW X5) and they were the fastest Jeep in the world from 1998 - 2006 (surpassed by the WK1 SRT8 Jeep). The 5.9 ZJ is still the meanest looking and best on and off road Jeep ever built. They are compact and lightweight for an SUV, they drive very well, they pull hard, and the 360 sounds incredible when it's modified for more power.
Love to see that car battery in a 5.9, I had the same bat and same stock paint
Yea brother, the Optima Yellow Top is the best battery if you have an audio system, subwoofers, remote start, and aftermarket lights. I also use one in my Heads/Cam 5.2 ZJ. They last 5 - 6 years as long as you use a battery tender when you don't drive for a week or more.
Great video! Love to see that it's been kept street and not modded for the trails. I bought my teen son a Niner as a first vehicle. Was super clean and he's had it for 3 years and says he'll keep it forever. We have 6 Grand Cherokees in family right now. Two 2015 Overlands. One Hemi one Diesel. Two 2008 Overlands. Both Hemis. One is mine and has a few upgrades. I have a 93 Limited V8 too that's got only 160k and mint condition. Got it last month as garage find, one owner old man. Rustproofing since new and 90% original parts. My mechanic was shocked how clean it is. Love the original clean style of the ZJ too. Never made a video but maybe when the weather is nice I'll show them off. With any luck by then I'll find another clean Niner to save. Happy motoring and safe travels.
Damn dude, you really love Jeeps. Sounds like you have a very nice collection of ZJs, WJs, and WK1s. A 1993 ZJ with 160,000 miles is extremely low for a 27 year old vehicle. A Niner is such a good first vehicle. I wish I got my Niner before my 5.2, I would have done heads/cam to the 5.9 ZJ and it would have made 400 HP to the crank instead of 370 or 380 HP on the built 5.2 ZJ. The only other Jeep I would want to get in the future is the WK1 SRT8 with the 6.1L Hemi. I was in one once, they are just as a fully built ZJ when they are fully stock and they weigh 4,800 lbs. the Trackhawks weigh 5,300 lbs, that’s too much weight. I would rather Hellcat swap a ZJ then have a Trackhawk, ZJs only weight around 4,000 lbs, they are very light for an SUV. That is what I like the most about ZJs, lightweight SUV with a big pushrod V8 with 4WD and RWD option when you do the transfer case swap. Happy and healthy holidays and New Years to you and yours brother. Stay blessed.
@@98ZJ318 Hey thanks for the reply. To be honest I'm not a mechanic and know basic about vehicles but I know what I like. I watch videos like yours and others and mod according to the best ideas people have. I wish I could be that gear head but that's not me. It's down to the love of a vehicle and it's ability. For me the GC checks all the boxes. At the end of the day I see them as an MMA fighter. Not the best at one thing but amazing at all. Besides anyone who has issues just doesn't take care of their stuff. Nothing lasts forever but things can definitely last a lifetime and we hope to do that with these ones. Unfortunately winter is a bitch whore and salt is her crack addict sister and they both have rusty desires on vehicles in my area. And the 93 ZJ has only 160,000kms not miles. That just 99420 miles! I think it's probably the lowest mileage one I've seen anywhere lately. Total time capsule.
Mine's got you beat by a little bit, its sitting in the driveway here in the Mojave desert in Ca. With 90,000 ml on the odometer, she's about to get heads and a cam and yes she is lifted on 33's with a 4 1/2" iron rock offroad with soon to be long arms and some 2" spacers added cause my jeep goes everywhere man...
@@tgreen1380 As the saying goes, everything has a price, and someone offered me enough to sell it. He was an older guy who wanted one that was all original as his daily driver. I took that profit and got a beautiful 2000 SR5 4Runner. Only 200kms and one owner. They're shooting up in value lately so if you can find a clean 3rd Gen in California you should buy it now.
Thats some good zj vibes brotha!
RCSloMo Thanks man, I'm glad that you caught the positivity from this.
my folks black '96 5.2 laredo is what made me fall in love with ZJs, i just picked up a platinum 5.9 less than a week ago, ive wanted one for almost a decade
Same exact thing here, my mom had a forest green '96 5.2 laredo that I was supposed to get as my first vehicle. In 2006 It got totaled by a drunk MTA shuttle bus driver around the block from my house unfortunately. It had 126k on the odometer and the Jeep was just getting broken in because my mom babied it for its whole life. The Jeep was extremely reliable and never had any major repairs done, the only things that were ever replaced were the battery and the radiator. In September of 2007 I ended up getting a platinum '98 5.2 Limited with 80k miles, now it's painted black and built with heads/cam and full bolt ons. In April of 2013 I got my platinum 5.9 with 134k miles and I only paid $800, the 46RE needed a rebuild. Now it's full bolt ons. I didn't know that the 5.9 Limited even existed until I found one on UA-cam back in 2006, then after getting the 5.2 Limited and knowing there was a more bad ass ZJ that was built and the fact that they are really rare (1 year production,14,286 total, 10,051 with federal emissions, 4,235 with California emissions), I knew I needed a 5.9 ZJ.
@@98ZJ318 the one that i just got has the same smell and brings me back to my childhood
@@98ZJ318 btw i love how your black 5.2 looks and sound, that 110 lsa is grumpy
@4.22 i also do the same everytime when im under the hood of my niner😂
Yea bro, that weatherstripping always comes loose on the driver's side only. It's kind of annoying and should be glued so it never happens again.
I have been stickin those 5.9L MAGNUM motors in TJ.s. Just finisned up my 4th one. Always wanted that 98 with one but hasn't happened. Got too jeeps already.
I just got mine. I want to swap my transfer case for a 242 as well. Which 242 did you go with
Great video 👍, nice Jeep! I love them Magnum Motors very strong and stout!!!
Keep making great vids!!!!
Mopar Chopper44 Thanks bro, really appreciate that. I love the 5.2 and 5.9 V8 Magnums. They sound great, pull hard, easy to work on, and last a very long time. Out of all the real on and off road SUVs ever made the ZJ is hard to beat, mainly because it's only 4000 lbs and has all of that torque. It's a timeless 90s body style, a box with a big V8 in it. They never get old, only better with time.
Where did you get you’re billet power steering pulley ? Looks nice
Jeep is one of the most emblematic brands and no doubt that those ZJs will become collectibles, including 5.2s by the way wich are completely neglected nowadays.
But for the moment, what I like about the Niner is that you can park it everywhere. Nobody suspects that you have a musclecar until you crank it up.
Threesixty31 The sleeper aspect is the best part. No one knows about it and no one ever sees it coming until it's too late. The 5.9 ZJ is hands down the best dual purpose SUV ever built. It does just as well at a drag strip as it does off road, a true Jeep. They will never be made like this again, that is what makes them so special.
I have a 98' 5.9 ZJ and It's my first vehicle I love it to death as well and I love this video
Thank you brother, the 5.9 Limited will always be my favorite Jeep ever built. It's quick, compact, lightweight, great looking, amazing V8 tone, and more reliable than the V8 Jeeps that came after.
just got one today, i already have an XJ (2000) but i’m very much looking forward to driving this ZJ! with the 5.9
@@sparkie5571 Nice grab brother, welcome to the Niner ZJ family.
Got a Deep Slate Niner for $900, been my daily for over a year now. Dude I bought it from thought motor was going out, turns out he just crossed some spark plug wires. Also had vibration coming from deteriorated motor mounts and harmonic damper
That’s a great deal and also the best color of the 3 for the Niner. I hate using the 5.9 as the daily but they run and drive so well that I can’t complain. They are extremely easy to work on and mine has been nothing but reliable for the last 7 years that I have owned it. The 5.9 Limited is the best and most well rounded Jeep ever built. They do everything well, on and off road.
@@98ZJ318 Really? I think stone white is the best looking, it is the rarest. But the black does look hella good when I clean it 😂
@@kenleycarlton7562 Was never a fan of the white as much as the Deep Slate or Platinum but they are the rarest. There were 300 sunroof delete 5.9 Limiteds and there were 20 with chrome Ultrastars. Those are the rarest of the rare.
@@98ZJ318 didn’t know that there was chrome ultrastars, but I don’t like them anyhow. My Jeep looks identical to the stock picture on the owners manual. Minus the 5.9 Grille. Previous owner “lost it” and installed a 5.2 limited grille. For the life of me I can’t find the true grille anywhere. Not eBay, not Craigslist. Let me know if you find one. I’d pay for it $$$
I have a 5.9 ZJ in Stone White. I have over 200,000 miles on it and it's still all original unmolested. I do need to do some work to it as it's beginning to show it's age. New distributor, coil, etc. needed and the 249 starting to act up. Still embarasses a lot of newer vehicles! Only about 14,000 of these were made and only in 1998, the last year of the ZJ. Many have been totalled or scrapped during the "cash for clunkers" disaster. Mine is a Canadian model so probably even rarer. I don't plan on ever letting it go. Enjoy yours!
Thank you brother, I enjoy both of my ZJs a lot. My Full Bolt On 5.9 ZJ is my daily driver, my Heads/Cam 5.2 ZJ is my weekend warrior and what I bring to car meets. Both were built in September of 1997. Stone White was the rarest color on the 5.9 ZJs. Bright Platinum was the most common and Deep Slate was in the middle. Not sure on the Canadian production numbers but it was 14,286 total units produced, 10,051 with federal emissions and 4,235 with California emissions. They are definitely worth more when all stock and unmolested but these things are such a beast when modified. No plans on ever letting either one go, they keep getting better with time because they don't build a small lightweight SUV with a V8 and 4WD/RWD anymore.
Fucc them haters I love my 98 ram 1500 5.2. Been in my family since I was 13 and I'm 29 now. I got a daughter and can't wait to do my 5.2 build on it and have her help
I like it. Its cool like a hemi GC.
Thank you brother, it’s the grandfather to the Hemi Grand Cherokee.
Your ZJ looks great. Keep the old iron alive
Thank you brother, old American V8s forever.
No hate here , that is a nice ride in my books, cheers from Ontario Canada
Thank you brother
Well I guess since I have a 1998 slate grey 5.9er and I see you have 97 comments, I'll be the 98th. Screw the haters and I like the 5.7 hemi's but I gotta say I prefer my magnum any day. I paid $4,000 cash at a used car dealership about 7 years ago and wouldn't sell her for triple that now. Love the 5.9er and I also put a NP 231 behind the trans and have real 2wd and yes the 249 is junk , screw that Viscous coupler for sure it always goes out after about 50,000 miles from the AWD.
I can't begin to tell you how many 5.7 Jeeps, Durangos, Challengers, and Chargers I have beat with my heads/cam 5.2 ZJ and with this full bolt on 5.9 ZJ. Same thing with the 4.7 Powertech, they can't beat the 5.2/5.9 V8 Magnums. As for the 6.1 Hemi, 6.4 Hemi, and the 6.2 supercharged Hellcat/Redeye/Demon, that's a completely different story. I have the NP242 in both of my Jeeps and the transfer case swap was one of the best mods for a V8 ZJ to give it the true RWD option. Pulling the transfer case lever down is a lot quicker and easier than pulling the front driveshaft every time you want to do a burnout.
I just found the exact same model they're asking 5k for it kbb says 3500 you think its worth it? I have a 96 5.2 thinking about modifying but its pretty laden with rust under the trim
It depends on the condition and how many miles but they are quite rare, especially in 2021. The 5.9 ZJ is a lot faster than the 5.2 ZJ stock for stock but the fuel economy is way worse on the 5.9 ZJ but that’s not why you buy a Jeep with a 360 ci V8. If the miles are fairly low and it’s in good condition I would say go for it, I have a 5.2 ZJ and a 5.9 ZJ and they are both incredible vehicles but the 5.9 is the one to build for power, I have a built 5.2 ZJ and if I did the same mods to the 5.9 it would be at 400 crank hp instead of the 5.2 at 380 crank hp.
@@98ZJ318 it has 122,000 miles theyre asking 5k for it very clean, my only thing is i like to cruise around town and go on road trips in my truck if the gas mileage is that noticeable im gonna have to say no i fill up once a week already last fill up was 58 bucks
@@aljunonsarver9965 I would say go for the 5.9 ZJ but be prepared to spend a little more overall. It’s well worth it, it’s a good amount better than a 5.2 ZJ in almost every way.
Got my 98 jeep grand cherokee 5.9 limited today for 1k best money I spent. Just needed to change out the my thermostat so far.
That's a great deal, they are amazing Jeeps. The 5.9 Limited is still the best all around SUV ever built. When I got mine in 2013 for $800 the 46RE needed to be rebuilt. A thermostat only costs $10, you got really lucky with yours.
@@98ZJ318 the 46re is the modern version of a 727 torque fly transmission which they tend to use in drag cars
@@jldfishing6622 Torqueflite* yea, no shit.
Your right I'm right with ya I love those older jeeps I've owed two and they are bullet proof in my experience and there simple to work on if ya ever have to every one is a jeep hater so I say fuck yourself because I love a vehicle that can do it all and there comfortable so ya I'm down with your understanding Keep it up and keep putting out these videos
Thank you brother, much appreciated. I like the older Jeeps more than the newer ones. They are smaller, lighter, more reliable, and built to last. The Trackhawk is faster and nicer but it will never be able to do everything and do everything well like a ZJ can. The ZJ is the best all purpose Jeep Grand Cherokee ever built. It can be lifted, lowered or left alone and it does all of these things phenomenally.
I agree, new is not always better. 12v Cummins are better than 24v… old Supra is better than the brand new Supra… emissions ruined a lot…
This is the truth, newer cars don't look as good or sound as good. They are way heavier and more boring to drive due to having way too much safety equipment. Cars feel numb on the road with electronic power steering compared to hydraulic power steering. New cars are more expensive and more boring at the same time, they are for dumb people who know nothing about cars but have money.
nice video man!
TommyVercettiKing Thanks brother, much appreciated. Not too much new content on V8 ZJs in 2020, figured I would help take care of that.
@@98ZJ318 i see, keep us updated, you have a couple of nice toys
Yeyeyeyeyeyeyeah have a 1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee V8 limited 5.2 all about Jeep. Jeep Fam my Boi stay up 😎👍
Yo i put some h & r lowering springs on my 5.2 zj it lowered it but now the dif is hitting the sway bar what did you do about that
I didn't have that issue
Or the track bar do u thinnk i could flip it
@@D33THNG Try shaving or grinding down any extra metal where it is hitting.
Lol its only hitting track bar and diff
got my 5.2 v8 97 green orvis with 138k and arb front bumper for 200$ and it has all the original paperwork when my old boss bought it for 38k$. i got a decal on my windshield that says most hated lol
The Orvis Edition and the 5.9 Limited are the 2 rarest and nicest ZJ models that were built, hold on to that Jeep for as long as possible. People hate on these ZJs because they don't realize how quick and lightweight they are for an SUV, considering it is outdated technology from the 90s that still works well to this day. It makes people mad that they work so well for how old they are and then they hate out of jealousy or confusion because their newer car is slower than a 22+ year old SUV.
@@98ZJ318 oh believe me its not going anywhere. your videos are inspiration to my going again. stay safe brother
Chicago Rc Thanks man, really appreciate that. Glad to know that the channel is doing something positive for the ZJ community. Be well and stay blessed.
@@98ZJ318 Happy jeeping brother
Chicago Rc Happy V8 Jeeping
My friend has a 2017 Vw Tiguan 2.0T and I ran it with 5.2 grand Cherokee and I lost to it 😭 but the jeep is more fun to drive for sure
With a few mods the 5.2 ZJ would smoke a VW Tiguan with ease.
I have a 98 5.2 litre limited and it's the Bomb! Comfortable as hell reliable and fast as far as I'm concerned especially when you run the Gears and ain't afraid to drive it like a man! It gets great gas mileage to if you drive it normal -- although I won't lie it's hard to because it's so fun when your getting on it Oh yea not to mention it's basically un fuckin stoppable !! Me personally I love the 249 transfer case - it wins me every race especially when it's raining out or just plain wet out. Great fun in a plush nice ride. Keep it up a0nd thanks for your story! DT
Good video feel ya love my ZJ
Thank you brother, love my 5.2 ZJ and 5.9 ZJ.
Who the fuck would hate on this? I mean literally, who have you heard hating on this car?
Cool but still an automatic. Try manual swapping it, and it's so much more badass. Even stock, my 5.9 having been manual swapped has so much torque, it just burns tires on accident.
my Jeep is the same color as yours but I have 242 inline 6 4.0 l engine in it it's clogged up but I can get it running again it was clogged up before and my mother owned it it has a select track transmission black leather interior and I left the next town of America over Meadowbrook road I think I seen you before bro somewhere down the line
Nice, yea I’m in that area. Selec-Trac is the NP242 transfer case, not the transmission. You have the 42RE transmission.
I always dream of swapping a 5.9 into my 5.2 Laredo (I built mine tho). You see a 5.9 Ltd every now and then here in the Motor City. I know what they are ;-)
Let me know if you know someone who wants an Orvis spare tire cover (fair to good condition).
I love it.
Best Jeep ever! I would’nt trade mine for any thing!
Agreed, best Jeep ever built. I have been in a lot of other Jeeps including a WK1 SRT8 and none of them do everything perfectly like the 5.9 ZJ. It's a muscle car with 4WD and ground clearance, it's a true on and off road SUV, and it's small and lightweight for a Jeep. They will never make another Jeep as cool as the 5.9 Limited.
98ZJ318 you are absolutly right!❤️ That modell got spirit
I'm about to buy another Grand Cherokee on Sat. Its a v8 , I just hope its the 5.9
I've been trying to find a Dodge Dakota 5.9 4x4 to either turn it into a race truck or just one mean off-road truck I already have two Dodge Durango RT 5.9 all wheel drives they're pretty quick but I would like to build the truck
@@jldfishing6622 I seen one of those the other day straight black single cab. You know there is a stroker kit to make the 5.9 into a 6.7 .
@@thelagmeister no I did not if you got the information please send it my way
@@thelagmeister I was trying to decide should I turbocharge it or supercharger but a stroker kit sounds pretty nice
@@jldfishing6622 I don't have the info, but I seen on a youtube video the guy had a grand cherokee 6.7 twin turbo. I wanted to post the link but I can't seem to find the video. I would go with the stroker as well. I plan on going that route if I keep my chevy 350.
I appreciate you brother👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I appreciate you
Bought the neighbors 5.9 ltd today.
Two thousand dollars.
200,000 miles.
Let's see some new content!!!
I paid $39,995.00 off the showroom floor. You bastards!
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Love my 5.9. Never seen the dirt and hasn’t seen 4000 rpm’s in its life. 133,000 and going strong 💪.
It's time to redline that 5.9, they move out. Got mine at 134k in 2013, now it's at 140k. Never been off-road on rough terrain once, that's why it's in good condition still. It sucks when people build Niners to go off-road, leave that to the 4.0 ZJ and 5.2 ZJ which are much less rare than a 5.9 ZJ.
Saving your 9er is no different than saving your girl for the next dude take it to red line my dude
Nice Jeep
Thank you brother
Have you dynoed it?
ibbi270 Not yet
What about track time? :)
Got a 5.9 just like yours!
ibbi270 Nice, these things are beasts. Never been to the drag strip. Atco in NJ is the closest track to me and it's over 2 hours away. Englishtown in NJ was an hour away but they closed it to the public.
They are! Had 5.2 was good but 5.9 is whole different animal!
Getting heads this month, cam next month and then doug thorley's. Already have m1 and 52mm tb.
Hoping to run in 13's with those mods.
@@DooDicky You are right, 5.9s are a special type of beast. A properly done 5.2 with heads/cam can make things happen too, trust me. I can only imagine how hard a heads/cam 5.9 would pull off of the line. Should be around 400 to the crank with your set up.
Love your coments
Needs the OG wheels
I have 3 sets of the 5.9 Ultrastars, although those might look better these 15 inch wheels are smaller and lighter so they are better. Function over form over here. Less unsprung weight equals improved handling, acceleration, and braking.
New sub G 🎉🎉 speak 🗣️ I have 93 zj 5.2 there the best
Thank you brother, ZJs are the best Jeeps ever built.
My dad bought a white 5.9 almost brand new. We towed our four wheelers and went on many trips. That think was an absolute joy to floor from a dead stop, getting up to speed entering a highway, or when trying to get out in front of some traffic! 😁 I remember getting a super cars book in school and seeing our jeep being in it and thinking that was so cool!
The 12 miles to the gallon gas mileage was horrendous though, I guess it cost to have fun though. 😎